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the impeachment saga and president trump's bid for re-election. in just moments we will unveil the results of our latest cnn "des moines register" iowa poll. this comes just 23 days out from that all-important first in the nation caucus in just three days before the democratic candidates for president face off at the cnn presidential debate. joining us now is cnn political director david chalian. he's live in des moines, the site of next week's debate. david, break the news. how do voters in the heartland view impeachment right now. >> reporter: it's a critical question as we're turning the corner into the senate trial. we asked registered voters here in iowa in this brand-new exclusive cnn "des moines register" poll if indeed they think president trump should be removed from office. 40% say he should. but 48% say he should not be removed from office. take a look at how this splits by party. unsurprisingly, all the democrats basically think he should be removed and all the republicans think he should not
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be removed from office. look at that middle line. look at independents. a slim majority, 51% of independents here in iowa, a critical battleground state, say he should not be removed from office. only a third, 34%, say he should. watch that number over the course of the trial. if that 34% goes up, not just here in iowa, but nationally as well, and that 51% comes down, that will have ramifications for the politics around the trial such as calling witnesses or other matters that come up. >> so at the same time, though, david, the polling also shows majorities across the party lines think that trump -- what he did in ukraine was not okay. >> reporter: and this is key. while some people obviously feel that he shouldn't be removed from office, you are right. majorities across all parties say no candidate should be asking a foreign country to dig up dirt on a rival, to have interference in the election.
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take a look at that. even 59% of republicans believe what the president is accused of doing here is not okay. >> trump won iowa by more than nine points last time around. how does his re-election effort look right now? >> reporter: well, it looks like he has work to do in iowa. obviously november is still a ways off. we don't have a democratic nominee yet. this has to take shape in terms of the general election. but look at these numbers. 44% of registered iowans say they're definitely voting for someone else. that is a mighty big number as the president heads into re-election. look at this split by gender, ana. 50% of female registered voters here in iowa refusing to even consider donald trump. they are definitely voting for someone else. he is clearly going to have to do some work with female voters. but he has a lot of work to do in iowa to do more broadly as
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well. >> let's talk about specifically suburban women. because that was the group that provided a bit of a stumbling block for republicans in 2018. how is it looking for the president with that voting block? >> reporter: without a doubt, you are right about 2018. this is a critical voting group and it's even a steeper problem for him than women overall. suburban women -- take a look at this number here in iowa. 56% of suburban female registered voters in this critical midwestern state will not be considering donald trump. they are definitely voting for someone other than the president. that is a pretty tough statistic for the president. it's sort of his to-do list. he's going to have to try shore some of those suburban women up who were with him, some of them, in 2016. >> he still has to be pretty happy about those initial numbers when it comes to impeachment and removal from
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office. david chalian, thank you for bringing the latest. joining us now, former adviser to four presidents both democrats and republicans, david gergen. the majority of iowa voters may think what trump did was wrong, but not necessarily that he should be removed from office. should that give democrats pause at all? >> it certainly should, i think. democrats will be wise to avoid a lot of radical language. they really need to make the case he not only did something that was wrong, but you can't trust him in this situation. he's not really fit for the office. we came to the brink of war in the last few days. but they have to recognize that iowa has internal strength just as we see in much of the country, that a lot of people don't like trump, but they like what he's done. they like what he's done on jobs and the economy. you see that split all across the country. i really think that what it suggests in terms of the
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upcoming caucuses is that, while iowa at the moment doesn't like trump, but they're not radically out there, the far left, i'm not sure that that's good territory for sanders and warren to be push, push, pushing to get him out of office. it does seem to me that iowa wants to give him a spanking and say we don't want him removed from office. >> that last poll we showed with david chalian of the suburban female voters, 56% saying they would definitely vote for someone else. if the president starts losing this voting block, how big of a deal is that? >> that is a huge deal. i do think david chalian was right on the mark that trump has a lot of work to do if he wants to get re-elected and rewin iowa. we saw it in the off-year elections just last year that when suburban women turn against the republican party, that gives an opening to the democrats to win seats in the house, which is just what they did.
