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tough. >> he won't be off the stage. some of the others will. he will be there but doesn't want to lose the lead. >> to all the viewers the tuesday and wednesday knit cnn democratic presidential debates, 8:00 p.m. eastern. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. outfront next, a huge move for democrats, the chairman of the judiciary committee announcing he is essentially launched of an impeachment inquiry. plus president trump predicting easy win in 2020. but is the white house actually a whole lot more worried than they are letting on? and democrats gearing up for cnn's debate. joe biden and kamala harris reviewing details about the strategy. let's go outfront. and good evening, i'm erin burnett "outfront" tonight a huge move on impeachment food the chairman of the house judiciary committee going before cameras to tell the american public he is launching an impeachment inquiry by another
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name. >> just saying there is no difference between what you are doing now and an impeachment inquiry, correct in. >> in effect. >> in effect. nadler believes that this lawsuit which he just filed today is his path to getting secret, never before seen grand jury records from the mueller investigation. secret evidence which includes interviews with trump's inner circle, evidence that the trump administration has news far refused to hand over. and evidence that nadler believes holds the key to proving president trump must be impeached. now, so tonight with this move, with this lawsuit to get the grand jury information, nadler is giving the impression that things are moving on impeachment. and they are. tonight 101 members of congress are calling for formal impeachment inquiry six jumping on brody since robert mueller's testimony in front of congress this week. the most obvious way to get the secret grand jury testimony is to launch formal impeachment proceedings.
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but nadler is filing the lawsuit to get the secret information to do it this way, an end around, because house speaker pelosi is not yet onboard. >> we went proceed -- we will proceed when we have what we need to proceed. not a day sooner. everybody has the liberty and luxury to espouse their own position and criticize me. >> well, right now, the majority of democrats are behind pelosi. but make no mistake. as you watch tonight this is changing. and nadler's lawsuit is a new chapter on the road to impeachment. >> i would say we are in an impeachment investigation. >> this is an impeachment investigation. >> and the person at the center of this impeachment investigation is defiant tonight. saying he is not afraid. >> these people are clowns. the democrats are clowns. they are being laughed at all over the world.
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>> manu raju is outfront live on capitol hill. so, manu, look, this lawsuit is a very significant development. why does chairman nadler think -- what does he think he will get in the frank information? right? i mean they are counting on something being there. >> they are trying to build a case against the president and very significantly citing they need the information to determine whether or not to move forward with giannecchiniment -- articles of impeachment that his committee would take up. now in debate has been brewing internally for weeks. the house judiciary committee, democrats have tried to push forward on the issue of going forward with impeachment inquiry. jer are nadler himself directly appealed to the speaker over several woks making the case they need to move forward. she has resisted time and again. but significantly, erin, i'm told she did sign off on the language in the lawsuit saying articles of impeachment are under consideration by the house
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judiciary committee. she gave the green light to that. also she has given the greenlight to the members if they need to support impeachment inquiry. she says go ahead. similarly today when i asked is she trying to run out the clock by saying why don't we fight out in court. she is saying she is not trying to run out the clock. instead of saying it's a fruitless endeavor because republicans in senate will kill the impeachment move and not remove the president from office, she is not saying that anymore. saying let's see what we get in court and then this will make a decision. she said today when i asked her about it it will not be endless. the move today very significant. you could hear the posture and changing from the leadership. whether they pull the trying err, still an open question. but a major development in the direction a lot of democrats have been pushing to impeach the president. >> thank you very much manu. i want to go now outfront to the
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democratic congresswoman. lisa blunt. >> is this lawsuit the start of impeachment proceedings. >> i don't serve on the judiciary committee but i can tell you first of all to put some context around me making the decision. >> yes. >> it was a very difficult one. and it's one i didn't take lightly. i represent a whole state. i'm one of seven members representing a whole state, a diverse state from our farmers to small business, to indivisible. appear there has to be a tipping point. this week for me was a tipping point. >> what exactly was the tipping point? >> yeah, you know, first of all, anyone who had an opportunity to read the 448-page report saw that there were already the actual examples -- ten of
