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america's small businesses survive this disruption and thrive on the other side of it. in particular, we are preparing to ensure that main street can access liquidity and credit during this extraordinary time. so let me outline for you what we've been doing. i've divided -- created three task forces among senate republicans. each of them tasked with coming up with what could best be described as the next bill. we're trying to reach an agreement among ourselves as to what senate republicans and the administration favor doing next. with regard to the bill that came over from the house, there was some discussion about whether to amend that with a
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bigger proposal because we all know a bigger proposal is necessary, but i've decided that we're going to go on and voas sn as the senate can get permission to vote on the bill that came over from the house, send it down to the president for signature and thus reassure the people around the country that we can operate on a bicameral bipartisan basis quickly. second, we will not leave -- the senate will not leave -- until we have passed yet another bill and clearly that will have to go in two steps. as i ilt candicated earlier, fi senate republicans and the administration will try to reach an agreement on what we think is best for what best could be described as phase three. then the senate being the senate, we will sit down with our democratic counterparts and see what we can agree to.
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that we will not leave-of the senate will not leave town until we have processed yet another bill to address this emergency. with that i'll be happy to take a few questions. yes. >> yesterday president trump suggested that the social distancing may be required through the summer. would that mean that there $1,000 that is being talked about as far as this tranche of -- how long are you planning on giving -- >> all that is things that we will address in the next bill that we're beginning to write already. the details of that i can't tell you yet. but we know an additional bill of much larger proportions is necessary to meet this crisis. if we bend the health care curve, that will determine how long the emergency lasts. and that has required extraordinary measures that
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basically have us in the unusual position of the american government in effect shutting down the american economy in order to meet these health concerns. if we can get on top of the health care concerns and bend the curve, we hope that this will be of limited duration. [ inaudible question ] >> what i'm telling you is we will take up and pass the house bill as soon as the senate gives us permission to do it. and then senate republicans in conjunction with the administration are going to write a next bill, the senate being the senate action we will then discuss with the democrats what we can agree to pass which of course will take 60 votes. the details of that obviously have not been determined yet.
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[ inaudible question ] >> the details will be worked out in a way that i justo outlined. so i can't give you an answer about what the overall cost of it will be. we haven't determined that yet. obviously that final determination will be made with our democratic colleagues. but we're not leaving town until we have constructed and passed another bill basically phase three would be the best way to look at it. >> are any democrats on this -- also, at what point do the republicans become comfortable in spending a trillion dollars? >> i just said the first step is for republicans to largely agree
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on what we think is the best way to address this emergency. and second, we will consult with our democratic colleagues and see what we can agree to. that is the way that we'll go forward here in the senate and we'll stay here until we do reach a booich agreement and achieve at least 60 votes to pass it. [ inaudible question ] >> are you talking about timing? >> for the cash payments to americans. >> anytime that it requires legislation, it cannot move until we pass legislation. is that what we're talking about? [ inaudible question ] >> they will do whatever they are allow dodd as quickly as they can. the rest of it requires our
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permission legislation difference live. first thing is take up and pass the bill that came over from the first thing is take up and pass the bill that came over from the house. a second phase i've outlined already. >> can you address the house bill passage, there still is a lag time in repaying small businesses for their employees. you can address the concern with that lag time for small businesses? and then once the number three stimulus gets through the congress, are you considering then -- [ inaudible ] >> a number of my members think that there are considerable shortcomings in the house bill. my counsel to them is to gag and vote for it anyway even if they think that it has some shortcomings. and to address those sho shortcomings in the bill that we're in the process of crafting. i cannot predict how long we'll
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be here, but we'll be here as long as it takes. [ inaudible question ] >> i can't answer that. >> we've been told that number of republicans and i guess the rules committee working on potentially voting from home -- >> no, we'll not be doing that. look, there are a number of different ways to avoid getting too many people together. just to give you a hypothetical, it is not set in stone that roll call vote only goes on for 15 minutes. we could lengthen the amount. people could come over one at a time, come over in small groups. we will deal with the social distancing issue without fundamentally changing the senate rules. >> people are still going to the supermarkets and seeing all this uncertainty, what do you want to
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tell them? >> the way to indicate certainty is to get about doing what we're talking about. to see bipartisan bicameral action. and that will happen on the house passed bill as soon as we can clear whatever procedural issues we have to clear to get it across the senate floor and get it down to the president for signature. and then we'll move here at warn speed for the senate, which almost never does anything quickly. i think that everyone on both sides of the aisle oig is seized with the urgency of moving yet another bill and intend to do that. >> part of the house bill for -- [ inaudible ] >> usually he wants to often a amendment to pay for these kind of bills.