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now we see the same kind of bleeding and suburban women stepping away from trump that makes it harder for him to win re-election. so they don't want him necessarily removed from office now, but they're not up to voting for him again in many cases. >> last night we unveiled the first part of our cnn poll that showed a tight four-way race in iowa. >> yes. >> here's the thing, though. half of the contenders are in the senate, meaning they'll be forced from the campaign trail as soon as next week to serve as jurors in the impeachment trial. who do you think that hurts the most? >> the people who can't go to iowa. iowa is a state that traditionally makes a big difference. if people see you there, shake hands with you, it's not enough to see your ads. they want personal presence. what that means is the two moderate leading democrats, biden and buttigieg, neither one of them has to make a run to wash. they can park in iowa and have the field to themselves. warren and sanders are the two
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that are going to be under pressure. staying in washington could conceivably hurt them. >> we have one more debate next week before iowa votes. in the lead-up, the president has gone on the attack against many of the big names leading the pack. just listen. >> it's like watching death. those debates are boring. they're boring. you got to sit through those things, you got to be committed to the country to do that. did you see pocahontas is doing? bernie is surging. buttigieg! buttigieg! nobody can pronounce it. nobody has any idea how the hell to say his name. biden doesn't know the difference between iran and iraq. he's gotten it wrong four times. you have to have where's hunter as a witness. i said that's his first name. i've made his first name where's. where's hunter? >> david the gloves are off. who do you think we'll see punch the hardest tuesday night?
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>> well, i think there are four top candidates very closely bunched, very fluid field. i think they are going to probably go after sanders more than they have in the past. they've laid off him for a good deal of the campaign, especially around his heart attack. but now that he's taken this slight lead in the "des moines register" cnn poll, his five points out of biden. biden the number four and that's dangerous territory for biden. but i do think that's a reason biden may be a little harder hitting. what i also think, though, is that president trump can fire up his base with the kind of rhetoric we just heard. it does not help him with suburban women. they just get turned off by that kind of hiyperbole. that's why he's never broken 50% in approval. >> david gergen, you are wise, thank you very much for being
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here. >> thanks, ana. good to talk to you again. >> you too. a reminder, the last debate before the first vote is here on cnn. tune in this tuesday, 9:00 p.m. eastern, for the cnn presidential debate in partnership with the "des moines register." something astounding is happening right now as we speak in iran. crowds are people filling the streets fighting with police. they are protesting against the government. it's the same day iran admitted shooting down a civilian airliner taking so many lives. it's got president trump's attention. he's sending them messages in their own language. we'll have full details next. where ore-ida golden crinkles are your crispy currency to pay for bites of this... ...with this. when kids won't eat dinner, potato pay them to. ore-ida. win at mealtime. potato pay them to. does scrubbing grease feel like a workout? scrub less with dawn ultra. it's superior grease-cleaning formula gets to work faster. making easy work of tough messes. dawn takes care of tough grease, wherever it shows up.
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it's the extraordinary difference one week makes. a few days ago president trump threatened the destroy targets in iran, even cultural sites. tonight he's sending messages of support to the iranian people in their language, calling them brave. it's because of this.