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obstruction of justice. and we have also -- i thought it was also pretty strong for director mueller to talk about the president not being exonerated. but one of the other things that was a tipping point was when val demings, the congresswoman from florida asked the question about the president being truthful. and to hear the director say that he was not at all times truthful was important. and then in another tipping point for me was the fact that we have seen so much stonewalling, so many people not provide either information, testimony or even come before the committee. and so to me impeachment -- the proceedings are one of the way for us to add a firmer legal ground and put more pressure. lastly, i'm going to tell one of the biggest tipping point for me was to see this director mueller who served our country dmirably worked for democrats and republicans and to see the pain on his face when he expressed fear this this might become the
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new normal. it can't become the new normal. that was the tipping point for me. this is not normal. >> i know, look you agenized. a few of the points you made there happened in the hearing, the look on his face, the moment. >> yes. >> and we had congresswoman demings on that night when he said the president of the united states was untruthful in some of the written responses. that was a stunning moment. but the president today said i watched mueller too. and here was his take away. >> all they want to do is impede. they want to investigate, go fishing. and i watched bob mueller and they have nothing. >> nothing. >> so if i could respond, i think first of all there are things that we are doing as democrats and republicans. i'm on the energy and commerce committee we are working on bills that affect people. we passed 25 bills this past
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week por health care wsh climate change, robo calls. we have a responsibility, took an oath that nobody is above the law. and we have within the constitution the responsibility to follow in investigation where it leads. and so there are clearly things that are evidence and part of the impeachment process is actually to get at the- at the real evidence that's there. >> spo let me ask you about that. because that real evidence that's there -- obviously, you know, the belief of the house judiciary chairman jerry nadler is that the grand jury testimony is crucial to that. you need the interviews and everything else. one way to get that is formal kbechment proceedings that you go ahead and get that. the white house obviously refused to hand it over. fight going in court. another chairman nadler believes is this lawsuit he filed to get it. but as to what's happening right now, is this impeachment or not? let me play again the exchange he had with our manu raju, congresswoman. >> just saying there is no difference betweenway you are doing now and impeachment
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inquiry, correct? >> in effect. >> in effect. is that good enough for you? >> you know, again, i don't sit on the committee. i have faith and confidence in the speaker. i have feegt and confidence in t faith and confidence in the members of the committee in addition to five others in the midst of investigations from everything from receiving his tax returns. >> chairman nadler is the one who formally launched the proceedings if they were to occur for the house. he says in effect obviously the house speaker says she is not there yet. >> correct. >> i guess what i'm getting at is are you frustrated right now or clean sailing? >> you know, i don't think it's an issue of that. i think it's an issue of the speaker has a job to do. she cares about this country. she doesn't want to see us divided anymore we already are. she has to do her work. she has said to us as members that she respects us and the positions that we have to take.
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for me, you know, i have shared with others, i was a kid that grew up in the '60s when russia was a scary threat to us when we had air-raid drills. to see a campaign and administration not look at the attack that was made on our country, and it was an attack. it might not have been nuclear. but it was a real attack. and it mass affected us. and to me, we have to -- we have to hold him accountable, no one is above the law. >> all right thank you very much. >> and if we love this country, we got to fight for this country. >> thank you very much congresswoman as always i appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> and outfront next, president trump slamming the 2020 candidates. >> sleepy joe is okay. elizabeth warren, formally known as polk hon as is fading. >> one kpt he is not going after
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why? plus joe biden preparing for the pile oh on at the debate. and president trump coming to north korea's defense saying it's okay to test a missile. >> they are short-range missiles. and many people have those missiles.
