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now, almost 6,000 u.s. troops in iraq. barbara starr at the pentagon. thank you very much. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. follow me on twitter and instagram at wolf britser tweet @cnn sit room. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. outfront next, the senate intelligence committee warning the government needs to do more to protect protect america's election. why did senate republicans block four election security bills? plus breaking news, more democrats now say they are onboard with impeaching president trump. but will nancy pelosi stick to her guns and stop impeachment proceedings? president trump backing a bill many in his own party hate. and it is exposing a really big broken promise. let's go outfront. good evening, i'm erin burnett, outfront tonight, trump's republicans back him on russia. senate republicaning blocking four bills bolstering the security of america's elections.
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it's a surprising move given today -- today the senate intelligence committee released this. a 67-page bipartisan report on election interference. and it calls to for more to be done now to protect against russian attacks. and not only that, today the president's own fbi director warned that russians are still attacking the united states. >> we expect much of the same in 2020, especially with new cyber tools kinning to fall in the hands of adversaries who would do us harm. >> do us harm. and it was just yesterday that the former special counsel robert mueller who spent two years investigating russian interference sounded a sirens blazing alarm. >> did you find evidence to suggest they will try to do this again. >> it wasn't a single attempt. they are doing it as we sit here. >> as we sit here. >> but according to the senate intel report, again bipartisan, trump's team struggles to fully get it. let me read this.
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this is coming from page 10. they say the threat remains imperfectly understood. and yet they go on to write a year ago members from the president's intelligence team and department of homeland security told senators shall did dsh i quote from this report -- there were no known threats to election infrastructure. so they knew -- any understood nothing to worry about. no threats that's what team trump said. but weeks later trump's own dhs was forced to say that ws wrong. the bipartisan report continues. dhs assessed that numerous actors are regularly tarring election infrastructure. so there was nothing to be worried about, nothing to see and yet there was. today senate majority leader mitch mcconnell went to senate floor to explain why he personally objected to house legislation. >> it's just a highly partisan bill from the same folks who spent two years hyping up a conspiracy theory about president trump and russia. >> the problem with in is it is impossible to retain credibility on the issue if you use the
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words conspiracy theory. it's not a conspiracy theory that the russians interfered in america's elections. 29 million americans were impact li impacted on facebook. more than two dozen states attacked. yes the russians wanted donald trump to win. yes, trump's campaign chief shared polling data with a russian operative. trump son and son in a law went to get dirt on clinton from the russian government. these are facts, not conspiracies. they are facts np no one should politics in the way of stopping america from being attacked again. so dmaunl doesn't want to support a bill requiring campaigns to report to federal authorities any attempts by foreign entities to interfere in u.s. elections. now, mcconnell is right. if he means you shouldn't need legislation to make sure campaigns do that. right, you shouldn't need legislation to make people do the right thing. but of course team trump did not do the right thing. and president trump said he wouldn't do the right thing if russia tried to help him necessarily again. >> your campaign in time around, foreigners if russia, china,
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someone else offers you information ono an opt opponent accept it or call the fisher. >> there is nothing wrong with listening. you might want to do both. >> but there is something wrong with listening. as bob mueller said yesterday. >> from your testimony today, i gather that believe that knowingly accepting foreign assistance during a presidential kpant is an unethical thing to do. >> and a crime under certain circumstances. >> and a crime -- in given certain circumstances. >> and to the degree it undermines democracy and institutions we can agree it's also unpatriotic. >> true. >> and wrong. >> true. >> kaitlyn collins outfront live outside the white house. kaitlyn will the president ever admit how significant the problem is here. >> i think his skepticism has always been a concern, not just for the president's critics but even for people working in his administration, who say they have to go out of their way to
