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we're live in the cnn numerous. i'm ana cabrera in new york. the president of the united states for some reason decided today to focus on a major american city to insult, denigrate and disparj. he took to twitter of course. and started in on the city of baltimore. calling it filthy and dangerous, running down the entire southern district of maryland and the long serving congressman representing it. this from the president today in to a tirade against elijah cummings, ripping his district as quota disgustinged rat and rodent infested mess. if he spent more time in baltimore he writes maybe he
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could help clean up the dangerous and filthy place. the president went on to say no human being would want to live there. congressman cummings in response writing directly to the president. i go home to the district daily. i go and fight for my neighbors. it's my constitutional duty to conduct oversight of the executive branch, but my moral duty to fight for my constituents. people who know cummings, people who hail from and love the city of baltimore rallying in support today. speaker of the house nancy pelosi tweeted this. representative cummings is a champion in the congress and the country for civil rights and economic justice. a beloved leader in baltimore and deeply valued colleague. we all reject racist attacks against him and support miss steadfast leadership. we go to the white house and boris sanchez. boris any clue from the white house since this morning as to why the president chose to insult the city of baltimore with such venom? >> well, ana it appears to be a
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combination of things. the president apparently unhappy over the way representative cummings grilled dhs officials over the issue of immigration during congressional testimony earlier this week. and we should point out in the hour before the president sent out the tweets there was a segment on fox news about west baltimore in which a fox news commentator questioned conditions in congressman cumming's district comparing them unfavorable to conditions at the southern border. aside from questions about race baiting or decor up we have to point out the president's tweets are misinformed. the district cummings represents is one of the most well jated appear afloupt, predominantly african-american districts in the country. here is how the mayor feels about the attacks. >> everybody in the southern district would be insulted including me. you go through the seventh congressional district see all the development we have done and still working to rebuild some of
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the areas that need to help most. for him to say that was an insult to me as a resident who lived in the seventh congressional district. it was a total insult. >> some people said -- >> we're not going to ignore anyone degrading our city and its elected leadership. no one. >> i don't consider it -- fueling the fire. i look at it as defending baltimore city, the city where i live. >> president trump as we have come to expect at this point digging in further. he sent this tweet out not long ago. the president wright writing quote elijah cummings spends all his time trying to hurt innocent people through oversight doing nothing for the poor, dangerous and badly run district. take a look. then he hashtags blacks for trump 2020. the president in campaign mode there. he may need help trying to court
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the african-american vote. he only got 78% in 2016. >> boris sanchez at the white house. many people calling baltimore home are understandably smocked and appalled at the choice of wards, to describe the major american city. one of the people is my colleague here at cnn. victor blackwell. i could never tell you how wrong the attack is as well as victor did today. >> this morning the president attacked another member of congress on twitter. this time it's house oversight committee chairman elijah cummings. he wrote this. cummings' district is a disgusting rat and rodent infested mess. if he spent more time in baltimore maybe he could help clean up the dangerous and filthy place. no human being would want to live there. infested. that's usually reserved for references to rodents and insects. but we have seen the president
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invoke infessation to criticize lawmakers before. you see a pattern here? just two weeks ago president trump attacked four minority congresswoman, why don't they go back to the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. reminder, three were born here, all american. infested he says. a week before his inauguration, january 2017, congressman john lewis spent more time fixing and helping his district which is in horrible shape and falling apart not to mention crime infested. donald trump has tweeted more than 43,000 times. he mass insulted thousands of people many different types of people. but when he tweets about infestation it's about black and brown people. september 2014 at the height of an urgent health emergency, why are we sending thousands of ill trained soldiers into ebola infested areas of africa. bring the playing to the u.s.?