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an easy victory in 2020. and he says he will have the democrats to thank for four more years. >> i think it's a disgrace what the democrats are doing. it's -- it's so sad to see what they are -- how they are impeding all of the good things that we are doing. that's why we are easily going to hold the presidency. >> trump's words, his bluster coming as the top political advisers have been warning him of a lot of threats from the democrats. sources tell cnn tonight that the head of the rnc warned trump that kamala hair sis a threat in michigan where the president won by the slimmest of margin 0.2%. trump's campaign manager pointed out that elizabeth war isn't on the rise and a seen year campaign adviser telling him that joe biden remains a threat certainly as the 2020 opponent. trump upset about all of this and slamming a fox news poll shows him losing to biden by 10 points nationwide. the president's tweet fox news
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at it again. so different from the 2016 warriors and before. proud warriors there can be no way in the the proudest economy in the u.s. history i can lose to the sleepy one. and bidden not the only potential rival he bashed in the sprf. take a listen. >> sleepy joe is okay. but fading. i thinkis fading fast. the only good thing about mueller is it made joe biden look like a dine a mow. you have elizabeth warren known as pochahontas. that's coming out because that's tough to withstand because her whole life was a take. you have harris. and bernie looks like he is fading. too many bernie looks like he missed his time. >> the running compensatary. abby phillips outfront. here is the question. president coming out and say sleepy joe and formerly lone as polk a honest is the president
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worried. >> the president's team has been warning him about joe biden for months. even after the first debate that threat is clearly still there, given that this briefing held just yesterday featured joe biden, president trump also seems to be focused on biden critiquing haggaiing his stamina but what's interesting is the rising threat of other candidates. some of whom they dismissed like elizabeth warren as president trump mentioned his continued critique of her for her native american -- debate over native american heritage. and kamala harris who the president noted when she laufrmd her campaign but had fallen off the radar. there is clearly a rising threat of multiple candidates in the field. and unlike the president, the president's team, his campaign aides are clear eyed about how challenging this re-election bid will be for him. they are trying to prepare him for a long slog through a lot of the states that he won very narrowly the last time around. and one key thing to pay
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attention to here today especially is with the new gdp numbers, mixed numbers president trump is really focused on the economy. and he is worried about it. worried that a potential slowdown could harm his 2020 prospects. there is anxiety all around. i think this is a clear sign that the president's campaign is trying to refocus his attention, not just on on biden but on a wydening field where several other candidates are rising erin. >> thank you. outfront now a member of the rewekt advise i robert astorino. and joan walsh. >> rob you aren oh the advisory counsel. the president says he wins easily but obviously getting warpings from advisers and the fox news poll which disturbed him because it's his poll down 10 points in a head to head with joe biden. six to bernie sanders. well outside the margin of error in both cases. time to worry. >> and there is not anxiety in the trump campaign.
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they are doing what they are supposed to do 16 months out that is plot the strategy in every case. and they know they're going to be battle-ground states that can come down to getting out the vote. this is going to be a base vote on both sides. unquestionably. and the trump team is amassing a massive fortune in small dollar donors as well as the big stuff. so they're going to be ready, going to have everything that they need. and you know, the economy is doing well. and people gave the economy very high marks. and that's ultimately what it's coming down to as well as who the democrats put up. and right now it's scary. >> but joob o, joan they anwar him kamala harris could be a threat in michigan. >> right. >> which would translate to if this is a base election who ever the democrat is, right. but yet when you look at the national polls it could be a landslide on the popular vote. the president could still win. >> absolutely. a lot of people are afraid of that. i think the interesting thing about singling out hairness that
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way is showing they think she has the capacity to bring back the black vote which in michigan and wisconsin dipped significantly for hillary clinton. i would assume -- i'm not privy to the numbers. i think he is afraid of kamala harris. he doesn't have a nickname for her yet. he just kind of passes over her. when you saw the way she handled joe biden at the debate a lot of democrats got excited about the capacity that she might have to rattle donald trump in much the same way. >> you know, we heard him there with the sleepy joe and formerlily known as pochahontas. and bernie is done. he then continued because he did, rob he continued. >> as he does. >> here he is. >> sleepy joe is not looking too good. pochahontas -- pochahontas is gaining a little bit because we probably used the pochahontas a little bit too early. they have a new one who knocked the hell out of biden. harris hit him with a pretty
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easy question on busing. then you have a young guy buttigieg. buttigieg. . they are saying how to say his name. buttigieg. he is a beauty. >> okay. okay. that was -- that was obviously at a rally. but here is what i hear in that. let me see what i don't hear. i don't hear a slam on harris. it was kind of a compliment. a easy question dig on bidden. why isn't is he talking about harris? remember i would say the the best opening so far would be kamala harris. he complimented her back in january when she got in. and now nothing. >> she has her own problems. first of all she is doing extraordinarily poor in south carolina against bidden with black voters. and she needs black voters to come to her side and they are not right now. >> she is rising. and doing better than she was, it's still early. this is still name recognition for vice president bide. in south carolina. i covered it a lot. it can go away. >> it certainly can. i think the cnn debates next