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avoid bringing up the topic because they know it irritates the president. despite that they say they are working aggressively behind the scenes to counterand work against this in an aggressive fashion. they point to briefings like they have. naming an official to oversee election security and intelligence as a method to combat that. but there are concerns that the president's skepticism undermines the efforts and he is not the one leading those. you see that reflected in a letter from house democrats sent to the white house today saying they want the president to have an indpepgt depth briefing they got on election interference and they want to know the president is taking is seriousty. the white house responded to the letter a few moments ago with a deputy press secretary hogan guyedly telling cnn in a statement essentially they believe democrats are the ones grand standing we it comes to election entertains and in part in that statement said the trump administration is the first to institute a whole of government approach with the fbi, dhs, state and local officials to protect the integrity of our
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elections. but of course there are always going to be questions about whether or not the president himself does take it seriously, erin. >> kaitlyn, thank you very much. en and outfront now the chairman of the house homeland security security committee democrat congressman bennie thompson. chairman, i appreciate your time. you are demanding president trump get the same election security briefing you get as members of congress. -on sent a letter to the white house today saying you met with multiple agencies about this. and quote, none of the briefers could confirm that trump has ever received a comprehensive election security briefing. in advance of the 2020 election. why do you think that is? >> well, it's partly not believing that russia had anything to do with our election tampering with our election. but more importantly, at the particular briefing, those individuals who were asked, are you aware of any briefing, no one was aware. it went so far as to say, give
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us the name of the person in the white house who is coordinating election security. nobody could come up with a name. and so a lot of people in that briefing were absolutely stunned that here we are, two years past the election, and the white house still does not see it as a priority from their standpoint. >> so they responded to your letter tonight. they just give a statement to our kaitlyn collins. i wanted to quote from part of it, chairman. saying, quote, you'd think the democrats would have learned to stop grand standing and take election security seriously especially when you consider twos rowe it was president obama who knew russia was trying to interfere with elections but did nothing about it. your ball, chairman. >> well, i'm not surprised at it. three years ago we tried to get the republicans to work with us on looking at election security. the republicans refused.
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so we produced the democratic task force report that talked about the critical infrastructure problems we were having. we produced our report. generated legislation. and many of the recommendations that we put in that report ultimately came out in our legislation. we have to put investment in our election system. we have to coordinate with secretaries of state to make sure that their systems are as best we can have in terms of he can tamperproof. we came up with legislation and passed it. now it's up to the senate to do its work. at some point the white house had to get beyond its denial that the russians did not tamper with our elections. so here we are as late as two weeks ago, the entire house of representatives was briefed that not only did the russians tamper
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in the 2016 election, but they are now looking for the next elections. >> the white house then -- you know they anhydrous add in response to your letter thankfully the middling didn't affect the outcome, the trump administration has instituted the first ever whole of government approach with the fisher, dhs and state and local officials to protect the integrity of our elections. and here is the fbi director christopher wray, the d had. s cyber security chief. chris crabs both talking about this today, chairman. here they are. >> we have yet happily to say attacking manipulating or deleting election and voter related data, or attacks that take election management systems off line. but we know that our adversaries are relentless. so are we. >> we're not going to be caught flat footed again. we are ready and preparing for 2020. >>. >> is it possible chairman that
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despite the president's personal refusal to blame russia or willingness to take it seriously that the united states is ready? >> we are not sure, bus we have not put investment in the election infrastructure that we need to. to the dhs's credit, they have said our system of election has been declared critical infrastructure. now, we need to support it. a number of states don't have the type of machines to do the votes. as you know, most of the way people get registered is using the internet. >> yes. >> the russians did an awful lot of mischief over the last election cycle. we documented over 20 states that had problems with election systems before. so we need to fix it. and so for the president at his leadership role to still be in denial, that's a real problem. >> i want to ask you before you
