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♪ coronavirus case count mounts, states enact sweeping restrictions and there's tension at the top. >> you don't make the timeline, the virus makes the timeline. >> i'm not going to do anything rash, but the country wants to
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get back to work. >> governors demand more help and get under the president's skin. >> i say, don't call the governor of washington. you're wasting your time with him. don't call the woman in michigan. >> on the front lines, medical risks, economic anxiety. >> we are asking our health care workers to go into battle without the appropriate arms that they need. >> it's going to hit every aspect of life. it's very devastating. ♪ welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. thank you for sharing your sunday. the novel coronavirus continues its global march with devastating personal and economic impact. russia is closing its borders, spain ordering all workers to stay home for two weeks, japan's cases spiked again and the coronavirus count now climbing across africa. in the uk this week, prince charles tested positive as well
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as the prime minister. >> i've developed mild symptoms of the coronavirus. that's to say, a temperature and a persistent cough. on the advice of the chief medical officer, i've taken a test. that has come out positive. so i am working from home. i'm self-isolating. >> the latest global numbers are staggering, more than 669,000 confirmed cases worldwide. over 30,000 coronavirus deaths. the united states now owns the distinction no country wants, the most cases by far. more than 121,000 at last county. more than 2,000 deaths in the states. new york is hardest hit but there are increases in other states. you see just the top five on the screen there. with new cases came a host of new restrictions, closing businesses and urging residents to stay home. rhode island announced its first deaths saturday and the governor issued a stay-at-home order because she says up to half the
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state is ignoring social distancing guidelines. >> knock it off. you are risking the lives of everyone in this state. today i reported two deaths and in the days and weeks to come, there will be many more. we know we're on the way up the curve. >> the impact is everywhere you look. factories shuttered, streets empty. america's new normal, social distancing, forcing america's past time to delay opening day. what we hear from president trump swings wildly at times from day to day, sometimes even hour to hour. thursday night he said governors were exaggerating the need for ventilators. friday afternoon he flipped, said he was using federal powers to order general motors to make 100,000 ventilators in 100 days. the president began the week vowing to reopen the country soon saying the cure seems worst than the disease. by friday, after days of bleak numbers, he said health and safety would come first when he
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makes that decision. another big swing just yesterday. >> i am now considering and will make a decision very quickly, very shortly, a quarantine, because it's such a hot area, of new york, new jersey, and connecticut. we'll be announcing that one way or the other fairly soon. >> just hours later, the president backed down saying there would need to be some new travel restrictions but no quarantine. that retreat coming after fierce objections from the tri-state governors. >> it would be chaos and mayhem. i don't think it's plausible. i don't think it's legal. this would be a declaration of war on states. a federal declaration of war. and it wouldn't just be new york, new jersey, connecticut. next week it would be louisiana with new orleans and the week after that it would be detroit and michigan. and it would run all across the
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nation. >> cnn's jason carroll is live for us in new york and kaitlan collins is also with us. this is the latest example of the president sowing confusion, some say risking panic, by speaking about his instincts or things he's thinking about and hours later having to dial it back. >> reporter: when the president suggested this idea yesterday, he didn't offer a lot of details at the time. he said he thought it could be enforceable. he didn't offer any other details, though, and then there were several hours in between when the president first floated this idea and when he backed off of it. last night white house officials were not offering hardly any details on this. i'm told by sources that several of the top aides were caught off guard by the president's suggestion and we know that the governors were as well because andrew cuomo said he had just spoken with the president and had not raised this idea during that. i'm told this came after a call that the president had with the florida governor who was complaining about too many new yorkers coming into his state. he had a fear it was going to
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create a bigger spread of coronavirus in florida and then of course you just saw moments later the president suggested this idea with very few details. of course, the question here was whether or not it was going to cause panic, cause people to try to flee those states for fear of being stuck in them and we're told in the hours after several aides had to go to the president and explain they do not think this is something he could legally enforce from his position. that's why you saw the guidance for suggesting people not travel. here's the thing that raises the question of, you're seeing this split between guidance from the president and the governors and that's been a big question about what's going to come out on tuesday when the white house releases its new guidelines. several governors have said even if they start to tell people to go back to work if healthy and young, governors say they'll make their own decisions for their states based on the data
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they have. >> we'll continue that part of the conversation in just a moment. jason, you're in new york city where the mayor is dealing with a crisis. the governor in the state is dealing with a crisis. your neighbors in connecticut and new jersey are dealing with a crisis. i'm going to guess the last thing they needed was the president throwing a lightning bolt saying i may put you under quarantine. >> reporter: it caused concern here on the ground and a great deal of confusion. you heard katelyn say just a little bit earlier, basically this is what folks in new york city and new jersey and connecticut have been doing all along. that's essentially what new jersey's governor said in so many words. but really the focus here now is the increased need for hospital beds, the increased need for medical supplies, whether it be here at elmhurst hospital where we've heard from medical workers on the front line or other hospitals across the city. you've heard from medical workers saying we don't have the masks that we need. we've had to reuse them.
