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good morning, everyone. top of the hour, i'm poppy harlow. >> i'm jim sciutto. the governor is not quitting. nets, however, are the protesters. thousands in the streets of san juan after the governor refused to resign after widespread corruption. rossello stopped short of protesters demands, though, only saying he will not seek another term. >> the island has seen unrest for days as we've been reporting. but today's demonstration right now you're looking at live pictures out of san juan, could be the largest so far.
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it all stems from a leak of private messages between the governor and his inner circle. those messages filled with vulgar and homophobic language. let's go to leyla santiago on the streets of san juan. you've been walking with the protesters, leyla, what are we seeing? >> reporter: i'm standing on the highway. this is a major artery where they have cut off any sort of access into san juan and anything south. let me show you what it looks on both sides. you can see people standing here and cheering on as people are being redirected off the highway. beyond that a lot of the truckers are coming by and honking. when they do that, people are waving those flags and cheering on the calls as they demand the resignation of the governor, ricardo rossello. they say this is not just about some leaked chats, in which people were insulted in the
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conversation he had with his inner circle but this is also about getting rid of corruption. that is what i have heard in the many days we have been here covering this unrest. but let me let you listen to the people themselves. what is your name? her name is lauta. >> where are you from? >> originally venezuela but i've been here 25 years. >> she's been here 25 years. why are you here today? >> we're in here and in general i am here because we're organizing, not only for protests against ricardo rossello but also to organize and make for the primaries new candidates, people that are new. people that deserve and understand our needs. that's why we're here. >> i see you're getting a little bit emotional. it sounds like you're holding back tears. what is it that personally upsets you? >> personally it's the idea that only -- the government only
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listens to a few people, the people that have the control and the power, money and power. right now we're here to say that the many of us, the ones that work for this country deserve to be represented for real. >> but this unrest has been going for days including just outside the governor's mansion. why is this today different from what we've seen this week? >> because it's not a matter about color or who you are or your background, it's about a matter about uniting everyone, all sectors all at once, saying for once and for all this needs to change and will change. >> thank you so much for your time. i appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts with me. that right there is what i have heard echoed throughout this entire week. the protesters here are saying that the governor's announcement yesterday that he will step down as president of his party, that
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he will not run for re-election is not enough to get rid of corruption, which is their goal here in san juan on the island and beyond. >> leyla santiago, thank you so much. wow, she's moved to tears by this. you can certainly feel the angst there, jim. >> the emotion is lasting. joining us to discuss angel rosa, political adviser at the university and former state senator. angel, thank you so much for taking the time. our colleague leyla santiago, she spoke to a puerto rico senator who made the point this is not just about today's move but about whether the governor can effectively govern through october of next year when there will be a new election in light of the breadth of the protest against him right now. i wonder if you agree with that. >> exactly. that's a real problem here. at this point the governor has
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no leverage, no political will in his body, no support in his political party, not even in the legislature. we wonder whether the capacity to exercise -- >> professor, can you talk about what would happen going forward if he is ousted, if there's an impeachment proceeding. i know the house of representatives there is waiting for advice from three legal scholars on what they can actually do here. but you're talking about the fact that they have been in crisis financially. they have been in recession for over a decade. there's a devastating debt crisis. if he's ousted through impeachment, that would just create more uncertainty among bond holders, right? i wonder about the economic impact for all of these people. >> really, there's no uncertainty because the constitution has a process for
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him to be substituted and you only have to follow it. also, i have to point out, this comes on top -- this comes on top of a lot of corruption by agencies the previous week, the revelations from that chat the governor was participating. there's a real problem here, not only affecting governing but honest governing. there's a lot of corruption going around. federal law agencies have been detaining people for that. that's very serious. that, of course, makes a lot of damage not only for the government but economically speaking for puerto rico. >> sure. >> to be fair, though, some of these problems have long existed in puerto rico. i'm wondering why not go through the normal political process, wait for the election next year? you often see these popular demonstrations outside of the political cycle here. why not wait for the elections next year to replace him? >> because the governor's
