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le. the dans have gotten creative about that they've moved classes to churches, even to cemeteries as well. another thing, you really don't feel teachers or students wearing masks. it's if not what they believe in. instead, you have a lot of handwashing and since the schools reopened there has not been a spike in coronavirus infections. fred pleitgen cnn, copenhagen, denmark. hello to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm john king in washington. this is cnn continuing coverage of the coronavirus pandemic. the president leaves for michigan this hour. it's a key 2020 battleground state and a coronavirus test case. fourth in deaths among the 50 states and very much in the leading edge of the economic fallout, too. a morning reminder of that devastation in what is now an economic tragedy. 2.4 million americans say they do not have a job. the nine-week total, more than 38 million shoved to the
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unemployment rolls by coronavirus. a new study about the cost of waiting to tell americans to stay at home is now stirring a debate over whether the president, most governors and mayors should have acted sooner. where we are right now is another debate. the president plans things in military terms and says, quote, we have prevailed. the urgent thing is to reopen quickly to save american businesses and american jobs but the nation's top expert on infectious disease voices the caution. >> the scientific evidence clearly indicates that physical separation has worked, but not completely. if you look at the curves in our country, it isn't like everything is dramatically going down. now is not the time to tempt fate and pull back completely. >> with the president about to head to michigan with us to share her reporting are chief political correspondent dana bash and also in michigan, omar
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jimenez. omar, the president is making a trip about the pandemic, but also the election. what's the situation on the ground? >> reporter: that's right, john, a lot of actors playing intole it here. he'll make his way here to michigan, specifically to the ford plant behind me. now, the big question on this trip is whether he will wear a mask when he steps inside this plant. significant for health reasons, one, but also because it thwarts policy that everyone inside must wear a mask. ford's rep told us they've communicated that with the white house but also said the white house will be making their own determination for the president. and interestingly enough, the state has weighed in here with the attorney general saying that if the president doesn't wear a mask that could have implications for any future visits he has. >> if he fails to wear a mask, he's going to be asked not to return to any enclosed facilities inside our state. i know ford has asked him to do
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the same thing. but if we know this, and he's not going to follow the law, i think we're going to have to take action against any company or any facility that allows him inside those facilities and puts our workers at risk. >> reporter: now, i've spoken to a source in the facility who says they would prefer the president wear a mask when he steps inside, specifically citing that when their ceo and when union leadership and others stepped inside, they want to see more of that leadership by example on that front. but again, this visit is not happening within a vacuum. it also comes as president trump has been going back and forth pleading state officials here specifically over the recent move by secretary of state to send absentee ballot applications to all of their voters. now, he initially mischaracterized what was being sent out saying they're ballots, as opposed to applications. he also claimed to withhold federal funding to michigan.
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again, these are the dynamics playing out as president trump makes his way to ypsilanti, john. >> to that point, dana, the president has been a contrarian when it comes to masks. he doesn't wear one even though his government tells you that you should out in public, or in close proximity. he's also heading to a state with the map on 2016, and fighting with a governor who has giant approval ratings on how she's handling the pandemic. the governor is getting high numbers, normally, that would say back off, don't fight, but he's picking the fight? >> because he can't help himself. this is not something that he's being encouraged ed td to do b police department cat advisers according to the people i'm talking to. he sees the governor as somebody who has challenged him which he doesn't like. and it's even more of a sore point when it's a strong, powerful woman. and then you take it to the next
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step where he does also see the visuals in the, you know, volumes of news that he consumes. of the protests in michigan, specifically, saying those are my people. i want to encourage those people. i want to keep those people going. because if i have a chance of winning in michigan, they need to be electrified. and they need to know that i have their back. it is a tricky political business, never mind health business, when you're talking about the president as omar was just reporting going into a state, going into a plant that requires him to wear a mask. will he wear one? it may seem like we're talking about something that is trivial, but it's not. it is example-setting in a really, really important way. even more so now, much more so now than at the white house, because this is a business that is saying please respect our policies. >> but the question, again, does the president side with the
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scientific experts? or does he side with members of his base saying it's the elitists telling us to do this? we don't have to do this. they're overstating this. >> right. >> another thing that's fascinating to watch, the president has traveled rarely because of restrictions in place. when he has left washington, it's been to go to arizona, to go to pennsylvania, and to go to michigan. pretty obvious. >> totally obvious. they're not even trying to hide it. he's not going to blue states that he has absolutely no chance of winning. they are trying as much as they can to replicate a campaign event until every move that he makes. and that's what michigan is about. even though, you know, it's unclear how it's going to play out, as you said, he would not be president of the united states without that surprise win. in michigan. but the fact that he is going there is 1,000% because it's
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such a politically critical state. it does, in fairness to the white house also happen to be a hot spot. and had a very, very big problem, you know, historically, since the beginning of this crisis, that the federal government had been trying to work with. more the vice president working with the governor than him. but there is a reasonable excuse for him to go to michigan. >> and a good opportunity for him to be in that ford factory where omar noted they're making ventilators as well as parts of cars there and they'll get to see some of the spacing in place to protect their workers. >> and we should note, going to a ford factory, i mean, those are his people. if you look at the union leadership, what we learned in 2016 is that the leadership height behind their traditional party which is the democratic party. but it was the workers who turned out to be the trump voters. and so that's not an accident that is the kind of place he is going to within a swing state.