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[ crowd chanting ] this is tehran a short time ago. crowds in the streets shouting the supreme leader's name telling him to get out. they're furious the governments admission that iranian forces shot down a civilian airliner killing 176 people. until today the iranian government flatly denied it. now the admission and an apology and the blame. iranian officials say they would not have made that tragic mistake had the united states not put their entire country on edge. president trump a short time ago tweeting this message to the protesters in both english and farsi. to the brave, long-suffering people in iran, i've stood with you since the beginning of my presidency and my administration will ton stand with you. we are following your protests closely and are inspired by your courage. all of this developing news, missile attacks on u.s. troops, the shootdown of a commercial
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flight, all followed the killing of iran's top general ordered by the united states. eight days since the drone strike that killed qassem soleimani, the trump administration has yet to agree on the details to justify it. >> soleimani was plotting imminent and sinister attacks on american diplomats and military personnel. >> if you're looking for evidence, you need to look no further than days that led up to the strike. >> we did it because they were looking to blow up our embassy. >> he was looking very seriously at our embassies and not just the embassy in baghdad. >> we don't know precisely when and we don't know precisely where, but it was real. >> we had specific information on an imminent threat, and those threats included attacks on us embassies. >> you can reveal that i believe it would have been four embassies. >> joining us now, the former homeland security secretary under president obama, jay johnson. he is also a former general counsel to the department of
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defense and is currently a director with defense contractor lockheed martin. mr. secretary, thank you so much for being here with us with us. >> thank you. despite all those titles, i'm here as a private citizen. >> with lots of experience. i know this touches close to home based on everything you've been through working in the obama administration. at this point, do you believe america is safer today after everything that's transpired since the killing of soleimani? >> well, the answer is not two or three words. i have to say, based on on the statements put out by my old department, the department of homeland security, the national threat advisory put out last weekend, that in the immediate my fo aftermath of that strike, we were in a heightened level of tension. that statement was pretty straightforward talking about hezbollah's demonstrated capability and intent to attack the u.s. and how an attack could
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come at any moment. i certainly had not written a statement like that when i was secretary. so one has to conclude that in the immediate aftermath we were less safe. the iranians have, of course, responded. we saw the messaging behind that. if the messaging is to be believed, one hopes that this escalated period of tension is now behind us. >> what are you most concerned about, though, the cyber threat that may be out there? we heard from cities flagging possible attacks by iran already in that capacity. yet we also have this ongoing anything like that threat, right? >> we have to regard in this era cyber warfare as part and parcel of traditional warfare. >> what is iran capable of? >> iran is in terms of its level of sophistication and capability, it's up there. it's probably among the top 10
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or 15 nations in sophistication. i will not say they are as softd as united states, russia, or china, but they have demonstrated a capability in this space that has to be respected and defended against. >> i have to ask you because of your experience with the obama administration after the president went after obama's foreign policy this week, not just on iran, it's not happening in a vacuum, he attacked many different aspects of his foreign policy. let's take a quick listen. >> i think that the obama administration was -- was just letting them get away with murder in the true sense, murder. >> president obama wanted to meet and chairman kim would not meet him. >> al baghdadi created a caliphate bigger than the state of ohio. and with obama, you did nothing. you did nothing. but get your ass kicked. >> do you think there's an obama obsession there? >> first, in the current
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environment the american public is concerned about whether we're going to war. in matters of national security, one would hope that this president or any president would put aside the partisan attacks. that's number one. number two, president trump and his administration keeps saying we gave him all this money as part of the jcpoa. no, we didn't. it was their money that had been frozen for years. and as part of the jcpoa, that money was unfrozen. it didn't go to pay for missiles. a lot of it was owed by the government of iran to others. and the basic question that we should ask is, which is what was asked at the time, are we better off with the jcpoa or without it? and the jcpoa was not perfect. no negotiated agreement is perfect for everybody. but for a time, the level of hostilities, their effort to say
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build a nuclear weapon had slowed if not ceased entirely. now we have nothing and we see what nothing looks like. we've seen ever since the trump administration withdrew an escalating level of tension and now violence. and so i think the question that was asked originally has answered itself. are we better off with or without this agreement? and without it, we are where we are right now. we came to the brink of full-scale war with iran over the last week. >> as you know, the department of homeland security has not had a confirmed secretary since kirstjen nielsen left last april. when asked in the past about all the acting people who were serving him, this is what the president said. >> but i sort of like acting. gives me more flexibility. do you understand that? i like acting. >> i know you believe that is the wrong attitude to have. >> i could not disagree more because an acting has no job
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security. when you're appointed, confirmed by the senate, you serve at the pleasure of the president. but still there's a level of job security that you're there for the duration of the president's term. and i think the president has virtually said this. when you're acting you're perpetually trying out for the job, which means he's not getting the best advice. so often a cabinet officer in addition to running his or her agency has to tell the presidet what he needs to hear but doesn't necessarily want to hear. and when you're in an acting role hoping to get the real job, it's not a good environment in which to provide that very, very important advice. >> all the developments with iran this week really put war and peace at the center of the 2020 race. is there one who you would trust most to be the commander in chief? >> well, for now i'm staying neutral in the democratic primary. i'm sure i will support whoever