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he is usually willing to let us have that vote and move on. i hope that will be the case this time. >> did you have to make a deal with senator schumer and speaker? and why did not not do that first? >> i think the best way to proceed is the way that i out lined. then we'll have a clear indication of where most of the republicans are and they can talk to our colleagues on the other side of the i'll and reai reach an agreement. >> a sentiment about national unity? >> sure, and that will be underscored by the overwhelming bipartisan vote of the house passed bill and by ultimately an overwhelming bipartisan support for yet another bill which will originate in the senate.
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[ inaudible question ] >> -- brought up during the course of this sdufdiscussion a make it come up again? >> the goal is to deal with this emergency. created by this pandemic. and anything that doesn't address that seems to me should not be considered. we're working on trying to deal with this public health crisis, which we are trying to bend the curve on quickly. and anything that addresses plugging that gap for small businesses, and for individuals, hopefully on a short term basis because if the advice dr. fauci and others are giving us is followed, we hope that we'll begin to bend the curve and get back to normal. because the underlying economy before all this came along was in very good shape.
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>> can you talk about the moment that republicans became okay with spending a trillion dollars and what shifted among the party? >> well, i mean i've been through a few of these. i was here at 9/11. i was here during the financial crisis in '08, during the fiscal cliff. we occasionally have these great crises and when they occur, we're able to rise above our normal partisanship and many times our normal positions because these are not ordinary times. this is not an ordinary situation. and so it requires extraordinary measures. >> is there a role for congress to play in helping the states that worry they don't have enough icu beds, enough
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ventilators? >> all of that deals with the substance of measures that we are either about to pass or will pass soon. the contents of which, you know, are being negotiated. >> have you been satisfied with what states are getting from the federal government? >> we're not satisfied with where we are or we wouldn't be turning to yet another bill. i'll take one more because i think that we're getting a little repetitive here. yeah. >> -- say what senator schumer took on -- [ inaudible ] >> what i've said, you can't have 53 people write the bill, right? so what i've done is pick out groups of people to deal with three separate categories and then i've told everyone else that if they have a really good idea, i've told them how to funnel that idea into that particular task force. because this is a herculean task from a legislative point of view
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to try to craft something this significant with 53 people. it can't done. so everyone has a way to funnel in their particular suggestions to one of these three task forces. these task forces will be working with the treasury department and secretary mnuchin and his team to see if we can reach a republican consensus. so we know where we are. my understanding is that senator schumer has laid out where they are. i'm in the process of crafting where we are and then that is the lindsey graham cal time to sit down and make a deal. and that is what we intend to do and we'll do it before we leave here. [ inaudible question ] >> in a sensible way. it doesn't make any -- honestly, it is not particularly
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newsworthy. [ inaudible question ] >> i think i you're getting too far into the weeds. our goal is to try to move forward and take up and pass as soon as we can the bill that has come over from the house. and then you will be hearing from us as we move along crafting the measure that republicans will largely, behind. and then we'll sit down with senator schumer. thanks a lot. >> all right. so mitch mcconnell addressing reporters there up on capitol hill. what he is essentially talking about is he is saying that he and the senate is not allowed to leave washington until they pass this second bill. so he said yes to this house bill, the coronavirus emergency bill, and then in addition to that, they will -- they think the senate -- will write along with the white house their investigation of a bill which he referred to as much larger
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proportions to meet this crisis. he also said that these are extraordinary times and essentially we got to get it together to help the american people. all of this comes after the president just made a critical promise of major financial help sending cash directly to the americans as early as the next two weeks. christina, before we jump on what mitch mcconnell said, we've learned this is the salary cap threshold. for the $250 billion or trillion that would be going to some of you, they are looking to set a cap on individuals, the threshold still under consideration, but individuals would need to make below $100,000, perhaps the benefit could be capped for anyone making more than 75. and then they would receive that $1,000. >> and we'll get a lot more detail over the coming days. and there will be a back and forth between purchasesrepublic democrats.