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expressions in that chat offended almost every group on the island. you have that on top of corruption, on top of economic uncertainty, on top of financial stress here from the government, people are having -- feeling the effects of that financial problem from government, you have a perfect recipe for turmoil. that's what we're having right now. so the governor's expressions in that chat have, in my view, put a question on his character and his capacity to honestly govern in puerto rico. >> professor, is today dpifr different? you have said these protests officially begin just now. is this different from what we saw on the streets of san juan nights in a row last week? is today a turning point? >> well, i think that what we
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are going to see today is a massive protest. not only that, we'll have a general strike on the whole island. so this also the 12th day of protest in a row. this never happens in puerto rico before. you know, if the government, the governor is not listening to what the people are saying, i fear something will happen in the next few days here i in an island that is known for being a peaceful paradise. >> certainly. professor rosa, we appreciate you being here in the midst of everything going on. thank you very much. >> it's a pleasure. this morning iran claims it has broken up a cia spy ring. iran's intelligence ministry says 17 iranian citizens confessed to acting as spies for the u.s., jim. >> iran says they were tempted by the u.s. by offers of
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immigration, jobs here in this country. some of the 17 alleged spies will be executed. iran executes a lot of prisoners. joining me now with detail cnn correspondent matthew chance. this is a familiar narrative in iran, cia spies everywhere. we've heard these charges before. is there reason to believe these charges are credible? >> well, i mean, i think there's a reason to believe the cia probably has activities inside iran, they certainly have in the past. it's resonant with virtually every iranian, they know the united states has conducted operations and does actively conduct them in iran. this is just tapping into that knowledge. it's sort of bolstering this iranian claim domestically. even though they are being accused by the united states and others of being the malign actors in the region at the moment, the iranians are saying to their own people, look, we know, don't we, that the united states is provocative as well and is doing these kinds of
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things. now, in terms of whether it's true or not in this instance, that's an all together different question. what we do know is u.s. secretary of state mike pompeo has been pouring cold water on this story. take a listen. >> i would urge everyone who is reading that story waking up to understand that the iranian regime has a long history of lying. they lied about where they shut down american uav. they have now lied in the last few days about where they took down this tanker. it's part of the nature of the ayatollah to lie to the world. i would take with a significant grain of salt any iranian assertion about actions they have taken. >> just another -- it's just another sort of episode, though, another iteration of this increasingly growing tension in this entire persian gulf region, tensions particularly with the united states and iran but also moving other countries like britain as well, jim. >> the other source of tension at this point, of course, is that iran is holding a british
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flag tanker, this resulting in warnings from the british government. after a series of other provocations, including a shootdown of a major u.s. drone, where does -- where does that crew remain? where does iran stand now on this? is there resolution in sight? >> well, actually within the past few hours there's been the first images of the crew broadcast on iranian-state television. 23 individuals from russia, from india is the majority but also from the philippines and latvia as well. they look well. they look like they are going about their business on the ship. that ship, british oil tanker seized on friday, just a few miles away from where i'm standing and speaking to you from in a port in southern iran. it's under close guard by the iranian revolutionary guard and there's an iranian flag flying over it and no sign at this stage of how this vessel and its
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crew are being released. jim. >> on the persian gulf, matthew chance. thank you very much. back in washington, almost mueller time. high-stakes hearing for democrats as they gear up to question the former counsel in the russian investigation. could wednesday's testimony change minds on impeachment? plus i don't know paul stephens returns to the supreme court for the final time. the late justice's casket arriving moments from now. his former clerks, more than 100 of them, set to serve as honorary pall bearers. >> we're also on top of the protests in puerto rico and a defiant governor. until normalcy. we'd been working for days on a site in a storm-devastated area. a family pulled up. it was a mom and her kids. everything they had had been washed away. the only thing that brought any kind of solace was the ability to hand her a device so she could call her family and let them know that she was okay.
