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you're not going to make a dent in the numbers of those that this president is dying to throw out of our country. but it is a huge blow to who we are. remember these words, my brothers and sisters. it's not just a poem. give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free. the wretched masses of your teeming shore. send these the homeless tempest-tost, to me, i lift my lamp beside the golden door. we were built by those who were cast off and ran away. those with nowhere else to go and often no one wanted them. it is personal to me. it should be to you as well. these are not just words. they're a promise. but listen to what this administration wants that promise to be. >> the statue of liberty is a symbol of liberty enlightening the world. a symbol of american liberty lighting the world. the poem you're referring to was added later is not a part of original statue of liberty. >> what the hell is he talking
about? stephen miller. emma lazarus wrote the poem in 1883 to help raise money for the pedestal that the statue was on. it happened three years before the statue went up. look, nobody is accusing them of having a great grasp of the facts. but the bigger problem with this policy is that it's proof that they don't know where the heart of this country lies. and that is the question for this election. what do you want your country to be about? the decision is yours. thank you for watching. "cnn tonight" with d-lemon the chicken king starts now. >> my friend just called me -- my oldest friend from -- i've known her since nursery school. she said don, it's great, it's crispy chicken. the bun is to die for. it's like something your grandmother cooked and you sit in the back yard and eat. i can't wait. >> she said don't believe the hype. it's a scarcity play. right? >> she got a sandwich though. >> just enough to make everybody want them. >> let's talk about what you just said. your closing statement.
>> yes, sir. >> and we've discussed this before. i know when my ancestors came over they had nothing. there was no education. there was no nothing. you know, oh, they can't contribute to society with money or whatever. but that's really not what the immigration system in this country should be about. obviously mine is different. it's slaves. not immigrants. but you, did your family have money when they came over? >> please. >> were they the healthiest people? were they the -- were they rich and had education? >> they were people with nowhere else to go. they ran way from poor places. they came here with nothing except everything that was in their head and their heart that was desperate for a chance. and they did all the stupid jobs and they did everything that they could, and they were desperate and it was hardship, just all stories that jacob reese catalogued that people have in their families. you know, the annals of their families' histories all across this country. and it is personal to me. if this president had his way, people like me wont be here. and i know that's going to get a
good guffaw from a lot of people in his base. but this us and them stuff is toxic. >> yeah, but the people in his base that it's going to get a guff faa from, same thing. i don't know -- very few people came over in the nina, the pinta and the santa maria who were wealthy people and upper crust. most of the people who came to this country are immigrants who came from nothing, who were escaping harsh circumstances, who were like the people who are coming over on the southern border. and maybe even more desperate at the time. and certainly if people could do background checks then, think those people would have been allowed to get into this country? >> my father once wrote, "we were made into most by those who had the least." and now this president's saying why can't we have more people from norway? and we all -- i have no problem with norway. it's a beautiful place, beautiful people. we know what he's getting at.
it's what this election is about. it's not about law and order. it's how you enforce the law and what you consider the proper order. it's definitional and i hope people get it. it's not about which form of 15 different medicare for all plans you can figure out. it's about who we are and what you're willing to fight for. >> yeah. listen, you know my norwegian neighbors. i don't know if we want more of those guys over here. i'm kidding, bernt. i'm joking. i'll hear about that. >> it ain't on my account. i'm a big fan. >> they're amazing people. thanks, chris. i'll see you soon. >> i don't know you. i don't know you and i don't want your sandwich. >> no chicken for you. you don't get the big piece of chicken. you get no chicken. >> you're going to get burnt this weekend. >> i know, bernt's going to get me. >> talk to you later. >> see you later. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. and the master of spin. at it again. rewriting history. otherwise known as distracting and deflecting. president tweeting today the
g7 was a great success for this country. it wasn't. not at all. and we're only learning now just how bad things got behind closed doors. president arguing fiercely with this country's allies during a dinner saturday night. okay? go along with me. what was he arguing about? vladimir putin of course. putin, who was kicked out of the then g8 when he illegally seized crimea. who he still holds. still holds to this day. who actively interfered in our elections in 2016 and 2018 and who is plotting to do it again in 2020. that vladimir putin. yep. vladimir putin. that guy. the president of the united states insisting putin should be welcomed back into the group. even though russia has done absolutely nothing to deserve it. that according to two diplomatic officials and a senior u.s. official who tells cnn things got especially heated when angela merkel, boris johnson,
