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ringing ) - get details on this state program call or visit hello, everyone. i'm kate bolduan. thank you so much for joining me. you have to behave as if you have the coronavirus. that is the message now from dr. sanjay gupta. that is also the message today from the u.s. surgeon general, presume you're infected until proven otherwise, essentially. that is where we are right now with this virus. listen here to sanjay gupta. >> i'm not someone who likes to motivate through fear, inspire through fear, but we -- there's lessons staring us right in the face when it comes to this. and you know, for a country that
does so many things well, and i think our public health system at times can do so many things well. right now, i think we're woefully underprepared. and i don't know what our -- the talks you and i are going to have next week, i don't know what we're going to be talking about and i'm frightened to talk about that right now. it's within all of us. how i behave affects your health. how you behave affects my health. never have we been so dependent on each other, at least in my lifetime, and we should rise to that occasion, i think. >> right now, we're standing by to hear from the white house. the coronavirus task force set to update the nation once again, we will bring it to you live when it begins. stand by for that. everyone is standing by to hear if the administration will be stepping up its guidelines or putting in place new restrictions. there is one major change already today. president trump just announcing this morning that the u.s./canada border will be
temporarily closed to any nonessential traffic, as he put it. this as expected, the number of coronavirus cases is skyrocketing. in just a week, based on numbers compiled from cnn reporting, there are almost 5,000 new cases. you can see as you see on the graph on the screen, how fast day to day the virus is spreading or the accounting of the virus is catching up to how far it has spread. in just the last 24 hours, the number jumped by over 1,000. so right now, the total number of cases is at more than 6,000 across all 50 states and washington, d.c. 112 people have died from the virus. out front in this effort to slow the spread, city and state leaders across the country. in northern california, more counties are joining san francisco's shelter in place order, meaning nearly 8 million people are required to stay largely inside their homes. so let's start there. cnn's dan simon is in san francisco. he's back with me. dan, a lot of people right now
are right to be wondering what shelter in place, what the order really means, because as you have been showing, there have been -- there are people out still. as you showed yesterday and today. >> right. i think part of the problem, kate, may be with the terminology. when you hear that term, shelter in place, you might think of it approaching tornado or you might think of a wildfire where you shouldn't leave. so what you're dealing with here in san francisco is this term shelter in place, but there are so many exemptions. for instance, people can go to the supermarket. they can go to the gas station, and what you're really seeing is a lot of people just going outside and getting some fresh air. walking their dog or ride their bikes or go for a jog. all of those things are allowed in the order. it's unambiguous. you can debate the merits of the order and whether people should actually be doing those things, but nonetheless, the city said
those things are entirely permissible. i want you to hear now what we're hearing from some people as you sort of roam the streets and hear what's on their minds. take a look. >> it is kind of creepy in a way, because usually it would be bustling with activities, and it's such a beautiful day, but nobody is out. >> i think people are going to go stir crazy. i'm on day two and i need to get outside and walk around. >> i'm not going to work, my kid's not going to school, my wife's not going to work. we're thinking of getting out of the city. >> we have to figure out how our merchants are going to survive this. >> whether or not you want to call this a shelter in place, i can tell you people do seem to be complying in general with the spirit of the order. because when you go to some of these high-volume areas they are deserted, and traffic on the bridges is light. so i think for the most part, people are doing what they can to sort of follow the guidelines and try to keep social distancing from one another. that said, yes, you will see
some people out and about on the sidewalks going for their morning jogs, riding their bikes, things of that nature. kate. >> looking pretty quiet behind you right now, that's for sure. thank you so much. >> so here in new york, people are waiting to find out if they'll be under a similar lockdown order or restrictions as san francisco, as dan was laying out there. besides the current closures and restrictions, new york city's mayor is urging people to prepare for a shelter in place order in the next couple days. new york's governor says that's not likely to happen. the number of cases in new york is alarming, though. more than 1600 cases as of now and about 900 of those in new york city alone. things are changing quickly in this city, that's for sure. brynn gingras joins me with much more on this. what really is under consideration? are you hearing? what could, would the next step be? >> yeah, there's a number of steps that at least the governor of new york says he's considered at this point.