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the nominee is. obviously the one i know best is the one i worked alongside, that's vice president biden. he's in a position from his years in the senate and his eight years as vice president to understand national security, to understand the world situation. there are other very fine candidates in the race right now, but i believe that national security should loom large in the current discussion because of where we are in the world scene. >> i know you're staying neutral in the 2020 race, but you and i have talked about possible future ambitions for you. i know you're happy where you are right now, but if somebody asked you to be the number two person on their ticket after the primary is all done, would you accept? >> well, it's not part of the life plan. i am retired from public office. but if someone were to come to me, i would have to obviously seriously consider it. >> is there any candidate out
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eastern half of the u.s.. the storm spawning tornadoes and widespread damaging winds in the south. also bringing heavy snow and ice to parts of the midwest including chicago where hundreds of flights were canceled or delayed today at o'hare international airport. that city faced wintry weather. in louisiana, strong winds so strong, in fact, cars were flipped over. homes were destroyed. power lines even littered roadways, leaving people wondering if it was actually a tornado that swept through. karen maginnis has been tracking all of this for us today. karen, who's in the danger zone right now? >> still across the southeast, also the appalachian mountains, the mid-atlantic over the next several hours. there's a funnel system that sweeps through. still have a number of thunderstorm watches and warnings out all the way from west virginia, south carolina, north carolina, tennessee, down into the panhandle of florida where we see danglimaging winds there. over the last two days, as this
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storm system raked across the central united states, then plowed across the midwest, mississippi valley, the deep south, this is where we see city after city, lots of storm damage and reports of high winds on the backside of this. tonight there will be strong winds, but we do currently have a tornado warning in effect. this is in upstate south carolina, anderson county. so there is the threat or the potential for tornadic activity. over the last two days 12 tornadoes reported. they have been deadly tornadoes. all the way from portions of mississippi and into arkansas and across the central mississippi valley. but look at the severe wind. you don't have to have a tornado for these systems to become deadly. in fact, they're looking at something in louisiana a storm system that turned deadly there. they will assess whether or not that was a tornado as they do surveys over the next day or so. all right. in pittsburgh today, pittsburgh, this time of year the average
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this just in to cnn. a dozen sawed service members will be expelled from the united states in the wake of a shooting in a naval air station in pensacola, florida. david is joining us by phone with this breaking news. david, what can you tell us about why this is happening? >> reporter: that's right, ana. after this investigation began last month into the deadly shooting where you'll remember three u.s. sailors were killed by a saudi national training at this florida air base, the fbi and the pentagon began a review into a number of saudi trainees that were studying at u.s. military installations across the country. now ana, we can report tonight more than a dozen servicemen tharp that were training across the country will be expelled. we've learned that a number of them are accused of having some connection to an extremist movement. some of them as well for possessing child pornography. ana, we should note that none of
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these service members who are expected to be expelled are accused of being coconspirators or aid this guy 21-year-old shooter in any way. the saudis have pledged their full support. the justice department and the fbi did not comment to us tonight, ana. >> tell us more about a letter the fbi apparently sent to apple this week to get more information from the shooter's phone. >> reporter: that's another really interesting wrinkle in this investigation that we learned about in the past few days. on monday the top lawyer for the fbi sent a letter to apple requesting the tech company's help in bypassing the pass code on one of the shooter's -- two of the shooters' iphones, i should say. we learned that this shooter, a 21-year-old saudi trainee had two iphones with him as he attacked the base last month. one of them he left in a car and a second he took in with him and actually is believed to have shot, which has led investigators to believe that there may be some information on that phone. you'll remember we reported at
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the time that this service member who was accused of killing the three americans was believed to have some type of extremism radicalization. his twitter account led investigators to believe that he had been radicalized in some sense. that's why they've requested this help from apple on it. it's a real hearkening back to the 2015 case between the fbi and apple at the time after apple refused to unlock the iphone that belonged to a terrorist who killed over a dozen people at a holiday party in san bernardino, california. well, the fbi actually took apple to court in that situation and it was resolved only at the last minute when the fbi was able to get a third-party company to unlock that iphone. ana, it appears that we may be in the first opening steps of a similar situation playing out here regarding two iphones belonging to the saudi military
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member who attacked the pensacola base last time. >> thank you, david shore tell for that reporting. there are now more than a dozen saudi service members who will be expelled from the united states in the wake that have deadly shooting last month in pensacola at the air base there. now something you will only see here on cnn. an up close look at the air base in iraq where u.s. troops rode out two hours of missile strikes this past week. it was iran's retaliation for the u.s.-ordered killing of their top general. cnn's arwa damon is the only journalist from anywhere allowed access to the register left wre. >> reporter: these were living quarters, sleeping quarters. the troops that lived here lost everything. there was very little, if anything, that was salvageable because there was also a fire
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that ended up raging here for a few hours after the missile impacted in this particular area. the reason why no one was killed, not here, not in any of the other locations of impact, is because there was advanced warning. we don't know what, we don't know how, that is very sensitive information. but we are told that hours before the attack even began, they knew something was happening. they just did not know specifically what it was going to be. so precautions were taken. by 11:00 p.m., troops who could hunker down were hunkered down in bunkers, some of them in bunkers, others mad has had to man their posts because of the security situation. they were still out there. and then the strikes began at about 1:34 in the morning. this is the crater left behind by one of them.