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week for republicans perspective it's like watching the texas chain shaw massacre so fun because they'll be destroying each other and a lot of fun to watch. the problem with the democrats is when their policies like raise your hand fucht to give legal immigrants-free health care and everyone raises the hand. the policies are going to haunt them come nextier. and if the economy is doing well. people can only put up with trump's antic if they don't like them but the policies for the democrats are destroyed them. >> the policies are popular with the base and. >> their base. >> and depending on how they talk about them. popularity can spread and it is a base election. so they are doing what they need to do to excite. >> why do you think there is reticence in giving kamala harris a nickname. >> you don't think he will give him time. >> he didn't forget about her. he mentions her. she is on his mind but not willing to go there yet and that says something about him. >> look he doesn't have one for
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most of the candidates because at this point there is no need to. if she starts to rise to the point where she is going to be in the top three i'm sure he will swing hard. and when she goes at heim. >> sleepy joe and pochahontas. >> buttigieg. >> bernie was crazy but now bernie doesn't matter. >> yes. >> you mentioned the economy. 2.9% the numbers from last year. this -- for the second quarter of the yeary were down. >> 2.1 is still healthy and better than what it was two three years ago. >> he promised all the time i picked one time of many i just picked one year. we would be light on time. you say 2.1 is great. >> i said it's still healthy. >> we're at 3.3 percents gdp. i see know reason why we don't go to four, five, six%. i don't want to go beyond that i'll be criticized if we don't hit it. >> do we hear seven, eight. >> it's ridiculous. >> the economy is doing well. consumer confidence is at almost
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of an all-time high cross the board all sectors things do very, very well. >> it's slowing down. >> but if it stays the way it is now fine i've been calling out the president for saying it's doing better than it's doing. that's a fact. but 2.1% in the united states economy is a healthy number. if it stays there is there is that all he needs. >> no i don't think it's all he needs. he should have a i here approval rating with in economy. obviously his own bad behavior is hurting him. and taking away from what the economy could be doing for a normal incumbent. >> and the poll numbers are starting rise. >> he has been taking hits like nobody else has been able to. he is weelk but not wobbling. he is back up. he is at 45, 46, 47, 48 you can keep. >> not 48. >> you can hit him as hard as you want and he is resilient. >> we'll see. >> see whakts what happens with the poll losing by 10% is huge. but the national polls.
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ton, countdown to the elimination rounds. democratic candidates are preparing for must-win debates. ner must-win. the next round relief a whole lot fewer people on taj. kamala harris saying she was raised to be polite.
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but this is and this is after joe biden says he is not as polite this round. what does that mean. >> what did you mean when you said you are not going to be as polite in the next debate? we'll see. >> well, we will see next week. biden and harris will be on center stage right next to each other. the second night of debates here onn onnen cnn .outfront now keith boykin democratic strategist of pennsylvania. and ed rendle. governor, joe biden. that was the pause. he wanted to be coy there. does he need to come out swinging? he was genteel and of course last time at times that came off as maybe not being, you know, fully ready for the circum. is this totally different this time? >> yeah, i think so. i wrote a column for the hill being published monday says let it rip, joe. by that i mean not necessarily go after kamala harris or anybody else attacking him in a
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negative sense. but aggressive and affirmative and proud of the record. a happy warrior. it's like he was playing not to lose in the first debate. playing to prevent defense in football. we all know the prevent defense only prevents you from winning. he has more aggressive, proud of his record and shoot back but be strong. >> keith, you know, when he said talking about kamala harris and her medicare for all not requiring a tax increase on the middle class. he goes what is this a fantasy? is that what we see coming out slamming. >> he is going after kamala harris on the medicare for all. on her record as prosecutor. after cory beerk because of the as mayor of newark and the stop and frichk policies. he is going after anybody attacking him. and i suspect tulsi gabbard will go after kamala harris. her campaign knows knows she has a target on her back.
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it's a free for all. this is the last debate before you get the chance to get the message out there when the december ends. and december ends without another opportunity. >> kamala harris said in that back and forth that's been going on the past few days. calling her out for being a cheer leader of squad. bashar al assad. >> biden says he needs to be tougher. i wanted to play a little bit about what happened at the last debate that he was criticized for and what he said this week that shows how clearly he knows that's not okay if it happens again. here we go. >> in my -- my time is up. i'm sorry. >> i was probably overly polite. >> that happened obviously my time is up. raising his hand. it was tentative or came off that way, governor. can he change his ways and be more aggressive? to your point, it's riskier to be more aggressive. >> sure. but i think it's a risk he has to take.
