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good morning, congressman. >> good morning, alisyn. >> okay. does this phone call between president trump and ukraine's president or what you know at least thus far about the facts of this phone call including that the president this weekend confirmed that he did talk to the president of ukraine about joe biden and his son, does that wrap up the impeachment inquiry in your mind? >> yeah, of course it does. extorting a foreign leader for the purposes of getting that leader to do your political work, to try to find dirt on your opponent is extortion. it is using the assets of the united states of america and the public trust for your own corrupt, if you will, end. certainly political end. and of course the administration is violating the law in terms of producing the whistle-blower report. as you know, the law has no
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ambiguity in it. it says the inspector general or the dni shall convey to congress whistle-blower reports. the president is offering to send some version of the transcript. this is starting to sound a little nixonian. we need to talk to the people who were on not just one if we believe "the washington post" story as many as eight episodes of trying to convince the ukrainian government to research dirt on joe biden. >> okay. so if as you say, this is lawlessness as you see it, is congress now fast tracking impeachment? >> well, as you know, alisyn, i've been in favor of impeachment now for a couple of months. the obstruction of justice counts in the mueller report were enough for me along with the president's general behavior. so yes, i do think -- i can't tell you the house will move
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into impeachment mode right away, but this ups the ante. i think you saw speaker pelosi express that thought when she said if they failed to produce the whistle-blower report, that would elevate this to a new investigation. it's hard not to read between the lines there about what she means. >> george conway, and neil conservative attorneys have an op-ed in "the washington post" and they're saying what they've seen is congressional procrastination on impeachment. they say they've seen the evidence. do you think that there's been congressional procrastination on this? >> well, let me be blunt about all this. there's stuff out there that somehow the democrats lack courage or they're procrastinating. that's not right. i can tell you exactly what is going on here which is that the speaker of the house is super finely attuned to public sentiment.
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and public sentiment maneans do the american people support the impeachment of the president? that's been unclear. now, it is also untrue, i think, that this speaker does not want to do something that would result or assist in this president's re-election. now, i'm not sure she would put it that way. she would put it in terms of public sentiment. but let's remember, alisyn. this presidential election and the presidential election is the single and only way that donald trump will leave office, comes down to a couple of states. it comes down to michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, and a couple of other states. and if you do something that in those states -- not in connecticut or in new york or california -- but that in those states significantly reduces your chances of beating donald trump, you increase the chances of a second term. precisely those political terms, she focuses on public sentiment.
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it is not procrastination. it is not fear of donald trump. it is fear of a second trump term. i think it would at worst be neutral in those states. but that's what's going on here. >> the acting director of national intelligence who is the nation's intel chief is coming before your committee in an open door session this thursday. can you get the whistle-blower complaint from him? >> well, we better. this administration has shown such a daily willingness to be in violation of the law that it wouldn't surprise me. again, there's no ambiguity in the law here. a first year law student knows they need to produce this. but of course this administration -- and this is one of the many reasons this
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president deserves impeachment. it may not follow the law. but no. we are hoping that on thursday, the whistle-blower report is produced. and that if this story -- remember, none of us in the congress have been briefed on the substance of the whistle-blower complaint, but if it is what it appears to be, we're going to bring in a whole lot of other people to find out exactly what the president said when he threatened to withhold -- if he threatened to withhold aid or even implicitly threaten to withhold aid unless the ukrainians coughed up dirt on joe biden. >> and if dni maguire does not release the whistle-blower complaint, is that against the law? >> it is unambiguously against the law. you can read the law. it's not hard. the law says after a seven-day period of the recommendation of the inspector general who we talked to last week and after the inspector general finds that the whistle-blower complaint is both credible and urgent, that
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in seven days, the dni shall -- that's the word -- shall convey that report to the congress. in this instance, he has not done so. he is in violation of the law and should expect congress to sanction him for being in violation of the law. >> i know you also would like to see a transcript of the phone call or phone calls. hooergs what steve mnuchin said about phone kauls like that. >> if there really is nothing there. why shouldn't the white house let the gang of eight and the leaders of the house and senate look at this whistle-blower complaint? if it's as innocent as you say, it would claer it up. >> i think that would be a terrible precedent. conversations between world leaders are meant to be confidential. >> are you entitled to see the transcript of that conversation as someone on the house intel committee? >> you know, alisyn, it's
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remarkable seeing these intelligent people like steve mnuchin and mike pompeo not just come up with statements like that one. but as they both did, to actually smear joe biden without any evidence whatsoever to propagate this notion there might have been corruption. these are people who are debasing themselves in front of a fabulously corrupt president. but no, of course that argument makes no sense. yes, the president is entitled to a certain amount of confidentiality in his conversations with foreign leaders. that is not true if there is an allegation that the was corrupt. if the president calls up a foreign leader and says we're going to withhold your aid and let me restate that this is not something the congress has been briefed on. it is the story out there in the media. but if the president calls up a foreign leader and says we're going to withhold your aid or even alludes to the possibility they may withhold foreign aid in exchange for something political, that is extortion. that is corruption.