and justin trudeau insisted that as long as russia still holds crimea readmitting putin is a non-starter. those sources say the president took every opportunity to try to make the case for putin, even interrupting discussions about fires in the amazon and about iran to insist that russia should be part of the conversation. they say the president got more and more combative as the dinner wore on. but of course, he wasn't taking putin's side behind closed doors. he did in front of live cameras too. >> a lot of people say having russia, which is a power, having them inside the room is better than having them outside the room. by the way, there were numerous people during the g7 that felt that way. and we didn't take a vote or anything but we did discuss it. my inclination is to say yes, they should be in. >> well, of course that's his inclination. that is, after all the president who seemingly never met a strong
man that he didn't like. who admires brute strength above just about anything. who praised kim jong un, the leader who starved his own people, executed his family members and is responsible for the brutal death of american student otto warmbier. the president claiming the first lady shares his high opinion of kim. even though she's never met him. >> i also say that by the way, with respect to north korea. kim jong un, who i have gotten to know extremely well. the first lady has gotten to know kim jong un and i think she would agree with me. he is a man with a country that has tremendous potential. >> she's never met him. this is a president who's defended the crown prince of saudi arabia, the man behind the vicious murder of "washington post" journalist jamal khashoggi. and now he's trying to reward
vladimir putin by bringing him back into the g7. by the way, the president's description of those discussions at g7 is, surprise, not entirely truthful. it's a stretch to say that numerous leaders agreed with him. in fact, the president was outnumbered. and he knew it. one official saying that he would have pushed for a vote on russia by current members if he thought he could win. though it's interesting that one leader who did agree with the president was the outgoing italian prime minister giuseppe conte, who not at all coincidentally the president praised in a tweeted of course, saying he works well with the usa. seems he works well with the president anyway. but there's more. you would think of all people the president of the united states would be on the side of the democracy no matter what. well, that was apparently not the case at the g7. "washington post" reporting the
leaders' heated conversation turned to what should be a pretty basic question, should the assembled world leaders give any special weight to being a democracy? okay? well, of course they should. right? most of those leaders said yes. and you'd expect them to say yes. but president trump said no. no to democracy. when the other leaders in the room pushed back when they refused to go along with his demand to readmit putin, he angrily crossed his arms and became even more combative. of course none of this should come as a surprise to anyone. this president stood next to vladimir putin in helsinki and took his word on russia's election interference over this country's own intelligence community. >> my people came to me, dan coats came to me and some
others, they said they think it's russia. i have president putin, he just said it's not russia. i will say this, i don't see any reason why it would be. >> the president joked with putin about his election interference. >> will you tell russia not to interfere in the 2020 elections? >> of course i will. don't meddle in the election. >> he's deferred to putin. from the early days of o his campaign. >> putin is a nicer person than i am. >> i think putin's been a very strong leader for russia. >> a very smart cookie. much smarter, much more cunning than our president. >> wouldn't it be nice if we actually got along as an example with russia? i'm all for it. >> if he says great things about me i'll say great things about him. i've already said he is very much of a leader. >> putin's a killer. >> we've got a lot of killers. you think our country's so innocent? >> putin's the leader of russia. russia's a strong country. >> donald trump is a friend of putin. well, actually putin did call me a genius and he said i'm the future of the republican party.
>> putin's fine. he's fine. we're all fine. we're people. >> so the big question is, come on, think about this. why? why does a president of the united states consistently defer to vladimir putin? a big clue. here. >> did you want president trump to win the election? did you direct any of your officials to help him do that? >> yes, i did. yes, i did. because he talked about bringing the u.s.-russia relationship back to normal. >> the fact is the president could invite him to the summit which he is hoping could be held at his own golf resort in florida as a special guest. and it sounds like he would. >> as the g7 host next year you're allowed to invite other
countries to come, guest countries, even though they're not necessarily part of the overall group. would you consider inviting vladimir putin under those circumstances? >> well, i don't know that he'd accept. those are tough circumstances. he was a part of g8 and all ofa sudden he's not out -- or he's not in. so i think, john, that's a pretty tough thing for him. he's a proud person. would i invite him? i would certainly invite him. >> what do you expect when it comes to the president's favorite strong man? this whole strong man routine could backfire on the president when it comes to iran. the president taking a carrot and stick approach at the g7. >> if the circumstances were correct or right i would certainly agree to that. they can't do what they say they're going to do because if they do they will be met with violent force. >> iran's president firing back with an insult.
