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this is cnn breaking news. >> welcome to "the lead." i'm dana bash in for jake tapper today. this afternoon president trump is declaring all houses of worship essential, claiming he will override governors to allow churches and places of worship to open. >> some governors have deemed liquor stores and abortion clinics as essential. but have left out churches and other how was worship. i call upon governors to allow our churches and places of worship to open right now. >> but white house press secretary kayleigh mcenany was unable to clarify what authority the president actually has to override governors on this. perhaps because that authority doesn't appear to exist. let's get straight to cnn white house correspondent jeremy diamond. so jeremy, instead of answering the question, very important
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questions, the press secretary deflected by suggesting reporters want houses of worship to stay closed. and good for jeff mason of reuters for pushing back on that. i know a lot of reporters, myself included, would like to go back if it's safe. so what exactly happened in there? >> reporter: that's right, dana. if there was any question about why the president was doing this, it became very clear in the white house press secretary's condescending comment about reporters and faith. the white house and the president are viewing this through the very political lens of the culture wars that so frequently animates the president's base. this is the president throwing away the state by state playbook that he has relied on. for every other business, every other organization other than places of worship, the president has deferred to the states and said we need to do this locally, you know, locality by locality, state by state. but in this case the president clearly throwing away that playbook. now, it's not clear what authority the president would have to actually override the governors or order them to open these churches and other places
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of worship up. but that was what the white house press secretary really struggled to defend from the president and instead what we got was a lot of mixed messages. >> first, just to clarify, he came out and said i'm calling upon governors to allow churches and places of worship to open up right now. dr. birx just said in areas where they have high cases of covid-19, maybe they should think about waiting a week. so which is it, and why the mixed messaging? >> that's up to the governors. >> the president said she's going to override the governors. under what authority can he do that? and to your point remember said several weeks ago this is all up to the governors. >> you're posing a hypothetical. i think we can all -- >> he said he was going to override the governors. >> you're assuming governors are going to keep churches and mosques and synagogues shut down. that's a hypothetical question. we will leave it to the -- >> the president stood there and said if governors don't -- >> we'll leave it to faith communities to reopen. >> no provision of federal law
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allows the president to override a governor. >> boy, it's interesting to be in a room that desperately wants to see these churches and how was worship stay closed. >> reporter: beyond that last answer, dana, what you heard there from the white house press secretary was a contradiction of what the president was saying. she was saying it's up to the governors, it's up to the faith community. it's not clear where the white house stands on this now where the president said one thing and the white house press secretary said another. dr. deborah birx also said let's rely on the faith communities to make these decisions. as the president is putting aside public health concerns in favor of a broad based national reopening of places of worship, what you heard from dr. deborah birx in the white house briefing today was concerns about rising case counts, continuing rising case counts in several metro areas including in particular right here in washington, d.c. dana? >> that's right, that was disturbing. and if it is hypothetical, as kayleigh mcenany was saying,
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then why did we hear the president come out and threaten the governors? that was the fundamental question that went unanswered. jeremy, thank you for that report. the cdc has just issued the new recommendations for churches and places of worship that the white house and the president was referring to this afternoon. let's get straight to nick valencia live in atlanta who has been all over these issues at the cdc, great reporting. nick, what do you see and hear today and how does that compare with what you saw, even what the public wasn't supposed to see, that the cdc had prepared beforehand? >> reporter: one of the more interesting points is just how it starts out, dana, saying that this is nonbinding public health guidance. it's language we really haven't seen at all, not in the drafts that were leaked to the press or really any of the final products that have come out from the cdc. these recommendations were anticipated for weeks and we got our hands on it first. here are some of the details laid out the in the
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recommendations. providing protections for high risk staff and congregants, supply soap, hand sanitizer, taushs, tissues, no-touch trash cans. earlier this week we got a 60-page final document from the cdc, recommendations for reopening america safely. noticeably absent from those recommendations were any for faith-based institutions. a very astute point by jeremy diamond, saying this directly plays into the president's base. we're hearing from officials at the cdc, there was a lot of debate over these recommendations between the office of hhs civil rights division and senior leaders at the cdc, hhs feeling that the cdc was restricting religion,