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late last night i was emailing with one of the representatives from the city health department who says, we're following cdc guidelines. she went on to say we have conservation efforts in place to ensure we continue to have the supplies that our staff needs. aside from that, the govern has been clear, we need more ventilators in this state. we need more hospital beds. you've got these emergency centers that are going to be opening in all five boroughs. that's going to be happening. you're going to be hearing more about that later on today. the need here on the ground, more medical supplies, more ventilators. john? >> appreciate the live reporting at a busy time in new york city. also with us this sunday, again, to share their expertise, the director of harvard's global health institute and an emergency room physician in rhode island. you were here last sunday and you said by the end of the week the united states would likely be number one in cases. we are now. give me the trajectory. when you look at this, we were at 1,000 deaths on thursday, two
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days later, we're above 2,000 deaths. you see the cases spiking across the country, even some of the smaller state that is might have 100 or so. the rates are going that way. where are we? >> good morning, john. last sunday, i said within a week we're going to surpass china and i was wrong. we got there in four days. the number of cases -- as you said, are going to continue rising across the country. i think every part of the country is going to see exponential growth in cases, we're going to see more in florida, louisiana, illinois and other places. i'm really worried about the number of deaths. as you said, we've doubled it in three days. if that trajectory continues, we're going to be at 10,000 within a week and then at some point we're going to be seeing thousands and thousands of people dying every day. inside of being distracted by travel restrictions, we have to focus on the three things that
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we know work, increase testing, do social distancing and protect our health care workers and get the health system ready. any conversation that's not about those things is a distraction. >> let's stay there then. we talked -- you said you were worried about ppe supplies. you heard your governor screaming at people in the state, knock it off. listen to the health care professionals and social distance. she has an order in place, what are you seeing in the emergency room this week that's different from last week and i'm going to hope it's better, but i'm not going to guess it's not. >> it is not better. we are seeing a dramatic increase in the number of people coming in with symptoms consistent with covid-19. we are going to see high increases in the number of deaths in our state within the next few days and we're seeing dwindling supplies. all of those protective masks and gowns that we need have been appropriately diverted to new york city. we're not receiving the
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shipments from the strategic national stockpile that we were hoping for. the supply chain on protective equipment is completely frozen up and my health care colleagues are terrified because we are working under the same cdc recommendations but those are not standard practice in standard times and people are scared for themselves getting infected, bringing it home to their family and getting admitted to the hospital or even dying. >> one of the challenges is, there needs to be long-term planning and immediate response. the president of the united states yesterday says we get it. america's manufacturing sector is rallying to the cause. >> we are so geared up at boeing, ford, honey well, 3m, hanes and other great american companies, factory floors and manufacturing lines are being converted to produce the respirators, protective masks
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and other vital equipment. >> but the republican of ohio says, no, i need it now. >> should be no secret to anyone that we have a real, real shortage. we're talking about masks, we're talking about goggles, gloves, gowns, face shields, other essential items that are essential to keep people at the front line, the real heroes of this story. if you are a manufacturer and you can make any of this stuff, we need to hear from you right away. >> katelyn, still a bit of a disconnect between the president says we're on top of this and governors and not just democratic governors, governors around the country saying i needed it yesterday and i still don't have it. >> and the president has gone from down playing how much they need it, saying some of these governors are exaggerating their requests to saying the federal government is ready to step in once the states try to secure it
