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iran disputes that. british company says armed guard took control but let it go. the president's response earlier. >> this is only goes to show what i'm saying about iran. trouble. nothing but trouble. i was right about iran and let's see what happens. >> the news continues. let's turn it over to "cnn tonight." this is "cnn tonight" i'm don lemon. so much for disavow. so much for the president's claims that he disagreed with the send her back chant. did anybody really believe he was unhappy? he wasn't. you saw hip standby and let it happen doing nothing to stop it. did anybody really believe he would take back the racist tweet that started it all? he won't. listen to what he said today.
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>> you're not happy with the chant. however it was just repeated. >> you know what i'm unhappy with. the fact that a congresswoman can hate our country. that's what i'm unhappy with. those people in north carolina that stadium was packed. it was a record crowd. and i could have filled it ten times as you know. those are incredible people. incredible patriots. >> so the president insisting that his supporters in the crowd chanting send her back they were true patriots. because they agree with him. and falsely repeating a slur that any of the four congresswomen or color hate our country. because they disagree with him. that's why he tweeted in the first place. why don't they go back and help fix the totally broken kp crime infested places from which they came. ignoring they are american
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citizens. that's what the chants happen. he let them go on for a full 14 seconds. >> omar has a history of launching vicious, antisemitic skreeds. >> send her back! >> it is why just 12 minutes later, he was back on his love it or leave it refrain. telling the crowd this. >> if they don't like it let them leave. let them leave. they're always telling us how to run it. if they don't love it, tell them to leave it. >> i'm sure you're away. we knew send her back is the new lock her up. equally hateful. probably more hateful than that. it is. dangerous and disgusting.
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>> lock her up! >> well, today the president of the united states showing his true colors. after yesterday's failed attempt to convince you he didn't like that send her back chant. >> if i may, when your supporters were chanting send her back, why didn't you stop them? or ask them to stop saying that. >> i think i did. i started speaking very quickly. it really was a -- i disagree with it. it was quite a chant. and i felt a little bit badly about it. i will say this, i did and i started speaking very quickly. it started up rather fast.
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as you probably know. >> so you'll tell supporters never to say that again. that is -- >> i was not happy with it. i disagree with it. but again, i didn't say it. i didn't say that. they did. >> they were echoing what you said in your tweet. to go back. >> i don't think you'll find that. i disagree with it. >> he says he disagrees with the chant. he was not happy with it. that was yesterday. of course less than an hour later. he said this. >> what is your message to the supporters. who are making that chant? >> well, these are people that love our country. i want them to keep loving our country. >> that brings us to today. the president no longer seems to have any problem with the chant. and refuses to acknowledge the racism of his own dpo back to where you came from tweet. >> you know what's racist to me?
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when somebody goes out and says the horrible things about our country. the people of our country. >> fact checking to do on that later on. showing us what he cares about. what he cares about is the news coverage of his pretend disavow of the racist chants. tweeting that the news media became crazed otherwise known as reporting the facts? maybe. and immediately to the claims of the size of the crowd. we know how he loves to talk about the size of the crowd. doubling down on the slurs against the congresswomen and losing track of how many there are. four to three. because he doesn't like politics. >> i can tell you this, you can't talk that way about our country. not when i'm the president. >> actually, you can. no matter who the president is. that is the right of every
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single american citizen. the right of you and everybody. a right that is in the first amendment of the constitution. remember that? our government is prohibited from abridging freedom of speech. that's not stopping him from attacking them kp refusing to acknowledge what he has said about the country. remember? let's not forget american carnage. from his inaugural address. he said this to america on the day he took the oath to protect the constitution of the united states. >> mothers and children trapped in poverty in our inner city. rusted out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape of the nation. and education system flushed with cash. but which leaves our young and beautiful students deprived of all knowledge. and the crime.
