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impact on the governor, do you think? >> reporter: you know, people here, some say his days are numbered. he is digging in. it is very obvious in that last statement. he says that he has apologized and he was here to serve the people who elected him. but the people of puerto rico say this goes beyond chats, this is about dignity and getting rid of corruption. >> we'll see what happens today. leyla, thank you so much. thank you all for joining me. "inside politics" with john king starts right now. welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. thank you for sharing your day with us. new court documents just released detail how candidate trump, his lawyer michael cohen and close aide hope hicks scrambled after the release of that "access hollywood" tape to suppress additional allegations of sexual misbehavior from spilling into public view. tonight we learn the lineups for the next rounding of democratic presidential debates. joe biden trying to stop a big
slide in the polls and the debates could be the last chance for those struggling at the bottom of the field. scripture tells us love thy neighbor. the trump re-election script tells you something very different. rally chapnts of "send her back make it very clear race is his weapon of choice. the house chaplain taking issue. >> this has been a difficult and contentious week wrin which darr spirits seem to have been at play in the people's house. in your most holy name, i now cast out all spirits of darkness from this chamber, spirits not from you. i cast out the spirit of petty, divisiveness. >> back to the debate about race and resentment a bit later. but we begin with breaking news. new documents released last hour prompting a very big and very uncomfortable question for the white house. did the president commit a crime? today a judge unsealed search
warrant materials in connection to the michael cohen case and the effort to buy the silence of women who say they had affairs with the president. the documents mention the president by name. he is no longer individual one. they lay out a timeline that includes a flurry of calls between candidate trump, lawyer michael cohen, hope hicks and tabloid executives. those calls in the hours following the publication of that infamous "access hollywood" tape. with us to share their reporting and legal insights, kara scannel and elie honig. >> we've been examining what is roughly 20 pages of unredacted material. what it shows us so far, as we're still going through it, is right after the "access hollywood" tape came out, immediately there were a flurry of communications between michael cohen acting in the middle of this in talk with hope hicks, with donald trump himself and then with the executives of the "national enquirer" david pecker and dylan howard. after a flurry of these calls
and next messages, it ends with this text message from dylan howard of "national enquirer" telling michael cohen that keith is in on this. let's reconvene tomorrow. that is keith davidson, the lawyer for stormy daniels. this is in an affidavit to support the search warrant of cohen's property. they're saying we believe we have probable cause that they were trying to negotiate this deal, an illegal campaign contribution. you really see through the search warrants the activity of some of these key players, donald trump and hope hicks. one of the key pieces of this too is that they strike this deal with stormy daniels. she's not going to go public with her story about an alleged affair with trump. during this period where they're finishing this up, where cohen is beginning to wire the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels, he has at least two conversations with donald trump on that day when he is having multiple conversations also with ami, with keith davidson, but he
has two conversations that day with donald trump. when cohen pled guilty, he said he made these payments in coordination with and at the direction of the candidate, donald trump. >> at the direction of. ellie, come into the conversation there. individual one we knew back in the day was donald trump. now it's clear it is donald trump in these documents. so we're learning new details how this all played out. from your perspective, what is the legal jeopardy for the current president of the united states? >> it really looks like the justice department policy against indicting the sitting president saved donald trump's hide here, at least for now. when you see this case, this is the southern district laying out its case in detail, quoting texts, using specific phone records to show donald trump knew about this from the very start, was involved in it throughout the whole process of making the payments and was centrally involved. doj cannot charge the president now under its own policy, but remember there's a five-year statute of limitations. all this stuff happened in late