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themselves first. what you're hearing is there's a lack of coordination here. it's difficult for them to go out and buy this on their own because they're competing with other states and other private companies as well trying to get this. now they say they're competing with fema. they've placed orders for gear for their health care workers but they can't get it because fema has purchased it out from under them as fema is trying to make sure it has enough so it can back up the states. you're seeing a cycle where there's no coordination, these governors say, on exactly how they're going to secure this equipment. they're not sure how it's going to be distributed, whether or not it's going to certain areas. that's been the question here. and people internally at the white house know this. they've been trying to conduct a nationwide inventory of what exactly there is so they can note what exactly they need. the question, of course, is going to be the timing here. if they coordinated that in time for them to be able to have these companies make this, and that's why you've seen so much confusion over this defense production act that the president has used where he said
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he's using it and then not and he employed it on friday with general motors even though they said they were making the ventilators that the president wanted. >> we're going to continue to track that. we'll take a closer look at the coronavirus numbers and whether the map matches the president's goal of opening parts of the country soon. >> we're going to run short. we're already doing a lot of measures here at unc to recycle, potentially reuse after sterilizing masks. it's something we've never had to do before. >> primary care starts out here in the trenches before we get to the hospital door. we can't fight a war in the trenches when we're given sticks and stones. >> i have doctors and nurses on the front lines who are using one mask for their entire shift. we don't have enough masks. we don't have enough gowns. and we need more from the federal government and others.
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we cannot let the cure be worse than the problem itself. i would love to have the country opened up and ready to go by easter. >> who suggested that day? >> i thought it was a beautiful time. >> i'm not going to do anything rash or hastily. i don't do that. but the country wants to get back to work. each location is different. some are very, very different. some are day and night. some are in great shape and some aren't in great shape. >> the president's push to reopen the country puts him at odds with his own public health professionals and with the coast to coast facts about the coronavirus spread. even his tone was different on friday than it was on monday.
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as the weeks coronavirus count grew more dire and actions by governors and mayors made clear they see little chance of bending the arc by easter. let's take a look at some of the numbers. this is the heat map. the darker the state, the higher the case count. look across america, only a few states, fewer than 100 cases. this virus is touching everywhere and in most states the count is growing, growing and growing. the states with the biggest increase, idaho, out west, alaska. 878% up week to week in indiana. the count is going the wrong way. my emphasis here is on the arrows, up 366% nationally, new york, massachusetts, up. the doctors talk about bending the curve. the arrows are heading up. a surge of cases will overwhelm
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hospital capacity, the beds, the supply lines. you need to stretch it out with social distancing and other measures to bend the arc, stretch out the care. that is not what is happening at the moment in most of america. here's the united states. the line is going up. new york, perhaps a slight bend. watch in the week ahead. but still going up, new jersey, michigan, these are some of the states. some counties, maybe you can open this county, keep that county closed, kentucky's governor among those saying, no way. >> if your small businesses in your counties are sacrificing, if you simply drive over the border to another state and have all the contacts we're trying to stop, you frustrate the sacrifice of those in your community. we're going to make sure that the whole state is operating under these same -- under the very same game plan because the
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moment that we relax something in county a, someone from county b drives to county a and we see a very large outbreak. >> that's the governor. is that good medical advice there? is it feasible to say you can open county a, but keep county b closed? >> john, it is good advice. it's going to be very hard to open up county by county. you could imagine a region, a state, a couple of states that could do it, but the problem right now is we don't know what the hotspots are. we know what places are having a lot of outbreaks. we're not doing adequate testing. there are lots of places that may be hot spot that is look okay on the map. until we have a very good picture of exactly what's happening, we can't even discuss opening up entire regions of the country. i'm skeptical that there's any place that's going to be ready