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and the gangs and the drugs. that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential. this american carnage stops right here and stops right now. >> american carnage. but the president today just brushing aside his own hypocrisy. >> in the past you said america is laughing stock of the world. and don't believe in american exceptionalism. why can you criticize america but not democrats? >> i believe everyone is great. i love our country. i'm representing the country. people can't go around speaking ability the country and saying garbage. these women said horrible things. about our country and the people of the country. nobody should be able to do that
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and if they want to do that. that's up to them. i can't imagine they'll do well at the polls. and i say this, if the democrats want to embrace people that hate the country, people that are so far left that nobody has ever seen it. that's up to them. >> didn't really answer the question. why is it okay for you to criticize the country but not okay for the congresswomen to criticize the country? he never answered that. and kept saying they have said this called the country garbage. that is not true. that's a fact check. did you hear what he said? he admitted this is about politics for the president. 2020 is looming. all about branding democrats as far left. adds socialists. and extremists. a party that embraces hate. when it was hate and divisiveness that helped him to get to the white house. let's not forget he never missed
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a chance to despouse the birther lie that obama was not born in the country. >> i want him to show the birth certificate. there's something on it he doesn't like. >> people have birt certificates. he doesn't have one. he may have one. there's something on it. maybe religion or a muslim. i don't know. if he wasn't born in the country which is a real possibility. it's a real possibility. he pulled one of the great cons in the history of politics. >> that was a lie. one that president repeatedly still clings to today in private. in spite of the facts. and today, he wouldn't allow for the possibility that the first lady and his own daughter might give him advice. >> what did the first lady and ivanka advice you about the camp? >> false information. i talk about it.
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they didn't advise me. >> true to form. for the man who once said this. >> primary consultant is myself. and i have a good instinct for this stuff. >> true to form for the man at the republican convention. who compared this so a third world nation and proclaimed i, alone can fix it. >> our road and bridges are falling apart. our airports are third world condition. and 43 million americans are on food stamps. i have joined the political arena so that the powerful can no longer beat up on people who cannot defend themselves. nobody knows the system better than me. i alone can fix it. >> the president didn't want to
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consider the possibility that the first lady might give him advice. there's another first lady. who might be able to share some wise words with this president. another first lady. the former first lady. michelle obama. tweeting this today. what truly makes the country great is diversity. i have seen that beauty in so many ways over the years. born here or seek refuge. there's a place for us all. it's not my america or your america. it's our america. former first lady. right on the mark. our diversity is what truly makes america great. he should listen. thank you, mrs. obama. we have seen the president do the same thing again and again. try to sdans distance himself from racist statements to double
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president trump back to his old defiant tone about racist tweets directed at the four congresswomen of color. backing away from his claim he was unhappy with the send her
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back chant. as her rally on wednesday. calling the crowd incredible patriots. let's discuss now. with the van jones, max boot and alice stewart. i called you alex. sorry about that. >> good evening, everyone. i want to first, van. let's start with this. this is bothering me all day. i have been listening to the president give statements. he did it at the white house and keeps saying the congresswomen are antisemitic. one who made controversial comments and apologized. then said they have been calling america garbage. that's not -- alexandria ocasio-cortez said the country has gone in the wrong direction and people shouldn't be satisfied with policies that are 10% better than garbage. >> she was criticizing democrats. calling our own party. >> he said the same thing over
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and over. and it was a lie, a lie, a lie. >> if you tell a lie enough times it becomes a truth. gaslighting. he's saying the horrible things. one of the things is quite remarkable about the squad, if you listen to them, actually listen to donald trumps speeches. the whole speech. and the young women are growing an office. they are reaching out to white workers and reaching out to the working class. and omar has forced an alliance with jewish people in the and repair the damage and bring forward a peaceful message. he's frozen them in time with a false narrative and talking about people, lying about what they say. we're now ignoring the fact the young women the young leader are growing and doing exactly what we want them to do. if you say something wrong, apologize and do better.