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>> many implications about the pandemic, about politics. more dana bash, appreciate it, and omar appreciate that reporting as well. moving on to the medical fight a $1 billion deal for a vaccine that may or may not work. that deal involves u.s. tax dollars. the trump administration now working with the big drugmaker astrazeneca to manufacture a vaccine currently being developed at the university of oxford. here's the ceo. >> we're doing the -- we're not doing phase one, two, we're going to do phase two, three, it's a completely styled program. and moving very quickly with a lot of resources involved. a lot of focus and great collaboration. >> let's talk this over, dr. paul osfit is on the
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advisory committee. good to see you again. this is the trump administration entering into a very expensive deal, essentially to have this company produce vaccines even before we know if it is the vaccine, smart, risky, somewhere in the middle? >> well, again, i think that these are very preliminary data. as you said earlier, we don't know whether this is safe. we don't know whether this vaccine works. we will know that, though. i mean, assuming we do this the right way and this vaccine is subject to a phrase three trial which is say in a large placebo trial, 20,000 people get the vaccine, and 20,000 people get the placebo, you can see where it's safe. and then you know. the proof is in the pudding and that's the pudding. right now, it's just science and maybe we have a vaccine, but we don't know that yet. >> so, in terms of the infrastructure, many of our viewers here in the united states or around the world, they
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see the depressing numbers on the right side of the screen. the world health organization reporting its single biggest day in terms of spike cases. i want you to listen to this conversation of dr. fauci here with his case with julia roberts. say it's better to make global delivery. >> we can't make a vaccine for ourselves and only know how well it works in ourselves. if you don't control an outbreak in the developing world, it's going to come around and bite you the next season. so unless you completely stop this, you're not going to wall yourself off from the developing world. >> you have a lot of experience in this. do you see the international cooperation among the scientists and among the governments, to pull this off? that if whether it is in months or a year or month, when we finally get to that shot on goal that goes in and you have a vaccine do you see the
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infrastructure being built, the political cooperation being built, the bonds and trusts, if you will, to ramp up production in a way to get it to the world, as opposed to the wealthy nations? >> well, there's certainly cooperation among the scientists. i certainly think there's political will in this world to make sure the vaccine goes to all of the places. how much more do we need to know that what happens in the rest of the world affects us. and i think we have a mobile obligation, quite frankly, that we're a good friend to this world. i think it's going to be more than one vaccine if we get it out there not only to our country but also all of the other countries who can benefit. that's our moral and ethical obligation. >> dr. offit, i appreciate your expertise and wise context, if will you. we'll continue the conversation and we wish all of the scientists luck, of course. thank you. >> thank you. let's shift now to new evidence of the economic impact of coronavirus. the labor department reports
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another 2.4 million americans, 2.4 million americans filing first-time unemployment claims last week. that's now nearly 40 million people filing for benefits in just two months. and correspondent and anchor julia chatterley is here. you add up the numbers, julia, you get whiplash? >> you do. with the american workers, it's tough to say it any differently. and we're still falling. the numbers that we're seeing on a weekly basis are coming down but the trend is lowering but that's no comfort wehen we're talking 1 in 4 workers struggling in terms of furlough or just afraid. with the numbers we're talking about, how many people we're talking about, there were an additional 1.2 gig economy workers, sole traders, uber drivers, for example, and we're just getting a sense of
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additional sectors that have never got benefits before. but you also have to look state by state because the differences here are quite drastic. if you look at states like kentucky, georgia, we're now talking up to close to 40% of workers in that state, asking, filing for first-time benefits. if you have a state that's deeply reliant, close contact business, tourism, entertainment, you're looking at far worse than depression numbers here too. what we're not collecting in this data is jobs coming back. and this is what the key focus is going to be on. that even when i look at the number of people that were already claiming benefits, those numbers spiked by more than 2.5 million people. john, i'll keep coming back to the fact that workers say this is temporary, my job is going to come back we're simply not seeing that in the data. steven mnuchin, the treasury