2016. so if trump loses the 2020 election, he'll leave office in early 2021, which is still within that five-year statute of limitations. so he needs to think about what his future exposure could be as well. >> and we know the president's position on this has been -- well, he's had shifting positions on this. but one of his positions was this was michael cohen. there is this piece of audio recording of michael cohen talking about the paemts. . >> i've spoken to allen weisselberg about how to set this whole thing up with -- >> so what do we got to pay -- >> yes. and it's all the stuff. >> you can infer what that means there. allen weisselberg was the chief financial officer of the trump organization. this investigation was continuing. it was part of the case against michael cohen. it's a potential case against president trump when he leaves office. is there anybody else or are they done? >> so as part of the filing
today, we did see the prosecutors' note to the judge. this was all prompted because media, including cnn, had wanted access to these materials. so the prosecutors had to explain to the judge where they were in the course of this investigation, because as the judge had said these documents were very important for the public to know and to be able to scrutinize them themselves. and in that just very brief document, the prosecutors said that they had pretty much completed their investigation into both -- whether anybody else acted with michael cohen and whether anyone had lied during the course of this investigation. now, they don't say specifically that there won't be any other charges or any other people charged, but what we do know from our reporting is that it is unlikely that there's going to be anyone charged at the trump organization. as part of this investigation, we have to remember that prosecutors had given key players in this immunitimmunity. they gave allen weisselberg immunity and david pecker and dylan howard also immunity. >> elie, to that point, most
campaign finance violations are settled as civil matters. these are documents talking about criminal culpability of potentially donald trump and obviously of michael cohen. where's the line? where did the prosecutors see the line to make this a criminal case, not a civil case? >> yeah, i think it all goes to what the bottom line intent is. whether it's mere oversight, as we saw in the obama administration, just a filing error, or if there was a more coordinated effort to get around the election laws and whether this constitutes a contribution. and i think when you see the timing. the timing here is so key, john, and it's laid out in this document. these affairs had happened years before, yet in early october 2016, right after that "access hollywood" tape comes out and news is starting to look really bad for the president, that's when they all spring into action here. and i think that close tie to the campaign and the efforts to both pull off this payment, big payment, and to cover it up cross it over from the sort of civil realm, the administrative
realm over into the criminal realm. >> elie, kara, appreciate your legal insights here. i'd note for the record, it was also a day later the podesta emails were released. curious timing, huh? jeffrey epstein has been denied bail and will remain in federal custody. a federal judge ordering the wealthy financier and alleged sex trafficker to remain in jail pending his trial. epstein is accused of sexually abusing dozens of underage girls but has pleaded not guilty. the judge tentatively scheduling a conference in that case for july 31st. the president's re-election rally last night in north carolina. what it tells us about how he hopes to win four more years.
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last night an ominous new campaign rally catch phrase stoked by the president's racist smears of four congresswomen of color. this from the crowd directed at minnesota congresswoman ilhan omar. >> omar has a history of launching vicious anti-semitic screeds. [ crowd chanting "sent her back" ] >> send her back now from lock her up. the chant was organic. he didn't start it but he didn't try to stop it and he did invite the congresswomen at the center of his attacks to get out.