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and nobody is entitled to any form of privilege or confidentiality when you're talking about something that might be corrupt. the president himself said -- i think the word he used was perfect. it was a perfect conversation. mr. president, if it was a perfect conversation, let's see and debunk the whistle-blower complaint. because if it was perfect, you have nothing to fear and we have nothing more to talk about. let's see the whistle-blower complaint. let's talk to people who were on the call and listening to the call. this all goes away in 24 hours. something tells me that's not what's going to happen here. >> we look forward to seeing what happens in fronts of your committee. thank you very much. >> thank you, alisyn. we've got some breaking news just in. israel's president announced moments ago he will meet with current prime minister benjamin netanyahu and benny gantz tonight in hopes of ending the impasse from the election. oren liebermann is live with the details. where is this headed?
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>> reporter: the just wrapped up meetings doing what he can as he promised to break through months of political deadlock in israel. he's invited netanyahu and gantz here tonight. a closed door private meeting to try to find some way out of this mess. it's not quite clear what he can do since none of the sides in israeli politics at least at this point seem to be willing to give ground. benny gantz will meet for the first time with the trump administration's peace team. that happened moments ago signaling that washington is getting ready for the possibility that maybe it's not netanyahu they'll be working with. there was another major announcement coming out of the meetings with the president. decided they would recommend benny gantz as the next prime minister. only once in the history of the country have the arab parties made a recommendation for prime minister. that was 27 years ago. back in 1992 they recommended
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razin. it is a major milestone that davis decided to do so especially because it is a party led by benny gantz. they're looking to oust netanyahu. and signals they're looking to play a bigger part in israeli politics here. at this point, it still remains unclear what the president or anyone else can do to get israel out of this mess. >> this is a big development. thank you for explaining all of that to us. another tropical storm is taking aim at puerto rico. chad myers is tracking all of this. looks like there's a lot of activity there, chad. >> there really is. 13 jerry and karen. jerry is moving away. 13 is just a long way out there. this is a storm really just in the middle of the ocean and the caribbean sea. nothing to worry about for the next couple of days. then all of a sudden it decides to move up by late afternoon toward puerto rico as a 40 mile-per-hour storm. this isn't going to be a hurricane that we know of right
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now. none of the models really build this to anything more than a tropical storm. so tropical storm warnings are now posted for puerto rico. we're going to see 3 to 4 more inches of rainfall there. it's just going to be a slight wind maker. but after that, the computer models turn it left again and even tho the european model takes this into the gulf of mexico. we will watch that as it continues. >> thank you very much. president trump has announced a new deployment of u.s. troops and fire power to the middle east after the attacks on the saudi oil facilities. does this put more americans in harm's way? we will discuss next. t-mobile's newest signal reaches farther than ever before. s
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. president trump says he has no intentions of meeting with the -- as they plan to send enhanced systems to the middle east in response to the attacks on saudi oil facilities. the united states and united kingdom are blaming iran. joining me now is barbara starr and retired lieutenant general mark hertling. barbara, i want to start with you. what troops, where, and how will they be used? >> we don't have specifics on that yet. they said there would be a deployment of air and missile defense assets and the u.s. troops to man them to saudi arabia and the united arab emirates. saudi arabia is the big one. the saudis have now requested international support to protect their critical infrastructure.