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given another bite at the apple. calling the probe a witch hunt, found no collusion, the president praised him after released, claimed it exonerated him. not so today. congressional reporter lauren fox live on capitol hill. tell us about preparations but also expectations particularly from democrats as we get ready for wednesday's testimony. >> that's right, jim. this hearing has been months in the making. democrats have a lot riding on it when it comes to the public opinion of what exactly is in this mueller report. top democratic committee chairman has a lot to work against pt part of the reality most americans haven't actually read the mueller report. here is what the top chairman had to say about that. >> the report presents very substantial evidence that the president is guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors, and we have to let mueller present those facts to the american people and see where we go from there. the administration must be held accountable. no president can be above the
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law. >> since most in their busy lives haven't had the opportunity to read that report, and it's a pretty dry prosecutorial work product, we want bob mueller to bring it to life, to talk about what's in that report. >> of course last week democrats overwhelmingly voted against a resolution that would have advanced impeachment in the house of representatives. the big question does that change, do the political dynamics change after wednesday's hearing when you hear directly from robert mueller? meanwhile republicans are also doing their own preparations. they want to zero in on the fact there was no collusion according to many republicans. that's what they want to focus on. they want to get robert mueller to basically talk about that section of the report. so republicans and democrats behind the scene doing a lot of preparations for what is going to be a very high-stakes hearing wednesday. poppy and jim. >> all right, lauren. great reporting. thank you so much. let's talk about this, legal analyst, former attorney
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general, professor nyu law and senior analyst at the atlantic. ron, one thing that's striking to me is just how reluctant of a witness mueller is. great "washington post" reporting over the weekend talking about the wi88 times he testified over the years, leaving the fbi, really sour exchanges he's had with both democrats and republicans in congress over those many, many hours of testimony. lisa monaco, his former staff at the fbi, says he goes there with a kind of dread. knowing that, what should we expect? >> i think we should expect he's going to control, modulate where he goes much more than the committee. i expect this could be a very frustrating afternoon and morning for both sides. on the one hand i think republicans are going to face a witness to show how absurd it is to define him as a partisan warrior against the president. the absurdity, i think, is going
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to be exposed from beginning to end. the sheer magnitude of what the mueller report found, particularly on obstruction of justice, is going to have some resonance. just him talking about it as adam schiff said, as opposed to his almost unreadable report, is going to have some resonance. on the other hand, based on that history, it is highly unlikely -- he's going to do triple back flips to avoid giving democrats the sound bite they want essentially saying i would have prosecuted the president if he was anybody else. i think both sides may come out of this more frustrated than satisfied, and i'm guessing he's the one who is going to be in control of exactly where the nobody tur knob turns. >> rob, i can't get mueller triple backflip out of my head. >> that will be a meme. you've been special counsel for some time. "new york times" had a story saying democrats hope the following. they hope to use mueller to refashion his legalistic 448
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page report into a vivid compelling narrative of russia's undermine democracy and efforts to thwart investigators. i wonder knowing what a g man mueller has been and how conservative he is in his public pronouncements, are those hopes too high from democrats? >> i think they probably are. i think mueller will be straight down the middle of the road. i don't think he's going to be political. remember, he can always say i'm going to refer to you page 200 of the report. so it's possible this gets a little technocratic and sort of legalistic seeming. but if they ask the right questions, i think there's a huge amount they can cover on russian interference in the election on obstruction of justice with the president. i think really i would say it's up to congress to ask the right questions of mueller to get the answers they want. they aren't going to be able to say tell us what you found and
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have him give a 20-minute speech. >> to jim's comments about the "times" article coaxing mueller through reading some of the most damaging parts of the report. just read. if you say, okay, this is volume 2, page 2, whatever, okay, could you read us that paragraph, sir. right? but they are also faced with the stark reality of the sentiment of the american people. look at this. this is "wall street journal" polling from this month. only 21% of americans believe that congress should begin hearings on impeachment. you really need to change that number if you're a democrat who wants to move forward with it. >> sure. right. public opinion is not static. we all know that. the hope, advocates believe a process that brought the facts forward would move those numbers. that is a big hill. it reflects the reality. what are we, 15 months from election day. there's kind of a practicality,
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i think, partially embedded in those numbers. it's not that only 21% of the country thinks donald trump did something wrong, those numbers are much higher. i think the enormity of impeachment, especially with the knowledge going in that there's essentially -- especially after the last week, the silence of the republicans -- there's no chance they are going to act kind of makes people see a practical problem in addition to any kind of whether he's crossed the sufficient standard of improper behavior. >> just quickly, there are substantive questions to ask him directly, one being was it the policy, justice department policy, that kept him from indicting the evidence or that he was president. that's a clear question. >> that is a great question. i would also follow up by asking if that was the policy, do you agree with it? do you agree that is the law, the office of legal counsel is filing existing law. >> if he answers it.