>> and tonight i have a suggestion for the hate-filled extremists who are constantly trying to tear our country down. they never have anything good to say. hey, if they don't like it, let them leave. let them leave. let them leave! >> now, there are some major factual issues with that characterization of the squad but the president doesn't care about that. and we know leave and send her back are about identity, not about ideology, confirming the president once again choosing racial anger, fear and resentment as the lead of his campaign message. now, there are scattered calls today among republicans for the president to abandon the ugliness we saw on display last night, but much more common this morning, republicans deflecting blame to the president's targets. >> should the president tamp this down? is it his responsibility to tamp this down? >> everybody should tamp it down. as a republican, why don't you go talk to these people about their rhetoric some too. the point is they're all
american citizens, entitled to their voice. and when they do provocative things, they're going to be met with provocation. so this is a two-way street, not a one-way street. >> with me to share their reporting and insights, toloist eliana johnson, lisa lair and phil mattingly. yes, provocation will bow met with provocation. so we can have a debate about medicare for all or things congressman omar said that are anti-semitic but i've never heard the democrats who disagree with the president say he has to go back to scotland or germany, send him back, that's ever. >> and the president has never told other people that he disagrees with to go back to their countries of origin. you've never heard the republicans say that the neo-nazis or white supremacists in charlottesville who espouse anti-semitic views should go back to their countries of ancestry, so there is a racial
component here that is blatant and easy to see. it's become much more difficult for these republicans who are trying to defend the president to figure out a way that does not -- that defends him without pointing out that his remarks are seeming to be very much tied to identity and race. >> and some of the president's own aides and many republicans who apologize for him at times or just try to brush it under the rug try to say he didn't mean the send her back part, he was just trying to elevate them to have a conversation about policies he views as socialist, policies he views as extremist and liberal. the rally last night left no doubt this is the card he wants to play. >> did he intend to say what he sent via twitter sunday morning? eliana covers the white house and she might have better insight. i have no idea. the reality is whatever he intended on sunday he has now embraced it in full. embraced in full what we all know it to be, which was it was a racist tweet and he's going to
double down on that. i think the difficulty right now in talking to a lot of republicans throughout the course of this week is you had the scattered number of republicans come out on monday eventually, after waiting, and say they had problems with it. today it's twofold. it's you can't get a single republican to address this in isolation. maybe one or two will say we have a major problem with this. every single one starts about what about them first? if you can't address this in isolation, you're not addressing this is a significant problem that's only going to continue. the other thing is republicans basically saying today i don't want to deal with this anymore. the reality is they're going to have to tcontinue to deal with this because the president has embraced this as a full-blown strategy going forward. if they're not going to address it or deal with it, it's not going away. so what happens? >> and it's risky in the sense if you look at 2018, nancy pelosi is speaker because suburban republican women said no, i don't want this. i can't take this anymore. the president is betting it's different in a presidential year with him leading the message.
that's a risky bet. >> yeah, i think it is important to stress how much this is a campaign strategy. and there's a lot of academic data and survey data backing up the idea that voters who had a higher sense of white grievance were more likely to vote for the president in 2016. and so this is really identity politics, that's what this is. it's identity politics for white voters. you know, i think as you point out, it is risky. we know that the president, like many first-time candidates, they tend to run the same race over and over again the second time around, so that's part of what he's doing here. he's really fixated on those three states that he won narrowly last time, michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin. he thinks that's where the race will be won and lost. he may be right about that, he may not be, but he sees this as the pathway to get there. the question is whether he can keep enough of these suburban more moderate voters who we know like where the economy is but are turned off by his tone.
either get them to stay home or keep them in his camp to avoid a loss. >> there are two ways to look at it. this may be problematic for the president by alienating those modern women or moderate men and women, but the president is making a different calculation, which is these four women, and two of them in particular, alexandria ocasio-cortez and ilhan omar, have been a problem for democrats. nancy pelosi has tried to marginalize them. the president has now succeeded in making them the center of political conversation all week and forcing nancy pelosi to unify with those four women and making them the face of the democratic party. he's calculating that those four women are going to alienate moderates and push them back into his camp, as uncomfortable as they may be with his rhetoric. so i think there is a tug of war over who are these moderate voters more afraid of? are you more afraid of trump or more afraid of these women? >> and one way to deal with a president who's unpresidential
is make somebody else look unfit for office. >> but you mentioned the map. the way to get the president's attention is to talk to him about the map. he pulled off an upset most people thought was impossible. hugh huewitt trying to get at te president today tweeting this morning, sending her back is a nativist terrible chant. also electoral suicide hugh hewitt says. there's more than 400,000 naturalized residents in pennsylvania, 200,000 more in michigan. vote her out, fine. send her back, nativist. catholics, by the way, remember. catholics can be swing voters in many states, hugh hewitt making the point there's history here. >> the president talked a little bit about the experts and other politicians who have told him what he should do in politics. he talked about it last night. he said a senator came in and said i won six out of seven races. the president said that's very good but i won my first race ever trying for the presidency. so he believes that he has the
confidence that he won on a message that was very much out of line with what other people were telling him to do. he talked about all kinds of things that were incendiary and inflammatory and now he's surrounded himself with people that agreed with him. the voices trying to rein him in are gone and he's got people that believe in his message and he did pull off what was a miracle in 2016. by following his instincts and following his gut he will do the same in 2020. >> just moments ago congressman omar responding, reacting to the president's comments. let's listen. >> we have said this president is racist. we have condemned his racist remarks. i believe he is fascist. i want to remind people that this is what this president and his supporters have torn our country, that is supposed to be a country where we allow democratic debate and dissent to take place.