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u.s. troops will go do that. that will be an interesting mission for u.s. troops. because essentially not a direct threat to u.s. forces, not a direct threat to the united states. but a threat to saudi critical infrastructure. read that to mean protecting saudi oil fields. >> i'll push back a little bit. some of those facilities in the kingdom of saudi arabia and uae are dual facilities of both saudi arabia and the united states. like the arab oil company. in the uae there is a huge air force base there. so part of the defensive requirement is to protect u.s. military as well as ex-pats who are living over there working in the oil facilities. having said that, though, this is a very dangerous approach. because you can't protect all
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critical infrastructure in any nation. it's very challenging. saudi arabia has six air defense battalions within their military. the united states is limited in the number of air defense units we have in our military and they are spread all over the world places like north korea, europe where there is a missile threat against some of our foes. so this is very -- this is in my view a very dangerous approach to reinforce saudi arabia's military with u.s. forces. >> puts more american's many harm's way. i understand that raises or increases the possibility for something to go wrong. leaning against a direct military strike should this be read as something in lieu of that military response? >> i don't think entirely in lieu of. the president has been very clear. he is not looking at this point
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for some kind of military air strike, if you will against iran. but there's another option out there and that is a cyberattack. the pentagon, the u.s. also looking very strongly at what it could do in this cyber arena. it's done it before. they have a capability, very classified to try to interrupt iranian kmaungcommunications. so they could make it harder for another attack to happen. general hertling's a great general. i want to push back against him just for a second. defense secretary esper said they had a critical infrastructure. they had sold a billion dollars in weapons. it's an interesting question how the iranians were able to get around all that and prosecute a successful attack. >> let me read how nancy pelosi weighed in here. but it gets to this tension
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point between the two of you which is fascinating. let me read what nancy pelosi writes this morning. she says, americans are weary of war and don't want to enter another middle east conflict particularly on behalf of saudi arabia. they will not stand by while the president undermines our security and jeopardizes the lives of our brave service members. there are people on both sides of the aisle at this point who don't want u.s. servicemen and women going to fight a war which is how some are depicting this. >> yeah, john. and i'm one of those, truthfully. because part of the issue having been in the middle east for a significantly long period of time. what i'll share with you is one of the things the military will look for. if it is get iran back to a negotiating table.
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that's interesting, but we had them at a negotiating table. it could have been to the point where a lot more things could have been discussed but they weren't. so to negate a deal that was pushing them towards negotiation seems foolish to me. truthfully with them. without a military strategy of what are we trying to achieve is a recipe for disaster? >> barbara, any sign at all that the administration will go to congress for direct specific authorization for any of this? >> for this mission, i don't think at this point there's an indication. they're going to have to notify them officially that they're doing this. and they will have to have a legal justification for it. every military mission has to have that legal justification. what general hertling said is so important. you have to have a strategy. you have to have an end state.