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obama is so stupid. infested he says. there is a revolution going on in yab so many anting sanctuary areas want out of this ridiculous crime infested and breeding concept. infested he says. the president says about congressman cummings' district. that no human would want to live there. you know who did, mr. president. i tlifd from the day i left to the hospital and until i left for college. there are challenges no doubt but people are proud of their community. i don't want to sound self-righteous. but people get up and go to work there. they care for their families there. they love their children who pledge allegiance to the flag, just like people who live in
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districts of congressman who support you, sir. they are americans too. we'll be right back. >> nick mosby is a democratic maryland district. his district covers parts of baltimore and he is a former city councilman there. the white house sits less than 50 miles from the baltimore office. if president trump came to the district, what would he see? >> well, i mean, i think it's really interesting, again, president not knowing anything he is talking about, the seventh district constituents -- constitutes more than just the part of west baltimore he is trying to reference. it's one of the wealthest areas in the country. and most educated areas of the country in certain parts. and congressman cummings has done an amazing job. if president trump ever decided to step foot in any part of west baltimore he would see hard working americans who wake up every single day, who try to
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prepare kids to become the best americans, who go to work, who own small businesses, who are the bedrock of what we see in communities all throughout this country. and for him to try to disparj and insul overwhelmingly majority part of the state of maryland and city of baltimore is completely unacceptable. and that's why i think you saw many folks in baltimore city speak out against president trump earlier today. >> speaker pelosi calls the president's comments racist. what would you call them? >> racist. i mean, i think that since he has taken office either he has teetered the line of being racist or he has been racist. you look in the past two weeks, he told women of congress, colored women of congress to go back to where they are from if they didn't want to be here. he is constantly doubled down on policy that strips away family members in our immigrant population. and today to call out a major
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american city -- i mean the birthplace of the star spangled banner with the derogatory terms and type of hatred out of the oval office is unacceptable. >> the top republican in your state, governor larry hogan condemned the tweets against the congresswoman of color this month. he called them terrible. we've not been able to reach hogan today for comment. have you heard anything from any of your republican members there in maryland criticizing the latest comments? >> i have not. but i think that this is a true opportunity for folks to collectively come together and put partisanship aside and say what's right is right and wrong is wrong. and for a person who has taken the oath of protecting and serving americans, who are supposed to be moving our country in a new direction as he continues to tout, to have hatred and to have a derogatory terms in the way he has used them, it's completely
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unconscionable. so i know there have been folks in the state of maryland that have asked our governor to denounce this. but this is an opportunity to collectively come together and say this is unacceptable. i mean the world is watching. >> are you surprised the governor hasn't just spoken out on this yet. >> i'm surprised everyone hasn't spoken out yet about this. as soon as you hear the words coming out of his mouth of comparing a major american city, talking about rats, rodents and infestation, talking about folks need to leave the city. and no one should be there. and all the hatred he spilled out in twitter like he normally does, i'm surprised that just at a quick glance any third grader reading that would know that's inappropriate for somebody supposed to be sitting in the title of leader. >> i want to share something that former president obama tweeted out today, praising nearly 150 african-americans who served in his administration. he had recently written an opinion piece yesterday slamming president trump's call for the
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four congresswoman to go back. and here is what the obama veterans wrote. in part we have heard this before black and brown people in america don't hear the chants in a vacuum. for many much us we felt the full force shouted in our faces, whispered behind our backs. scrawled across lockers or hurled at us online. now, president obama said he was proud of his alums for standing up to president trump. but mr. obama has not directly challenged president trump about either case. should he? >> i think it's very concerning. i mean, look, we are sitting here in an interesting time of america. where we all need to take a step back. i mean, the level of divisive rhetoric coming out on the division, the increase of hate crimes all throughout different sectors of america, this is very troubling times. and we need a leader. we need a president who is going to bring us together, who is going to talk about moving and
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pushing us forward. we he said those derogatory terms about the city of baltimore, he was talking about black and brown people intentionally talking about them. and comparing them to living with rats and rodents. it's just unacceptable. we need leadership and unfortunately our president has not shown that since day one of taking office. >> nick, i really appreciate you taking the time thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up ready to rumble as we count down to the cnn debates we take you behind the scenes to see what it takes to stand out and gain ground in ha crowded 2020 field. plus massive manhunt right now for two teenagers suspected of killing three people in canada. why investigators say good samaritans may have inadvertently helped them get away. and the strip under siege. what's behind a massive swarm of grass hoppers in las vegas?
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we're just three nights away now from the first of two cnn democratic presidential debates. and the candidates will now doubt spend time this week practicing and preparing for what could be a make or break showdown for some of them at least. cnn chief political analyst gloria borger shows us when it comes to the the debates preparation is everything. >> at his kickoff rally california congressman eric swalwell was center stage. but at the first primary debate he was nearly off the stage. >> walking out is -- that is really intimidating. you are just pointing to people. i don't know if you know you or not. pointing, waving. you feel completely vulnerable and everyone looking at you. >> that debate would be his last. >> today ends our presidential campaign. >> our polling stayed flat. it didn't -- that didn't go anywhere. >> remaining at less than 1%.