>> translator: if you lift all these sanctions and if you bow your head to the nation of iran, well, then the situation would be different. >> well, we know that is never going to happen. that's not going to make this president happy. let's face it. he's only truly happy when he is talking about one thing. real estate. his own real estate. so is it any surprise the president's own attorney general is planning a big holiday bash at, wait for it, the trump international hotel? just minutes away from the white house. "washington post" reports that william barr's party could cost more than $30,000. a justice department official telling cnn the party is not an official event and will be paid out of barr's pocket. he sure knows his audience. doesn't he? his audience of one. we have all this chaos going on.
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united states renting space at the president's property. president trump's washington, d.c. hotel this upcoming holiday season for a party. and spending thousands of dollars in the process. let's discuss now. with nia-malika henderson and ryan lizza. hello to both of you. listen, it's true the optics are terrible. just think about it. he's the attorney general of the united states. considering what this president has gone through and now he's planning, reportedly planning to have a holiday party there. this is what the "washington post" is reporting, ryan, the attorney general booked trumps hotel for a 200-person holiday party likely to deliver $30,000 in revenue. is this bill barr's christmas present to president trump? >> look, the amount of money isn't obviously massive. but it's a way of showing loyalty to the president. right? and it's a way of sort of sticking his thumb in the eye of anyone outside in the legal community and outside observers who believe the traditional
separation between the white house and the attorney general should remain and he's already sort of crossed that line. this guy has been in washington a long time. he knows exactly how this will be interpreted. it will be interpreted as sucking up to the boss. showing that he is a team player. there are a lot of hotels in washington, d.c. with good rates. he obviously didn't have to go to the trump hotel. >> let's go through this a little bit more, nia. barr is paying for the event himself. according to a justice official speaking to the post. they tried to book a couple other hotels first and they weren't available. career ethics officials were consulted and thought ethics rules didn't prohibit him from doing this. but it's not a good look, is it? >> right. it isn't a good look. and i think ryan is exactly right. barr is in some ways happy to flout the sort of not really rules, but happy to put a thumb in the eye of folks who say this
is bad. it's sort of a bad perception. but it's also keeping with who barr is. he's somebody who actually campaigned for the a.g. job by writing this memo about the mueller investigation, essentially saying it was going too far and the president had it in his power to fire jim comey. that's essentially how he got the job. and he also knows how important loyalty is to this president. right? this is a president who likes to hold cabinet meetings where everyone sort of goes around those cabinet meetings and sings trump's praises. as if trump really is the chosen one. right? if you're bill barr this $30,000 check to the boss is a way for him to show loyalty to a boss he knows really appreciates a loyalty and values it. and has a contest in some ways between folks in his cabinet. about who can sort of show the most loyalty and fealty to this
president. there he is throwing this party. >> nia, let's talk g7. president trump clashing with allies over reinviting putin. why does president trump continue to be putin's biggest advocate on the world stage? >> he really likes putin. this has been something that's established even before he was a president. the idea of holding the beauty pageant there or the idea of maybe he could become putin's best friend. he's long seemed to admire him. he clearly likes strong men. he gets along with him and likes to pal around with him. there was speculation about why that is. putin obviously favored him to win the presidency and put a massive effort, million-dollar effort into ensuring that he would win the presidency. and so i think you have trump who wants to -- i think also sort of buck what obama did by showing he's pals with putin. but it's certainly bizarre to have him in those meetings with those other g7 leaders plaegd
the case for putin, who it's not clear putin wants to get back into the g7. he's somebody who disdains these international organizations, disdains western-style democracies. so the idea that he is begging to get back into the g7, it's not like he needs to because he has trump there to do it for him. >> here's the reporting, ryan, and then you can weigh in. leaders discussing issues like iran, the fires in amazon and trump interjects to ask about russia not being there. it sounds like he only cared about putin's interests instead of the priorities of the meeting. >> you couldn't have made it up. right? the president who his entire political career since he started his campaign has been accused of being too pro-putin and weirdly pro-putin. that to the point where it's been investigated to death to figure out is there some kind of financial relationship there? what is going on with this relationship? it's just been, you know, this
mystery for years now. and he has no self-awareness that that is something that seems a little suspicious. goes into this meeting. it's not on the agenda. russia's not asking to get back in. none of the other countries want russia back in. they've already set down the criteria by which they would need to meet to get back in and they haven't met it obviously. and trump only talks -- his big priority is putin should be here. >> there's one question, ryan. why? >> i don't know. i don't know. we have not -- that mystery hasn't been solved. the mueller report frankly didn't solve it. it's the question that hangs over this presidency. it might just be as simple as putin didn't like hillary, he wanted me to win, he obviously helped trump win and that's good enough for trump. there were not a lot of world leaders who wanted trump to win. putin was the by far the most important. and it may be as simple as that.