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very easy to get into but how do you get out of them. >> and if i may, john, one more thing. that aumf that's different from the ones we've been negotiating under does more than provide money. it shows support from the american people and from the congress of the united states. and military personnel want that kind of support before they go in some place and fight. we haven't had an aumf which shows we can't get people together on supporting the troops like they all say they do. >> aumf, congressional authorization of military force hasn't been used in decades. thank you for joining us this morning. is there a new front runner in the democratic race? we will bring you a new cnn poll out of iowa. next. laying ] mom you've got to get yourself a new car. i wish i could save faster. you're making good choices. you'll get there. ♪
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in this highly partisan political climate, an interesting experiment has just concluded. hundreds of voters representing all all ideologies coming together to cut through the noise. >> it's a four-day political marriage with all the bumps that come with it. kyung lah is live with what went on here. >> reporter: yeah. what could happen? you put a trump voter from the midwest or the south in the same room, a small room with a liberal from the northeast or the west coast. well, what the people who conducted this experiment decided to do is they just don't start the conversation talking about the president. you talk about it what is it
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you're concerned about. read some materials about it. and that's where the conversation starts. in the heart of texas -- >> last table on the left will check in you in. >> little more serious. that's great. >> reporter: 526 americans gath gathering. >> i love this. great. thank you so much. >> reporter: upset about the partisan divide. >> let's be real. >> reporter: this is an experiment. a scientific sample. democrat, republican, and independent representing 47 states. >> you are going to listen to other people whom you never ordinary would encounter. >> reporter: reflecting who votes on election day. >> hey, how are you? >> reporter: it's a four-day in-person poll called america in one room.
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before arriving, this group took one poll on the major issues in the 2020 election. here -- >> it's a great question. >> reporter: -- they listen to candidates, to ex. erts. >> this is really your time to have your voice heard. >> reporter: and break into randomly selected small groups to talk. >> when's the last time you talked to a 70-year-old white republican? >> i don't think i've ever talked to a 70-year-old white republican. until now. >> you know, we're being stormed at the southern border and that's a problem that needs to be dealt with. >> the illegal immigrants that we have today, you can see it all of the time. waving their country's flags, burning the american flag. >> on tv you see doing all this crazy stuff, but most of them work. >> reporter: like the country, this group is deeply divided about immigration. >> i feel like there should be a wall, a border wall. and along comes i.c.e. deports. how can we continue to do that in america? >> we don't want to learn your
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language. we don't want to follow your customs. we follow our own customs. and to me it looks like they don't want to become americans. >> you know, gary, your family were illegal immigrants. the american indians. this was their country. all of us came here. and we didn't learn their language. we didn't learn their customs. we said, you take ours and you take it now. so we're all children of illegal immigrants. i don't know how we can be so choosey about the new ones. >> that got to be a little heated in there. >> it definitely did. but we've all respected one another and got to hear each other's opinions. i never thought i would be able to relate to someone who's a republican and i have more than once. >> i think it's been interesting to talk to trump supporters because i don't meet many. >> seeing all of these people from all these other walks of life exactly how my views have changed on it, i'm not so hard core. >> reporter: what is your advice
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about political discourse in this country? >> you need to listen. not yell. not scream. you need to talk. >> reporter: at the end -- >> this is how your voice will be heard. >> reporter: -- a closing poll to see if there's movement on any issues. >> it's opened my mind to see i need to listen to other people's views. >> reporter: it's the recognition that there is unexpected power. >> i really enjoyed you being here. >> reporter: and bridging the divide. >> i have enjoyed this beyond measure. >> reporter: now, the poll results researchers say will be published on october 2nd. they don't know if it's going to show any movement. they suspect that it will. and john and alisyn, just from what we saw, you saw those people hugging? they left that room as friends despite being on the opposite ends of the political spectrum.