and so this is not about me, this is about us fighting for what this country truly should be. >> what do you make of that? >> well, i think you see that the squad, as much as i find it difficult to say that as their title, they're trying to push the party in a certain direction and they believe the party needs to be stronger about calling out the president, the party needs to embrace big, liberal ideas, and that's part of what is going on with those comments. but i also think that 2016 and the president's ability, as you pointed out, to win that race is very much in democrats' head. there are a lot of people in the party who are really nervous about a repeat of that race and are really nervous that he could sort of -- that the laws of political gravity don't apply anymore. >> to that point we'll continue the conversation after a quick break. there's grumbling among moderate democrats that the spotlight lingering a bit too long on those four freshmen congresswomen.
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house democrats today eager to make a point to the president, proving they can advance their agenda despite differences with him and differences within the democratic family. the house speaker, nancy pelosi, pointedly refusing to comment on the president's rally last night and his new attacks on four congresswomen of color, focusing instead on today's push to advance a key party priority,
legislation raising the minimum wage. it passed earlier this hour. it would go to $15 an hour. faces a dead end in the senate but the house democrats saying we are trying. some moderate democrats fear they're losing the messaging war. a handful of democrats telling cnn in the past 24 hours they're growing tired of the repeated headlines involving those four progressive congresswomen often called the squad. one democrat saying, quote, the president won this one. what the president has done politically brilliant. pelosi was trying to marginalize these folks and the president has identified the entire party with them. you were just talking about this a little bit. this is one democrat talking anonymously. if you want to make a big complaint, you should attach your maname to it. how big is this? they look at 2016 when everyone told them donald trump can't win and he did. is that what it is? they just fear as much as they don't like it, as much as it might repel them that it might work? >> i think it gets at this
larger debate that the party has been having since they lost the 2016 election. basically the lines of that are there is a group who look at the numbers in places like milwaukee and detroit and philadelphia and say, well, what democrats need to do is mobilize our base, get more young people out, get more people of color out and boost the margins. there's another group that looks at more rural working class among white voters and say, no, the party needs to win those people back, the people who swung from obama to trump. there are very different paths to win those two groups is how the theory goes. so you have a number of people who believe the party needs to take a more moderate tact who are looking at the 2020 field and saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, there's too much embracing of medicare for all, too much embracing of free college, and the nominee will be damaged. even if they aren't someone who's taken those positions, like joe biden, they will be damaged by the overall left tilt
of this field. it's unclear if that's true. you have to run the race you're in. you can't win by fighting the last war. >> i think the reason there's concern about the focus on these four is pretty simple. donald trump won in 2016 because although voters didn't like him, they liked hillary clinton even less. and these four congresswomen, when you look at their approval ratings, even among democrats, they're extremely low. so trump's approval rating is quite low, but the approval ratings of these four happen to be lower than his, even among democratic voters. i think that's where you see a lot of the concern coming from. >> it's the half full/half empty debate. president trump won an electoral victory but lost the popular vote by quite a bit. to your point if we mobilized 70,000 more people or 80,000 more people in three states, we'd be in a different world now. >> and what's interesting is in sto talking to some of those people it's less about 2016 and more
about their districts. they're there, a lot of them, because they won in 2018. in 2018 they never talked about the president, they talked about health care, they talked about wages and those types of issues. and this part is not necessarily new. throughout the course of the majority makers, the reason speaker nancy pelosi is speaker of the house is they have been frustrated nobody pays attention to the work that they're doing, which is nose to the grindstone, do what you're doing to keep your seat and deliver for your constituents. everyone is paying attention to the people with big social media followings. over the course of the last couple of days, it's the fact that they continually get dragged into these very, very divisive fights, whether it's voting on a resolution of condemation, a rogue effort on impeachment. i literally had a freshman, swing district congressman tell me two days ago, this isn't why i came here. that's the frustration right now, they feel like the progressives are dragging them repeatedly into these types of fights, these types of debates,