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go because i know, kmarm you supported impeachment proceedings since late may. the house minority leader kevin mccarthy said today i hope yesterday was an historic day. the failure failure of what they saw what they would try is the final chapter of this book. was bob mueller's testimony the final chapter? is impeachment off the table. >> well, as you know i've been one of those individuals who feel that we need to go forward on it. when attorney mueller said the president should be indicted if it had not been for the department of justice memo, that speaks volumes for me that he did something wrong. but as long as he is president he is held harmless for doing wrong. but, as you know, we have the impeachment opportunity. i'm one of those individuals who want to do that. i'm convinced that the president has not been truthful. as long as he is there he will
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ti continue to be not truthful. >> thank you. >> breaking news, more democrats including leadership in support of impeaching president trump getting on the samd same tide as chairman thompson but is the house speaker going to run out the clock. plus team biden slamming kamala harris kelg telling cnn everyone is looking for the t-shirt moment. but not biden. is this what voters want. and president trump backing a spending bill flying in the face of a promise he made for years. >> where the economy grows we'll reduce our debt and reducing it bigly. [happy birthday music]
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legislative days left. congress -- the house just left town for a six-week summer recess. there is not much time and they are going to run quickly into 2020 campaign seasonen and harder to move forward. that's when there is a push internal to mount the informal impeach president proceeding one person calling for the impeachment is chairman jerry nadler. he made the case to move forward. the speaker has not been there at this point. but nadler suggested that it could be an idea worth pursuing. now behind closed doors yesterday at a democratic caucus meeting the idea of moving forward in impeachment inquiry came up through various members, raising the idea jerry nadler talked about the idea of graft are drafting articles of impeachment along with five other democratic chairman who are investigating this president. i'm told this was floated as an idea, a possibility but not something that is imminently happening. . but what colleague haves spoken to jerry nadler spoke to me said
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he suggested there are key moments in the country where it playbooks sense to move forward in the aftermath of the moments to move forward with the impeachment inquiry. democrats point to the aftermath and the mueller hearing and the mueller report release. as the opportunities. the concern i'm hearing from democrats is that they have missed opportunities in moving forward. but the speaker, some believe shifted her tone, suggested a more openness to move forward on impeachment inquiry and said this is not going to be quote endless. and her colleagues hope her tone may change if there is a triggers ing event. but what is that ultimate triggering event, erin? it could be left up to the courts if something happens in the courts or the president does not abide by a court order that could change the calculus for some key democratic chairman whether that changes the speaker's calculus as well remains to be seen. but this party heading into the summer break not on the same page about moving forward on impeachment probe. >> manu thank you very much. i want to go to keith boykin
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from the clinton white house aide and paul begala who served as aide to president clinton. keith has the clock run out. nancy pelosi had reasons for stalling. now when you you i talk to people in the senior leadership in the senate they look for this or that happening. they're not talking about the mueller report. have they run out the clock. >> i don't think there is a clock. the constitution doesn't say the president shall be impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors unless the congress is about to have an august recess. there is nothing in the constitution like that. the law is the law. and the members of congress have a constitutional duty, obligation to hold the president accountable. nancy pelosi already said we are in a constitutional crisis. she already said that donald trump should be in prison. what more needs to be said in order to justify the holding the president of the united states accountable for his misbehavior. >> this is what now 97 democrats. you've had four i believe jump onboard in the past 24 hours,
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paul on the impeach president train. five. i'm sorry. the house is heading out for a six-week recess though. and this issue of trying to run out the clock paul we are hearing again and again here are two more democrats. >> if we don't take action on september 1st we should shut it down because we shall not doing anything faul. i feel strongly we should. but i think we are running out of time. >> this is all an agenda that has to happen in 2019 if it's going to happen. so the clock is ticking. >> so, paul, speaker pelosi, is she saying okay do what you want now you can go ahead with this because she thinks she won? i mean, look, she has made it clear she doesn't think trump is fit for office. but she didn't want impeachment proceedings does she think he she has won. >> i think it's an open book. i think the august recess is awfully important. that's when the members nearly 100 in the the in the democratic