however, he's been emphatic that a shelter in place, a lockdown, a quarantine, that is not the case. listen, i want to underscore what dan simon said in san francisco because it's happening here on this coast. it's all in the branding. how it's being described in different cities, it all means the same thing. if you don't have to go outside, then don't. of course, you're allowed to go outside. it's not like government officials are locking the door and keeping you inside, but if you go out, follow the rules. don't go out if you don't have to and keep social distancing or else this is going to continue to spread. i was talking to one official who told me it's all in the mindset. the terms are trying to change the mindsote of people that they have to change their habits. that's the point here and the dinchs we're also seeing here in new york between the governor and the mayor. the mayor says that we need to have shelter in place in new york city. and he even talked about it today on the "today" show. take a listen. >> what i was saying to people is, get ready for the possibility. it's a decision we would only make with the state of new york,
of course. but people have to realize at this point that this disease is going to put many, many people, thousands and tens of thousands of people's lives in danger. and we're going to have to do things very differently, and if we even get to shelter in place, we're going to have to come up with huge new approaches to make sure that people have enough food and medicine because they sure as hell don't have income right now. >> and of course, the governor of new york, as the mayor admitted, he's the one who has to sign off if you're going to shut down the city of new york of 8 million people, but that's not on the table as of right now. of course, i do want to make it clear as dan was, times square, i was talking to someone who is usually here handing out tickets. usually this place is packed. people are adhering to the stay inside your homes, but of course, more needs to be done. that's what's possible, maybe more businesses are shut down, maybe there are more rules in effect, but as of now, no lockdown is going to happen here
in new york city. >> thank you. >> so as knlengzed at the top of the show, we're waiting for an update from the white house coronavirus task force. president trump also tweeted this morning he is going to discuss important news coming today from the food and drug administration. and shortly after tweeting that out, he also tweeted that the u.s. and canada will temporarily be closing their shared border to nonessential traffic. let's get over to the white house. cnn's john harwood is standing by. what are you hearing about all this this morning? >> well, what we know is that the president has consistently tried to suggest that a vaccine will come faster than it actually will. anthony fauci, leading infectious disease expert in the united states, says it will be 12 to 18 months, so don't know what the president was alluding to on the fda. we know that some trials have begun to be under way, but it's a long way from a trial to vaccine that is available to people. so not sure what that news is going to be about.
but when the president says he's going to have a news conference, if recent history or form holds for recent history, he'll walk out in the news conference which is scheduled for 11:30, and talk off the top, maybe take some questions, talk about the closure of the canadian border, and also those efforts to try to get the stimulus legislation, kate, passed through the congress. we have got the senate on track to pass the house bill today. white house with a new request for $45 billion to respond to coronavirus. and then you've got these ongoing talks between democrats and republicans on a huge fiscal stimulus in the form of direct checks, maybe some payroll tax as well. payroll tax relief, to try to sustain people so they can pay their rent, buy their groceries, keep their families whole during this crisis while we try to get our arms around it. >> yeah. plenty of questions to be asked. hopefully we'll get some answers when they come out, hopefully
around 11:30. john will be standing by. thank you so much. >> as we wait to hear from the president, the coronavirus pandemic is already causing major shortages at some hospitals. for weeks, doctors and nurses and hospital systems have been sounding the alarm that they will be running out of personal protective equipment. in short, they call them ppes, an acronym, but we're talking about masks, gloves, gowns, everything they need to protect themselves as minimum in order to protect you while treating coronavirus patients. remember yesterday, we told you about a georgia hospital system saying that it had ripped through five months of protective gear in just six days. they're trying to sound the alarm. joining me right now is the president and ceo, scott steiner, of phoebe putney public health system in southwest georgia. thank you for coming in. >> thank you for having me. >> so can you first, scott, help people understand why your teams had to go through five months of supplies in six days.
>> yeah, really started last tuesday. we have been standing up our command center for quite some time, waiting for this. we have been waiting for the coronavirus to hit the united states. we have been overbuying supplies, but until it truly does, you don't quite realize what you're going to be going through. we began to see our influx of patients last tuesday and last wednesday. and we didn't -- what we know today is, to your point, we have gone through five months, now six months worth of supplies in less than a week. and we are scrambling. we're scrambling, even to the point where these are n-95 masks. we have got three days of supply of n-95 masks on hand. in order to preserve these and get them to last longer, we have a team of people sewing masks together. this is surgical sheeting, and this is our prototype. we have about 3,000 of these made.