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and as the field lines up for the two cnn debates, the pressure is really on, because in the fall securing podium spots will be twice as hard. so detroit could be the end of the trail. >> maybe 12, 13 of the candidates, there is not another shot after this. to some extent not qualifying for the next debate is a death sentence. >> there is a lot of ways to screw up a debate. what is essential is to think about what can i do so that there won't be a total disaster here. >> mccain attack phrases, bradley attack phrases. >> stewart stephens has prepped republican conditions from george w. bush and dig cheney to mitt romney. >> ideally you look at polling and say who do i need to talk to. you never make an ad that says i don't know i'm not sure who it applies to it's like shooting a shotgun in the air and hope ducks fly buy. >> what drives the debate is frick unshun, taking someone on.
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>> as kamala harris did attacking joe biden's record on bussing. >> there was a little girl in california who was part of the second class to integrate her public schools. and she was busted to school every day. and that little girl was me. >> she has won once she says that because she defined herself and got her bioin. you like that person and you're pulling for that person. >> it didn't seem contrived. >> it's a difference between prepared and constrived. i think prepared is you thought about it. she is comfortable talking about race. and it shows. >> biden was uncomfortable being challenged in that way and that showed to a. >> you're president of the united states or vice president you walk in the room and people usually applaud. and you're not used to having somebody get in your face. >> if you were advising joe biden right now, what would you tell him to do? >> be on offense. >> offense. >> be on offense. you are there to win votes. you are not there to defend your
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lead. >> that's fine if you are biden. or if you are elizabeth warren and bernie sanders fighting over many of the same voters. but if you're not a name brand candidate, breaking out can be hard to do. >> the other alternative are acceptable it's always the question like why are you on the shelf? i mean do we really need eight vargss of barbecue potato chips? when you're speaking you just like feel the glare of the moderators looking at you like you're not a top tier personen. >> what are you doing here. >> yeah, yeah you can just feel that. >> you had like five minutes. >> 4 minutes 45 seconds. >> but who is counting who is count sfwloog yeah. >> what can you do, really, in that amount of time. >> have a moment that gets replayed. >> we're going to solve the issues of climate chaos. pass the torch. if we are sochlg student loan debt, pass the torch. ending gun violence for families fearful of sending kids to school pass the torch. >> do you think you got a little
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too torchy there. >> again, i -- i thought, all of these issues, someone who has worked on you know gun violence and student loan debt many of them generational. >> did it look a little contrived, too many torches. >> maybe i could have done one fewer torch. >> in the debates, preparation can be everything. >> you can't do it for five minutes here or there. they get no life line. it's them, the camera, the audience. >> no phone a friend. >> no phone a friend. and they are sinking or swimming. that's where this is an important test in the process. >> after all the studying and all the rehearsals how does it feel back stage when your candidate goes off script. >> it's a very special feeling when you are standing -- you are standing there watching the television and you're thinking, what are they doing? that is not what we said. right? on the other hand, i will say as a campaign manager, there is no way for you to know what it is like. >> public failure is never easy.
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but with 20 candidates it's more than likely. >> you have to be willing first of all to admit that you are probably going to lose. and be willing to lose and stand you can try too hard running for president. and it will always come back and bite you. >> so it's a fine line for every candidate on stage. and the press don't look like you try too hard. you know, ana, just be yourself. >> jing us now democratic strategist and debate coach bob barn et worked on 10 national presidential campaigns and advised more prominent politicians i have time to name. but he worked with both hillary clinton and barack obama in 2008. bob, good to have you with us. i'm curious, who were you representing the night of january 5th 2008. >> do you remember. >> january 5th, 2008? i think we were in the middle of the prep for the primary debates. >> yes, it was between clinton and obama with that debate. >> that night i was with
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hillary. with hillary all through the primaries and then after hillary dropped out i helped president obama -- then senator soon president obama with his general election debates. >> here is why i ask on that date specifically. because we saw one of the most famous or infamous skirmishes of the 2008 presidential campaign that night. let's listen. >> what can you say to the voters of new hampshire on this stage tonight who see a resume and like it but hesitating on the likability issue. where they seem to like barack obama more. >> well that hurts my feelings. >> i'm sorry, senator. i'm sorry. >> but i'll try to go on. >> he is very likeable. i agree with that. i don't think i'm that bad. >> you're likable enough. >> thank you so much.