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party supporting nearly 130 who don't. you don't have the majority calling for impeachment. when they go home they will listen to constituents. maybe the constituents say hey we saw mueller really change my mind process. we have to impeachment and you have to do that for me because you work for me. maybe they won't. maybe they'll say you guys in washington you are playing trump's game by making him the center of attention. meanwhile my kid needs prescription medicines. my another in the nursing home needs smgs and trump is cutting it. i think the better strategy is pelosi. don't always focus on in president who we all -- my party keith and i can't stand. put the voters at the center of things for once. >> i agree with what you are saying, paul. two thirds of democrats have said they support impeachment. 69% of african-americans support impeachment. for all the democrats are making on prescription drug bills, bills about holding the president accountable, yemen,
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saudi arabia, bills with raising the minimum wichmann, bills with the equality act, none of that is passing the senate. there is no progress. we can pass all the bills we want in the house to show we believe in something but we have no control of the senate and don't do anything to hold the president accountable whens the point of power if you don't use the power. >> that's a great point. and erin your audience should know keith and i work down the hall from each other. love this guy. this is the only time i think i've disagreed with him. not only is the senate blocking it but the democrats haven't gotten credit for all the great things keith talked about. the equality act, a minimum wage, a good bill to clean up campaign finance. passed terrific laws and get no credit preponderate because the attention goes for the giant orange fire ball. >> on this impeachment issue, coating, look, the white house is jumping on impeachment. they think they won. they think that yesterday was
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the win. okay. here is kellyanne conway today. >> i thought yesterday was supposed to be in unbelievable movie better than the book and bob mueller was going to pave the golden road, the yellow brick road to impeachment. clearly that didn't happen. it's not happening. >> i don't know what she is talking about. i think bob mueller said exactly what the mueller report said in 440 pages. maybe he didn't strike the image that they wanted for television. but the -- regardless of the image, he communicated that president trump was not exonerated, that there was still credible evidence of possible obstruction of justice for the president of the united states. >> unpatriotic. he used those words. >> exactly. you can't look at the testimony and say just because it wasn't made for television mean it wasn't compelling. it was compelling. and whether you read the report or saw the television version it's the same thing. donald trump needs to be held accountable for misconduct in office. >> paul, 35 democrats are they getting onboard?
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>> 135 democrats. >> no, i know. but right to get the majority they need more. >> to get to the number that they need, i don't know. i think we'll know from the august recess. i have to tell you i would listen to nancy pelosi, though. my party and keith's party we won the biggest landslide in mid-terms since watergate we didn't just win in the bronx and queens. democrats won in oklahoma, in utah, my beloved texas. and in georgia, south carolina. we did that by following nancy pelosi's lead. it's good enough for me. i think she has it exactly right. >> thank you both very much. next joe biden fighting back. slamming kamala harris and one of her biggest plans. >> come on. what is this? is this a fantasy world here? >> oh, there is a fight now. plus house republicans revolt against president trump, calling him out on a lie. will senate republicans stand up or cave to trump?
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no. he is coming out hard. senator kamala harris, giving her a warning. things are going to be different at next week's debate on cnn. biden saying quote i'm not going to be as polite this time because this is the same person who asked me to come to california and asked me to nominate in her convention. and this morning biden said this about his relationship with harris. >> i thought we were friends. and i hope we still will be. it's cordial. but i have to admit to you i was a little surprised. >> that was a lot nicer than as the day went on. jessica dean. jessica it sounds like we aring seeing a different joe biden. >> i think you are right. there is a noticeable shift. you showed us several examples of that. and we are learning from sources that this -- this shift is being led by biden himself. that senior advisers had urged him to be more aggressive earlier in the campaign than ar the debate he went become and rewatched the tape and told them i think i need to fight back a little bit more. and advisers had come to the