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there are so many stories that we're hearing of heroics, so many stories we're hearing of really extraordinary close calls. those who lived through this say that it's clear that iran wasn't that concerned with trying to save u.s. lives. a lot of these impacts happened in places where they could potentially have caused significant u.s. casualties. and this is lieutenant colonel stacy coleman. we've been speaking all day. you were telling us what was that night like, how do you even begin to describe it? >> it's very hard to describe it. i will tell you, it was extremely scary. some of my team and myself were hunkered down in one of those bunkers. when the first wave started hitting, you could feel the shock wave. even inside the bunker, the pressure was so strong that we watched our bunker door sink towards the inside of the bunker and escape back out. about seven of the impacts were
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in very close proximity. it was extremely scary. >> reporter: and very lucky or was it the training, the precautions that were taken that there were no u.s. casualties? >> i'd say it was you all of that. i'd say it was a combination of god looking out for us. it was a combination of, you know, the little bit of intel and advanced warning that we got. and then it was the smart commanders on the ground making on-spot decisions to get people out of harm's way. >> reporter: how do you begin to describe what this was like? and what kind of security precautions are you having to take now given the situation? >> this was -- like i said, we knew something was happening, but we didn't know exactly what. as the time grew closer, we kind of felt we had an indication of what it might be, but we still
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weren't certain. so we had advanced warning that there may be some rockets followed by a base incursion. so we had to keep our security forces out to make sure that we were safe from that. so there were a good number of folks out along the perimeter and within the airfield keeping it secure. >> reporter: out there on the perimeter, keeping it secure while these missiles are coming in? >> yes. they were outside during every last one of the missile strikes. >> reporter: it would seem it was very fortunate. as we've been saying, because of this advanced warning that exists, because of these precautions that were taken, there is the sense that while this phase of what is unfolding has concluded, everyone here is still very much on high alert. arwa damon, cnn, al asad air
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i want to take you to australia where we are getting a dramatic new look at the devastation caused by bush fires
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by one man stunned by the extent of the devastation in his home down. >> it's [ bleep ] life and death situation. this is by far [ bleep ] most hectic day i've ever [ bleep ] witnessed. here in mallacoota, if they didn't have a boat, they were all evacuated down to the main wl wharf where every was there to take care of the them. their last resort was to take them into the water. >> we have decided to [ bleep ] off from the [ bleep ] house. [ bleep ] now five fronts come through. >> then it started to go black. and be and then it went really black. and then it went red. and then it was quite scary, actually. >> the dogs out the front. got supplies, but i hope everyone's [ bleep ] just
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[ bleep ] houses man. get into the water, it's [ bleep ] chaos. >> it is breathtaking. will ripley is there for us. he joins us from australia's south coast region of new south wales. you have been talking to u.s. firefighters who are there in australia. what are they saying about how big this fire is compared to anything they may have seen before? >> reporter: it is so overwhelming, even for seasoned fire fighting veterans. i was talking with a firefighter from portland, oregon, and he flew over the fire zone, 12 miles of area that have been burnt. to put that in perspective, 1,200 square miles this year, a typically year, anywhere from 38 to under 200 square miles. it's a massive area. its restrain difficult to reach in some cases. right now the weather conditions are not allowing helicopters to even take off because of the fact that you have smoke.