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>> can i buy everybody lunch if he answers that question? i will pie everybody lunch if he answers that question, would i have indicted him if he was anybody else, he's going to say i never for the to it because of the guidance. >> it's a fair question. we'll see where it goes. ron, thanks very much. our special coverage of the mueller hearings will begin on wednesday morning starting at 8:00 eastern time only here on cnn. moments from now retired justice john paul stevens, his final trip to the supreme court, his casket, the late justice arriving any moment now. we're there as people from all across the country pay their respects. did you know you can save money by using dish soap to clean grease on more than dishes? using multiple cleaners on grease can be expensive, and sometimes ineffective. for better value, tackle grease with dawn ultra. dawn is for more than just dishes. it provides 3x more grease cleaning power per drop, which cuts through tough kitchen messes, pre-treats laundry stains,
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all right. right now retired justice from retired supreme court justice stevens is arriving there at the supreme court. he served on the supreme court for 35 years and died last week at the age of 99. >> deeply respected by conservative and liberal justices, lining the supreme court are dozens of his former clerks. he had more than 100 of them on his service. stevens will lie in repose and a private funeral tomorrow at arlington national cemetery. joining us now arianda who has
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covered supreme court. he'll rest on a platform used by lincoln. >> he will lie in repose in that great hall. he'll be accompanied by 80 of his former clerks. some of these as pall bearers, then they will stand vigil over the casket as it's in that great hall lying on that platform used for lincoln. he'll be received by chief justice john roberts, aelita, sotomayer, kagan, retired justices. others had commitments. kavanaugh will be here, his wife. as you said, 99 years old. he was put on the bench by gerald ford, a republican, but he became a consistent liberal
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vote on the supreme court. justice elana kagan took his seat. she said last week she was reminiscing, he was a brilliant tactician, a legal craftsman. she talked about how he was always very civil as he was a world war ii veteran. she said something else. he served so long many of the justices seemed to think he was eternal. jim and poppy. >> one of the great things about previous justices many were confirmed unanimously. he was. 98-0. the issue of roe versus wade, for example, dependeidn't even p in his confirmation hearing. this is exactly what president ford was looking for. a great, great legal mind. not someone whose political ideology would influence at all. president ford quoting to the effect, i would let my legacy rest on choosing stevens for the
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high court. >> right, poppy, stevens was proud about that. he was proud ford said late in his life he had no regrets. at the end of his tenure, he was the great dissenter. he dissented in campaign finance case, second amendment case. most notable in butch v. gore. he feared that decision would make courts look political. a lot of people said, look, he was foreshadowing something to come. they said he was right when he wrote that those years ago. >> 5-4 decision, five conservatives ruling in favor. you talked about his legacy. you talked about dissents. where his votes made a difference in effecting people's lives. >> absolutely. he started out as quite a maverick on the court. sometimes he would be the only one who would write separately. as i said, as the years passed along, he felt like his judicial
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philosophy hadn't moved. he said that the conservatives had moved the court. he felt like he had stayed the same but the court had moved. he did change his position in the death penalty. early on he voted in favor of it. at the end of his tenure there, he said he really thought the justices should look at that again. he was known for common sense, looking at things. chief justice john roberts called him a son of the midwest. very straightforward in his opinions. >> 2008, the heller decision on guns and the right to bear arms, such a critical dissent. he said today, shortly before his death, i remain convinced that decision was wrong and certainly debatable it provided nra with a propaganda weapon of immense power. i think one of the last things people 345i have read from him is "the new york times" opinion peace talking about the second
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amendment. >> at the end, after he retired -- many justices after their retirement kind of go away from the public eye, not stevens. he wrote books, appeared, wrote op-eds. he did feel to the end that second amendment case and citizens united had been wrongly decided. here is what is a little bit interesting is, you are going to see all of the clerks line up. they become in many ways a justices greatest legacy. they start off at the courts knowing very little about the law and there they are at the highest echelons of power. they continue on. he served as a mentor. you'll see many of these clerks will write about citizens united, write about the second amendment in op-eds, in law review articles sort of carrying on stevens legacy. he stayed very close with them. he just finished a book last spring and had his last reunion. so these clerks who have become judges, businessmen, law. >>ers, -- professors, they wil
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carry on his legacy, opinions he thinks the newly constructed supreme court should look at again. >> we've been watching those clerks lining the steps turning toward the casket as it makes its way up there into the great hall of the supreme court. thanks very much. stay with us. we'll be right back. okie dough .