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no one can stay in the lead for 14, 15 months and worry about making mistakes. mistakes are inevitable. no matter what. but you hope the mistakes are ones that can be managed. look, i disagree with keith about one thing. i don't think democrats can go after each other viciously. remember it was kamala harris who said in the first don't, america doesn't want a food fight. she said that and took a big plate of mashed potatoes with gravy and dumped it on the. >> or steak knife and fillaed him done with great prezbliegs i think democratic voters demonstrated by the soaring rise of joe biden they don't want democrats a attacking each other. they want them attacking one person. >> how do you conclude that when joe biden has been attacking people the past week. that means the public doesn't want people to attack. clearly with the party needs is a nominee. >> a big stage. >> the nominee needs to take a
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purge. donald trump is not playing polite. he is fighting hard. if you can't fight back when donald trump comes at you you are not winning. >> unlike kamala harris he wouldn't say he was raised to be polite and no shame about that. governor, let me just say, though, you know it's going to be 20 candidates over two nights, right. same format as last time. we did get moments like these. >> joe biden was right when he said it was time to pass the torch to a new generation of americans. >> do you agree today that you were wrong to oppose busing in america then. >> no. >> do you agree in. >> obviously eric swalwell dropped outs governor. >> didn't work for eric swalwell. >> he is just the first of many, right. the next debate is going to have half as many people who are competing this time, plab not even. all right. so it seems to me this is a moment where if you are not in the top group you got to throw
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the hail mary. you can't afford to just try to put the best idea out there. >> well, but the hail mary ought to be thrown against donald trump. if i was one of the 1 or 2 percenters. i'd say in answer to the question donald trump is fraud on the economy. here why boom, boom, boom. >> does that get you a breakout moment. i perceive the breakout has to be you and another person. >> does not have to be attacking a democrat. it has to be attacking donald trump in a persuasive and hard and tough aggressive way. >> i disagree. it doesn't have to be either one. the breakout moment is something that separates. >> joe biden is back to 33.15 lead. >> harris is in fourth place. >> a breakout moment. >> kamala hair sis in fourth place. >> a breakout separates you from someone else. i said from the beginning. i don't think. >> she is in fourth place. >> governor, i don't think the race is staying static. there is up and down fluctuations from now until the
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end of the campaign season. >> right but i'm saying how did the breakout moment work for harris. >> it's not over yet. i came from the naacp convention in detroit. and she was well received with bernie and biden. imprisoning i think they're all? the top tier with elizabeth warren. the other candidates are struggling to catch up with that. i don't think kamala harris is in a bad position. i'd rather be in the second or third position honestly than the first position because in the top position you get all the heat and criticism. >> it's lienl like a challenge match. >> but in the fox poll be -- in the fox poll kamala harris did not get nearly the bump everyone thought she would. she is in fourth place way behind joe biden. >> but she already got about -- you have to look at the poll averages not one poll, too. >> we will see. >> well the fox was the most recent. >> 20 candidates will take the stage. >> and we all love fox. >> the next democratic debate on cnn tuesday and wednesday. i don't need to tell you it's must see tv.
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whatever they do it's do you are do or die for a lot of them. you will see a lot of exciting moments. north korea fires off new missiles. why does president trump say it's totally fine, kim? >> they are short range mitchells and my relationship with chairman is very good. and we'll see what happens. >> short range mifrms right? breaking news a major ruling from the supreme court over the battle to fund president trump's wall. i used to book my hotel room on those travel sites but there was always a catch. like somehow you wind up getting less.
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breaking news, trump says it's okay for north korea to test missiles. here he is in the oval office moments ago. >> a short range missile. and my relationship is very good with chairman kim. and we'll see what happens. but they are short range missiles. and many people have those missiles. >> so it's okay. it's okay for kim to launch mitchells. a missile that the united states military by the way says it's is a new type of missile for north korea. trump's defense of north korea's bridge recognize comes as kim also unveiled a new submarine can launch numbering weapons. and the walgs reports that north korea may have produced 12 nuclear weapon was 12 since trump's first meeting with kim in 2018. but trump seems to be fine with it all. and frankly it's not only impossible to justify this. it's also that trump is a hypocrite when it comes to rogue regimes and missiles. he says a nuclear armed korea
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can test short range mitchells but not nuclear armed iran. trump saying iran has formally put on notice for firing a missile. should have been thankful for the terrible deal the made with them he doesn't want them testing any mifrms. why the double standard? look to comments like these after the multiple meetings with kim since 2018. >> he has a great personality. he is a -- a funny guy. he is a very smart guy. great negotiator. he loves his people. >> he wrote me beautiful letters. ner great letters. we fell in love. >> a lot of progress has been made. a lot of friendships have been made. and this has been in particular a great friendship. >> so kim is funny, smart, writes love letters. he gets to launch missiles and get 12 more nukes outfront former commanding general lieutenant general mark hertling. general, i don't want to make light. but in a sense it's shocking
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it's okay if north korea launches missiles as long as they are short ray range missiles he says. your reaction. >> it's disjointed policy, erin. let me first define a short range missile. this kn 23, the missile mr. trump is talking about has a range of 200 kilometers and 420 kilometers. let's put that in miles. that's about 120 miles to about 260 miles. you could shoot a missile from washington, d.c. to new york and hit it with precision with this kind of short range missile. it's not incongroups. most of the american forces on the korean peninsula are within that range. 28,000 u.s. troops, all of our airbuses in the range. as well as 35 miles away from the -- the north korean border is the city of seoul with the population of 10 million. >> what explains this to you? >> i have no explanation.