these types of votes. it's problematic for them and for the democratic majority. >> and al green insisted on filing a motion that had to be voted on because of the rules. the democratic vote was 137 to kill it, 95 in favor of it. a lot of leadership members and committee chairman voted against the speaker, if you will, and with congressman green. four members of the democratic leadership, you see them right there, and more than a half dozen chairman of committee voting against. what does that tell us about the internal tensions in the party, which are real? democrats like to say, yeah, we're a big family. the president doesn't like debate in the republican party or doesn't like dissent. we think it's a good thing. is it? >> we have seen a lot of debate and dissention in the democratic party over a number of different issues, how far left to go, whether or not to move forward with impeachment. nancy pelosi is finding the difficulties of trying to manage a party for the party that's in the majority for the first time
in ten years not only agewise but philosophy and ideology. it's becoming much more difficult to rein in some of the tensions that have been bubbling up under the surface for quite a while. the vote last night was one opportunity for people who wanted to vote for impeachment to let that steam out. nancy pelosi hasn't taken it fully off the table but she says it's a little premature. we haven't even heard from robert mueller yesterday. there's still a majority of the democratic caucus that wants to continue with the investigations and move forward, and not move forward with impeachment right now. >> next thursday we hear from robert mueller. before we go to break, just moments ago, wednesday, i'm sorry, kevin mccarthy answering critics who say the president should have stopped that rally chant last night of "send her back." >> the president moved on with his speech. he said it was a small group off to the side. the president did not join in. you want to hold him accountable
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a lot of interesting political stories bubbling up today, so let's try a little lightning round starting with the junior senator from kentucky. senator rand paul blocking an attempt to unanimously pass a bill that would fund the 9/11 first responders health care through 2090. the bill had cleared the house. mitch mcconnell saying he wants to have a vote in the senate. rand paul says without a plan to offset the cost of the september 11th victim compensation fund the senator says it would only add to the national debt. >> we're adding debt at about a
trillion dollars a year. therefore, any new spending that we are approaching, any new program that's going to have the longevity of 70, 80 years should be offset by cutting spending that's less valuable. we need to at the very least have this debate. i will be offering up an amendment if the bill should come to the floor, but until then i would object. >> a lot of incoming ire from jon stewart, from the first responders. jon stewart has been an advocate for the first responders. senator paul not blinking, though, right? >> no. he is steadfast taking a lot of -- taking a lot of incoming fire on that. but rand paul no stranger to controversy. also this -- also this weekend, lobbying the president, putting himself at the center of foreign policy and lobbying the president over a game of golf to be his emissary to the iranians, iranian foreign minister in new york this weekend. rand paul got the president's permission to head to new york.
we don't know for a fact that senator paul is meeting with him, but that's the suspicion. >> secretary pompeo call in if you have any reaction to that one. here's another one for you. no debt ceiling deal yet but steven mnuchin says the administration has agreed on, quote, top line numbers with house and senate leaders for a two-year budget deal along with a long-term debt ceiling increase. mnuchin says the two sides still discussing offsets to cover the increase as well as other structural issues. that's his word. they hope to finalize things before the august recess. they have to sort of have an outline by tomorrow more or less wouldn't they? >> basically. i'd like to welcome everybody to my 30-minute talk on offsets. here's the bottom line. nancy pelosi and steven mnuchin have engaged in numerous phone calls. there's a new urgency because the debt ceiling could be hit in early september. that's why they want to do it before august. they have been making very good progress. the offset piece is difficult. they have been trading proposals back and forth. another difficulty, not everybody in the white house wants this deal.