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the cdc saying they were just trying to save sxlielives and t hope these recommendations do just that. >> because so many hotspots in so many places of worship, really that was the beginning, especially here in washington, d.c., the beginning of the coronavirus outbreak. nick, before i let you go, even before these cdc guidelines were released or you got your hands on them, some church leaders were feeling pressure in their own communities to remain closed. what are you hearing? >> reporter: yeah, well, look behind us here, we're having the viewing for retired former leader of this congregation in east atlanta. we asked the members we saw here going in and out, are they worried about the pushback they get from the community. they said they're doing the best they can, they're following what at the time they thought were draft recommendations from the cdc, wiping down hymnal books,
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wiping down the pews, social distancing is in place here, only letting in ten at a time. this church specifically telling me there's a mixed reaction from their par i guess hers g guess . older congregants are more concerned. the senior leader at the church says he's not sure he wants to reopen, but if and when he does, he wants to be sure to follow the cdc guidelines, dana. >> nick, thank you so much for the excellent reporting, i appreciate it. now i want to bring in cnn chief legal analyst jeffrey toobin as well as dr. peter hotez, dean of the school of tropical medicine at baylor university and the co-director of the center for vaccine development at texas children's hospital. gentlemen, thank you so much, both of you. jeffrey, first, on the legality of all this, the white house press secretary, who does have a law degree, couldn't answer or didn't want to answer that, so let me ask you, is there any ability legally for the president to actually override any governor who does not want
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to open houses of worship in their states? >> absolutely not. the president doesn't have this authority. and the reason kayleigh mcenany didn't answer that question is because she couldn't. the cdc is giving recommendations. they are of course free to issue recommendations. but it is up to the states. this is a core state function. it's like the state has every right to tell a church or a synagogue, you have to have fire alarms in your building, you have to have fire extinguishers. this is something that state governments do. the federal government does not have the ability to override that or change it in any way, because the federal government's powers are limited under the constitution and this isn't one that they have. >> so, no precedent that you know of for anything like this. >> no. this is a political act by the
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president to appeal to his base and make people who are looking like -- who are asking questions about it, like these reporters, like a bunch of heathens. but all these people, all the reporters are doing is pointing out what the president is saying, that he can require this sort of obedience from governors, is simply not true under the law. >> let's look at the medical side of this. dr. hotez, what do you make of the new guidance that our nick valencia got his hands on from the cdc for houses of worship? >> you know, if you look at what the cdc actually says, it's actually quite -- they're very respectful, first of all, there's a nice preamble explaining that they recognize that worship is central to american life, and discuss this. and what they say is, what we really have to do is tailor this, i think the word they use
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is practical, feasible, and acceptable. that's very important language. the bottom line is if there's a significant level of virus transmission going on in your community, this is not a time to assemble in gatherings, whether it's churches or anything else, because the virus doesn't recognize what's a house of worship and what's a basketball game. so it's really critical that any individual contemplating going to a religious service or a minister or someone who's making a decision about their church or synagogue or mosque have that situational awareness, to know the level of transmission in their community, have a discussion with their public health authorities, and then you can make a rational decision. but otherwise, you could subject a lot of the congregants to serious illness. >> and again, the point you're making and that nick valencia was making, these religious leaders are not doctors, they
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want the guidance from the medical professionals on what to do as they begin to reopen. and jeffrey, back to you, you heard nick talking about it this, the cdc, the guidance is that places of worship should follow the directives of state and local authorities. meanwhile, the president is warning, well, if they don't listen to me, you know, i'm going to supersede, which i know you say is not legal, but just in terms of a federal agency like the cdc giving a direct recommendation, listen to your state and local authorities, how do you square that? >> you can't square that, because they're contradictory. the cdc is doing what the federal government is supposed to do, using its enormous expertise and resources to provide guidance to the states about what's safe and what's not. but the ultimate decision about what facilities are open and what facilities are not are up to the states.