we believe we can make 200,000 of them. it will take a few weeks, but this is kind of what we're having to do because we don't know when the next shipment is coming. >> i don't want to interrupt, but that's amazing, the lengths you're having to go to. i saw this mentioned in a press release. you have employees sitting in conference rooms now as you can show folks that one more time because there was a graphic in front of it, now putting together alternative masks in order to explain it to folks so you don't have to throw out an n-95. you could kind of extend the life of an n-95 mask? >> the n-95 is a filtered mask. this keeps our staff safe. we want our patients safe and our staff safe. this is be worn for an extended period of time, but if it becomes soiled, if we believe there are droplets on it, it should be discarded. normally it is a discardable item after each use. we believe by being able to cover it with these masked made
of surgical sheeting, we can extend the life of these. instead of going through eight or nine or ten a day, maybe an employee can go through two or three, because again, we're running short. and we're concerned about running out. if we can't keep our employees safe, there will be no one to care for the patients. >> that's exactly right. i will say, this is personal for everybody, but this is personal for me. i have two doctors in my family. one of them, my father, who is 70 years old. if they do not have this protective gear, can they be safe? >> they cannot be safe. if you have a patient that has positive for covid-19, they are highly contagious. our employees would not be safe without this ppe. i mean, it is critical. >> where are the supplies? you have said that you have been buying them up. what is the -- other than having to unbelievably in the united states of america, you have folks in your hospital now trying to sew masks together for
your health care providers. what is the other option? what is your ask of the state? what is your ask of folks in washington who are seeing this and maybe now can grasp, get their hands around and grasp what a dire situation you're actually up against? >> that's right. every hospital is looking at how many days on hand you have of masks, gowns, gloves, eye protection. we have bought eye protection off the shelves of local stores. we have reached out, we have an incredibly supportive community, and i will tell you, our political, our governmental leaders, i know they're all supportive. they really want to do the right thing, but i can tell you, we were just looking at a sourcing these out of a company out of mexico, and they want $7 per mask. they have a million of them in hand. and this is a mask that normally would cost us 58 cents. but i would tell you, we're probably going to go ahead and take them for $7 each because we're that desperate. >> wow. you have also been sounding the alarm on another aspect of this
crisis. the still lack of test availability and how long it's also taking to get test results back. what are you hearing about what the hold-up is still? >> you know, we're not hearing really much. you know, we have been using a large commercial lab. i would imagine they are inundated. there's probably not much more to it than just a volume and, you know, a supply and demand aspect to it, but we've got -- we've got as of this morning, we have nine positive patients, 21 negative patients, but 400 that were pending. some of them greater than six days we're waiting on results. >> did you say 400? >> 400 pending, and we're probably testing more than 100 each day. now, those are not in the hospital. let me clarify that. 75 are in the hospital, most of them are at home, but we have to get these results for peace of mind for people, for our peace of mind of our health care
workers and our doctors. but that's our big push, we need more testing, and just the quickness of it. you know, that just has to improve. >> time is of the essence on all fronts we're discussing right here. getting protective gear for health care providers and getting the test results back so folks know what they're up against. scott, thank you for come in. thank you for what you're doing. amazing innovation amongst your staff. i hope a lot of hospital systems are seeing what you're doing and looking to do it themselves to save the resources they have. thank you. >> thanks for getting the word out. >> thank you so much. unbelievable. >> coming up for us, wild swings in the stock market yet again today, as a new report says treasury secretary steve mnuchin is warning that without intervention from washington, the unemployment rate could be hitting 20%. we'll be back.
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skyrocket to 20%. he's asking congress for a $1 trillion stimulus package in response. it could include a plan to send checks of possibly $1,000 directly to americans. this is an economic story, of course, but this is so much more. a human story, on all levels. joining me right now, mark zandi, chief economist for moodies analytics for some perspective on this. great to have you here. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> what does 20% unemployment look like and mean? >> ugh. we haven't seen that since the great depression of the 1930s. and of course, if 20% of people are unemployed, that means probably that are folks that aren't getting the hours they would like, their wages are getting cut. it represents just tremendous financial pain. so, you know, it's even hard to imagine. >> that is a really important piece of that, how many more people are getting underpaid and
beyond, and the ripple effects of that. do you think that's possible, with what you're looking at? >> i think that's an overstatement, but probably not by much. i mean, if he's saying, the secretary of treasury is saying look, if we do nothing, if we just stand still and don't respond, this is the kind of economy we're going to get, it's not 20%. it's going to be -- doesn't really matter. it's going to be so uncomfortable, painful, and if that's what it takes to light a fire under congress and the administration to get something done, then so be it. so is it 20%? i don't know, but it's high enough that they need to act. >> i have so many stories. you have heard so many stories of people already having to make tough choices. preparing to close down businesses because they don't have any income coming in now and have children out of school and they won't be able to afford child care anymore. for those folks, how bad is it looking? i mean, what do people need to
plan for? and how do they with the uncertainty of we don't know where the end of the tunnel is on this? >> no, no, it's going to be very tough. it's already very tough. just a year ago, the federal reserve ran a survey and found 40% of americans didn't have enough cash in their bank account to manage through a minor emergency, something that cost a few hundred bucks. this is more than a minor emergency. this is going to cost more than a few hundred bucks. that's why we come back to policymakers and lawmakers. they need to provide support, income support. to folks that are becoming unemployed, the folks who can't get to work because their kids are home at school and also more broadly, to people with significant hardship. it's really about getting cash into the hands of those folks very quickly. >> what is your take, then, on this $1,000 check potentially for every adult american? >> i think that's a good start. you know, we may and probably will need more, but i think that's a place to start.