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>> likable enough. obama actually -- he took heat for that you remember that. >> i remember it well. i remember it well. her answer to the let us say difficult question, i thought was very good. and he -- he had the comeback. but some of it he got some criticism for. you have to be careful. >> exactly. as a coach what kind of tone do you advise candidates to strive for? >> it depends on the candidate, depends on the circumstance, depends on the place you are in the election cycle. right now we're going to see some interesting matchups. i think we are seeing an interesting matchup on tuesday with elizabeth warren and bernie sanders. i think we are going to see an interesting matchup on wednesday with cory booker and joe biden and kamala harris. i think that it will also be fascinating to see what the column lesser knowns do because this could be the ninth inning for many of them. each one, as theywork with advisers will have to define
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what's in their best interests, tonewise and strategicwise. >> how do you expect this set of debates to differ from the first round? in both debates we have as many candidates candidates as we have this time around 10 on the first night 10 the second night. round two of just that. >> i guess i would make a couple of points. first, with respect, as i mentioned to some of the lesser knowns, it's the ninth inning. and with the criteria increasing for the next set of debates in september, what do i mean by that? you have to be 2% in four polls. and you have to have a lot more individual voters in those 20 states. so for a lot of the people, six, eight, maybe even 10 of them this is the last chance because the criteria will be far more difficult to achieve. with respect to the front runners, i think it's going to be interesting to see what each of them decides with respect to what's the most advantageous strategy for them. let me give you some examples.
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with respect to warren and sanders, i think that it's fair to say that elizabeth warren has had a steady increase in her numbers, and i think it's fair to say that she was seen as having a very good night on the first night of last month haste debates. and i think it's fair to say o probably coming at the expense of senator sanders. so i think her strategy will probably be to keep on keeping on, as they say. with respect to senator sanders, however, he's got to make a difficult decision. does he go after her trying to stop the hemorrhaging? that is conceivably a mistake? why? i hate to say because the dynamics of the debates is such that often a man going after a woman doesn't sell well. but also elizabeth warren is really good. and he will have met his match if he goes too aggressively against her. because she will answer in kind if not better.
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so the dynamic will be very interesting on that night. >> we heard that joe biden is going to have an aggressive stance in this debate compared to his first one. do you think that will work in his favor? >> well, i'd say first that a lot of the pre-debate spin, if you will about people and what they're going to do is often setups. i don't buy into that too much. it depends who the source it, whether they are really somebody in the campaign, whether they really know what the strategy is. i kind of discount a lot of that spin. i know that the -- the cable networks love to talk about it. and sometimes. >> let me ask you a follow-up what would be your advise to vice president biden as the front runner. >> i think he should do a couple of things. first to the extent he can talk about the future rather than the past, that's a good thing. if he has to talk about the past, i think it's better to talk about the recent past meaning the obama years nan the senate years, for obvious reasons. i think what they should do
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finally is take it to president trump more than to his opponents if he can. so i would see him as best served by talking about the future, looking forward, taking an approach that's -- that's forward oriented. and i think if he does that he is probably in god shape. now, that said, if someone comes after him, he's got to be ready, got to be sharp, answer, be aggressive. and i'm sure since he has one of the best prep teams there is, particularly in ron klain and anita dun i'm sure he will be ready. >> i'm told we don't have much time. but let me ask if you you are a lesser known polling at 1%. you talked about this being crucial for them. what's the quick advice for them. >> i think that desperation is a bad thing. to the extent you try to score points on somebody or say something that's going to go viral, you are probably not going to succeed.
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i think, sadly for a lot of the people it's probably over tuesday and wednesday night. so what they should do is leave -- maybe not leave in the best way they can with the most dignity they can. if they haven't introduced themselves do so. if they have a point to make why they are the best choice, do so. and remember, a lot of the lesser knowns are running for vice president. hate to tell you, but that's in their minds too. >> interesting. bob barn et, i look forward to continuing the debate conversations as we -- we weave our way through the democratic nominating process. thank you so much for being here. be sure to watch this coming tuesday and wednesday night, cnn democratic presidential debates, 10 candidates each night starting at 8:00 p.m. eastern only on cnn. we'll be right back. rawberries. at their reddest, ripest, they make everything better. like our strawberry poppyseed salad and new strawberry summer caprese salad. strawberry season is here. panera. food as it should be.