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as the doctor said, the virus doesn't know what building it's in. the virus doesn't know if it's a barbershop or, you know, a grocery store. and it's up to the local authorities, judging from their local conditions where there are outbreaks some places and not others, to make these judgments. but the idea that the president can override a governor on houses of worship is simply not true under the constitution. the president doesn't have that power. he can make recommendations as the cdc is doing, but this is a power of local government. >> and dr. hotez, i want you to listen to what dr. deborah birx said this afternoon from the white house briefing room when she was asked specifically about the safety of churches reopening. >> and i think what we're trying to say with the cdc guidance is, there's a way for us to work
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together to have social distancing and safety for people so that we decrease the amount of exposure anyone would have to an asymptomatic. and i say it that way because i know all of you and all of americans, if they didn't feel well, they wouldn't go to church that day. >> so of course, doctor, the cdc released a report saying about 40% of all transmission of coronavirus is from people without symptoms. in a different part of her press conference, dr. birx acknowledged that, and the dangers of asymptomatic people still spreading the virus. so are you surprised by dr. birx's answers specifically on the question of churches and other places of worship? >> well, you know, as we all have been talking about, dr. birx is in a tight spot. she's trying to make the best medical and public health recommendations in a pretty volatile environment right now. and everything is heated right now.
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and it's going to get worse in the weeks going up to the election. i think, you know, the really important point that i've been stressing is, this epidemic is not spread homogenously across the country. there is tremendous variability not only state by state but town by town. and therefore a situation in a town in the panhandle of texas might look very different from the midwest or new york city or philadelphia. so it's really important that we've detailed knowledge on this epidemic, again, through the testing, through hospital surveillance, contact tracing, syndromic surveillance. and then we can make rational decisions on what to recommend in houses of worship and elsewhere. >> dr. hotez, thank you so much, stick around for us. jeffrey toobin, nice to see you again, we'll get back to you,
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is your life, according to an observational study published in "the lancet" today. seriously ill patients who were treated with hydroxychloroquine were more likely to die or develop dangerous heart problems. dr. peter hotez is back with us along with cnn's senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen. elizabeth, let me start with you. what exactly does this study say and why is it so significant? >> dana, one of the reasons why this is so significant is this is by far the largest city that's looked at hospitalized patients sort of retrospectively to see how they did when they were given these drugs. let's take a look at the numbers. 671 hospitals looked at patients in six different continents. nearly 15,000 patients who received hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine, sometimes in combination with other drugs. what they found is that the patients who got those drugs were 33 to 45% more likely to die even after they adjusted for
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the fact that the patients who got the drugs were sicker than the patients who didn't get the drugs to begin with. also they were between 2.4 and 5 times more likely to develop heart arrhythmias. according to every agency out there and every expert i talked to, they said, look, this means we should not be giving these drugs to hospitalized patients unless it's part of some study. the question is could these drugs prevent coronavirus. that's possible. anything is possible. but, you know, there's a question, how much do we really -- how many resources do we want to expend on studying whether it can work preventively when we see it makes people sick? >> and the president says he's taking it. dr. hotez, what's your reaction to this study on hydroxychloroquine? >> right. as elizabeth says, this was a big study, 96,000 patients.
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631 sites. and what concerned me also was, it wasn't just arrhythmias but what they call ventricular arrhythmias which is a very serious arrhythmia that can be associated with progression to death very quickly, because the heart stops pumping effectively. so clearly as a treatment this thing is -- we have to stop it. we have the first study out of brazil that showed no benefit and serious heart disease, then two studies published last week in "the british medical journal" confirming this, and now this. even as prophylaxis, we had some evidence about a decade ago that this works in the test tube against influenza. it was then tried as a preventive, as a prophylactic, and it failed at that. so at this point there is really very little evidence that's worth considering to continue
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hydroxychloroquine. >> liz, something else published in "the lancet" today, promising findings when it comes to a vaccine. what does it say? >> i would say they were findings. dr. hotez will help us put sort of a value on these. this looked at 108 patients who received a vaccine that was developed by a chinese company. what they found when they looked at these 108 patients, they gave them either a high dose of the vaccine, a medium, or a low. two important findings. one relates to safety and one relates to the immune response that the vaccine elicited. when they looked at safely, half of them developed fevers and other side effects, half of them, when you looked across all three doses. when you looked at the medium and low doses, half of them did not develop neutralizing antibodies. so half of the patients at the medium and low dose didn't get the kind of immune response you look for. they'll move forward with those