a nice round number. i mean, you're talking about in total, a support that comes to about a trillion dollars. i think that's a number we should shoot for. so not only, kate, about the dollars and cents, and obviously, that's really important, but it's also about confidence. people are nervous and they want to know for sure that the government has their back. that's why wehave government, in time of crisis, government steps up and provides the kind of support that we need. in a big, large package with $1,000 check, $trillion in total, i think it would send a strong signal that, look, hey, we're here. we understand what's going on. we're going to act, and this may not be the end of the support if this virus continues to drag on. >> the signals are so important for everyone at home, for investors, for markets, for everything. when you're at such a tipping point that it feels like we're in. is there something specific first of all businesses that you think can be done, should be considered? i mean, if the small business sector is wiped out, what does
it mean for the economy in the long run? >> yeah, totally agree. so just to give you a sense of it, companies that employ fewer than 500 employees, it's called a small business, they account for nearly half of all the jobs in the country. and those businesses are going to be under extreme pressure. they have the same cash problem that households are going to have because they don't have a big cash cushion. so yes, there are a few things we can do. for example, one idea would be a payroll tax rebate. every employer, small or large, has to pay payroll tax for their employees. well, instead of them paying, let the government give them a check equal to the amount of payroll tax that have put into the system since the beginning of the year. if you live in an area that is a disaster area, disrupted by the virus and you're being shut down, you get twice or three times that. because that system is already in place, that mechanism is already there, they can use that and get a check in the checking account of the small businesses very rapidly. so that's an idea. that's something that i think
they're starting to consider as part of this larger stimulus package. >> you're hitting on something that is important here, the speed. there's no time to start up a new agency, a new system of accounting to reach out and find. it neeldz to be a way to work within the existing systems to pump it in and pump it in quickly. that's very clear. and you do hear that in the urgency of what mnuchin is trying to get at with lawmakers right now. mark, always great to have you. thank you so much. >> sure thing. >> appreciate it. >> coming up for us, yet another nursing home is now facing another crisis after 22 people test positive for the virus. what should families be doing to protect their loved ones in long-term care facilities now? we'll be right back. only tylenol® rapid release gels have laser drilled holes. they release medicine fast, for fast pain relief. tylenol®.
we're going to jump in here. new york governor andrew cuomo giving an update, holding a news conference on the coronavirus. >> projections can change or you can change projections. but that's the problem we're dealing with. so what is the plan of action? flatten the curve, flatten the curve, flatten the curve. reduce the spread. how do you reduce the spread? testing, isolate the positives. but frankly, more move towards density reduction. just reduce the number of people in contact. second, increase the current hospital capacity. hospitals currently have 53,000 beds. how do you get more beds in your hospital? third, identify new hospital
beds. how do we increase the supply of hospital beds? well, that's very hard when you're only talking about 45 days. so what? this is new york. there's nothing we can't do. and do all three of those things simultaneously. which is what we're doing. identifying new hospital beds, we met yesterday with all the hospital administrators. i spoke to them. i said we have to increase the number of beds you have in your hospital. we're going to waive all the department of health regulations for the time being. department of health says how many beds you can have in a room, the space between the beds, all good regulations, by the way. but waive them so we can get more beds into existing hospitals. we also have to make sure those beds are staffed. so more staff, reserve staff, we're reaching out to retired nurses, retired doctors, nursing
schools, medical schools to build up a reserve capacity. because also, you have to anticipate that some hospital workers will get sick during this. so you need a reserve capacity for that basis. how do you create new hospital beds? this is probably the greatest challenge. first, convert facilities and take people who are in current hospital beds and move them into a converted facility. who need a lower level of care. second, the federal partnership, which is key. and as we discussed yesterday, the state cannot do this on its own. we don't have the capacity. we don't have a workforce. we're very ambitious. we're very aggressive, but the most important thing in life to know is to know what you cannot do. know your limitations.