i don't know. is that clip you played before the break, official member, recreating the g8, but just as an outside guest, he might not like those circumstances. i've rarely heard trump have so much empathy for someone. the way he was talking about putin might not want that. it is bizarre. >> listen, all of this is happening as there's a hurricane barreling toward puerto rico. he sent out some misleading tweets. he said congress approved $92 billion in aid. if we can put that up. that's not true. >> right. >> the long-term cost estimate fema says is about $42 billion has been allocated. and it's $12.6 billion spent. he's calling the amount spent an all-time record. again, that's not true. approximately $100 billion was allocated for katrina. he keeps misleading on this subject, i guess because in the back of his head he knows that he whiffed the first time and now he's misleading the public on this. thank you both. i appreciate it.
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in a new court filing deutsche bank indicates it has trump-related tax returns. the bank won't say whose. those names are redacted. but the returns could end up in the hands of the house democrats who have subpoenaed them. here to talk about this and what it all means, mr. john dean. john, thank you so much.
appreciate you joining us here. >> thank you, don. >> house democrats one step closer do you think to seeing the president's tax returns? >> well, they have a strong case. they have a law that actually authorizes them to get those returns in the ways and means committee. they have other subpoenas at the finance committee. eventually they will probably get them. but the question is will it be before the 2020 election? >> that is a big question. the question. deutsche bank argued to the appeals court there are statutory contractual and privacy concerns in disclosing whose tax returns that they have that would fall under the subpoena. are those valid reasons to withhold them? >> well, the trump firm himself, the president himself is arguing that they shouldn't be turned over. and those would be the core arguments he would make. and the bank would indeed have those obligations. so they're not illegitimate.
it's just they're up against this rather unusual law that specifically authorizes two committees of congress without any reason to have access to any taxpayer's tax returns. that's the -- the statute that was used to get nixon's returns. >> listen, john, trump's businesses have borrowed more than $300 million from deutsche bank and it is one of the few big banks that had been willing to lend to the trump organization. if the taxes are donald trump's, what will we likely find out? >> well, there could be a lot of trouble there for mr. trump. everything from he could have used false inflation of his financial statements. which could be bank fraud. he could be embarrassed by the lack of income. or resources that shows him
having. it could show he has collateral signatures from unsavory people who are backing up his loan promises. so we don't know. but there's something there, don, that makes him extremely nervous. >> would the president's tax returns show trump's connections with foreign entities? >> they could. there could be cosigners that would be guaranteeing his loans. could be russians. could show transactions that involved the russians and foreign entities. could be arabs. we don't know. but yes, those could be revealing. and he i think knows enough you that don't really mess with those because you can get in serious trouble if you make substantial misrepresentations on your -- either your financial statements or your tax returns. so that's a dangerous area. >> john, i want to at president -- i want to show you what the president said yesterday about the prospect of
making money from hosting next year's g7 at his doral resort. here it is. >> in my opinion i'm not going to make any money. it don't want to make money. i don't care. if i wanted to make money i wouldn't worry about $3 billion to $5 billion. because that's what's -- at some point i'm going to detail that and we'll show. >> he says, john, without evidence that he's lost 3 to 5 billion dollars, doesn't care about making money. what are your thoughts on that? >> i don't believe, don, we will ever see his justification for that, that he just said i'm going to spell this out someday. just like tax returns. he doesn't want to show those either. we have no idea what the man's income is. how much he is making. we do know he is monetizing the presidency unlike any of his predecessors. my president, for example, sold all of his stocks and bought real estate and was very open about what he had on assets.
so nixon, actually, that was one of his sticking points. he really after getting caught as vice president with a slush fund learned his lesson and never again did he mess around in that regard. >> mr. dean, always a pleasure, sir. thank you. >> thank you, don. >> joe biden releasing a new campaign and today -- campaign ad today i should say and he says it wasn't easy to talk about. we're going to show you the extremely personal ad. that's next. ♪ (music plays throughout)
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killed in a car crash. lying in that bed were my two surviving little boys. i couldn't imagine what it would have been like if we didn't have the healthcare they needed ely. 40 years later one of those little boys, my son beau, was diagnosed with terminal cancer and given only months to live. i can't fathom what would have happened if the insurance companies had said for the last six months of his life you're on your own. the fact of the matter is, healthcare is personal to me. obamacare is personal to me. when i see the president try to tear down and others propose to replace it and start over, that's personal to me too. >> hmm. makes you realize what's really important in life. joining me now to discuss, van jones and former congresswoman mia love. van, i see you're nodding there when you look at that. look, there's nothing more important than the gift of life, right?