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that's what they're doing. not what he's doipg. >> he's making it crystal clear to anybody that hasn't drunk the cool aid that is he is focussed. i'm glad you're focusing on the lies he's telling about the women. with focus on the racist statements. go back where you came from and the chants. yourt right he's smuggling in lies and are e peting them. and everyone repeating them and spreading the narrative for them. that the women hate america and they think that israel is evil. and support al qaeda. these are lies. i have to say i have a lot of disagreements with the squad. they are well to the left. i do think omar has been guilty of antisemitic statements and i have problems with the things they advocate. there's zero evidence that they quote hate america. trump is just making that up. and van was saying through he is
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making a lie part of the discourse. it's very troubling. >> why is had telling lies on the women? >> let's make one point clear in terms of being factually accurate. between the four congresswomen, who have done a lot for their issues and policies, they have made antisemitic statements. one actually did walk it back. they have made statements. so that is accurate. >> what are the statements? when people say. what is the statement. i have seen the antisemitic tweets by the ones that were controversial from omar. i don't see any other antisemitic statements from the other women? she apologized and said she's learning. so what are the other statements? >> they talk about both the support people of israel or the
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jewish people is all about the money. >> that's the same one. >> that's not they. they omar. she was talking about apack. and stepped in it and realized she was going the old jewish slur. that they're using their money in a negative way. and she walked that back. pressly is ain't smetic? that makes zero sense. tlaib? this idea you throw it out. and poke into it it's back to two tweets. that omar walked back. she deserves credit. for listening to her own jewish citizens and reaching out to congress members and working for peace. if you can't make a mistake on a tweet and be forgiven and do better why do you have a president that makes the same mistakes every day. and never apologizes and does worse. it's not fair to fall for the tricks. >> it's important -- the only
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issue is not about the antisemitic statement. it's not about that. it's the policies and the president has mentioned this a few times. i wish he would focus on the real issue. the policies and and the far left policies that are emblem attic of the democrat. the late term abortion. free college for all. >> none are proof -- >> listen. there's a wing of the party that likes that stuff. a wing of the party likes it less. tla that's not proof they hate america. again i don't mind having the debates and arguments. i'm on the left side. healthcare for everybody and doing better on the environment. that's not what the president is talking about. the president could -- he's got barrel of good stuff. he could reach into.
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his criminal justice stuff about 3,000 people came home today from the federal prison. 91% black. we're not talking about any of that stuff. he goes over to the nasty barrel. scrapes the bottom of that barrel and comes up with splinters and we have to talk about that for a week. i don't understand what the president is doing. to me, we are now in a position where we have to just call it like it is. these are lies and lies based on racial intolerance. it's wrong. >> weigh in here. this is the definiion of a demagogue. in order to gain power. in your view who does it sound like? >> no question. i don't know how you can dispute it. he's a demagogue and bringing fascism to america. he's sometimes compared i have compared him to george wallace. but remember they didn't become president.
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we have never had a president like this going back unless you go back to andrew johnson. has been cited as the most previous president. it's unprecedented. it's also the vilification of the opposition. saying they want to destroy america. these are things we have not heard from previous presidents. this is way over the line. this is really under mining the norm of our democracy. this is going to be a very great threat to the future of the country. especially if trump wins reelection. which is very possible. >> i think authoritarian tendencies here. i wouldn't use fascist at this point. he's doing a will the of stuff that's bad. but not that far. >> don't miss the van jones show saturday night at 7:00 p.m. eastern. with his guest meghan rapinoe. and the governors of wisconsin and pennsylvania. and the brand new studio.