we can't build new hospitals in 45 days. the federal government can be extremely helpful here. and we need the federal government's help. i had a conversation with the president yesterday. it was an open and honest conversation. we have always had a very good dialogue, even when we don't agree, we have always had a very good dialogue. but the president and i agreed yesterday, look, we're fighting the same war. and this is a war. and we're in the same trench. and i have your back, you have my back. and we're going to do everything we can for the people of the state of new york. and the president agreed to that. i agreed to that, and his actions demonstrate that he is doing that. i have had a number of conversations with white house staff who are working on this. i had a conversation with the secretary of the army, president sent the army corps of engineers
here this afternoon. i'll be meeting with them this afternoon. i spoke to the president this morning about specific actions the president is going to take. i can tell you, he is fully engaged on trying to help new york. he's being very creative. and very energetic, and i thank him for his partnership. as i said, the secretary of defense, they can be very helpful, the army corps of engineers can be very helpful. and fema can be very helpful. and we're speaking with all of them, and we're working with all of them as we speak. and we have been around the clock and all through the night. so if commissioner zucker looks a little tired today, that's why. young people have no stamina. i like to say. the president, i spoke to this morning. he's going to be making arrangements to send up this hospital ship. which is called the u.s.
comfort. it has about 1,000 rooms on it. it has operating rooms. and the president is going to dispatch the comfort to us. it will be in new york city harbor. this will be an extraordinary step, obviously. but it will -- it's literally a floating hospital which will add capacity and the president said that he would dispatch that immediately. the president also spoke about the mobile hospitals that the federal government has, and where we could set up mobile hospitals, where they come in with a mobile hospital that has a capacity of 200 people, 250 people. i told the president that we would do everything we need to do to expedite siting of those facilities, and we're talking about a couple of locations now. but that is also specific and
concrete help. and something that we can get done within the 45 days. at the same time, as i said, we're proceeding on all these tracks simultaneously. density reduction, we have taken a number of dramatic steps, but i think they are necessary steps. you have seen the curve. we can't handle the number of cases in the health care system at that current rate of spread. we have to get it down. we have taken dramatic steps. i have said and i'm going to repeat today, i'm asking all businesses voluntarily if it is at all possible, work from home. and have your people work from home. we also have already announced a mandatory requirement that all schools are closed state-wide. a mandatory requirement that no more than 50% of any
government's employees can show up for work. essential personnel, yes, but no more than 50% of city local governments. we also have a mandatory requirement, as you know, of a tristate agreement. pleased to announce pennsylvania is going to be joining our state coalition, and that's very exciting. because none of these measures work unless you have a large enough geographic basis. it makes no sense for a county to put its own rule into effect or a city to put its own rule into effect because people will just move. if i can't go to a bar in queens, i'll drive to nassau and go to a bar. if i can't go to a restaurant in albany, i'll drive to somewhere else. if i come up with a rule for the
entire state, people will drive to new jersey or connecticut or pennsylvania. and that's why the first ever we have this state-wide coalition, and i want to thank connecticut governor ned lumotand new jersey governor phil murphy, and pennsylvania governor tom wolf, who have been great colleagues, and i thank them very much. i'm asking all businesses to work from home. but today, we're announcing a mandatory state-wide requirement that no business can have more than 50% of their workforce report to work outside of their home. no more than 50% of the workforce can report for work outside of the home. that is a mandatory requirement. i'm going to do that by executive order. and that is state-wide.