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medium and low doses, they won't do the high doses because there were so many side effect issues. so they're moving forward with something that's shown not to elicit the right immune response in half the people. the experts i've been speaking with say this is not impressive. one doctor, a vaccine developer himself, dr. paul offutt at the university of pennsylvania, thinks they ought to abandon ship, these results show it's not worth continuing. not everyone agrees with that, but certainly i haven't talked to anyone who is jumping up and down and saying that this is wonderful news. >> okay, doctor, this is your area of expertise, what say you? >> yeah, i don't know that this kills the vaccine yet, but they are not really strong results in terms of immune response. the study out of harvard medical school, that we talked about earlier this week, showed that protection seems to be -- with the covid-19 vaccine, seems to
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be associated with neutralizing antibodies which bind to the surfaces of viruses and prevent the virus from attaching to our human tissues. and in this study, the level of neutralizing antibodies was pretty low, lower than what we've been seeing in the few reported studies in patients who have been infected with the virus and then survived. so that's concerning. potentially you could rescue this vaccine with another dose or another option is what's called a prime boost strategy, what you do is use this adenovirus vaccine as the immunizing dose and then boost it with another type of vaccine, a recombinant protein vaccine. this has been tried to some success to boost antibody responses. this may be a way to improve the performance of the vaccine. we'll also find out what happens with the two other adenovirus vaccines that will go into human
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trials in the united states, the astro zeneca one, that's also an adenovirus vaccine, and the j&j vaccine. >> the point you made there at the end, people can rest assured, even if there are problems with this, there are lots of other vaccines in development certainly being fast tracked. thank you both for your expertise and your reporting, i appreciate it. coming up, a holiday weekend during a pandemic. what you need to know about what's open and what is safe. that's next. joe mantegna: an american tradition continues.
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in our national lead, the long memorial day weekend will look drastically different this year, not just for families grappling with new restrictions, but for towns that depend on tourism and activities to survive. some beaches in new jersey are allowing groups of up to ten people but the hours are restricted. no one is allowed to get into the water and police will be enforcing social distancing rules. just listen to the mayor of
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point pleasant beach in nudew jersey earlier today. >> we're trying to give everybody the benefit of the doubt but we won't let the public be in danger. nobody wants to be the mayor from "jaws" who lets the people back in the water a little too soon, right? >> as cnn's kuyung lah reports, this is a major test to figure out how to reopen the country. >> we're about to start a very important weekend. >> reporter: the first summer holidays weekend, a major test of america versus the virus as millions head outside. >> it's nice to have the option to at least come to the beach and have some fun with friends for once. >> i think it will be very busy. and i'm confident people will want to do this in a safe manner because we know if things don't work, we may go back to a lockdown situation and i don't think anybody wants that. >> reporter: beaches up and down the coast will be enforcing social distancing. >> a beach ambassador will ask for law enforcement to come and
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actually enforce the governor's executive orders for the distancing. >> reporter: but different rules depending on where you are. >> i don't think it's realistic or practical to ask people to go to the beach and wear a mask. >> reporter: while america dives ahead, data shows this week more states are heading in the wrong direction. in the weekly average of new cases, nine states here in green are down. 24 states are steady. and 17 states in red and orange are up. 25,000 new cases in the u.s. added just yesterday. among the steepest climbs, arkansas. the state saw a 65% increase in the rate of new cases compared to a week ago. the state still opening water parks and pools today with restrictions. and nearby alabama, crowds packed beaches today, despite warnings that more cases would stress an already stretched montgomery hospital system,
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where icu beds run short. >> i'm quite worried with the memorial day weekend coming and many restrictions loosening, that this is going to go like prairie fire again. it's been smoldering, we've had a lid on it, but it is now really having the potential to get out of control. >> reporter: trying to control a crisis in navajo nation, home to the highest per capita infection rate in the country, the territory will order a 57-hour lockdown starting tonight. in texas, bars are open for the holiday weekend. but in california, far slower movement, despite improvement in some cities. the first state to order a statewide shutdown is now seeing a rate of new cases at twice what it was at the start of april. this ominous image at an l.a. stadium showed the strain on california's tourism. these are unused rental cars. so many, the empty ballpark lot