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and mel wcconnell was basically saying to his party we won't get everything that we want, you can probably assume that there was some kind of discussion with the white house before that press conference. because the white house really -- we saw the treasury secretary come out just before he did and the white house really wants these measures to pass. and part of this is going to be airlines and bailouts, potential relief packages. everybody is very sensitive about the word bailout, but relief packages for the airlines. >> and i was checking my email and enhartsfie even hartsfield jackson, travel down 40%. and so what aare they to do. >> and the fact that people are staying home, kachbs licancelin summer vacations, that is having a real impact. and united said that they could see a loss in this quarter.
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they wrote to congress last night urgently petitioning for relief. but now workers of those airlines you are talking about mechanics, flight attend dachbt s, they are concerned that we'll see the same that we saw in 9/11, that the companies get the bailouts and then the companies -- the financial assistance. but then it doesn't trickle down to the workers. so i was on the phone all morning with union members who are basically like we're not going to let this happen again. we need to make sure that our people are paid and that they have some kind of insurance, they preserve their benefits. because the other problem post-9/11 with the airlines even after the financial assistance, some of them declared bankruptcy and when they did that, they were able to basically force pay cuts and pension cuts down the throats of workers. and now workers are saying that won't happen again. and so they will have to figure
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out how to get it done. >> and work together as the senate majority leader said in warp speed. christina, thank you so much for reading all of that through with me. also this this afternoon,s ago mayor bill de blasio told people in new york city to prepare for a possible -- possible -- shelter in placed on like we're see managemeing e se francisco. and shimon prokupecz, that decision mayor de blasio could come down in the next 24, 48 hours. i see some people out behind you. >> reporter: and i want to show you what is going on behind me. this is in herald square out side of macy's. one of the busiest areas of new york city. a shopping hub of the city. and by all appearances, you would think that this is maybe a regular day for a lot of these
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folks here. we see many people here sitting around each other, in some ways people sitting and eating, having their lunch. macy's behind me still open. we're told that they are going to close tonight around 6:00 or so and they are expected to be closed for at least two weeks. but certainly you understand with scenes like this why the mayor is saying these warnings that officials have been giving for people to stay indoors, don't be around other people. stay away. people are not necessarily listening to that. and so now you have the new york city mayor coming out and saying in the next 48 hour, i'm going to make a decision on whether or not i need to force, somehow force, people to stay inside. the details of that is not entirely clear what it will enstale and what they will do is
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not clear. but keep in find and i think folk w40s as who are watching st get concerned that you can't leave your homes. if you have a reason to leave your home, if there is an emergency, if you are a health care worker, you can leave. but that decision will be a game chachke changer, restrictions that the city likely has never seen before. >> again the possibility, mayor de blasio will make the call within the next 48 hours. thank you. and let's now back up to cl capitol hill for the democratic response and chuck schumer. >> small businesses need it. and we ask for forbearance. the federal government and the banks should not be able to foreclose on a house if you can't pay your mortgage. we've asked that anything that
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is federally backed, student loan, mortgages, and small business loans, that there be a six month forbearance. and finally we believe that we have to mobilize the national guard to help. who will 2350ed afeed and watchs of a medical worker who has to go to work? who will make sure that food is delivered to an elderly person who can't go out, who will make sure that kids get food who are not going to school and getting their school lunches? so we need to employ people do that right away, but we also needed to employ the national guard. so our legislation -- >> so so much of this obviously just at the federal level, but what about the cities in chicago mayor lightfoot is with me now.