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to say that mr. kim is a great guy and funny guy. i bet all the people he murdered and put in prison camps think he is hilarious. it's not what i would consider. and i would tell that you the commanders on the korean peninsula are concerned about this. yes, there is a difference between long range ballistic missiles but the short range ballistic missiles which can be moved around the battlefield on telelaunchers are extremely dangerous for any commander and any group of forces. >> what explains the double standard to you? is it just that the president doesn't have a relationship with the supreme leader of iran but he does with kim so it's okay if kim does this or he gets 12 more nuke as the journal reported he has since trump started getting love letters but iran can't. >> i can't account for it but if mr. mr. kim approached the president with the same deal that iran made in 2015 that trump would jump at it. yet her to up the same deal that was limiting nuclear weapons in
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iran that was an attempt to go further in terms -- with coordination with that country. like i said it's disjointed. it's one set of conditions for one country, another for another, both threatening the area the region they live in. >> general hertling thank you so much. >> you're welcome. >> and next breaking news, supreme court just ruling whether president trump can use billions of dollars from the pentagon budget to build the wall. and jeanne moos on how 2020 is turning into a battle of the ages. >> i am a young vibrant man. >> if he looks young and vibrant compared to me, i should probably go home. and...whatever this was. because we make our meat with the good of the deli and no artificial preservatives. make every sandwich count with oscar mayer deli fresh. you eat right... mostly. you make time... when you can.
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undocumented immigrants brought to the u.s.'s children known as dreamers and funding for before border wall construction, close private for immigration detention centers and reform the immigration court system. castro and o'rourke clashed over a section of the law that makes it a crime to enter the u.s. illegally. castro wants to repeal the law making illegal entry a simple civil violation. >> they are using section 1325 of that act which criminalizes coming across the border to incarcerate the parents and separate them. some of us have called to end that section, to terminate it. some like congressman o'rourke have not. >> i want to introduce legislation to ensure we don't criminalize those seeking asylum and refuge. if you're fleeing -- over the last year shaped the rhetoric of most democrats. elizabeth warren is like most of the candidates calling for families not to be detained while their immigration cases are being processed.
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here is gjeanne moos. >> the last time donald trump look in a mirror and saw a truly younger man was when jimmy fallon played his mirror image. how old is too old to be president. >> i just feel like a young man. i'm so young. i'm a young vibrant man. i look at joe, i don't know about him. i don't know. >> those comments left 76-year-old joe biden momentarily speechless. when he was asked about them on "the view". >> if he looks young and vibrant compared to me, i should probably go home. >> mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the most vibrant 70 something candidate of them all? the battle of the elders spilled on twitter in the form of side by side comparisons and challenges. show me trump doing this, i'll wait. the president's description of himself as a young vibrant man inspired blow back, a vibrant
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imagination and so young practically i'm the youngest person in the history of people. as for president trump's nickname for biden. >> i refer to him as sleepy joe. >> that's the opposite of what he usually hears. >> the other end, hyper joe. >> these two were hyper active before biden officially announced. >> i wish you were in high school, i could take him behind the gym. >> he said i'd like to take him behind the gym. i'd love that. >> fighting like two gumrumpy o men. >> i'm not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> even young mondale tracked up, the issue of age never gets old. >> i am a young vibrant man. >> a young vibrant ham. there. someone fixed it.
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jeanne moos, cnn. >> you need tremendous stamina. >> new york. >> and thanks so much for joining us. have a good weekend. you can watch "outfront" any time. anderson starts now. good evening. we begin tonight with breaking news on president trump's signature issue the border wall with mexico. he's using money from the pentagon to build it in the supreme court in a 5-4 vote gave him the green light at least while a lower court challenged it. pamela brown joins us with reaction from the white house. i imagine the president has to be happy with the rule. >> he immediately hailed it as a big win for him. this is what he tweeted not long ago saying wow, big victory on the wall, the united states supreme court overturns lower court injunction allow southern border wall to proceed. big one for border security and the rule of law. this is a significant