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some good news david ortiz, red sox legend released from a boston hospital, after more than a month after he is shot in the back in the dminging republic. surveillance cameras captured the moment he was shot as he sat at a crowded patio bar. police arrested a handful of people in the case. saying they are searching for others. norts say ortiz was not the intended target. an update on his condition is expected early next week. turning to canada where a massive manhunt for two teens suspected of killing three people is continuing. police now going door to door in rural north man tobia after the they were spotted there. they may have changed their appearance. police thought they were missing after the car was found burning
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on the side of the highway in british columbia. but they are now the prime suspects in three murders and should be considered armed and dangerous. correspondent paulo sandoval is following this for us. where does the manhunt stand. >> put yourself in the position of the some of the residents of in area for a second. they have been dealing with this several days now. witnessing police now essentially going door to door in the search for the two gunman, speaking to the deputy mayor of the small community, they say many residents are living in fear. but also struggling with a really high level of uncertainty, not knowing whether or not the two suspected killers are still in their community. so what investigators are doing, releasing the surveillance video we are told was shot on sunday at a business in meadow lake saskatchewan. but it really gives people a clearer view of the two men believed to be killed three people in british columbia.
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then you also have the elements that these two could potentially be exposed to in and around the manitoba area. you a hear from one resident, mother nature can be unforgiving especially if you don't have training or equipment to survive. >> it's nasty. i worked out there. i did some diamond drilling there 25, 30 years ago. if the bears don't get them the bugs will. they'll be wet and cold now. probably a bit desperate if they are still alive. >> and as police continue, the door to door search, this weekend they also say that they are looking into the possibility that a resident in and around the gillam area may have unknowingly assisted two in some way shape or form. investigators not going beyond that. but that's one reason why they are showing the video, hoping someone somewhere may be able to provide the crucial information ana that will lead them to the two individuals. >> okay, paulo sandoval. thank you very much. i want to show you dramatic video taken off the southern coast of california.
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some have argued that because director mueller was reluctant to testify and seemed older than some remembered him his work is somehow diminished. it is not. >> that is how house judiciary chairman jerry nadler defending robert mueller's testimony before congress this week. as further proof the united states was attacked and remains under siege by a foreign power meddling in the u.s. election. for president trump his main take away was quite a bit different. >> i watched mueller. for two and a half years we watched this. and that's the best they have. and it's a disgrace. and the world is laughing at them. and unfortunately it's so bad for our country -- it's bad in our relationships with other countries, including russia. >> joining us now, cnn
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counterterrorism analysts phil mudd mo worked under robert mueller at the fbi. phil, the president says it's robert mueller's report that's hurting our relationship with other countries. specifically russia. to that you say what? >> pretty simple answer to that if you talk to the europeans they suffered the same threats to their electoral processes and sometimes systems we have. it's not just america and the president who is trying to defend his legacy when he lost the popular vote a few years ago. it's not just america under threat. it's countries in europe, our allies who have been our allies since world war ii and before that are under threat. i think the question is if you want america first you have to sit is there and say how do we acknowledge we have a threat in the country so we can express american leadership overseas and talk to alis overseas and say we are with you in acknowledging how vladimir putin is a problem. let's work collectively to determine how we defend it. it's not just us ana, everybody is facing a threat. >> and it's not just russia
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necessarily that's also threatening america as we heard this week from leaders in the intelligence committee. it's china, iran that are also picking up sort of where russia left off. but i want to replay what mueller said about russian election interference. let's listen. >> i hope this is not the new normal, but i fear it is. >> did you find evidence to suggest they will try to do this again. >> it wasn't a single attempt. they're doing it as we sit here and expect to do it during the next campaign. >> doing it as we sit here. going into the next campaign. and now thanks to a brand-new report from the signal intelligence committee we now know that the russians likely targeted election systems in all 50 sfats between 2014 and 2017. that's far more than previously disclosed. what worries you the most when you think of what russia may have in store for 2020. >> i think people view it too much as a national problem. the united states is under threat without looking at this through a lens local. let me give you a simple