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to open up in the next week or two. >> the president was talking about a quarantine. he backed off. but the governor of florida says we're going to be on the lookout for new york license plates. listen to the governor of pennsylvania saying he's worried about people leaving new york and going elsewhere. >> we're a border state to new york and i also want to reiterate the president's call for all people who have been in new york city to quarantine for 14 days, whether you're coming from new york or someplace else. if you're coming to pennsylvania, stay home. if you don't have to interact with other people, don't. >> help us understand this from a health perspective. is that solid advice to stop new yorkers from traveling or do you have to trust their good will? should government get involved? the aclu is complaining you can't pull people over because they have new york license plates. >> the reason that my governor is recommending that people from new york quarantine at home for
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14 days is that we know that many people who are infected are asymptomatic. so they don't have symptoms, but they can still spread the virus. even those people who go onto actually get sick or even need to be hospitalized can spread the virus before they know that they're getting sick. so folks that are coming out of new york, where we have tremendous community spread of the virus, if they're going and interacting with shopkeepers and neighbors when they come up to their beach houses or summer houses here in rhode island or pennsylvania, they could spread that virus, you know, significantly among our communities. that shelter in place or stay at home, self-quarantine for 14 days, that recommendation is being made on good public health data. and i want to reiterate what the governor said, to knock it off and stay home. you are protecting not just yourself but also the lives of your neighbors and community. >> and so in this public health pandemic and emergency, we see
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some politics. and i'm not smart enough to know who is right or wrong. i want to give you an example. in the state of south carolina, the governor had his attorney general put out a legal opinion yesterday that says only the governor, only the governor has the authority to impose restrictions that mayors and county executives cannot do that. this opinion you see on your screen there says only the governor can do this. several towns had shut down. this is the mayor says, she had shut things down at the beaches. now she says you're going to have to keep yourself safe because the governor is not going to back us up. what happens in states where a mayor tries and a governor says no? >> yeah, john, this is the lack of federal coordination on these policies, kind of coming to bear the brunt for all americans. we can't have every mayor and governor fighting with each other. we have to focus on the disease at hand. the mayors who are trying to shut down their cities are right
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from a public health point of view. and the problem with this disease is that if you don't act, it looks fine for a while, until the cases become overwhelming and then action at that point is really late and you have to act much more aggressively. i'm worried if south carolina doesn't act now in a couple of weeks, they are going to be overwhelmed like the rest of the nation is starting to get too now. >> we're going to continue to watch the states. appreciate your coming in again as we walk through this challenge together. up next, we move to the economic output. unemployment claims shatter the record. do you have concerns about mild memory loss related to aging? prevagen is the number one pharmacist-recommended
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people are being kind and reaching out. that's all you can do, right? >> are you worried about how long this is going to last? >> 100%? yeah. if it goes on months, i don't think any of us have any idea what we're going to do. >> i'm like millions of other people, i'm not going to be able to find a place to live if i have no income. i have to have an eight-hour day if i want to eat. >> we know the global and u.s.
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economic toll of the coronavirus pandemic is devastating. how lasting is the question that just cannot be answered yet. but three things help us understand just how unprecedented this challenge is. 3.3 million americans filed unemployment claims last week. nearly five times the previous record of 695,000. congress passed its third coronavirus emergency package, a $2.2 trillion stimulus program. the largest spending bill in american history. one piece of the stimulus is direct government checks, quickly, to american workers and parents based on income levels. the president who signed it into law friday already concedes, there will be more to come. >> there may be something where we're going to have to help states. the states have been hurt very badly. we can handle it and we can handle -- i watched jerome powell the other day and he did a good job. he said, we'll do whatever we have to do.