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she talks about increasing corporate and household debt, as well as the trump administration's trade war with china. thinking all of this could lead to a pretty deep recession. she explains how her policy to raise federal minimum wage and cancel out student debt could stop an economic downturn. our chief business coordinator christine romans is here and another who follows all things elizabeth warren. let's start with you and what exactly is in the plan. as i read it, a lot of stuff in here she has already laid out. >> this is a dark prediction from elizabeth warren that another financial crisis is coming. she knots she tried to send warning signs in 2008 but nobody listened. she's sending warning signs, pointing to signs in the economy, some you mentioned like rising household debt, corporate debt. she said the manufacturing industry is in a recession. she says she has a plan to deal with this and try to prevent it.
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a big part is reducing household debt. things like increasing minimum wage, canceling student loan debt, reducing the cost of child care and rent. as you said, poppy, a lot of these are plans she has already released in the past. i'll leave it to the economic expert to analyze whether her warning is called for, that there's a financial crisis coming. but speaking politically, it is very, very interesting she has been leaning so hard into this economic message. last week you remember she put out wall street and private equity plan. she's been really going on this theme of thick patriotism. clearly she's starting to make a bet that she wants to emerge the economic candidate out of this democratic field especially if she feels like next year the economy may not be helpful for president trump. >> so christine, she is not -- warren is not alone warning that some of the ingredients of a financial kriingredients may be there. is that a position, you watch
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markets closely, or is that becoming mainstream. >> it's been 10 years of expansion. you've got a stock market going gang busters and an economy strong. lowest unemployment rate in 50 years. right now the signals are all very strong in the economy. what elizabeth warren is pointing to and said in her post yield curve, signals of bubbling corporate debt, households that are stretched. even in such a good economy, households that are stretched. i went back and looked at notes from interviewing her in 2004 when she put out a book "two income trap" she's been remarkably consistent about the game is rigged for people with money and investors and not the average working family. this is not a new position from her. she emerged from harvard university where she had been a professor really beating this drum. she's been consistent on it. she's right, you guys, she was warning about the financial crisis before it happened. she was worried about subprime
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loans. she was worried about all of these -- too much debt for households and lenders who didn't have any skin in the game to protect actual working americans. she sees that happening again here. >> to be clear, it's different -- a coming recession is one thing, end of this economic cycle, but financial crisis is another thing. she's basically saying we're looking at 2008 all over again. >> she's predicting a financial crisis, you're right. she says it's all so precarious. it will take one thing to tip it over. it's interesting because the economy is so strong. it's the economy, stupid. this is a huge advantage for president trump if you can just hold onto the economy here or not have much of a downturn heading into the election year. maybe that dire message of a financial crisis so soon after the last, recent in people's memory, politically that is a savvy kind of message to be having, to remipd people how bad it was. >> i think, mj, in our upcoming cnn debate, a big contrast for
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her. she's not going to be on the same stage as joe biden. this is an area where the two diverge so much and there's such a long history there. >> absolutely. especially when it comes to the issue of financial regulations. remember, it was a day that joe biden announced his campaign that elizabeth warren told reporters, you know, there was a time when joe biden stood on the side of credit card companies. she rarely, rarely takes on other candidates, as we have seen throughout the year, but that was probably the one time that stands out so clearly as her sort of having taken on the politics and the path of another candidate. yes, we are not going to see them together this time but this is an issue that is going to bubble up. >> thank you guys very much. the lineup for the cnn presidential debates are out. look at that. night one, night two. two big nights. july 30th and 31th live right here on cnn. congress and white house racing to hammer out a budget deal friday. so much at stake the u.s. could run out of money before
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lawmakers return from their august recess. >> feels like we do this a couple times a year these days. $1.4 trillion budget ceiling deal. nothing yet on paper. sources say, and this is crucial, president has not yet signed off on the deal. speak to phil mattingly on capitol hill. i'd like to look up debt ceiling, which makes me think it's being raised, not actually a debt ceiling. one thing guaranteed, spending is going to go up here. republicans abandoning demanding the white house, possibly abandoning demands for spending cuts attached to this. >> yeah. that's been a shift from the course of the weekend. welcome to the sprint. you have five days, lawmakers have five days before the house leaves for five-week recess. speaker pelosi made it clear if they want to raise the debt ceiling which the treasury department needs to happen before they leave for the recess a budget deal has to be coupled with it a budget deal would involve $320 billion of