the vice president is taking health care very personal, talking health care in very personal terms, making the case that president trump isn't the only threat to obamacare. he says that other dem candidates are too. talk to me about this. is this ad effective? what are your feelings about the whole thing? >> look, it's a beautiful ad. a lot of heart, a lot of soul. it's personal. and everybody knows joe biden, but everybody knows what coca-cola is as well. you have to remind people with each ad. you've got to tell the story. and i think that this is the joe biden everybody knows and loves and it's important. this man has buried two children. that is -- that makes him so real. that makes him so relatable. and he's still out here trying to make a difference. he's out here trying to honor the legacy of his own kids. >> are you getting emotional about this, van? >> it's emotional. it is emotional. and i think a lot of people are burying folks.
we have a lot of people whether you're talking about opioids, whether you're talking about gun violence, whether you're talking about suicides, whether you're talking about cancer, whether you're talking about black women dying having babies, you've got a lot of funerals man, and a lot of people suffering and struggling. to have an ad like that is relatable. it's important and healing. i don't know if it does anything for numbers. i'd much rather hear that from politicians than all this back and forth and technical stuff. >> amen. listen, i related to that obviously. you know i had a death recently with my sister and it's been tough, right? so when you see things like that you realize again what's really important. the gift of life is just -- it is the most important thing. mia, in his first ad he stressed electability. second he's focused on health care. both are airing in iowa. smart move to trill down do you think on these issues because according to the "new york times" biden's team has noticed that elizabeth warren, she's gaining in iowa. >> right. well, i think this is the exact
ad he needs to have. when you see warren gaining on him and other people gaining on him, this is the thing that makes him relatable to i would say independents or relatable to so many people out there because the entire -- you see the entire democrat presidential candidates really running to the left. joe biden said look if you're going to get rid of private healthcare insurance and going to give medicare for all, where are you going to find the funds? so i think this is the ad that he needed to have out there. to let people know that this is personal to him. i don't -- you still have to understand how the policies are going to be implemented because the aca wasn't great for everybody. so you still have to speak for and everybody see how you're going to make that work. it's not -- he did what he needed to do. but you have to still see what you can do to make health care work. >> let's talk about the reaction from the other candidates.
bernie sanders is reacting to this campaign, to this new ad now, to this new monmouth poll i should say that was released yesterday showing him rung neck and neck with biden and warren. 9 campaign believes this polling opens the door for an electability argument. does it? what do you i? >> it could. you have to see a few more ads like this. and of course you have a big swing here in terms of the margin of error is pretty big on this poll. but listen, if you're bernie sanders you've got to be looking around saying hey, when do i get some love sneer i -- people have been writing me off since the hillary clinton campaign. elizabeth warren goes up a point everybody jumps up and down. i'm going up two, three points not getting any love, not getting any attention. so i do think at this point bernie sanders has a case to make. listen, if you're talking about electability, on most polls bernie wins a match-up with donald trump. he's now catching up to biden. people have got to deal with bernie sanders. and last time people didn't want to deal bernie sanders he got 47% of the vote in the
democratic party last time and won more than -- i think 25 states. this is an important moment for bernie sanders. i think he is correct to say that he is viable now in the democratic party and the general election. >> so mia, we should point out that yesterday's monmouth poll had a margin of error of almost six points. and most recent polls including the poll cnn released just last week, shows joe bide nguyen a strong lead over the field. we'll have to see if the latest poll is part of a trend or if it's an outlier. it's kind of dizzying to me. but go on. >> well, it should be a wake-up call. actually it's a good poll for joe biden. because it's like hey, people are catching up, i have to do something. which is why i think that that ad is good for him. again, you have way too many people. you've got independents and you've got i think really the center right that is up for grabs. you can't run to the left. you still have to make sure it makes sense. in my district where i'm from there are a lot of people where
the aca did not work for them. their premiums went up, they couldn't keep their private health insurance. a lotful people still want their private health insurance. they want to know who's going to get taxed, who's not going to get taxed. this is a good wake-up call for joe biden because i think that as many people are coming in and coming up on him he has to do something different o'divide himself from all of that. >> mia, i've got to get this in because i know you're passionate about this. the former republican congressman joe walsh says he's launching a primary challenge on president trump. i want you to check this out. this is a "new york times" headline. joe walsh says trump is unfit to be president. some say the same about him. go for it. what do you say? >> i am out -- i'm outside my mind with this person. okay, so first of all, i'm really excited that you have another republican in the race. the person that says i can't wake up every morning to trump's ugly tweets. yet it took me an hour to do some research, and i found on january 12th, 2018 at
approximately 2:58 p.m. that he says there is nothing wrong with saying that haiti is an s-hole country. he goes on to say it's run by blacks. chicago has a black on black violence problem. so this is a person who is i think just as ugly. and he's not fooling anybody. i think i have to think to sit there and think to myself what is this world coming to where somebody can sit there and say i am -- defend the president, even tweet something that is worse than what the president says and then comes back to say i don't believe that this person is morally fit. so i think he's either lying to everybody or he thinks that the president is just not angry enough. i don't know what it is. but this is a person that needs to stay home. >> i'm out of time. and she's mad, van, so we've got to -- >> i am mad. >> amen. >> thank you, mia. thank you, van. see you next time. we'll be right back.