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john, alisyn? >> i love this exercise. i love this exercise. i mean, we have this exercise often with our voter panels here on "new day." they, too, take pictures afterward, hug, understand each other. we're so geographically siloed in this country that just what you found, they don't often have a chance to talk and willen to each other and meet. and it's just a great exercise. >> i think it's listening with your ears rather than listening with your mouth. >> which is something we've seen here sometimes. >> kyung, thank you very much. a new cnn des moines register poll shows elizabeth warren surging in oiiowa. >> and her support there has more than doubled since march. want to bring in mark mckinnon. if we could put that back up on the screen, the numbers again. what you see are trend lines,
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aiesha. you see lelizabeth warren gainig ground and joe biden losing from 27 to 20. based on what you're hearing and feeling among democratic voters in iowa, is that about right? >> absolutely. what we're seeing is hard work paying off. elizabeth warren has had a plan for everything. she's had a plan for iowa since day one. before she even launched her campaign, she hired some of the best and brightest talent in the country but certainly in the state. she hired emily parcell who pretty much ran president obama's 2008 delegate operation. which is why he ended up beating hillary clinton and then catapulting to become president. she also hired the big race that happened with finkenhower. she hired her campaign manager. so elizabeth warren probably has the most sophisticated political operation on the ground we're
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seeing her be well executed there. >> i see what we see in the history of the democratic primary. which is if you look at jimmy carter, barack obama. you want to be the new thing not the old thing. there's all this for more divert fi for women. new ideas, not the old ideas. and if you're a progressive candidate and you have this sort of buffet of ideas that are progressive and there's not a lot of distinction between bernie sanders and elizabeth warren, why wouldn't you go with elizabeth warren. you have the old angry white guy saying get off my lawn or the nice professor saying may i mow your lawn. >> and joe biden does better against the african-american
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voters. correct? >> when she gets on the ground and she speaks to people, they connect with her warmth and energy. you can't underscore the fact that people are enthusiastic about her and want to hear what she has to say probably because she's a little bit fresh and new and has interesting ideas. but people are lining up to hear her whether or not they're the ones in the polls that are already with her. they want to know what she's talking about. as we see her have that uptick. it's worth noting that elizabeth warren is the only person in this race that's been on an incline. everyone else is either stag still or nose diving. >> on the other hand we have four, five months to go. the history also is that it breaks really late in iowa. >> i say it's early days. he says it's around the corner. >> bill clinton had not even announced in '92. >> let's just remember barack obama -- >> he was never going to win iowa. he was never going to win new hampshire. it was a different timeline there.
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you'd rather be winning than losing. >> any day. >> i'm telling you, it's all about the ground game in those caucuses. >> but what about the people who do not have the ground swell right now and i'm thinking of cory booker who says he's in some financial dire straits. >> it's beyond just that. it's really interesting. this campaign came out over the weekend and said we're going to drop. we're going to drop out. >> unprecedented really. >> let me read the statement here. we got in this race to win it. if we cannot raise the $1.7 million to scale up the operation, we don't believe we'll be able to compete for the nomination. they say they've raised a fairment. this could be an effective fund raising ploy, but i don't think you want the whiff of being dead in the water. >> of desperation? >> yeah. exactly. >> the thing we know about politics today, the reason we have so many candidates is that you can do more with less because of technology, because of the internet, because of social media. but you can't do more with nothing. i mean, kwouf got to pay your
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campaign staff. that's where cory booker is at right now. it's an existential threat. that is a good way to raise money. but you have put a lantern on it. >> to be fair, i think there is a significant kind of fund raising -- i won't call it a ploy, but there's an urgency of sharing with the donors. said, look, we've got enough money to pay people and we can keep this thing going. but to be competitive. to execute our strategy. they need to place in iowa to be real here. in order to place in iowa, they're going to have to spend $2 million more. >> this was the opposite of what mccain did in 2018 when he was forced to down scale and drop out because he didn't have the money. he said i'm going to fight no matter what. cory booker is saying i'm bailing. >> because he's already got a job. >> can i ask mark, on your show "the circus" you had an interesting quote from joe walsh who is trying to primary against