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secretary said there's a strong likelihood that a further stimulus bill is needed. he's right. >> we'll watch as they play out, and the numbers tell us months and months of disruption. ahead of us. julia comphat chatterley. we just heard the new york governor say in person there will be no summer school. what will it take, join anderson cooper and dr. sanjay gupta coronavirus facts and fears here at 8:00 p.m. some states in some phase of reopening. more than a dozen of those states have seen their cases spike. i had a heart problem.
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we look often at the states. let's take a look at what the map looks like when you look at it by a county by county perspective. here in the united states, you hope where you live is lighter. the darker colors where the cases are hit the hardest. confirmed cases by 1,000 residents. deep red, you have a big coronavirus problem. light red, obviously, not as much of a problem. you can look at it county by county in terms of deaths, stretching up to new england, louisiana down here. a problem out west, navajo nation. other parts of the western united states, again, if you're looking at this map, you would prefer the you live to be light, not deep into the red. if you go county by county. looking at major counties, across america. in orange county, california, you are coming down. so the question is why are well heading up? is it one time, some cluster or
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a couple days of trouble? or are you starting to climb up? you don't want that. harris county, texas, houston is in harris county. officials see this again, we're ready to reopen and that is what makes people nervous. i want to put the county map with cases just back up as we talk about a new coronavirus model that warns areas of the country that open too quickly could see case spikes. the question is a rapid uptick in parts of texas, parts of alabama and tennessee. it shows in other states where restrictions were lifts more slowly and selectively believe those states may escape an immediate surge. joining us dr. david reuben from the children's lab in philadelphia which is a big part of the study. doctor, when you look at this, you say, okay, these places, we think they're on the right track, these places trouble us? how did you make those
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judgments? >> our models are subject to what people do. by and far, the most immediate transmission of the virus is the distancing that people do. we know what might set apart the communities that were doing well, versus those that weren't were not only how quickly they were go but how vigilant people remaybe. masks indoors, restricting gatherings, and hand hygiene and disinfection. and the degree of area not moving too quickly, we're starting to see evidence of resurgence, but we're also seeing optimism in other areas that appear to be moving more cautiously. and they're opening as well, too, but we're not seeing the same resurgence risk there. >> so we're going to track these on a daily basis and certainly, on a weekly basis. i want to show some areas that you believe are doing well.
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you look at king county, washington. you have the numbers here. you can see it just on the chart there. if you figure it out, on the top, that's bad. and trend down, with the proc projections. denver, colorado, a big spike in the middle. when it comes to denver, colorado, your prediction, they're a little flat. and franklin county, ohio, i'd call this a roller coaster not what a statistician would call it but a trajectory that starts to bring this down. explain, when you see the projection, flat at the end or down, what's behind that you believe it is policies that say we can reopen, but cautiously? >> yeah, we can observe directly what individuals are doing in these counties, but, you know, these are densely crowded areas as well, too. particularly, denver. it's interesting, you got columbus, ohio, as well. and what we see, you know, even though the counties for some of the reopening that they're doing, they certainly have some
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favorable temperature trends that are helping them. but our models are really flexible to what's actually happening in those counties. and the degree to which we can't observe whether people are wearing masks, it's being revealed in our data and predictions that our forecasts demonstrate less resurgence. whereas in other areas that moved too quickly, like in the south, their distance practice has eroded more quickly. but we also suspect, for the same amount of relaxation, social distancing, bewe're seei much more worrisome forecasts. and we suspect what we're detecting there is potentially the lack of digital inserts occurring in those communities. >> that's the fascinating challenge. you can look at communities and track on cell phone data and you look at mobility, and you see civil mobility there and than you do there.