that will exempt essential services. meaning food, food delivery, pharmacies, health care, shipping, supplies, et cetera. society has to function. people stay at home, people still need to be able to order food, et cetera. they need to be able to shop. so you have to keep those essential services running. i understand that this is a burden to businesses. i get it. i understand the impact on the economy. but in truth, we're past that point as a nation. there is going to be an impact on the economy. not just here in new york but all across the country, and we're going to have to deal with that crisis, but let's deal with one crisis at a time, and let's deal with the crisis at hand. the crisis at hand is a public health crisis. once we get past that, then we'll deal with the economic crisis. there's an old italian
expression that basically says, rough translation, a rich person is a person who has their health. everything else you can figure out. and that's true for society also. let's maintain the public health. we'll figure out the economy afterwards. we have consulted with a number of business organizations, and i want to thank them for their cooperation and their receptivity. the business council, the retail council, the partnership for new york city, they're the main business groups in this state. they understand the concern and the crisis that we're dealing with, and they're helping communicate the message. and i thank them for their understanding and for their civic consciousness in this matter. you can see from the number of cases why we're taking these
actions. we are responding to science and data. there's no politics here. the health commissioner and health officials advise us of what we should be doing. the number of cases is way up. the number of cases is up because we're taking more tests. but the numbers are going up. hence the increased actions to reduce the spread, the density reduction. you see total positive cases, 2300. new positive cases, 1,000. you see the number of counties that now have cases spreading, just as you see it spreading across the united states of america. this is just a metaphor for the entire country. you see our number of tests has gone way up. we have now tested over 14,000 people. that's a dramatic increase. and again, that's why you see
the number of positive cases going up. we have the highest number of cases in the united states. again, by a significant margin. we're now about double the next state. i don't know how much of that is due to our increased testing, but we are a more dense environment. we have more people than washington state. so science would dictate, mathematics would dictate, you'll have a higher rate of spread. current hospitalizations of 549. again, that is the number we watch because that's the number that are flowing into the health care system. that's the rate of cases flowing into the health care system. 23%. we had 20% yesterday. we had 14% last week. so the number of
hospitalizations is going up. and again, this is all about the capacity of the health care system. and it always has been. again, perspective, perspective, perspective. i understand the anxiety. i understand the fear. you look at the pictures on television, empty grocery shelves, it's easy to get caught up in the emotion. but you also have to remember the facts of the situation. right? and the facts are still very clear. we know what this virus does. we know who it is. we know where it lives. we know what it does to people. it's been tracked since china. 200,000 cases have been tracked. 8,000 people have passed away. 80,000 have recovered. 113,000 are still pending. we even know what it's done in the state of new york. of the numbers we have seen in
new york since it started, 108 people have already recovered and been discharged from the hospital. the first case we had in new york, which was the health care worker and her husband who returned from iran and tested positive, she never went into a hospital. she was at home quarantined. she has now been recovering at home. she actually took a second coronavirus test and tested negative. okay. so 39-year-old female. came home, was at home, was on quarantine, recovered. two weeks later, tests negative, which means she has resolved the virus in her body. right. and now tests negative.
and as we have said, 80% of the people, that's what will happen. she was never hospitalized. and she resolved two weeks later. that's what people have to keep in mind. and look, this is a health issue. it's a public health crisis. but more than that, i'm telling you, worse than the virus is the fear that we're dealing with. and the rumors and how they spread, and i'm going to be quarantined. i'm going to be locked out, they're not going to allow me to leave my house. i better stock up on groceries. that's not going to happen. deep breath. we know what is going to happen here. people will get ill. they will resolve. people who are vulnerable, we have to be careful. but the panic and the fear is
wholly disconnected from the reality. the only way i know to communicate it is just what i experience in my own life. and i get those calls every day. and people are just disconnected from the reality of the situation. one of my sisters called me yesterday. i have to have my daughter tested for coronavirus. why? she has a fever. she's sick. she has flu-like symptoms. i said, has she been exposed to someone positive? no, not that we know of. did she travel to a hot spot? no. i said, then there's no test. and there's no reason for a test. leave her home. help her. be careful that she doesn't infect you. but that's it. and flu-like symptoms and a
couple of weeks she'll feel better and she'll get on with it. the one thing i said to my sister is don't let her go near mom. that's my mother. my mother is in a different situation. again, senior citizen, but senior citizens, compromised immune system, underlying illnesses. don't let her go near mom. otherwise, treat her as if she has the flu. well, what do i do? what is self-quarantine? self-quarantine is what we used to do when somebody had the flu, right? my father would say, go in the room. stay there until you feel better. right? that's crude self-quarantine. don't get infected. stay away. throw things away. use hand sanitizer, et cetera. that's the reality of the situation. i get the drama. i get the anxiety.
but all in moderation and all in connection with the facts. questions, comments? >> a few details. the central services, does that include building supply stores like home depot? when does this order take effect? then for the doctor, obviously, health care workers are exposed. they're going to get sick, they're going to resolve. if you have been 14 days and you're resolved, do you get to return to the health care workforce? i guess governor start, maybe. >> jimmy, i'll answer your question, but i forgot one thing. i want to show you the ventilator. our main scramble now is for ventilators. and everybody says, well, what are the ventilators? what are the ventilators? this is a respiratory illness. we need ventilators which will actually -- the ventilators
actually help people breathe. this is the machine you often see in hospitals. it's commonplace in hospitals. it's just the number that we need is much higher. and any manufacturers of ventilators, this is a national need. every state across the country needs it. i'm talking to governors all across the state. ge makes them, philips makes them. but this is the number one device that we need because we can create more beds. but it's literally the supply of ventilators now. and countries all across the globe are all trying to get these devices. so that the question on after 14 days if you test negative can you go back to work? you can go back to work. >> is she? >> i don't know.