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president trump. if he went out of his way to think he elizabeth warren can win. i want to play this sound. >> 2020 is a referendum on trump. nothing else matters. elizabeth warren, free college, tariffs. none of that matters. it's going to be a blood bath in 2020 with this guy at the top of our ticket. i don't think it matter ifs it's bernie or elizabeth warren, whoever it is. >> i think she'd destroy trump. >> i think the resistance to trump is so profound, that i think independents and democrats are gun shy because nobody saw this goof, this moron winning in 2016. >> he's really unplugged. >> but what does he get out of that? what does joe walsh get out of elizabeth warren electricitiability? >> he's saying any democrat can beat trump. that's why warren is doing well. biden said i'm the only one who can win. polls increasingly show that
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almost any nominee currently would beat president trump. so that's the argument that joe walsh is making. >> i take issue with this conversation about electability. because it always devolves into this idea that in order to beat the crazy white guy, you've got to have another crazy white guy. i think it's a false narrative. i think it's ridiculous. to me what electability means is enthusiasm on the ground with the base. so what we saw is that 2016 went awry in part because hillary clinton didn't get the energy and the turnout that she should have gotten partly from african-americans but just in general. lost young people too. and then of course there were the people who went over to trump. i think that the dem nominee is going to have to rile people up, get us jazzed up and excited. i think it's going to be the person with the bold ideas looking towards the future. i do not think it's going to be more of the past that does that to animate the base in a way that folks really turn out to get rid of donald trump. >> are you saying joe biden is a crazy white guy? >> i'm not saying he's crazy at all, but i think there's a clear sense of if we go forward or
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all right. the president this morning is admitting that had talked to the leader of the ukraine about joe biden his political opponent but says it's no big deal. turns out, there's more historical context for this than you might think. john avalon here with a reality check. >> kind of a big deal, guys. look. perspective is the thing we have least of in our politics. let's put this latest trump scandal in perspective before the weight of washington
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normalization once again defines doo dooef yen si down. to investigate his political rival joe biden's son. now, keep in mind this was one day after the mueller hearings on capitol hill. the very next day, president trump is accused of being at it again. this time from the oval office potentially using taxpayer dollars at leverage. it turns out a quarter of a billion dollars of aid to ukraine was put on hold at the time. the whistle-blower complaint was investigated by a trump appointee who found it of urgent concern. at this point the direct of intelligence is to share it with congress. but he refused. this is believed to be the first time the dni refused to share a
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whistle-blower complaint from congress. the white house initially denied everything. then the president admitted it included a conversation about biden. >> the conversation i had was largely kindergarten tour. largely the fact we don't want our people like vice president biden and his son creating to the corruption already in the ukraine. >> the president calls a conversation pitch perfect. did nothing wrong. which raises a few obvious remedies. first, just released the inspector general's report. nothing's wrong. then there's nothing to hide. second, release the transcript. this is going to fuel calls for impeachment. related to domestic agencies use i -- after the whistle-blower complaint could be considered attempted bribery.
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cnn legal analyst explains they can curry favor with the president by digging up dirt on political opponents. it is illegal for any person to receive anything of value from a foreign nation in relation to an election. it's a mistake to look through this at the narrow lens of criminal statutes. can't let the president solicit on the thing that makes us a republic. every member of congress should demanding the transcript of the call. they need to evidence to know if he was looking for help with the election. if so, the presidency must end. if not only transparency will resolve suspicions of grave wrong doing. trying to solicit dirt from a foreign power on a political rival would be an abuse of power and one republicans would condemn if a democratic
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president did it. and that's your reality check. >> you know, john. that's such an important distinction. and i'm glad you made it here. which is legality isn't necessarily the only standard here that matters. >> exactly right. impeachment itself is a political process. but there are also things like ethics, things we forget about sometimes. >> thanks for the historical reminder. great to see you. meanwhile, well known travel company goes belly up overnight leaves hundreds of thousands travelers stranded around the world. christine romans joins us. how did this happen? >> 600,000 travelers around the world trying to figure out how to get home this morning after thomas cook shut down last night. now, the collapse of the iconic company forcing the largest peacetime repatriation effort in uk history. think of that. the government now flying 150,000 stranded brits home. the uk's civil aviation authority says it will cost about 750 million bucks to get everybody home. the collapse comes after a very rough year for thomas cook.