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is now storage. here is something that bears reminding. as you decide where to put that beach blanket down on the beach, as you decide how close to sit next to a fellow patron at the restaurant or a bar that might newly be opened this weekend, the virus deaths, if they continue on the pace that they are in the united states, dana, are expected to top 100,000 by the end of this memorial day weekend. so certainly a grim marker, dana. >> grim and chilling. kyueng, thank you so much for that report. joining me is the mayor of seaside heights, new jersey. mayor, thank you for joining me. you will allow people to sit and stand on the beaches before they were open for walking, for exercising. but there are still a lot of restrictions. no one is allowed to go swimming, for example. how are you going to enforce
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those rules beyond having police officers around, i mean, how aggressive will they have to get? >> again, we want to use caution. we purposely did not open our swimming area, for lack of manpower for a better word. we had a soft opening last week and it went very well. we watched people courteous to one another, social distancing. things went well. this is a weekend now that we're going to watch again to make sure that we're following the mandates of the state, the guidance of the state. so we're watching closely. >> what kind of punishment will people face if they don't follow the rules that you've laid out? >> again, we're looking at both the community, the business people on the boardwalk, and we're looking at the beach itself. we're hoping that people react like they did last time. but if they don't, we will enforce it with summonses and they'll have to pay a fine and
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be told to leave the beach or boardwalk. >> as you know, new jersey has been one of the hardest-hit states by the coronavirus. just today your governor announced more than 1,300 cases, 146 new deaths. how hard is it for you as a mayor to balance health risks that you're seeing every day versus an economic toll that staying closed would have on your shore town? >> it's very difficult. we position ourselves with our preplanning, where health conditions would be a primary goal to achieve. the business area is suffering. there's no question about it. we're a community of businesses. it runs from may to september. livelihoods are all affected by desires. so we're looking at pacing. we're looking at phasing in. we work cooperatively with the governor's office, with the governor himself, his team. we offer suggestions, we offer solutions that we believe could
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possibly be beneficial to our community as well as for health. >> real quick, you have said that the pandemic has been worse for your town than hurricane sandy. how so? >> during hurricane sandy, everything was visible. you saw infrastructure, you saw damage. we had no water, no electric and so forth. there were things you could see and repair. the virus is not seen. and there are three groups of people. the groups of people are, i fear everything, i'm not going anywhere, i'm staying in my home. the other group says, i've had it, i can't stay home anymore, i've got to get out. and then the third group says, you know what, i know there's a virus out there, i'm frightened, but with caution, i think we'll survive. we're looking at the third group and saying, let's see what we can do to have a livelihood, have a good summer, to have enjoyment. >> let's hope that all happens.
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as a jersey girl, i have fond memories of your town of seaside heights. i appreciate it, good luck, mr. mayor, this weekend, and i hope everybody is safe and sound. >> thank you, dana. >> thank you. some employees may never return to the office, instead working at home. what that means for your workplace and the future of american cities, next. in a plac. but when you have the chase mobile app, your bank can be virtually any place. so, when you get a check... you can deposit it from here. and you can see your transactions and check your balance from here. you can detect suspicious activity on your account from here. and you can pay your friends back from here. so when someone asks you, "where's your bank?" you can tell them: here's my bank. or here's my bank. or, here's my bank. because if you download and use the chase mobile app, your bank is virtually any place. so visit chase.com/mobile.
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facebook says remote working will be more permanent in the wake of this pandemic. in fact within the next five to ten years, facebook expects about half of its employees to
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work from home full-time. cnn tech correspondent brian fung joins me now. brian, you've gone some really great reporting on this. it includes the fact that facebook is hardly the only silicon valley company to adopt remote working, right? >> reporter: that's right, dana. the tech industry has really led the way on remote work. companies like amazon, apple, microsoft, and google have all told their workers they shouldn't expect to come in until the fall or perhaps even the end of the year. and twitter last week became the first company to move to adopt a permanent work-from-home solution that could apply to many of its employees. but really it's facebook that really is going to set a milestone here, because it's the biggest social media company on the planet. a lot of companies take their cues from this, you know, much larger behemoth. ultimately it could have an impact on everything from wages to real estate to the way new startups are going.