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the line up is set for the presidential debate july 30 and 31. this time there will be a new face on the debate stage. democratic governor of montana and presidential candidate steve bullock. there he is. joining me now live. good to see you, thank you for coming on. >> i can think of no better way to spend a friday night than with you. >> you'll be on the stage later this month. you didn't qualify for the first debate. so far many americans this will be the first time they're meeting you. i don't know. are you under pressure to make a big splash? >> i'm excited about it. it struck me i was in iowa this morning. one woman said you know what was missing from the debate stage? it was our voice. what she said. so i want to make sure we don't
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have a debate and discussion that is really disconnected from the challenges that folks are facing. and i think that i bring a lot to it as the only one in the field that actually won in a trump state. recognizing we have to bring out the base and win back places we lost. i have been able to bring people together with a republican legislature and get progressive things done and fight the fight of my career. fighting dark mud in the politics. excited to bring the things to the stage in about a week and a half. >> let me ask you this, you'll be sharing a stanl with senators. sanders and warren. they are competing for progressive voters. and sharing a stage with moderates like klobuchar. where did you fit in? what's your focus? >> everybody says what's the lane. any lane is get stuff done that matters in peoples lives. the core of the world
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progressive is progress. i have been able to make progress and making our election clean. providing healthcare for people. or investing in education. what i want to do is make sure that we walk out of that debate with folks knowing that i'm from outside of washington d.c. often in dc giving speeching or a plan is nothing more than a press release vs. getting things done. i don't have the luxury as governor. >> joe biden leased his healthcare plan this week. calling for new subsidies to make obamacare coverage cheaper. calling for a new public option. with a medicare like program. you supported obamacare. but do you think it needs strengthening? >> i think it does. we should always make sure that fight to make sure healthcare is %-p. i think that we can do that by a public option.
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we pay more for prescription drugs. we can't even negotiate the prices because the corrupting influence of money in the system. getting rid of surprise medical billing and out of net work charges. that's the way i approach it. without trying to disrupt 180 million folks with employer sponsored care. we need to make it better and affordable. >> in 2016 you won reelection by 4%. at the same time president trump won montana by 20%. you have an appeal in a red state. will that roll over? >> i think it will. we need to be able to win back some of the places that we lost. the michigan and wisconsin. pennsylvania. in addition to being good everywhere else. you look at 44%-over americans wouldn't have $400 in their pocket. the last 40 years ore half of americans haven't had a pay
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increase in real terms. we have focus on how to make everybody's lives better not divide us. and give everybody a fair shot at a better future. >> when it comes to the presidential race. you said maybe all the rules are gone. maybe every rule is gone. what do you mean? >> i think this president between his lies and misstatements, dividing us by race and gender, geography. everyone that we would expect as normalized is changing and you look at we are now in the age of celebrity. obama is a first term senator. the last snert before that that we successfully nominated on the democratic side was john f kennedy. we look for executive experience. i certainly hope that this presidential race isn't a reality show. who has the most tweets and clicks. can and i hope the rules will
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continue. i'm in iowa today. it's always been iowa that sort of the great sorting hat that takes a large field and brings it down. iowa and the four early states. i expect that to be the same. we'll have to see what the rules are this go around. >> you'll wear a tie next week? >> if you tell me to wear a tie. >> i'm just asking. i'm not telling you. just wondering. if you do the tie thing or not. it's your first time. >> it's a friday night in des moines. for you i can take that tie off. >> it's a heat wave. we'll let you slide. thank you. i appreciate your time. >> thanks for having me on. >> don't miss the two night presidential debate. july 30 and 31. 8:00 p.m. eastern. robert mueller set to testify wednesday. what do republicans and democrats want to hear most from him? ce. yeah...yeah, this is nice.
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two house committees set to hear testimony next week for former special counsel mueller. the gravity of the president's misconduct. slated to appear publicly wendy wednesday for three hours for the judiciary committee. and both parties are holding mock hearings to prepare. joining me now to discuss. jack quinn, good evening to you. jennifer, i'll start with you. i want to play schiff on what democrats expect. >> we'll ask him questions beyond the report and expect him to answer. >> so he's reporting a number of democrats are rereading the mueller report.