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prince harry, meghan markle and their 5-month-old son archie have arrived in south africa as they begin their first official
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overseas trip as a family. the ten-day trip is expected to be poignant for prince harry as he honors his mother's legacy. max foster got this great assignment, live in capetown with more. so tell us what the family is doing and what they're seeing? >> well, just arrived, alisyn, not your normal formal official welcome you expect for royals. they've come straight to this township known as the murder capital of south africa. more than 200 murders reported to the local police station every year. here they are at a project very much with the duchess really, all about female empowerment. this is where young girls will come to be taught about empowerment training and self-defense. this part of the tour extremely seriously. after this they're going to go on to an area called district 6 where during the apartheid era, tens of thousands of people were forcibly removed from their homes. when you speak to people here,
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obviously the biggest celebrity couple of the world, some interest there, but interest in the dutchess' back story. after this part of the visit harry will go off to other parts to angola, botswanna, picking up on issue his mother carried about, land mines and hiv/aids trying to keep their legacy alive. they're going to be hurdling around the region, lots to see and people holding out for pictures of young archie who will be carrying out his first official engagement after a few months of life here in south africa at some point and it's very important that we get those pictures as soon as we receive them. i know he's excited about them. >> he is really on the edge of his seat, i can tell you right now. but i mean, look, let's face it, a lot of people want to see baby archie, prince archie. it's wonderful to see obviously all of the south african colors and the dancing, but people are just as interested in seeing the picture of him so, will we
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see video of him? >> well, what they're saying is there will be an engagement he will turn up. that's the plan. he's a young baby. you can't predict what young babies are like. they're not telling us where or when or if but we've seen pictures actually taken by local photographers at the airport. these pictures tend to slip through. we'll wait to see. it's an exciting moment. the couple are really big deal, but with archie even bigger because we've seen so little of him. >> so true. tell us more about why this is so important to harry and how it honors his mother's legacy? >> well, harry's got a deep connection with africa, coming here for years. they got engaged here in africa. the duchess hasn't been here before, but plays often into that issue which is why so many eyes are focused on her. for harry, he is, you know, one of the reasons he carries out a lot of his charity work is to keep his mother's legacy alive. in angola he's going to be retracing his mother's footsteps as she walked through that land mine and those iconic images and
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in botswanna, the hiv/aids awareness issue. we will get a sense really of how ahead of her time she was, but also about the progress since she died and angola is actually the visit was in 1997 which is where she did. it's going to be point yapts for harry as she goes back there. >> bring us all of the developments as soon as you get them. john is clamoring for those. >> this is unfair. i think this is a terrific trip. i give the duke and duchess -- >> you've come around. >> huge props for this. are you clamoring to see a picture of the baby like i am? >> i would love to see a picture of the baby. that doesn't get to the issue of why the united kingdom has a king and queen and has all this stuff. >> here we go. >> whether we should still be celebrating it. but i love this trip. >> very nice. thanks to our international viewers for watching. for you stay tuned for cnn newsroom. for our u.s. viewers the calls for impeachment are growing with this whistleblower scandal.
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a top house democrat joins us live. "new day" continues right now. >> we had a great conversation. we don't want our people creating to the corruption already in ukraine. >> trump did a terrible thing. focus on the violation of the constitution this president is engaged in. >> there's enough smoke here. somebody other than me needs to look at it. >> and the emmy goes to "game of thrones". >> "fleabag." >> phoebe waller-bridge. >> i count myself so fortunate to be a member of a community that is nothing but all about tolerance and diversity. >> we as artists are the people that get to change the molecular structure of the heart and minds of the people who live on this planet. >> this is "new day" with alisyn camerota and john berman. >> good morning and welcome to your "new day." monday, september 23rd, 8:00 in the east.
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president trump admits it, he admits it. he admits he brought up unfounded corruption allegations against joe biden during a phone call with the president of ukraine over the summer. the question now is, what are democrats going to do about it? there are some new signs this might be a tipping point even a tipping point on impeachment. speaker nancy pelosi is promising a new stage of investigation unless the trump administration turns over a whistleblower's complaint about the president's conduct by thursday. the house intelligence chair adam schiff now says impeachment may be the only remedy. >> trump claims he hopes a transcript of his ukraine phone call will be released. well, good news, mr. president, you have the authority to order that. moments ago the top republican on the house intelligence committee seemed to suggest that he supports that trips being released, though he couched it this way. >> if we're now going to be -- congress we get to listen in and read tripses of the president's


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