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conclusion that they wanted to move him forward, more of the day to day conversation. they wanted to be more aggressive. but this was accelerated post debate. today an example of that one senior official saying everyone is looking for the t-shirt moment and joe biden thinks this is bigger than telling t-shirts taking taking a shot at kamala harris and her debate moment from a plont ago. i talked to someone close to the campaign and this is what they told me. i thought this was really interesting. he wants to be president. joe biden wants to be president was the point he was making. he is running for a lifetime achievement award or effecting this to be given to him. anybody tahoe thinks he quietly goes no the night peterson this is a guy surviving 40 some odd years of public life and he is not rolling over. erin, his advisers and he know that people will try to represent weaponize his record. but they say everyone is proud of the record, proud of the policies they put out and feel
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confident going into the next debate. >> jessica thank you very much. of course you know kamala harris campaign infamously had the t-shirts made when she went in for the slay on the busing topic. outfront now democratic mayor of philadelphia, michael nutter long-term supporter of joe biden and "new york times" editor patrick healy. patrick you're with me. the next debate is six days away. joe biden knows the last debate didn't go well. talking to a senior exact the other day says this is his moment. if he doesn't do it at the mechanics debate he might be done. joe biden knows that it matters. and he is changing his strategy. >> yeah. they were all concerned coming out of the last debate that he was not only playing defense but he was playing defense really poorly against senator harris who is a you know very strong candidate. he cannot afford to simply, you know, be trying to sort of gently push back and often looking like he lost a step, not nimble, not on the ball in how
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he responds to whether it's senator harris or in this case the cnn debate next woke, senator booker. he has a number of people coming at him. this is a guy who needs to play offense. he can't just be talking about president trump like all the democrats are. he needs to show that there is a reason why in democratic party right now should be nominating, you know, a joe biden, who really was a figure of stature years ago. why now. >> that is the crucial question, right. mayor nutter is this a smart move by the campaign? you know and they throw out the t-shirt jab. we hear that from a lot of people that's not how joe biden is playing this time. but he is getting in there taking off the gloves. is it smart or desperate. >> it's absolutely smart. as i say this is not being back. this is presidential politics. and joe biden is going to be himself. he knows that he did not have a
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great first debate. and, you know, i'll say that's a little rust. and he has been off the campaign trail a little while. but this is the real joe biden. and he is not messing around. s in there is a way to kwon va the point without being nasty or personal. i disagree with any of that. but he is also not going to be a human punching bag. you say something about me, you say something about my record, i'm going to clap back at you. and have something to say about it. i mean that's just kind of the rules. but there is a way to convey it. and it's more than appropriate. he knows that. >> all right. so kamala harris, right that was the moment. that was the moment. and that was not a good moment for joe biden. it was a breakout moment for kamala harris. she has said you can have medicare for all without raising taxes. bernie sanders has been too honest perhaps about the situation. saying you have to raise taxes on the middle class. joe biden took her on personally on this.
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here he is. >> bernie has been honest. it's going to cost raise action at as on the middle class. i find people saying they are for medicare for all and don't need to tax the middle class. ? a fantasy world here? >> okay. that was directed at kamala hair zblies right. and he was very zmifs. look there are a lot of liberal democrats who have concerns about what kamala harris believes in and doesn't believe in. and why isn't she more specific about how she is going to pay for things. how can you be for a medicare for all single payer program and not believe that you know middle class taxes are at some point going to be needed to pay for it? so, you know, kamala harris is vulnerable there. i mean, she pressed on the details we have seen multiple times on cnn and interviews where she sort of said one thing she is for abolishing private health insurance and then she says well, actually, wait. >> yeah, i misundered the
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question. >> and biden knows did -- he knows there is an opening. >> mayor nutter he has to be careful, right. obviously some of his worst moments, you know, in his politicsle life were when he talked about barack obama in extremely racial and disparaging terms. and now he goes against kamala hair zblies there is no question that you have to be very, very careful. i've run against as a guy run against a female candidate. and then you put in all the other components of, you know, race and gender and what whole bunch of other issues. there is no question that vice president biden -- joe biden needs to be careful. but, again, you have to be able to get your points across. and do it in a way that is not personal, not nasty, is not -- don't get into a male/female debate. i have a plan. you have a plan let's talk about plans. i think if you stay on policy you're fine. >> all right. well let's see what happens. >> don't have to get personal.