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increased spending over four years. equally divided between pentagon, defense spending, republicans want and domestic democrats want. you honed in on it. there are those that want spending increases of that level to be paid for. that's been the large crux over the last week or so. where they stand right now -- again, nothing is on paper, they are moving towards an agreement but they haven't had key signoffs yet. not much of that will be offset. pieces will, $60 to $80 million will. why that's problematic? conservatives on capitol hill who have real problems on the fiscal side. key players inside the white house, including on the white house's negotiation team. mick mulvaney, acting chief of staff who made clear they are uncomfortable with those spending increases without off sets. now, to counter that, republicans say they might be able to get restrictions on how much democrats can tie-down what the administration can do in terms of moving money to finance their wall. that would be a tradeoff of some
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sort here. the key component, jim, you nail it at the very top. the president has not signed off on anything. they are in the middle of the sprint. they feel like a broad construct of the bill they need sign off on capitol hill and the guy in the oval office which at this point they don't have, guys. >> if you're keeping track at home, u.s. deficit more than a trillion dollars this year for the first time after the 2008 recession. phil mattingly, thanks very much. lawyers accusing major pharmaceutical companies of acting like street drug couriers. coming up, how they say the companies help fuel the opioid crisis. ♪ as your life grows, so do your needs. ♪ and with bank of america and merrill, the benefits you get can grow, too. as a preferred rewards member, you can enjoy priority service and exclusive discounts... so your growing life can be more rewarding, too. ♪
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companies shift hundreds of millions of suspicious doses of opioids to just two counties in the state of ohio. hundreds of millions. cuyahoga and summit counties are at the center of a lawsuit against the makers and the distributors of painkillers. >> so by law, drug companies have to monitor and report any orders of unusual size or frequency to the dea, but the plaintiffs here say the pharmaceutical companies knew about the huge and repeated opioid pill orders to specific towns, specific pharmacies, but failed repeatedly to report that. you were on the oklahoma lawsuit with johnson & johnson. this is about ohio and plaintiffs say these drugmakers and distributors acted essentially like street drug paraders. >> this is the largest case in the country.
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there are over 400 defendants in counties and defendants and even native american governments have all come together and consolidated as plaintiffs in this case. and poppy is exactly right, because what the filing is saying is that with that legal ability to distribute opioids comes an immense responsibility because the health and the general welfare are in your hands, distributors. i want to show you some emails that are in these legal filings and one is from january 27th, 2009 between defendant pharmaceuticals and key source medical. 1,200 bottles of oxycodone had just been sent to them over night. and they wrote back after they got them, keep them coming, flying out of here. it's like people are addicted to these things or something. oh, wait, they are. and then he responds just like doritos, keep eating, we'll make more.
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he also described his job as ship, ship, ship. another email, if you are low, order more. if you're okay, order a little more. and joked that maybe we should destroy this email. oh, well, anyway. we have reached out to victor borelli, the pharmaceutical company, the distributor that received all of that, key source medical. we have not heard from them. but the responses from these defendants is due at the end of july. >> so what is the goal here with this lawsuit? because you have hundreds of thousands of americans who have died. >> right. and what these two counties in ohio are saying, look, judge, we want this issue established lighting aw right away. they did not take the proper protocol of seeing anything suspicious and not shipping it out. they didn't have the plan in place. they shipped anything out that anyone would want at any time, and we want you, judge, to determine that they are responsible for violating the laws and rules under the dea. so it's not an issue at trial.
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this case is proceeding, but if we can determine that they are wrong in this, if they are libel and responsible, then it's not an issue once you come to trial. >> thank you very much for the reporting. we appreciate it. happening right now, thousands on the streets of puerto rico demanding the governor resign. we'll have the live update from san juan in just a minute. [ dogs barking ] what about him? let's do it.
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mallinckrodt anto you, i'm jim washington. and i'm poppy harlow in new york. right now thousands are filling the streets of san juan. they are protesting the governor of puerto rico, calling for ro sar oh to resign. he is refusing to step down. he has vowed to not run for another term, but that's not tough for these thousands, jim, who have clearly taken to the street to get him out. >> it's a remarkable scene from the air there. they want him out after the leak of private messages between the governor and his inner circle. those messages filled with vulgar homophobic language, as well as their broader concerns about the economic situation there. leyla santiago has been on the ground covering these protests. i'm wondering if you could give a sense to folks as to how widespread these protests are now and what people are saying to you as to why

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