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we can smell the smoke in the air. there's some light rain coming down. which sounds like good news because obviously the temperatures have cooled down quite a bit. last week around this time it was over 110 degrees. today it's in the mid-60s. okay, that's fine. but the amount of rain it is enough to make it slick and slippery but the minute the temperatures climb back up again and the heat wave is back it can spark back up. that could allow the fire to restart, skip over the fire containment lines that have been set and you're right back in the same dangerous situation and have all these people evacuated now back at their homes but they're living with the fact that any day now once the weather changes they could be evacuated and lose their homes, could be in this danger all over again and another interesting thing i learned these american firefighters have never been to australia but they've met australian firefighters in the past because there's this
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reciprocal relationship, firefighters from here in australia, canada will travel to other country foss assist so a lot of these firefighters that are getting help have been to places like montana and washington and oregon assisting the united states with fires that i'm being told every single year a getting hotter and more intense in the u.s. and here in australia. >> all hands on deck. will ripley, thank you for that reporting. we'll be right back. too late. or make me feel like i'm not really "there." talk to your doctor, and call 844-234-2424. you wanna see something thatamazing?ing. go to hilton instead of a travel site and you'll experience a whole new range of emotions like... the relaxing feeling of knowing you're getting the best price. these'll work. the utter delight of free wi-fi... . oh man this is the best part. isn't that you? yeah. and the magic power of unlocking your room with your phone. i can read minds too.
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who will win the greatest of all time on "jeopardy" and $1 million in prize money? what is -- time will tell. it's the ultimate tournament of champion, three of the she's best players fighting for that title. the first to win three matches will take it all and greatest of all time bragging rights. "jep parody's" alex trebek has laid it out. >> ken jennings got us off to a great start winning a close one by 200 points. yesterday james kale on and won handily. perhaps that augers well tore brad. today might be the day he gets to make the big move to put himself into prime contention for that $1 million first place prize. >> joining us now is brad rutter, one of those three contestants. brad, you hold the title for the most money won on "jeopardy" and
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no winner yet. but so far, as far as we know you're not on the scoreboard. were you surprised to get to game three and have no victories? >> yes and no. i mean ken and james are obviously awesome so it was going to be tough sledding no matter what. but, yeah, i was probably a little surprised to get shut out through the first three. >> i want to you listen to what you told me back in may during holzhauer's epic run. >> i bet you'd love a shot to go up against him. >> sure, yeah, i like my chances against anybody. >> do you think you could beat him? >> yeah, like i said i like my chances against anybody. you're not going to get me to talk trash. >> no trash-talking then. will you today? are you feeling as confident as you did then? >> i wouldn't say quite as confident but i think it was ken i had to be worried about. >> the ratings by the way have been bonkers. more than 15 million tuned in, more than watched the first fife
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games of last year's nba finals or even the world series. are you surprised by the interest out there? >> i'm a little surprised at the ratings. not surprised there was a lot of interest. it's an institution and in this social media age you'll see viral clips all the time like i remember the first one i remember really noticing was when the contestant has no idea about the football category and alex was getting snarky with them. this stereotype that it is for your grandparents but not true anymore. >> you mentioned alex trebek and we've been following for awhile now his battle with pancreatic cancer. how is he doing? >> i just saw him on wednesday and he was feeling great. he says he has good and bad days this. helped him out. the job does because you often hear athletes if they're going through tough things in their life the field or court is a sanctuary for them and i think it's kind of the same way for him. >> so much love out there. good luck to you as the tournament continues.
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thank you for being here. >> finally i want to leave you with a story of one special comeback kid. just look at that face that is john oliver zippay. he had to overcome a challenge tough for even adults. that's chemotherapy. he is beating leukemia and returned to st. helen's catholic for his new and normal life and classmates were so pumped they had to get off their feet and give him this. [ applause ] i just want to give you a huge, huge hug, j.o. and wish you and your entire family all the very best. such a strong, sweet little kid. that does it for me. i'm ana cabrera.
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