there's an element of the white house, including mick mulvaney that aren't keen on giving the democrats the spending increases they want. mitch mcconnell asked for that to happen, democrats are more comfortable with him but steve mnuchin and nancy pelosi could agree to the deal the president might not sign off on. i asked nancy pelosi does she trust steve mnuchin speaks for the administration right now? she said rather bluntly, yes. >> and mcconnell saying he's a lesser player. the trump campaign planning to roll out a new mobile app aimed at targeting the president's most ardent supporters. it's part of an effort of the 2020 campaign manager, brad parscale, will allow voters to register to vote and other campaign happenings. there will also be rewards, including perks for those who volunteer or organize campaign watch parties. all part of the president's efforts to replicate his 2016 map, which of course included
winning some big traditionally democratic states. "the new york times" noting today that unlike 2016, democrats are increasingly more energized in those states like michigan, pennsylvania and wisconsin. one democratic donor in detroit noting i was one of hillary clinton's finance chairs and unfortunately she didn't come into michigan enough. that's barry goodman. a biden bundler tell "the new york times," adding, quote, they're not ignoring us now. tolo and lisa are part of this reporting. the app is interesting in the sense that brad parscale, number one, has the luxury, the president doesn't have a serious primary challenge. hes ha the luxury of a ton of money. he is trying to work on the margin, if you will, to change the electorate. >> they raised a record $108 million in the second quarter and are putting that money to good use. they're spending on ads on facebook and whatnot but trying to professionalize the operation of the campaign. they want to win in the same places they won in 2016. they talk about expanding the map. when you talk to them behind the scenes, they're really worried
about michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, those main states that took trump over the top in 2016. they're trying to professionalize the operation with digital spending and put together this app to juice the president's base and make sure they're engaged so the people who didn't turn out in the midterms, to stay engaged in twe 2020 and turn out in large numbers in 2020. >> they can try and fail at some things. they can test the apps, test things, do some failing while the democrats are fighting it out. to your point in your piece today, democrats seem to be convinced that everybody learned what happened. you better be present in wisconsin, you better be present in pennsylvania, you better be present in michigan. are they sure about that? >> they may have learned it to a fault. the amount of time that the primary candidates are spending in those three states, which i've taken to calling the bermuda triangle of democratic politics, is really pretty striking given that none of them give you any delegates in the
primary process until way after super tuesday, at which point it could be severely narrowed down if not locked up. this is about dealing with and embracing the democratic party electorate's sense of ptsd from this race. democratic primary voters want to see that these candidates are in those places even if they're casting their ballots in iowa. they want to know that they are not going to take these states for granted. of course, you know, you talk to some in the party and they'll say, well, it depends who the ticket is. maybe democrats should be playing in arizona. maybe they should be spending more money in texas or -- but it is clear those three states are part of this blue wall and they have to play there and voters want to see the campaigns get that. >> i like that, bermuda triangle meets electoral college. detroit is where the second round of debates are. tonight the draw to get the lineups. choosing my car insurance was the easiest decision ever. i switched to geico and saved hundreds.