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and it's based on, a., being responsible with individuals. b, are the individuals being safe when they go out whether on the way to work or otherwise. on the flip side of this we're showing where things can go the wrong direction. harris county, texas, you do not want a project heading up like that. miami-dade beginning to open right there, you have a similar result. you bounce around a little. that's the actual data and the dots heading up in montgomery, alabama, a state that's reopened. all three of those, harris county, miami-dade and montgomery, the right side of the chart is pretty similar. why? why do you see these as potential danger spots? >> yeah, we include the same factors like population density, the amount of distancing that people are doing. by and large, the most important contributor to those predictions is where your cases are going. we factored in where yesterday's transmission rates were and what
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the magnitude of cases were in your county. take a place like dallas, for example. they've seen an increase in hospitalizations and cases. their forecast is worse because their case are their cases. and we're seeing it in the actual evidence. however, i think the value of our forecast is that there's still time to modify behavior. and if you're a county leader or you're an individual family, and you view your forecast and see these worsened trends, the message there is what can i do today? what can we do as a community this week to try to bend that curve back? because if you wait too long, then the risk for some of this resurgence and this spike in cases becomes even higher. >> dr. david rubin, it's interesting work. i appreciate you coming on to explain it to us. >> anytime. >> thank you, sir. up next for us, as we noted president trump heading to a key coronavirus test site.
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the president is about to make his way to michigan, a
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state that factored hugely in this, our map of the 2016 presidential election. haven't had this out much during the coronavirus pandemic because health and safety is paramount. but as the president travels today he has to talk about the pandemic. he's also traveling because he tried to re-create this map in 2020. think about where the president has been in recent days, recent weeks, on his rare trips outside of washington. he went morning a week ago to the state of arizona. critical to the map in 2020. a big swing state. last week, he went to the state of pennsylvania. one of those states he flipped red. absolutely essential in 2016, a key target in 2020. today, he goes to battleground michigan to a ford plant that make ventilators and also about his quest to reopen the economy. let's take a close look at michigan and just a reminder of all of the states in 2016 you don't get much closer than that. this is absolutely critical for
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the president come november. he's trying to make the case that america is ready to reopen. michigan's governor says yes, but more slowly. listen here, he has criticized repeatedly, the president criticizing the democratic governor gretchen whitmer. she says, why don't we calm down. >> we do not have plans to meet but i did speak with him yesterday on the phone. i made the case that, you know, we all have to be on the same page here. we have to stop demonizing one another. threatening to take money away from a state that is hurting as bad as we are right now is just scary and something that is unacceptable. >> with us now is our cnn national security commentator mike rogers, he was also chairman. house intelligence committee. mr. chairman, it's good to see you. this is an interesting day in the sense in the middle of the pandemic, we talked less and less, rightly so, about politics. yet, you cannot ignore it when the president of the united states in the middle of a fight with the democratic governor of
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michigan goes back to your home state which is, of course, was essential to him in 2016? >> yeah, clearly, this is a state that trump has to win. or really, his odds get worse if he loses michigan, then the map gets worse for him pretty quickly. so he has to win it. i think that's one of the reasons he's going back. the good news general motors and ford really did step it up and go from manufacturing cars to respirators to try to fill a need in the country much like they did in world war ii. and that term arsenal of democracy begins in michigan when we stopped building airplanes and building weapons in this plant. it's tit for tat. i think the governor's most soft stance is going to probably sell better in a state like michigan than the finger wagging that the president is doing.