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john, we have to do whatever we ever to do. >> joining our conversation, both from "the washington post." the economy is your wheelhouse. the stimulus plan, it has bigger unemployment benefits, it suspends federal student loan payments, loans to big businesses, $350 billion in loans and grants for small businesses. 125 billion for hospitals. how will we know if it is enough. it seems like a ridiculous question. it's $2 trillion. how will we know if it is enough to prop up the economy? >> i think it's going to be enough to stop the free fall. the it's not enough to get the economy up and running again. no one is going out and buying a new car or fixing their roof or making another big investment, planning a summer vacation. everyone is waiting to see what's going to happen. as we're all hunkered down, this money is going to help prevent some companies from collapsing, prevent some people from falling behind on their bills but not
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enough to get the country up and running. >> the checks haven't been cut yet. the regulations aren't even written yet and you have the president there at the white house briefing saying, yeah, we're going to need more. he thinks direct aid to states will have to be part of that package. listen to the speaker and the republican leader, the -- nancy pelosi seems to be in line with the president, not so much kevin mccarthy. >> our next bill will lean toward recovery, how we can create good-paying jobs, building the infrastructure of america. family medical leave is not as inclusive as it needs to be. in terms of what we do want to see more direct payments. >> we've given the resources to make and solve this problem. we don't need to be crafting another bill right now. let's let these $2 trillion go to work for us. >> there may be a disagreement over the details, but they seem on the same page, and the
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president pulled the rug out from the republican leader there. >> exactly. you're seeing a lot of concerns already from capitol hill that this package, even though it is $2.2 trillion, is not going to be enough at the end of the day. and i spoke with mitch mcconnell shortly before the bill passed the senate and he had a similar view as kevin mccarthy, let's see how these checks go, how the small business loans go, and then we can reassess whether we need to come back for a phase four. but a lot of people on capitol hill clearly in the administration are preparing for that second package. you can expect a lot of discussion about infrastructure. i would expect the discussion about the payroll tax cut which was a favored policy of the president, but not favored by people on capitol hill. it could come back again. the direct aid to states is going to be a major issue. we reported at the post about a very tense phone call between governor andrew cuomo and members of the new york house delegation where cuomo just
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lambasted saying it did not give enough aid for new york. all of these factors are going to come back up again and it may come back again when the lawmakers are dispersed back home in their states. they have left washington. they do not want to come back to the capitol anymore soon. the logistics of that are going to be challenging. >> we know one way the president looks at the economy -- this is not necessarily a good way to judge the economy. the president follows the stock market. if you look at the last month, you don't need me, you can look at the child suppoart. it dropped a little bit on friday. i don't need to analyze the day-to-day here. this is one of the things the president watches. what do you watch? these are the $2 trillion in the united states, probably more to come. in is a global pandemic in a global economy. >> sure. i think we need to watch the weekly jobless claims numbers.
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that's going to tell us realtime the state of the labor market. that's going to tell you if people can feel comfortable spending money or pulling back. we're going to be needing to watch credit card payments, whether those people are falling into default, mortgage payments, that will tell you that -- as more and more people fall behind on these payments, they pull back on their spending, the financial industry gets a little bit shakier, then you start to see things getting worse. when those things stabilize, i think we can feel a little bit more comfortable about the economy. none of that is going to work until the health care situation and the hospitals start to feel more comfortable. i think a lot of the economy will follow behind. >> the connection of the two is what we need to track in the days and weeks ahead. up next for us here, the new normal is everywhere. members of congress testing positive, colleagues in quarantine and the house stimulus debate like no other.
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the house passed the $2 trillion coronavirus stimulus plan by a voice vote. that is a very rare move on such consequential legislation and it is yet another item on the coronavirus disruption list. there was a debate for lawmakers who were here in town. this photo was shared of an empty house chamber. haley stevens of michigan was among those who spoke and things
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got a little busy when she went past her time. >> not for personal tension. not for personal tension, but to encourage you to take -- >> the lady -- i'm going to give you more time. >> to the families -- >> the gentle lady will suspend. >> hour society needs you to stand together at this time. our doctors and nurses, i -- >> the time has expired. the gentleman from -- >> she's with us this sunday. congresswoman, take me inside that remarkable moment and what was the point you were trying to make amid the chaos there. >> well, i guess i did go over my time a little bit, john. but more so in michigan people are really hurting. the big three has shuttered 124,000 unemployment claims were made last week and in just 24 hours from when we passed the
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cares act, from friday to saturday, coronavirus cases in michigan doubled. we're in the heat of this virus battle. and it's important to make sure that people know they're being heard, our doctors and nurses know that we're standing by them. we're here to carry this through together. >> in the middle of this, the president has had a bit of a public sparring match with your governor. let's little to a little bit of that. >> michigan, all she does is -- she has no idea what's going on and all she does is say, oh, it's the federal government's fault and we've taken such great care of michigan. don't call the woman in michigan. it doesn't make my difference what happens. >> the governor of washington -- >> you know what i say, if they don't treat you right, i don't call. >> what do you make of that including the part that the president doesn't appear to know your governor's name.