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how would you advise them to ask effective questions? >> that's always a tough thing. if they want to go beyond the report they need to focus on two things. the whole issue with bill barr. was there interference and when did you decide to end the investigation and how did it come about. questions about the communication between mueller and barr. and the days after the report was handed over to barr. two issues that i hope the committees get into that are not within the four corners of the report. that i hope he answers about. the counter intelligence investigation. where they were looking into whether the president based on conduct was a russian asset. what happened to that? where is it now? is doj and fbi taking it seriously as far as you know and interference going forward in the 2020 election and beyond. what did you learn about interference to help us solve the problem in the future? do you think again the government is prepared for kp preparing for the interference going forward. he may answer them. they're not really within the
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report itself and i hope they ask. >> that way everyone gets something out of his testifying. out of the testimony. help to figure out how to make the next election better. >> hopefully. and the american public learns more about why this investigation was so important. >> listen, the time for questions. it is limited. members of the judiciary could have under five minutes for questions. how do democrats best utilize that time? >> well, so, the number -- i agree. the number one strategic question and schiff. do nay go outside and swing for the fences. the ultimate fence clearing shot would be a question to him, but for the olc memo, would you have found the president guilty of a crime. but if that backfires, and he's sort of bris ld, that's the bad sort of one minute tv shot that they're worried about. they have to approach him
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gingerly. stay in the four corners very carefully. track what's in the report. but then kind of cut the wake a little and see how he is. he doesn't want to be there. but he's a responsive and dutiful guy. and may give them a little. they have to be ginger about it first. so they don't get caught in the situation where they are worse off than if they never ventured outside the report. >> republicans plan to try poke holes in the mueller team credibility. something the president complained about since the investigation began. mueller has already said he will not go beyond what's laid out in the report. how do you see this line of questioning playing out? >> it's interesting. he has said that, one thing he did at the press conference was defend his team. i think even though it's not within the report, he will answer questions that are designed to attack his team. he will jump into defend them. or questions from democrats and
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say listen the team of the non-partisan. career prosecutors and he'll talk about that. i think he'll go there. >> i wonder why you say the home run question would be would you find it appropriate to charge for obstruction? do you thooink he'll answer tha >> the home run is because it puts to rest the tortured interpretation every time you address the criminal conduct you have to say things like didn't the exonerate etc. a careful read suggests strongly that he did. it's the best sort of sound bite going forward. so that's why it would be a home run. >> so how do democrats reenforce the evidence of trump teams obstruction of justice. as well as russian interference in the questioning? >> i missed a little bit of this
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because i had an audio problem. and so if i repeat things that have been said. stop me. i think it's critical that the committee the judiciary committee in particular make use of the house rule that allows a single person to question a witness in a committee hearing and divide the time, divide one hour between the two sides of the committee. republicans and democrats. this is really is the last opportunity conceivably for the democrats to demonstrate that an impeachment proceeding is in order. if this is a big kerr flufl. it's i think over anyway. and they have 30 minutes to really make this point. and two critical things here. number one, they have got to
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make crystal clear through questioning mueller that trump was found to have satisfied the elements of obstruction of justice. but that ewe uniquely they need explain why. and explain that the reason they didn't is because he's the president of the united states. and any other american would have been charged. >> secondly. they need to make clear that mueller found the constitution sets forth a process other than criminal justice to deal with a situation like this. and they need to bring out of him the fact that the other process is impeachment. this has to be brought down to these two points. >> all right. >> and brought home powerfully, clearly and simply. >> thank you all. i appreciate it. we'll be right back.