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we know the 20 candidates who are qualified for the next democratic presidential debates. i can show you their faces right here. tonight we'll know the lineup. cnn is holding a live draw to determine which candidates debate on which night of the two-night event. the draw is live so that you can see the process. and the process is designed to make the debates a balanced matchup. let's go through it again. these are the 20 candidates.
they'll debate over july 30th and 31st. here is how that process will play out. splitting the candidates to balance the debates into three groups. the first draw, the candidates who are at the low end of the polls, 1, 2% right now, a little hire in some candidates. then the middle of the pack in the polls, these are six candidates. then the final draw will be the four candidates at the top of the pack, the leaders of the democratic race, if you will. only two of these candidates will be on the stage with each other. these four cannot appear together because they'll be evenly split. again, the process is work like this. in each round, the names of the candidates in one box. the dates in another box. you pick a candidate. then you pick a date. done. go back and go through the process until all the candidates in each round are dealt with. these debates are critical for all of the candidates. let's rhymemind ourselves, head into the second debate, this is
the current stack in a nbc/"wall street journal" poll. job has suffered, kamala harris has gained, since the first debate. so too has elizabeth warren. bernie sanders relatively stable. pete buttigieg may be up a little, that's within the margin of error. these are the top five heading into round two. kamala harris was asked last night, any worry that this is getting too brutal? >> is there any chance the candidates will cannibalize each other, going into the big prize? >> i hope not. most of us are of like mind, that this should be a debate about issues but not personal attacks. it should be about, you know, pointing out the differences, obviously, between us so democrats can make a decision, but it should not be about cannibalizing anybody. >> does the draw, meaning who is on the stage which night, how much of a difference does that make? >> we saw that it made a big difference last time around because it gave kamala harris a
chance to take a shot at joe biden. i think generally politicians are fairly uncreative. when they see something that works they try to just replicate it for themselves. so i suspect we'll see a lot of people trying to set up their attacks and get -- because they've seen how much that has benefitted senator harris' campaign, she's risen in the polls, risen in fundraising, after her success at the first debate. >> it also matters that the last time around elizabeth warren was sort of the one candidate who was polling strongly and she had many other of the second and third tier candidates with her on the stage with her and none of those candidates sort of took advantage of the opportunity to really take a shot at her. she emerged relatively unscathed and that's allowed her to continue in that position. where is you had a bunch of the top polling candidates on the stage together in the second debate. so it could matter, just the luck of the draw, in terms of setting the dynamics of the debate. >> i think that's true without a doubt. to your point, senator cory booker here, has watched senator
harris score, challenging the vice president, remarks that he gave that seemed to speak favorably about segregationist senators, about fighting forced busing. to senator cory booker, that's still fair game. >> did you feel disrespected? >> of course i did. how many times have we all in our lives who are some kind of other dealt with mansplaining or dealt with condemning remarks. and i'm not holding it against vice president biden for saying something bone-headed, we all have. but come forward. why have we created this culture where you can't say you made a mistake? >> claire, he sees it as still an opportunity. and also clear, he's sort of stuck in the middle. and as we go into late in the year, it's a long way until people vote, but the candidates have to make the next round of debates, it's hard to keep a presidential campaign going. is he going to come in more
aggressive having learned the lesson from senator harris? >> it's so offensive, you would say politicians are uncreative. i have to stick up for the politicians. i would say just about every candidate not named joe biden wants to be on stage with joe biden, because they see the effect it can have. but i would imagine joe biden is going to be more prepared. >> he better be. >> for sure, because people are going to come after him, and he better be in a different place or at least have a different posture than the first time around. i do think there are candidates, not just joe biden, that want different people on the stage to drive the differences. if you're michael bennet, you want to be onstage with bernie sanders, because while he's been attacking bernie sanders and his medicare for all plan, there's tangible effect to having an onstage attack.
>> senator sanders also has a decision to make here, he's pushing his fundraising stuff, don't take money from pharma, don't take money from drug companies and the like. but he's stagnant in the polls. it will be interesting to see if he looks for something different in debate round 2. >> i wouldn't be surprised if he does. we expect candidates to start talking about how they differ from the field. the democrats at large would rather have this be about their ideological differences and not so much about the personal differences that we saw in the first debate. talking to members of the trump campaign, they love and democrats get into identity politics and start attacking over here over race and age. >> "the draw" tonight on cnn, we'll see you tomorrow on "inside politics." brianna keilar will be here after a quick break.
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