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>> governor gretchen whitmer has been doing a great job of communicating with everyone in the state about the need to stay home, stay safe, about the business closures and also with the allocation of resources. and, john, just to couch this for you, last weekend i was on the phone with my hometown mayor and he was running from construction site to construction site trying to get access to that personal protective equipment, that ppe equipment citing that -- this is in rochester. he's citing we have a shortage of equipment. we're in desperate need for this equipment here in michigan and so we're doing what it takes to get it done. i've been match making some of our manufacturers who can produce this. we have a rich supply chain. this is an industrial call to action. this is what michigan is made of
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is the people who are dedicated to making things as well as, you know, responsibly addressing a medical crisis. >> and you talk about the medical crisis and the big spike in your state. let's hope that arc bends. but it's going up right now. you have this conversation in health care systems across the country including the great henry ford health care system in your state. i want to read you a letter, some patients will be extremely sick and unlikely to survive their illness even with critical treatment. treating these patients would take away resources from patients who might survive. patients who are treated with a ventilator or icu care may have those treatments stopped if they do not improve over time. people who have icu care withdrawn will receive pain control and comfort measures. is this advance planning for an if or a when? >> there's a lot of planning going on in michigan right now and certainly a lot of reworking. you're seeing the tcf center
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potentially putting their hand up to serve as a medical center for people, the suburban showcase which is located in my district, same sort of thing. it's essential that we protect our doctors and nurses who are going to be working closely with those who are most infected from getting this disease. and so, look, there's certainly some questions that come up when you hear a letter like that and they're ethical questions. i'm chair of the house science, research and technology committee and there's a big role that scientific integrity, that bio ethics plays in this process. but the message i've been sending, john, to all of my constituents from the beginning of this is we will not let you fail. we will not let you fail financially or medically and we are all in this together and every american life counts, every hard-working family counts here and we're going to get through this. >> tell me what you can about
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the president and general motors. he keeps blaming gm saying they're the problem for this mix up about how many ventilators, how fast. what do we know about that? >> what people have to understand about the manufacturing sector and -- i'm very close to the manufacturing sector. i spend every week visiting a supplier in my district or a manufacturing firm and i'll tell you, it's not a light switch. and so right now we're doing inventory, we're trying to see where our products are, who's got what, asking for more equipment, even what the mayor was doing by going to construction sites or dentist offices, we're looking at the national stockpile. and then we're looking at this great manufacturing moment for our country and i'll tell you, there's a lot of match making you have to do. some companies have the specs, some don't. i have a form on my website that connects makers to one another
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as well as connects constituents obviously who have impact stories that they want to share. the big thing to understand here is manufacturing is not a light switch. you want to revert your production, it's going to take a couple weeks. >> i appreciate your time on this busy sunday. take care and stay safe. up next, a closer look at coronavirus disruption. the pope preaching to a completely empty st. peters square and a texas church aiming for a smile in these trying times. it's our policy that your pizza is never touched once it comes out of the oven. and we're taking extra steps, like no contact delivery, to ensure it. no. uh uh, no way. ♪ come on. no. no. n... ni ni, no no! only discover has no annual fee on any card. n... ni ni, no no! it's miracle-gro's biggest thing: performance organics.