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>> thank you for having me. >> your foe cucus is fighting v suspension now. what's changed and how pref lvat is it? >> voter suppression was enshrined into law. everyone was permitted to vote. it's shifted under ground. the new rules look racially neutral. but they have a disproportionate effect on people of color. closures of presipgtcincprecinc rejection of absentee ballots and provisional ballots, those create the spectrum of voter sus presentation. >> when people show up, they often don't know what to do.
what are those? and how do they work, the voter protection team trainings? >> we're setting up voter protection teams in the 20 battleground state. we begin that where the presidential election, senate contest, state attorneys general, and ballot races, that could decide redistricting for the next decade, those are where we're targeting. these teams will be in place so they're looking at the laws in the states. they're looking at how the laws are implemented. and one of the reasons we're doing it now, at fairfight2020.org, we want to make sure they can stale the operations. we're getting them started. we're not waiting for them to be nominee. we're protecting the vote, not
only from gop interference but from foreign interference, as well. >> after what happened in georgia, this is the perfect thing. it's the obvious thing for you to do. i'm happy you're doing it. it really needs attention. let's talk more. talk about the president's census. this president has not succeeded in adding a citizenship question to the upcoming census. it doesn't feel like it's over. listen to this and we'll talk about it. >> today, i'm hear to say that we're not backing down on our citizenship status of the united states population. i stand before you to outline new steps my administration is taking to ensure that citizenship is counted so that we know how many citizens we have in the united states. make sense? >> i'm sure you have concerns about this. what worries you the most?
>> what is worrying me is that he is attempting to subvert the census. the census is designed to count who is in the country. the provision of services is based on who is in each state. even though the bombast being used by trump, somehow he will overrule the opinion of the supreme court, i don't believe he will be successful. >> this is an important subject. that's gerrymandering. and president barack obama has a new initiative aimed at partisan gerrymandering. the movement for fair maps will determine the course of progress on every issue for the next decade. we can't wait to keep organizing when the redistricting process starts in 2021. the supreme court acknowledged a problem, of gerrymandering.
says the issue is beyond the court's reach. what do you hope this initiative will accomplish? >> this is part of the work we're doing. it's so critical that every person be counted. that will determine the allegation of congressional districts for the entire nation. it is the only legal mechanism to draw the line. the census tells you who gets to cooperate with you to make that choice and redistricting draws the line. unfortunately, chief justice respect roberts and the roberts court undermined and abdicated their responsibility to ensure that every voice is heard. we can do everything in our power to ensure that voters have the protection they need to cast their ballots.
the census works and redistricting is as fair as possible. >> do you see yourself as a potential running mate for any of the democratic candidates? >> it's hubris to be saying that i will be chosen. it would be too coy to say i wouldn't want the job. my responsibility is fair fight 2020. making sure no matter who the nominee is, that we have created an opportunity to scale and make certain that the right to vote is protected and that whoever the running mate is, and i would love to have the offer, but no matter who the running mate is, the next president of the united states protects all americans and that's our mission. >> fairfight2020.org, correct? >> that's it. >> stacey abrams, thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. we'll be right back. when you a buy at t-mot a samsung galaxy note 10? you get unlimited data while on a network
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