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breaking news, trump's budget deal. it's done. the house passing a budget deal that will explode the national debt and deficit. and the president celebrating its passing tweeting i'm pleased to announce the house has passed our budget deal. and this is after threatening republicans and telling them earlier today, quote, house republicans should support the tau-year budget agreement which greatly helps military and vets. i'm totally with you. he told them it was important. they needed to get in line and get behind it. but a lot of them didn't. in fact, the majority, 132 republicans stood up and voted against their president. the bill suspends the debt limit, adding 300 billion in spending ends all spending cuts which means the national debt is going to continue to balloon. and trump expert for more
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spending and more debt wherever he can get it is breaking a big promise. a promise that he made to the american people again and again and again. >> where the economy grows we will reduce our debt and reducing it bigly. we have to get rid of debt and balance our budget. with the $20 trillion in debt can you imagine? the government must lean to tighten its belt. >> we have 21 trillion in debt. when in really kicks in we'll start paying off that debt like it's water. >> one thing we have a lot of debt. i want to get it out. i want to pay it off. >> he doesn't really want to pay it off. right it was 20 trillion, 21 trillion. so upset about it pay it down like water. he has run it up. now 22 trillion thanks to imhad. yufrpt pb congressional correspondent at the "new york times." julia hirschfield davison. and despite the plea to republicans, get onboard. they didn't they opposed the bill he supported by a 2-1 margin and it goes to the senate. will we see a similar thing in
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the senate where the senate republicans stand up to trump. >> i think some senate republicans will vote against the bill. the republicans on the house side and senate side as well are uncomfortable with the idea of exploding the kefz o deficit. many of them don't like the huge levels of spending. they made promising similar to ones played from from the president to their constituents they wouldn't allow spending to sky rocket. many of them ran on the platform of preventing that. in the house because they are not in the majority they had the luktsry of voting no as a protest on the bill. but in the senate where the republicans have the majority i expect to see some defections but essentially most republicans will fall in line behind the deal because they understand that the stakes are so high that they sort of can't afford to miss the opportunity to get a budget deal and the debt ceiling raised. >> so, you know, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell is on team trump. he says the agreement secures the most important priority of the republican conference in my
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view, the most important obligation of the entire congress. so he thinks this is so great to you know do all the extra spending. and yet in 2011 when president obama wanted to increase spending and borrowing, senator mcconnell was a man of principle. here he is. >> the president's budget is the clearest sign yet he simply does not take our fiscal problems seriously. the real point is this. we're broke. we're broke. we don't have the money. it's not an american value to borrow from others to pay for programs we don't need and can't afford. >> julie, do republicans care about the hypocrisy of words and actions now? >> i think the short answer is no. i mean when you are in the majority and it's up to you to cut one of niece deals, some of knows principles go out the window in the service of actually getting a compromise. and in this case mitch mcconnell knew that the president needed to get a deal that nancy pelosi would sign onto because the democrats control the house. and doing that was going to
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require agreeing to some level of spending. and when you have deadlines like they are facing on the debt limit and on the budget caps agreement itself it really becomes a forcing mechanism. all the principle goes out the window in the service of just cutting a deal. it's sort of the opposite of the drain the swamp message that we often hear from president trump. but that's what ends up happening. >> thank you very much julie. i appreciate your time. >> thank you. and next dr. sanjay gupta on one of the most important issues in this campaign that he knows more about than anyone and jeanne moos on the mystery between the russian inspired presidential seal that literally appeared next to president trump. do your asthma symptoms ever hold you back? about 50% of people with severe asthma have too many cells
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>> access to health care should be a right. >> it's time for this country to make quality affordable health care a right and not a privilege. >> better, cheaper health care. it's a challenge no matter where you are on the political spectrum. >> i think people are really frustrated with the current health care system. >> a health law expert at georgia state says the system has fundamental flaws. >> it's really the worst consumer experience. >> and we pay a lot for it. the united states has the most expensive health care in the world. around $3.5 trillion a year. >> people should in the be forced into financial ruin, into bankruptcy for one reason, because someone in the family became ill. >> in 2016 his was a lone voice. but many democrats now get in line behind bernie sanders who has long called for a single payer system. >> i'm with bernie on medicare for all. >> how does this plan differ from what senator sanders is
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proposing? >> i think that they're very similar. in a single payer system everyone would be automatically enrolled in a government-run health care program like medicare. >> it would cover doctors visitors, hospitalizations, but also hearing there would be some copays for brand name prescription drugs. but a litmus test is starting to take shape. the question is will a single-payer system also eliminate private insurance was we know it >> who here would abolish their insurance for a government run program? >> reporter: sanders and harris along with new york city mayor bill de blasio raised their hands. harris later said she misinterpreted the question. >> anyone who has their employer-based insurance can keep it if they want. >> the former vice-president joe biden doesn't envision a system without private insurance, and he is leading the charge on the public option.