>> then for you, building supply stores and when does this take effect? >> we'll have a full list of essential services. i believe -- i don't want to get into any specific business now, but we'll list all the essential services. >> do you have a timetable how long these restrictions are going to last for parents, small businesses trying to plan? >> no, but all of the restrictions are state-wide. they will track the trajectory of the disease. if we get that spread down, jesse, if we slow the spread and can handle it in the health care system, we'll relax them as soon as possible. past data, china, south korea, shows that if you take more dramatic actions sooner, you actually reduce the spread and you recover faster. so more dramatic on the front side, the faster you get out of
it. i have also spoken with elected officials all across the state. i have told them that this 50% mandatory requirement was going to be in place. and we have heard nothing but support. i want to thank all of the local officials and i want to thank them for their cooperation. >> speaking of dramatic action, what about shelter in place? can you explain why you're resistant to that and why it's no longer on the table for you? >> shelter in place, first, would have to be done -- i don't believe any policy works unless the geographic footprint is large enough. i'm from queens, new york. if you tell me shelter in place and i'm living in queens, i'll go stay with my sister in west chester and go out and have a good time. so, it can't just be new york city. it would have to be long island, rockland, westchester, and the rest of the state. also, shelter in place, you
close down your health care system. you close down your food system. you close down your transportation system. [ inaudible question ] >> in the bay area, certainly essential services -- >> well, it depends how you do it, and you close down businesses. you close down all businesses when you do shelter in place. so, that doesn't make sense to me because people have to eat, travel, et cetera. doing it this way, all workforce, 50%, except essential services. we'll see if that slows the spread. if it doesn't slow the spread, then we will reduce the number of workers even further. that 50% can be calibrated. now, you could get to a point where you almost -- you could get to 100% of workers stay home, besides essential
services. that's what italy wound up doing. and we're at 50% now. but i would never shut down food, transportation, essential services. >> governor -- >> yesterday -- >> new revenue forecast, as you know. worst-case scenario, $7 billion hit the state is facing. will that require a cut in spending as you had initially proposed in the budget? will this mean less spending for schools, for instance? >> that's something we're going to have to work out in the budget. but as i said, you know, the original estimates we did were before any of this, and they are, any reasonable person would say, too high. so we have to do a budget on the best projections we can do and go from there. >> does that mean it's time to look at raising revenue? you were reluctant to do that in your proposed budget. now do you have to raise taxes? >> look, you have businesses closing. you have people out of work. i don't think now is the time to tell people we're going to raise your taxes.
>> governor, yesterday you said that you. [ inaudible ] >> this afternoon. >> and what are you looking to -- [ inaudible ] >> army corps of engineers -- well, let's say federal writ large, okay, because you have dod, you have fema, you have the army corps of engineers -- additional hospital beds, the mobile hospitals, helping to retrofit existing buildings. those are all within the per view of the federal government. >> is media considered an essential service? i know it's a tough question to be asking. and do we fall under the 50% umbrella? >> that is a very good question. we have to ponder that. i think -- are they an essential service? depends who you would ask. i personally consider it an essential service, but i don't know if that's a global definition. >> are you investigating a cluster in borough park, brooklyn? >> we've heard about that and
we're looking into that. >> is it a cluster or do you believe it's a result of -- [ inaudible ] >> well, there's two possibilities. there's a lot of testing that's going on, or potentially one or multiple individuals that have been infected, so that's something that's new on the radar and we're investigating it today. >> governor, westchester was the epicenter. it's sort of moved now to new york city. when you talk about expanding the capability of hospitals, is westchester an area where you're looking at perhaps opening some new temporary facility, and can you describe where those might be at this point? >> definitely. our planning will track -- again, it's science, it's data -- we'll track where the cases are. so wherever you have a cluster of cases, that's where you want to add to the capacity. you look at how many beds you now have, how many beds you may need, and that's where you add to the capacity. new york city is the natural for it to increase because of the density. westchester was an anomaly. that whole new rochelle situation.
and look, we responded to it dramatically, and i want to thank the westchester county executive, george latimer, who's done a great job, but we'll increase the capacity in westchester, that cluster, and new york city. we also have a cluster in nassau now. so wherever we see these clusters pop up. >> governor -- >> does the 50% rule apply -- it's just new york state? you didn't get an agreement from neighboring governors? >> i have not spoken to them about it at this time, to a point where we have agreement. our numbers are somewhat worse. we don't yet have agreement with connecticut, new jersey, or pennsylvania. but again, on this mandate, this one is not really geographically specific, because a business can't pick up today and move to new jersey to get around the mandate. >> how fast are you looking to move on the state budget? >> april 1.