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i would recommend he change that tone a little bit going to the state, we're hurting. we've got flooding issues in michigan that is adding some problems to an already tight economy. and certainly, people are distressed about that as well. lots to worry about in a state like michigan. i would prefer to see them both on the same page. or at least pretending they're both on the same page. i'd even take that. >> mr. chairman, you'll not be the first and you'll not be the last to suggest that the president conduct his politics in a somewhat different with with a somewhat different tone but he trusts his instincts and reflexes which makes this so interesting. we have watched governors, if and the president is currently under water when it comes to do you approve or disapprove of the president's performance. even though that the governors are polling quite well, he's picking fights all the time, especially with the blue state governors. >> made a lot of governors look very good.
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we've actually made a lot of the governors look good. some people think they're doing it for politics. here we go again. but they think it will hurt me in the election. michigan all she does is -- she has no idea what's going on, all she does is say, oh, it's the federal government's role. and we've taken such great care of michigan. >> you don't think that tone is helpful but he did prove to us in 2016 that sometimes he goes against what you would call traditional advice, and it works for him? >> and really, this is really important to remember, john, there is a movement in michigan that is very frustrated. and the governor's had some of those kind of head-scratching rules and regulations. to give you one example, for michigan, this is big, if you can have a house up north or a cabin up north, that's a big deal in michigan. if you own one you couldn't go there if you lived in michigan but if you were in ohio and owned a northern michigan
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property, you could go there. so, those kinds of things were starting to boil over. you saw some of that with people protesting at the capital and those kind of things. i think that's where trump is going. i think president trump is looking at those and saying that's the folks i'm going to resonate with traveling to michigan. again, we're in the middle of a pandemic but also happens to be in the middle of a political campaign. i can't think of a worse stew to taste than that. because you have folks on both sides of the aisle trying to maneuver their way through this. we ought to help people, we ought to find a way to get people back to work safely and get the economy back on. but we need to do it safely. and i think working together in this case would be a much better, i think, approach to this. in a state like michigan that's got all of these other issues kind of plaguing it these days. >> another issue front and center these days how to conduct an election come november. michigan mailing out applications so everyone in the state gets it right and can
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apply for an absentee ballot. the president saying they were sending mail-in ballots. that's not correct. the president says it's an invitation to giant fraud. in your home state, democratic quite involved, this is not true. let's listen. >> if we're talk about the mail-in ballots, if people mail in ballots, there's a lot of illegality. there's forgeries, there's, frankly, duplication, they send in thousands and thousands of fake ballots. >> nothing that the secretary of state did was illegal. and i think, obviously, the president's biggest fear is that more people in our state will vote. >> well, this may be unfair to you, mr. chairman, but why can nobody shake the president on this issue? washington state has mail-in balloting for some time. most of it statewide elected officials are democrats, but not all of them. utah has mail-in balloting. republicans tend to win up and down the ballot in the state of utah. why can't anyone shake the
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president off the side here voting by mail is fraud and the proof is that's simply not true? >> i'm not sure. what we have seen in the past is that democratic institutions and organizations including the unions and in a strong union state like michigan were much better to targeted mail-in voters. i think over the years when i was certainly an elected official there, the republicans tried to keep up with that a good healthy marketing campaign is not a bad thing in politics. and it seemed to work. as a matter of fact, more older voters were voting by absentee ballot. i would encourage older voters to vote by absentee ballot, this time around, just to be safe. especially those over 65. so i think there was confusion about what was good party tactics, versus fraud. there are always case of fraud.