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thank you so much for joining me. and i hope that you're a-okay as of now. i do want to ask you about all this discussion about sheltering in place. san francisco's mayor ordered citizens there to shelter in place. and chicago's population is about three times larger than san francisco. is that something that you would seriously consider for chicago? >> we're taking this step by step. and our people over this last week in particular have really absorbed a lot of shocks. closing the schools in the city of chicago, we are moving to just the essential services. people are wondering about closing bars and restaurants, what is the impact to the local economy. we already saw a wave of cancellations of large events. so it is a lot for people to absorb at once. but first and foremost, we will be guided by the data and the science. that is what is driving public policy here in the city of
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chicago. we're looking at a lot of options, at what the modeling shows us when the arc of the coronavirus over the next few weeks and few months. so we'll to whdo what we think the best interests of keeping the public safe but making sure that we continue to shore up our health care system and look out for the front line workers. >> and that is a whole conversation that we've been having and will continue to have. in chicago as we talk about bars, restaurants closing, we shouldn't have even small gatherings, only for essential reasons should you really be out and about. are people heeding those warnings and what are the reproceed kugss if they do not? >> we've been trying to do a lot to educate the public about why we're taking these steps, what the consequence of inaction are. and i'm pleased to say that people in chicago are really rallying. a number of businesses are
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shutting down, people are engaging in telework. so i think that people are being responsive and realizing that this is like no other moment in our recent history. and i'm very proud of the people in the city of chicago. we really haven't seen significant challenges because we've really been trying to bring people along on the journey and educate them about the public health consequences. >> what about schools? i know that your governor ordered the closure of all schools until march 30 ths. that is less than two weeks from today. do you think chicago public schools will actually reopen by then? >> i can't predict two weeks out, but we're certainly preparing ourselves for longer if need be. if we reopen in two weeks, that is great. but we want to make sure that we're prepared for what the future may hold. so we have a lot of con continue against i plans that are in place with our schools, the city government.continue against i plans that are in place with our schools, the city government. our health care system. so we are rallying and looking
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across the broad landscape to make sure that we are prepared to meet this challenge and we are. >> and we were talking about airlines and i think of chicago, it isu united. the ceo of united is urging this administration to act quickly meaning this week, shore up the industry, saying the coronavirus impact is already worse than the days and mocht months following. should the airlines get the cash injections before american workers do you think? >> well, i don't think that it is one versus the other. i think that we have to do both. obviously our airlines are critically important to the economy. not just to the country but of the world. and we need to reach out to them. they are suffering substantially. negative bookings, having a significant liquidity crunch. that thhas to be addressed. they have asked for a $60 billion package and we support that. but we also have to think about those workers, particularly small businesses and the employees there.
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and we are looking at doing some things from a stimulus perspective for the city of chicago -- >> like what? >> well, making sure -- looking to put together a fund to support small businesses. some loans and direct cash infusions to workers. but this problem requires a "b" solution, meaning billions of dollars. no city that i know can muster those kind of resources. we need the federal government to step up and step up quickly. >> yes, warp speed as mitch mcconnell just said. mayor loot foightfoot, thank yo. coming up next, why a sheriff's officer was forced to camp outside a man's home to keep him under quarantine. we'll talk about what the law allows. and plus national guard members actively helping with the coronavirus response in 22 states. many more are on alert. details on exactly what their roles will be, coming up.
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we are back, you are watching cnn. the white house task force on coronavirus made a specific call for help from young people today. listen to this. >> and we're asking the young people to help us with this m mitigation strategy by staying out of the bars and restaurants, really trying to distance yourself. don't get the attitude, well, i'm young, i'm inot vulnerable. you are less vulnerable than i am, but what you might
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in-address ver tein-a inadvertently do is put your loved ones at risk particularly the elderly and the ones with x compromised conditions. >> and dr. hotez, welcome back. speaking of younger people, i know that you are saying italy is seeing younger people getting sick. i thought kids were fairing wet presently, no? >> so let's take it in a couple of steps. first of all what dr. fauci said was absolutely right. we're very concerned about young people, young adults, spreading virus throughout the community. and infecting the population that we know is at the highest risk, older individuals and we're also concerned about health care workers. but there is a few other things to note. that is one think no young actu adults even though on average they are at less risk for serious disease, you will still