>> what are you doing -- >> if they want to do it sooner, great. but the date is april 1. i'm going to be here. government is functioning. government is here. police officers are doing their job. nurses are doing their job. corrections officers are doing their job. a lot of people are putting themselves in harm's way. you have great public service here. those nurses who are at the testing stations, drawing blood, god bless them. this is public service. we'll be here. we'll be doing our job, if they want to come up and do the budget early, fine. otherwise, the date is april 1. >> what are you discussing with the das then later today? are you meeting with them? >> i met with the district attorney and criminal justice experts talking about bail reform. >> governor, can you give us -- >> this morning. i had that meeting this morning. >> can you give us an update on new rochelle, if there's any evidence that the zone in that city has been affected? >> you want to speak to that,
doctor? >> we are still tracking cases in that area, in the whole westchester county, but we do believe that the effectiveness of decreasing numbers is happening with that. >> yeah, but certain things are inarguable. it is inarguable, but to the extent you reduce density, you reduce the transfer of the virus. that is inarguable. so, closing schools, closing gatherings, that is inarguable. >> every sick leave bill's expected to be voted on today and passed. do you expect to sign that today? and it's supposed to be -- >> as soon as they pass the bill, i'll sign it. >> when would people start benefiting from that? >> the quarantine bill goes into effect immediately, right? >> the quarantine bill goes into effect immediately. the larger paid sick bill, we're actually going to hold on and do in the budget, and that will come into effect in 180 days. >> would people be getting checks from their employer as potentially next week or -- >> if they're in mandatory quarantine or if they're in prequausipr
precautionary quarantine, it takes effect immediately. >> why amend that bill? because obviously, what was introduced yesterday had the stawd system taking effect later. what led you to split it? >> we're giving a message and we believe that's necessary immediately for the quarantine provision. but as this other part of the bill doesn't go into effect for 180 days, it's not necessary to give a message of necessity. >> bernadette. >> do you have a plan in place for law enforcement, specifically the nypd and state police? but are the lapd being provided with extra protective gear and do you have a plan in place for anything that happens should any of these officers, et cetera, get ill? >> every police department has been advised to expect people to get ill. i mean, you know, you talk about a public-facing position in this environment, so reality would dictate you'll expect a number of people to get ill. i have mandated that new york
city and recall local governments have masks provided to their police departments. >> right. do you have any plan should nypd cut hours? or i just saw in philadelphia, they relaxed certain -- they told officers to stop detaining people for certain crimes. >> i'll leave that to the local police departments, unless there's a situation that requires state action. but right now, we're leaving it to the local police departments. >> governor, could you please expand more your discussions on bail reform with the das and the criminal justice expert. >> we talked -- we spoke through the issue. you know, there's a divergence of opinion. i said to them that i'm very proud of what we did on bail reform. i think we made a significant difference. obviously, there's people who have different opinions on what needs to be done now. and it was just a general conversation without a conclusion. it will be concluded in the
budget. let's take one more question and then we'll get to work. >> you mentioned that 108 people have been released from the hospital, maybe sequester. are they out of the woods for getting coronavirus twice or do you build up an immunity? >> so, you do build up immunity to viruses. sometimes immunity lasts for years, sometimes a lifetime. and they are out of the woods. i mean, if they've recovered, that's a positive sign. >> doctor, you gave this -- >> one -- this conversation i had with my sister. if you take your daughter to get a coronavirus test and she tests positive, what do you think happens? they send you home and they say, chicken soup and take care of yourself, and if it gets worse and you need hospitalization, call me. so, getting the test and getting the result, all it really does is inform us to isolate that person so that person doesn't
transfer it, but there's no medicine that you get for the coronavirus, right? it's just like the flu. the body has to develop its own immunity to that virus. we've been doing this testing just to slow the spread. and again, it's what i said to my sister, keep her away from mom. don't go into a nursing home. don't go into a senior care facility. don't expose a person who's immune-compromised, who's recovering from cancer, who has emphysema, who has a respiratory illness. that's all this is. we're going to go to work. thank you very much. >> you've been listening to the governor of new york, andrew cuomo in albany, his team discussing state responses to the coronavirus. we're also waiting for a white house briefing scheduled to begin any moment now. the federal response will be front and center there. we expect the president to be part of that. he tweeted out this morning that he had some news he wanted to sh