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we close today far from new york, the virus epicenter, and far from washington, where i work, where we track the coronavirus response and we track the president's words and tweets. this pandemic is touching just about every inch of america. new orleans, for example, is bracing for a surge. >> reporter: right now the city is bracing for what's to come this week. the governor says that by the end of this week, they will be running out of hospital beds and ventilators. the last we heard, they haven't received 200 ventilators. there is also a makeshift hospital that is being set up in the new orleans convention center. this was the scene 15 years ago of so much grief and despair in the days after hurricane katrina. now once again the focal point
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of another crisis. >> from new orleans to wilcox, arizona, one of those places deliberately away from it all. even in wilcock the safeway says keep your distance, and the shelves are missing what you're looking for. in midland, texas, it is a double get punch. coronavirus hit just after oil prices plummeted and crashed the local economy. midland's mayor is also a pastor. every day now, he says, has the stress of a funeral. el paso is or was a thriving border town. streets were thousands normally crossed both ways daily are now deserted. in this town in texas, old graffiti takes on a new meaning. in the first baptist church, hoping for a laugh in these trying times. holly berry from "the washington post" captured these images and joins us from oklahoma city. your reporting and writing is fantastic. i want to take our viewers through some of your journey, starting in wilcox, arizona. up and down the aisles people
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shook their heads at a strange scene. this was the place where people came to escape, a small town surrounded by even smaller ones where social distancing was kind of the point. but not anymore, right? even tiny wilcox cannot escape. >> right, and, i mean, as i wrote in that story, you walk up and down the aisles, you see evidence of panic and fear. and there was a man who happened to be in the checkout line who was kind of unnerved because store employees were wearing masks and there were signs about social distancing. he kind of ranted and raved a little bit about how he knew someone who took vitamin c and was fine and that the fears were overblown. a woman was looking at him in fear. she had gotten off a cruise ship weeks earlier and was very aware of the fear of this. she had self-quarantined and had only emerged because they were
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running out of food. so everybody's kind of feeling this, in one way or another, across the country. >> and so let's move on to midland, texas. the mayor happens to be a pastor, as i noted in the intro. he said, when i used to do funerals, especially of young children, i would always take the rest of the day off to decompress from the tragedy. this is the same feeling. it's the same emotion. that, the mayor, patrick dayton of midland, where the economy crashed right before coronavirus hit. >> yeah, and it's sort of a double gut punch there. and they're trying to figure out how to handle all of this. and one of the big concerns is that, you know, a lot of people are referencing this and referring back to the oil bust in the 1980s where tens of thousands of people lost their jobs, not just in texas but in places like oklahoma and louisiana and back then, people could kind of blow off steam, they could pick up and go somewhere else. now they're being asked to shelter in place.
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so he and his team are worried about the psychological impact of this, you know, what does it mean for people who just have no way to decompress or deal with the stress of all of this. so that's one thing that they're really looking at in the coming weeks as this gets worse. >> and i'm going to move on to el paso. i love the lead of your piece, some believe the future can be found by studying the lines on your palm, but miss eva wasn't about to tempt fate. outside her small studio on a busy stretch of road. in broken english she explained she was scared of catching the virus. tough. >> yeah, i mean, every little thing, these things you wouldn't expect, are being touched by this. what was really strike to go me about he wi striking to me about el paso is, it's such a vibrant community, pulsating with energy, especially along the border.
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i went there a little over a week ago, it was as deserted as i've ever seen it. it was hours before they were shutting down nonessential travel between mexico and the u.s. it was already very, very slow. >> holly bailey, fantastic work. i appreciate you joining us today. for everybody, go to "the washington post" website, and read these articles in totality. holly bailey, really appreciate it. that's it for "inside politics." up next, "state of the union" with jake tapper whose guests include house speaker nancy pelosi, dr. anthony fauci, governors gretchen whitmer. thanks for sharing this sunday in these trying times. have a good sunday. stay safe. r lawns has arrived. now, there is a roundup brand product made just for your lawn. so you can put unwelcome lawn weeds to rest.
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a new epicenter? more than 2,000 dead in the u.s. and confirmed cases top 100,000. experts say infections in the u.s. have not yet peaked. >> this is truly an unprecedented situation. >> as president trump pulls back on his plans to quarantine the hard-hit new york region, i'll speak to one of his coronavirus task force leaders, dr. anthony fauci and the mayor of new york city, bill de blasio, next. and desperate measures as states plead for medical supplies, preparing for a wave of misery already hitting hospitals. president trump describes two desperate governors this way.
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