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you'll find little cases of fraud in many places around the country. but it doesn't seem to fit the who wholesale narrative that the president is talk about, that's why you have challengers at polls and other things to make sure the honesty is as honest as you can keep it. and i think trying to withhold money right now is not the right tactic for a place like michigan that understands, hey, we've got issues we have to get through. we'd like everybody rowing the boat in the same direction. again, i'm not saying that everybody is happy with governor whitmer in michigan, i don't think they are. but what you want to do is try to solve the problem, not highlight the difference. and that seems to me, going into this fall, it's president's tactic is, and candidly, the democrats around the country are doing the same thing. i think it's crazy. this is the most important time to set aside your political differences and work on those substantive things that we can't
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agree on. i think there's a lot we can agree on. nitpicking fighting whether you open up in a week or a day and how you do it is probably not great. i have not seen any guidelines how you do it. and i think every state has to be different to accommodate the needs of those particular states. you thank you about boston and new york, huge problems, they're very worried about reopening too fast. out west, the states have different time lines. i think each state needs to be eth powered empowered to do that. and they should be empowered by good consistent facts and i'll tell you, sometimes it's hard to tell who is right and who is wrong on the facts. that would be my focus. >> we are in changing times. chairman, i appreciate your insight. for us, masks, a new normal in life, are people actually
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self-reports. with us an assistant professor and surgeon. we brigham young hospital. governor cuomo of new york saying, hey, here's the proof that masks work, listen. >> first responders, the front line worker, wind up having a lower infection rate than the general population in that area. how can that be possibly be? because the ppe works. those masks work. >> is that scientific proof? anecdotal proof? do you believe he's right? >> i think the governor is right. and thank you, john, for having me on the show. there's now a growing body of evidence that surgical masks, as well as homemade cotton masks at home can help decrease the spread of coronavirus, if used
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as part of the whole strategy around physical distancing, hand hygiene, testing and wearing masks. so, it's an important key part of the strategy we have going forward, both in hospitals as well as in our communities. >> look, it's new for most people, right but it's something we do every day. i want to show you this quinnipiac poll. do you wear masks in public? two-thirds say yes. a third say no, maybe it's the word "required." take us through your day. some people think they're not effective? some people think they cause more harm than good, do they? >> there's no evidence that masks cause more harm than good. i'm a surgeon in my day-to-day life, both in the operating room and now because of our universal masking policy in our hospital, we wear masks even in the hallways. there's been clear data that shows that the transition rates and spread of covid-19 has been lower as a result of that. it's also just common sense.
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the way to think about masks is that while if i wear a mask i don't necessarily protect myself. but i make sure i don't necessarily spread coronavirus to my friends, family or loved ones. it's the reason why we wear seat belts. it's the reason why we follow the rules of the road, why we stop at stop signs at a four-way intersection. if everybody follows the rules, we protect not just ourselves but everybody around us. >> dr. tsai, thank you for the work you do every day. >> great. thank you, john. >> thank you, sir. we'll be right back.
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the white house now, the president of the united states about to leave for michigan. >> so, we have a lot of good things going. we just had a meeting with mitch mcconnell and the group. and we're working on a package of very positive things. we're getting some very good numbers, it looks like, the numbers are going to be very good into the future. we're going to be very strong, starting with our transition period, which will be probably june, june/july, i think you're going to see some very good numbers coming out. next year is going to be an incredible economic year for this country. one of our bests. always paying respect for the people who have lost their lives.
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we always have to remember that, the people who have lost their lives. do you have any questions, please? >> mr. president, where are you on funding? a lot of people are flooded out. >> we're looking at the floods we have people from the army corps of engineer there. we have fema there, i spoke with the governor, governor whitmer yesterday. we have a very good understanding and we've moved our best people into michigan. and the most talented engineers, designers, people from the army corps of engineers and they do these things better than probably anybody in the world. >> what about the funding? >> well, we'll take a look. we'll take a look. that was unrelated to that. [ inaudible question ]. >> russia and us have developed a very good relationship. as you know, we worked on the oil problem together. i think we have a very good relationship with russia. but russia didn't adhere to the