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scenario. you're in a district across america. the congress person opposed sanctions in favor of you name the country, iran, china, north korea, russia. as we moved down the road, ana, we talked about interference in the last eek. this is getting so sophisticated that a foreign adversary in this case the russians might say the key congressman or congresswoman we are worried is in california, new york. our program of interference is going to be so sophisticated that we're going to target 200,000 voters somewhere and that those vetters are not even going to know it. i still think we haven't acknowledged the extent of what the problem looks like tomorrow. it's not just about america. it's about individual districts that i think are going to be attacked. >> that's an interesting thought. you are right. who is talking about that that? you are now. you are planting that -- something for all of us to think about. given your work relationship with robert mueller previously, i do want to ask you about this criticism that mueller didn't have command of his own material
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because of moments like this. >> is it accurate to say your investigation found no evidence that members of the trump campaign were involved in the theft or publication of the clinton campaign-related emails. >> i don't know the -- i don't know. well did dsh. >> on july 22nd, through wikileaks, thousands of these emails that were -- that were stolen which the russian government appeared, correct, that's on page 6 of the report? this is the wikileaks post-ing of emails. >> i can't find it quickly. but i -- please continue. >> phil, you, again worked with mueller. what did you see there? >> let me be really clear on a saturday evening. look, the report has two basic components. american citizens involved in the campaign were willing potentially to accept information about an adversary, hillary clinton.
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from a foreign -- from a foreign government, inappropriate. american citizens including the president tried to obstruct a campaign. the report says that. let's take that aside. robert mueller is the best i ever saw. i did 25 years. he was decorated in vietnam. let's forget that. he was nominated by republicans and a exact, president obama. let's forget that. i saw integrity. i saw humor. i saw kindness. i saw courtesy. i saw it in more than 2000 meetings. i'm going to tell washington, d.c., there are 50 states but people in this town are obsessed with this. the man is an american hero. i never, never saw anybody better. let him go. he was the best ever, ana. and this just pains me. he was the best. he issued a report that's clear. read the report. let the hero go. i love that man. >> i hear you. i hear you, phil. but what we just saw, did you
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see something different than the critics? >> i'm not going to take the question, read the report. and i realize americans won't. that's their problem. the report may have hundreds and hundreds of pages. but it's not subtle. we have an adversary that interfered with the elections. the kraib, fbi, national security agency, homeland security department talked about it. the president refusing to accept that. we have interference in elections. and people in that electoral process from one campaign chose to accept information from that campaign. unacceptable. we have instance after instance laid out in black and white where people in the campaign including the president said why don't we attempt to remove a special council because we don't like the investigation. we call that obstruction. if we want to have a conversation about how american hero may be didn't bring an a plus game after 50 years of service, count me out, ana. i'm not playing. i'm done. >> let me ask you, then, about
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something that we saw on the atlantic this week. >> yeah. >> this theory the negative reaction to mueller's testimony is maybe proof that we have all internalized trump's own reality show standards for what counts as significant political development. and i'm quoting here. all the world is trashy television. and the president in his opposition are merely producers. after three seasons russia gate got old on the critics got bored with it. is the big are worry that trump doesn't seem to care or that the public is not demanding action, because they've within conditioned to expect a certain level of entertainment in trump's america. >> i think it's the latter. look, the president has his own personality issues in terms of how he accepts negative criticism. if you look at presidents during my now too lengthy life. presidents. honorable. ronald reagan george w. bush senior. president obama very honorable. president carter who may not have been perfect president but maybe the best ex-president in american history. if you laid out this document during their administrations, if
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you had said their administration was involved in accepting that kind of administration, if you had said that president in the past was involved in trying to obstruct a federal would have sat back and said, is this a sunday morning cartoon or is this reality? i think the issue is americans are so divided that when they see information about somebody they support, whether it's hillary clinton or whether it's donald trump, they refuse to accept a fact. that's not healthy. and i don't think republicans and democrats would have accepted it earlier. >> phil mudd, good to have you with us. thank you, sir. we'll be right back. [ refer] [ cheering ] when you need the fuel to be your nephew's number one fan. holiday inn express. we're there. so you can be too. at t-mobile, for $40/line for four lines, it's all included for the whole family. like unlimited with netflix on us. and now with each new line, get one of our latest smartphones included. $40/line for four lines and smartphones are included for the whole family.
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