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perhaps no surprise, biden wants to expand obamacare. >> in a public option, everyone would have the option to buy a medicare type of plan for themselves, but they wouldn't be automatically enrolled. >> we can protect and build an obamacare and make sure at least 97% to 100% of the american people have coverage. >> reporter: biden's plan caps premiums and offers subsidies to buy insurance regardless of your income. biden says his proposal would cost $750 billion over ten years. money he would raise primarily through taxes and cutting costs. sandra's plan calls for tax increases as well. money that he believes will be more than offset by lower premiums. >> my guess is that people in the middle class will be paying somewhat more in taxes, but they're going to be paying significantly less overall in health care. >> reporter: harris says she believes her plan could be achieved without a middle class tax increase.
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>> senator sanders -- >> part of it is going to have to be about wall street paying more, it's going to have to be about how we -- and what we tax. >> reporter: but medicare for all may not be an easy sell politically. a recently released npr/pbs marist poll found 730% for all who want it. four in ten say it is a good idea if there is no longer private insurance. and 54% are even more blunt saying it's a bad idea. >> it's pretty incredible when you see all this laid out and the plans. obviously everyone was told there was this problem, we were going to get everyone on insurance, that was obamacare. everybody went on with the mandate but everybody didn't go on. what is the deal with obamacare? >> it's been very confusing, no question. and in texas back in december, there was a district judge that basically ruled that the individual mandate that you could mandate people to buy private insurance was unconstitutional and, therefore, the entire law was unconstitutional. that's what this judge actually
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argued. that decision sort of been put on hold, so the law stands as it has been for a while now. but this is going to go through the legal system maybe to the supreme court again. >> again, right. as people have seen such skyrocketing costs under obamacare looking for a cheaper alternative. sanjay, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> next jeannie on the mystery behind the fake presidential seal. it's there. it's not photo shopped in, people, it was there. you try hard, you eat right... mostly. you make time... when you can. but sometimes life gets in the way, and that stubborn fat just won't go away. coolsculpting takes you further. a non-surgical treatment that targets, freezes, and eliminates treated fat cells, for good. discuss coolsculpting with your doctor. some common side-effects include temporary numbness, discomfort, and swelling. don't imagine results, see them. coolsculpting, take yourself further.
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that the presidential seal behind him wasn't as presidential as it should be, and someone would get fired over it. wow is right. look at that two-headed seal, the real seal has one eagle. it's the russian federation coat of arms that features two birds and the eagle in the real seal clutches arrows, but the fake was holding golf clubs. the imposter seal pro claims the 45th president, 45 is a puppet in spanish. >> no puppet, no puppet. >> it's pretty clear -- >> you're the puppet. >> reporter: the parody presidential seal was projected at the recent turning point usa team summit for conservative youth. right away you think prankster, somebody is trolling president trump behind his back. trump critics tweeted, give them a medal. someone posted putin clapping. but turning point usa says we're sorry for the mix up and meant no disrespect.
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just a couple of hours before the event, the turning point folks were asked to project a presidential seal. a source says an audiovisual aid did a google image search to find a seal. lots came up, including the parody. the source says the a.v. person didn't notice that it was a doctored seal, a seal that sold on tank tops and throw pillows by a graphic designer known as one-turn donnie who told cnn he is a hard time believing someone used his design by accident. there have been other seal isn't that fews. >> we cannot sustain -- woops. was that my -- >> reporter: yep, your presidential seal. >> they're sweating bullets back there right now. >> reporter: and someone back there at the trump event must have been sweating bullets. the audiovisual person got fired, even if the president claps like a seal. there's no excuse for showing a bogus seal with an eagle holding
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golf clubs like he's going to shoot a birdie. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> that is the story that if you made it up, nobody would believe you. and that's the world we live in. anderson starts now. >> good evening. the senate intelligence committee just released its final report on russian interference in the 2016 presidential campaign and it contained a warning. the effort to which the report says targeted all 50 states in 2016 are ongoing. the threat continues, which should not come as a surprise. robert mueller said the same thing just yesterday. >> in your investigation, did you think that this was a single attempt by the russians to get involved in our election or did you find evidence to suggest they will try to do this again? >> it wasn't a single attempt. they're doing it as we sit here and they expect to do it during the next campaign. >> well, a little less than four hours after mr. mueller said


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