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get the outliers that will get seriously ill. so that is an important point. number two, what we're seeing in italy, and again this is not published in the scientific literature, so still kind of the anecdote state, we're hearing about it, that there is an unexpectedly significant number of young adults that are getting seriously ill and in the icu. and this is what is concerning a lot of us because you know, so much of what we've taken about this epidemic were based on what we've seen in china. which had a very clear pattern of overwhelmingly adults. but what we're seeing now in italy looks like it is a little bit different. so it is giving us pause for concern. is the epidemic in the united states going to look more like china or italy. and it is too early to say. so i think that is one of the drivers maybe for why being so
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aggressive in getting the bars and restaurants closed, that there is a heightened concern about the young adults. >> and as fauci said, i'd rather be overly cautious and then on the back end be grateful and know that that was overly so, just so we can flatten the curve. >> beer swe're seeing 25, 30-ye adults in the icu. not so much the kids yet, but occasionally it does happen as well. but it is that unexpectedly twist that we're seeing in italy that is giving a lot of people because f pause for concern. >> and the president basically gave the green light to the army core to build more hospital beds as health officials have been sounds the alarm on stockpile shortages.beds as health offici been sounds the alarm on stockpile shortages. what supplies are beingacutely
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needed? >> it depends on the state level and the wbig one everyone is concerned about is ventilator tos. because they will be absolutely necessary. >> because you that is keeping someone breathing. >> absolutelyyou that is keepin someone breathing. >> absolutely. and governor cuomo has been out in front in saying that if some of the projeceejections are cor we will not have enough ventilators. and one thing important to mention, a lot of this is based on mathematical models simand assigns the assumptions are true and sometimes they are not. so you are hearing about the maximal levels of numbers -- max num nums rather than some of the lower estimates. so we really don't know. but boy, that is the last thing that you want to be caught short on is having adequate numbers of
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ventila ventilators. so you are seeing them trying to get the estimates of the need and also this is -- on the science side, it is really accelerating the hunt to have some intervention ready to go in case the numbers really start to climb. so there is a lot of activity going around. a new antiviral drug and -- >> we just -- forgive me for jumping in. we talked to a person out of the 45 who with has volunteered for this trial of a potential vaccine for coronavirus. wh why, we' doctor, we'll continue the conversation another day. appreciate your time. and are more changes in american culture including hour movie chains are distributing films and changers to your uber and lyft riderides. and amazon is hiring amid the demand because everyone is at
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. the white house and congress are now locked in discussions over the massive $1 trillion plan to keep the u.s. economy afloat as the coronavirus forces cancellations and closures nationwide. with me now, democratic congresswoman chrissy houlahan of pennsylvania, a member of the house foreign affairs and armed services committee. thank you so much for being with me. and i hope you are well through all of this. >> i am, thank you. >> just first, is there anything that you don't support in what the white house is offering in terms of the trillion dollars? >> i think that it remains to be seen how it will all come together and it clearly is a very fluid situation. when i last checked in actually when i heard coming out of the senate is that the senate was actually going to take up the bill that we sent them late last week and they were going to pass that and in fact that there would be a third bill. so this is a very dynamic situation and i'm absolutely in support of making sure that we first take care of the people this is what our second bill that we passed in the house
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does. and then that we move into t making sure that we're shoring up our businesses as well. >> steven mnuchin said that the administration is talking to congress about end is being cash to americans over the next two weeks just to soften the blow. do you support this and how would that money -- how would that be distributed? >> i think that the devil will be in the details but i do support a short term cash infuse. but i also think that we need to be thinking not only of the short term which i think will be an immediate help for people who are in acute pain, but i also know that we need to think about the mid and long term implications. i did two telephone town halls today, one with my community at large with nearly 4,000 people on the line and the second with 1,000 businesses on the line. and everybody is concerned and so we just need to be very ta
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strategic. and the cash infusions seem to have bipartisan support. >> and one piece of all of this, and you are a veteran, a veteran tweeted 100 tests total for a v.a. health system that serves 9 million vets, half of which are over 65. this is not getting enough national attention. the president and congress must be pressed on it. and so to you, what can you, what can congress do to help the veterans get the tests they need? >> and thank you for pointing that out. one thing remarkable about the news cycles is how rapidly things are that i thinkiare chah information we're sharing. i think of this as a hive mind mentality and i can absolutely tell you if help is needed with
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the v.a.s, i will be swarming towards that area. but i can also tell that you help is needed in my own community. and we also have tests in the hundreds as well. and we're hearing that there are places where there are opportunities for thousands of tests to be done in a day and we definitely need to make sure that there is equity and that we understand where tests are available and how they are available. >> congresswoman houlahan, americans are relying on you. thank you so much and stay healthy as you fight the good fight. coming up next, amazon is hiring an additional 100,000 employees just to keep up with the surge in online purchases. we'll take a closer look at how small businesses are fairing. and new details on a new new york city contemplating a shelter in placed on, a dramatic move amid this outbreak. before we talk about tax-smart investing, what's new?