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treaty. until they adhere, we'll pull out. but there's a very good chance we'll make a new agreement or do something to put that agreement together. whenever there is an agreement that another party doesn't agree to, you know, we have many of those agreements around the world where it's a two-party agreement and they don't here to it and we do, when we have things like that we pull out also. that's why with the arms treaties. if you look at the arms treaty, we're probably going to make a deal with russia on the arms treaty and china will be included in that, we'll see what happens. but we have a lot of things where we have an agreement, a treaty, and the other side doesn't adhere to it, in many cases they're old treaties, old agreements, and we pull out also. so, i think what's going to happen, we're going to pull out and they're going to come back and want to make a deal. we've had a very good relationship lately with russia. you can see that with respect to oil and what's happening with
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oil. >> michael cohen got a deal today. >> i didn't know that. i didn't know that. [ inaudible question ]. >> say it. >>. [ inaudible question ] going to make things worse with russia? >> i think we're going to have a very good relationship with russia. i think if you look at what happened with oil, where russia, saudi arabia and us got og, and we saved in our country millions of energy jobs and you see oil is solidified so it's the best of both worlds. we're saving the energy but the drivers have a low energy price. >> are you going to wear a mask at the ford plant? >> i don't know, we're going to look at it. a lot of people have-x easked m that question. i want to get the country back to normal. i want to normalize. another thing i want to do is get the churches open. the churches are not being treated with respect by a lot of
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the democrat governors. i want to get the churches open and we're going to take a strong position on that very soon. [ inaudible question ]. >> mosques, yeah, including mosques. [ inaudible question ]. >> yes, i wish them well. very well. >> astrazeneca an award, $400 million for a potential new vaccine, how confident are you that it will be ready for the fall? >> well, you have astrazeneca which is a great company. and other ones like johnson & johnson, we have a lot of things happening on the vaccine front and the therapeutic front. if you look at therapeutically we're doing great. and on the cure front which is the next step. i think we have tremendous things, that announcement i heard came out this morning. that's a very positive announcement in addition to all of the other announcements.
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we are so far ahead of where people thought we would be. therapeutically it's interesting what's going none cure. so you're going to have a lot of big announcements in a week or two. >> sir, you said that the funding -- >> we're helping michigan with the flood. we have the people to do it. >> what about the funding? >> we don't want them to do mail-in ballots it's going to lead to total election fraud. we don't want them to do mail-in ballots. we don't want anybody to do mail-in ballots, now, if somebody has to mail it in because they're sick, or, by the way, because they live in the white house and they have to vote in florida and they won't be in florida, if there's a reason for it, that's okay. but if there's not, we don't want to make any chances with fraud in our election. >> china is poised to pass a security law to crack down on hong kong. are you aware of this? >> i don't know what it is
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because nobody knows yet. if it happens we'll address that issue very strongly. >> what about -- >> it looks like g7 may be on because we've done well. we're ahead of schedule in terms of our country. and some of the other countries are doing very well. looks like g7 will be on. we'll be announcing something earlier next week. [ inaudible question ]. >> i can't hear you. you have your mask on i can't hear a word -- [ inaudible question ]. >> we'll be talking to you tab it. >> how long do you think? >> i think it's another day. i had a two-week regiment of hydroxychloroquine. and i've taken it, i think, just about two weeks. i think it's another day. and i'm still here. i'm still here. and i tested very positively in another test, this morning.
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i tested positively toward negative, right. i tested perfectly this morning. meaning i tested negative. >> negative? >> positively toward the negative. >> have you taken any antibody drugs yet, sir? >> no, i have not. >> what about the report in "the new york times" that 36,000 people would have been saved if you guys would have closed things down one week earlier? >> i was so early. i was earlier than anybody thought. i put a ban on people coming from china. everybody fought me on that. they didn't want it. nancy pelosi a month later was dancing in the streets of san francisco in chinatown so people wouldn't believe what's happening. i don't even blame that but i was way early. columbia is an institution that's very liberal. i think it's just a political hit job, if you want to know the truth.
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>> -- at the white house or camp david? >> we're going to have it probably at the white house and maybe a little combination at camp david, but primarily at the white house. so if we do the g7, when that all comes together, probably it will be in d.c. at the white house. okay? but there could be a piece of it at camp david which is nearby. [ inaudible question ]. >> yeah. so, again, the relationship with russia has improved greatly, especially since the russian hoax has been proven totally false. and illegal what they did. this is an illegal hoax, and they got caught. they got caught doing a lot of bad things. let's see how that turns out but our relationship with russia has come a long way in the last few months. i think the open sky will all work out. but right now, when you have an agreement and the other side doesn't adhere to the agreement, we're not going to adhere to it either but i think something
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very positive will work out. >> what? [ inaudible question ]. >> i'm thinking about going. that will be next week, to the rocket launch, i hope you're all going to join me. i'd like to put you in the rocket and get rid of y

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