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>> so you mentioned real estate. let's look at that. tech companies have spent billions on perks and office space. two years ago apple built massive doors that slide open for an indoor/outdoor dining space. overstock.com built a campus, look at that incredible mountain view. what happens to that real estate if employees aren't going into work? >> reporter: that's a great question. it will be different for different companies. some startups are downsizing and moving to on-demand office spaces, kind of like airbnb for office space. others, big companies, those office spaces aren't going away, they own them, now they have to figure out what to do with them. experts say they're just going to have to be a lot more creative with that use of space and maybe, you know, companies like cisco which only companiex 15% of its workers to be back in the fall, that square footage
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will be important because workers will have to be spaced out for social distancing purposes. meanwhile, remote workers will have to potentially face a pay cut. facebook says they'll be tailoring compensation based on where people are living. they'll have to report where they're working from by january 1. >> that makes sense. and then we've been talking mostly about white collar jobs, obviously. if white collar workers work from home that means that other workers who serve those white collar workers will be without a job, right? >> reporter: that's right, a lot of people could be left behind by this. people like cafeteria workers, security guards, cleaning crews and even shuttle drivers. some experts say these people might end up working in the gig economy which offers certainly some flexibility but very little in the way of benefits, dana. >> brian fung, thank you so much for that report, appreciate it. up next, brazil.
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in our world lead, coronavirus cases are exploding in latin america. the latest coronavirus hotspot. mexico is reporting nearly 3,000 more deaths on thursday. the largest one-day increase for that country. brazil also had its deadliest day and is now the country with the third highest number of total cases, surpassing 300,000 behind russia and the u.s. in some of the poorest areas in brazil, cramped living spaces have created breeding grounds for the virus to spread. cnn's nick paton walsh is in sao
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paulo to see how this disease is spreading among the most vulnerable. >> reporter: brazil has always had the haves and the have-nots. but in sao paulo, coronavirus has the poor going it alone more than ever. we followed emergency workers through the dense streets that fuel the fire they're fighting. this is the place people don't want to live in. yet it's packed all the time because of poverty. in these densely-packed alleyways you can tell there's a real risk of a high infection rate. renata says she tests only when a patient has three symptoms and even those tests are paid for by private donations. mostly the test is done, she tells me, when the person is already in an advanced stage of the disease. cases can be tough. one woman needed eight people to
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carry her to an ambulance because of obesity. it's hard. up above is maria, 53, who caught the virus despite being masked up in the market, she says. so she's distancing. even yesterday, the owner of the pharmacy died, she tells me. many are losing their lives due to someone's carelessness. renata is part of a wide operation. medicine but masks too, teaching people how to make them and giving them machines to do it. also food. 10,000 meals a day sent out in small numbers into the community because lockdown means they can't put food on their own tables. this as a community in some ways already isolated economically, saving itself. they have a place where the sick are sent to isolate in, a former school. we can't film patients inside. everything here is done at a
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distance. she says the worst is yet to come. it's pretty likely these beds will soon, sadly, be full. a school given over to this purpose by the government. but an operation here funded by private donations. the bigger test here, how this amazing spirit of community holds up when the peak makes these streets seem even deadlier. now, that peak could just be a week to two weeks away here in sao paulo. we saw yesterday how deaths reached a record. these are deaths that are known to be reportably connected to coronavirus. testing is hard to come by here. officially you need three of these symptoms, often, to get a test from government sources, even in a place like there where there isn't much government to
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speak of. things are likely to get bad in the weeks ahead and the government is putting out conflicting advice, dana. >> such a heartbreaking story and an important one. thank you so much for bringing that to us, nick paton walsh. tune in to cnn sunday night as fareed zakaria investigates "china's deadly secret" sunday night at 9:00 p.m. schools and colleges across the nation are trying to figure out how to reopen and when. cnn will talk to the president of a major university about what their semester will look like, ahead. joe mantegna: an american tradition continues.
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be sure to tune in sunday for cnn's "state of the union." our guests, white house economic adviser kevin hassett, new jersey governor phil murphy, florida senator rick scott. i'll be in the chair for jake at noon eastern and 9:00 a.m. our coverage on cnn continues right now. this is cnn breaking news. >> welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. we're following breaking news. the us death toll from the coronavirus pandemic has now surpassed 95,000 people with almost 1.6 million confirmed cases here in the u.s. worldwide, there are now more than 5 million cases and more than 335,000

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