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as we are all forced to rely even more heavily on deliveries, amazon is seeing a surge in online orders and it's planning to hire an additional 100,000 full and part-time workers to keep up with the rising demand. amazon says it will raise pay by $2 an hour. you've been outside talking to small business owners, how they're weathering this coronavirus storm. what are they telling you?
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>> reporter: hi, brooke, these small businesses are definitely not amazon. they cannot weather this storm as much as these larger corporations. they're in dire straits, many of them looking at their bank accounts and having to make tough decisions. we talked to two small business owners and found out how they're coping. >> it's scary, it really is. i wouldn't want anybody to be in this position. >> reporter: larry birnbaum says he's losing $100,000 a month. >> i've never seen anything like this, everything grinds to a halt. >> reporter: the factories in china where he gets his wholesale light bulbs are closed because of coronavirus. what percentage of your business comes from china? >> 95%. >> reporter: president trump announced low interest small business loans. >> these low interest loans will help small businesses. >> reporter: as part of the $50
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billion economic aid package. would that be of interest to you? >> possibly. but again, you just said the magic word, "interest." so i'm paying interest on that loan and paying interest on the credit line loan. and it just depletes everything. >> reporter: the national retail federation revised its initial assessment of the virus' impact, saying it's, quote, expected to have a longer and larger impact on imports and major u.s. retail container ports than previously believed. and a global slowdown will affect small and mid-sized companies acutely. birnbaum worries about his nine employees. >> i will take out of my savings and pay them, you know, until the day that there's nothing else to go. >> reporter: two miles away is mdr supplies, another wholesale business with 35 employees. down to their last reserves.
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how long before this gets sent out? >> 45 to 60 days is how long this product will last. >> reporter: and then what happens after that? >> we hopefully get more product or we're in trouble. >> reporter: ron malkinson sells to construction companies and contractors. he's ordering as much additional product as he can before it's too late, to the tune of $70,000 and climbing. >> i'm ordering ahead of myself, stretching myself, knowing that in the future i may not be able to get goods for a period of time. >> reporter: he's hopeful coronavirus won't mean an end to his business. best of my memo birnbaum is not sure. >> there's no light at the end of the tunnel. >> reporter: these are just two of the thousands of small businesses that are suffering during this time, brooke. but i want to leave on a good note here, we're at a food distribution company that is the
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middleman between food producers and grocery stores. they are seeing a very high demand here, up 50%, brooke. they say they want to put americans at ease, there is no food shortage, and this, like amazon, is one of those companies that is going to be hiring americans during this very, very troubling time, brooke. >> a little bit of a silver lining to all of this. vanessa yurkevich, thank you. uber is making changes to their policy, lyft is as well. some drivers say to an afford not to work.
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with movie theaters around the world closing, universal pictures is making some of its recent releases like "the invisible man" available on demand this week. ride share companies are changing policies, ube and her lyft have suspended the fopool option where multiple passengers can jump in and share a care. uber eats is still running. >> i have my 91 proof alcohol, you know, it kills everything in a chemical lab, it will kill everything in this car. >> i live without safety nets. as a result, you start your day, and you think to yourself, is today going to be the day where something bad happens and my
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financial life is going to be completely derailed? if i don't work, i can't pay my bills, period. >> uber is offering two weeks of sick day pay for drivers who test positive for coronavirus. that is it for me. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you for being here. "the lead with jake tapper" starts now. president trump says he's angry with americans who are not social distancing. "the lead" starts right now. the mayor of the nation's largest city tells residents to be prepared to possibly shelter in place. this as health officials say we might not know for weeks if these extreme measures are working. and i'll talk to a mother of a 3-week-old about social distancing. plus the president's new tone on the pandemic. what's behind it?


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