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people wanted to change my name. i said no way. it's don lemon. lemon is such an easy name. don't you agree? your name. you want people to remember you, >> not always, but, yes, i agree. it's very difficult already having to go through the name. you want people to call them what you want them to call you. >> absolutely. listen, again, congratulations on earning your doctorate. >> thank you. >> i guess it's obvious, but was your background the reason that you chose that research because of your name and because of your experience? >> it's yes and no. yes because, of course, i have a distinctly black name, i believe. however, i was a schoolteacher and i heard a classroom teacher state that her class scores would be in the toilet for that year because of her class list that she had just received. when i looked at the list and
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heard the other teachers talking i realized she was talking about the names. there was no other identifying information on the list except for their gender. >> so what did you learn about the experience? you just talked about it a little bit. the experience of black kids that grew up with these unusual names. what did you learn about that and did you hear similar stories from these kids? because you interviewed a lot of them. >> i did. i heard similar stories. you know, the impacts that they experience were lower teacher expectations, mental stress and anxiety. it hampered their academic performance. their academic achievement. it altered their student/teacher relationships. it made class very difficult and some of them even changed their career goals. thus, you know, impacting their long-term academic and educational outcomes. >> did it impact you that way when you were growing up? >> it did, however, at the same time, it didn't, because i
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bounced back, came back around and became the educator that i wanted to be. and so it turned out in the end, and it turns out -- it's going to turn out in the end for the students that i did interview, they're all very strong just like i was because their names have made them so. >> think about it now. it used to be common people would just name their kids a normal don or john, you know, not that there's anything wrong with that, but if you look at, especially what famous people are naming their kids now, you know, from apple to, like, north west. >> yes. >> plum. all of these things. so, you were just ahead of the curve. you were, like, a trend leader. >> you know, amrk a product of miss branjohnson, my brother. mother, a force to be reckoned with. she'll knock them over. it's really no surprise she
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named me. >> how did she pick that name? >> it's no surprise at all. she once told me that she named me that because that name would take me around the world. just judging when the way articles are written, the way it flies across the internet, i guess thefs right in that sense, however, i could neither confirm nor deny that it was her that said that drinking marijuana and maybe smoking was a great high. it might have been her or someone else along the line. i hear that all the time. and so it's always funny to hear, you know, the feedback. but, yes, she said it would take me around the world and here we go, i'm sitting here with don lemon. >> i got tell you, we're so happy to have you, and i love your spirit. i love that you took what some people thought would be a negative and you turned it into a positive for you. you made it work for you. that is the ultimate lessen fon anyone. i want to ask you, i know you want to talk about it, you're starting the marijuana pepsi scholarship this fall. to help first-generation
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african-american students at the university of wisconsin whitewater. what made you want to start a scholarship? >> right. when i -- when i graduated from high school, i was given a $12,000 wisconsin power and light scholarship and a most improved student award. leading up two years prior to that, i was headed to be a high school dropout. i had all ds and fs. i hadn't done well in school. i'd let everything else just impact me and it turned around and when i received that scholarship two years later, i vowed that i, too, would give back, and i didn't just do the scholarship now. i have literally been taking money out of my educator salary every month -- >> wow. >> -- for the last ten years to endow that scholarship and now it is finally done, and it will send someone a scholarship into
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my grandchildren's grandchildren will be giving out that scholarship because it never ends. it's fully endowed. >> well, all those people who -- >> it's -- >> go on, what'd you say? >> i was going to say, you know, you -- it's pay it forward. that's my mantra. pay it forward. someone did it for me and i want to do it for others. >> all those people who said you should do something different, who made fun of you, guess what, now you are dr. marijuana pepsi vandyck, by the way, right? >> right, that is correct. >> congratulations. keep being a great human. >> thank you so much. >> thanks for joining us. okay? >> thank you, don. >> it was a real pleasure. our coverage continues. laura coats picks up next. matc. no boundaries... ...between my skin and my foundation. true match from l'oreal. seamless, flawless coverage in 45 shades. find your true match. it truly matches my skin. true match is enriched with 80% moisturizing serum yet is lightweight, super-blendable. it means when i wear makeup... it enhances me. with true match... i can't tell where my foundations ends...
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