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his thoughts on that. he did make a little bit of news, saying he hadn't been tested for coronavirus but is a-okay so far, he talked about the veep states how they're in the process of black women, asian women, latino women, should have an answer for everyone as far as who they select some time early august and may even put out a short list of potential supreme court justices, african-american women justices. let's talk about all of what we just heard. david chalian, mj lee. david chalian, first and foremost, what do you think? how did he do? >> this was a blistering critique of the president's management or as joe biden would say, sort of lack thereof when it comes to battling coronavirus. we know, we've heard joe biden for the better part of a year, brooke say thematically the campaign, the rationale for his candidacy is for the battle of the soul of the nation. what you heard today was
specific of coronavirus and the presidential leadership around battling covid is the thing that joe biden is putting front and center in this campaign, what this campaign is about, and he went through a whole tale of the tape versus what he proposed and what the president is doing, and then went through some things he would be doing right now. significantly, he said that the commander in chief, who said he should be considered a war-time president in this, is in retreat, is surrendering, is waving the white flag. this was joe biden saying, mr. president, you may try to tweet about things and distract and program conversation elsewhere, but i, joe biden, i'm going to make this campaign about this huge pandemic the country is facing and right now is getting worse, and i'm blaming your leadership, and he's putting forth himself as the alternative. >> there he was a couple of times holding up his mask, that we know the president, despite all of the guidelines, refuses
to wear a mask. the behavior between these two men as far as covid is concerned could not be more different. >> that's right, brooke. what we are seeing right now are two presidential candidates visually campaigning so differently, and we saw that perfectly today with biden. you know, we've not seen him out on the campaign trail in person every single day, in large part because of covid, but in the recent events that we have attended, we have seen both biden, the candidate, and biden's campaign and his aides really making a point to try to demonstrate that they are trying to follow, to a tee, the advice being given by public health officials and doctors and experts. we saw him, as we said, waving that mask a couple of times, practically begging people to please put on a mask. this is what will help contain the virus. we saw in that press conference that he had every reporter
sitting in a little circled area that was marked off to make sure that they were distant from other reporters. you know, last week when i was with the biden campaign, covering him in pennsylvania, it was noteworthy that when he came out of the event, there were a group of supporters outside, yelling across the lawn at him, and he shouted back at them, i'm going to come back when i can shake your hand. the clearer message being, it is not a safe time for me to mingle with you and shake your hand. and all of this is just in such stark contrast to the president and his behavior, who frankly has not been setting a good example, has been setting a bad example, refusing to wear a mask, the lack of social distancing that we are seeing from him and some of his closest aides, and, of course, we can't forget the indoor rally that he held days ago, where the president himself and many of the thousands of attendees were simply not masked. unfortunately, we of course know that politics is colliding with
public health right now. he addressed, biden, today the issue, the fact of the simple idea of putting on a mask has become politicized. so many people are wondering right now if the president were taking some of these precautions himself, if he were going out in public and putting on a mask, would that convince a lot of other people who are on the fence to put on a mask themselves? he is, after all, the president of the united states. >> can i just make one other point? >> yeah, david, go ahead. >> that i think joe biden was trying to do here? you see it reflected in the polls. this notion of empathy. he tied the science and the mask wearing to not about protecting yourself, but actually trying to keep others safe, your co-workers, family members, friends, people in your community, and communal response that is required. he was constantly contrasting that by showing the president is
not taking responsibility for the collective health of the american people. you see it when you ask people, who do you think sort of represents, cares more about people like you, that empathy factor? what joe biden was trying to portray here, in addition to the specifics and the science, was also just the difference in value judgment there between these two candidates. >> stand by, both of you. arlette saenz is up. we heard both of your questions. we're talking on how the vice president really drew this contrast and also to dafvid's note empathy, how it's not just about me, me, me, but about the greater good and appealing to our better angels, being safer and wearing masks. he hadn't been tested for coronavirus. he has been pretty healthy. as far as any of the coronavirus headlines, what did you think of joe biden? >> reporter: well, i think biden here was very clearly trying to draw that contrast with the
president. he outlined steps that he believes that the president needs to take as far as providing ppe for people as they return to the workplace, also ramping up testing and vaccines, and also setting some economic guidelines so that the states which right now we're doing a state-by-state approach. he thinks perhaps there needs to be some broader economic guidelines given to a lot of these states. but you also heard biden outlining where he thinks president trump has gone wrong and failed with his leadership, starting back to the start of the coronavirus pandemic. and biden said that he doesn't believe that right now we need a cheerleader. he said that the country needs a president. and take a listen to what else he had to say about president trump, saying that he is surrendering to the coronavirus. >> it's almost july and it seems like our war-time president has surrendered, waved the white flag and left the battlefield.
today we're facing a serious threat and we have to meet it. we have to meet it as one country, but the president gives no direction. we can't continue like this. half recovery and half getting worse. we can't continue. half wearing masks and half rejecting science. we can't continue. half with a plan and half just hoping for the best. >> reporter: so, biden there stressing that he thinks president trump needs to take a stronger approach in addressing the coronavirus pandemic. as you mentioned, i asked biden if he, himself, has been tested for covid-19, given the fact that he has been out in public, holding these small campaign events for the past month. he said he has not been tested yet. one, because he hasn't experienced any symptoms and two, he doesn't want to take tests away from people who may need them but did say he will be
tested relatively soon and noted that the secret service, even his own daughter was tested for coronavirus before coming to see him. so that is where that currently stands with the former vice president, but it's very clear that biden is trying to present this contrast in leadership style and also a management plan, as coronavirus has really become a central issue of this campaign so far. >> you know where else he's really -- where he contrasted himself and the current president, when it comes to russia, right? the reporting is that it was russia who, you know, basically bribed the taliban militants to kill coalition forces. that would be americans. that would be british. and so many, many of the questions were to biden, who he was able to say i was vice president. i've spoken to putin a number of times. this is how i would have handled it. dafbd, to your point about empathy, bringing up beau, if his late son beau biden instead had been in afghanistan than iraq, you know. just thinking of these families
with their loved ones in harm's way. he's basically saying, again, i would handle this totally differently. >> yep. he called it a dereliction of duty, is what he called the president for either not getting briefed on it, or getting briefed and taking no action. so, the white house has said that the president has not been briefed on this issue, brooke, but what joe biden called it today was a dereliction of duty because one of either scenario, that he didn't get briefed, didn't sit down with all the intelligence chiefs and say let's get to the bottom of this, or he did get briefed and he took no action, didn't gather his joint chiefs and say how are we going to protect the forces? so this was also just a dramatic critique from joe biden on this one issue should this reporting bear out and be true. it's an evolving situation.
>> dereliction of duty and he also called it a betrayal. mj, on the veep stakes, who might he choose as a running mate? he said they're in the hard vet. you've been talking to him. talk to me about what you know. they're in a hard vet with latino women, asian women and black women. when might they make up their minds? >> reporter: well, you know, the selection of a vice presidential nominee, as you know, brooke, is one of the most closely guarded political processes you see in a presidential election year. we do know, of course, some of the names that have been out there. cnn has reported on how this moment of national reckoning over race, all of that has contributed to biden himself and the campaign, feeling like it is a moment that deserves that kind of recognition. it could potentially affect
whether or not biden himself feels the kind of pressure to choose a person of color, particularly a black woman as his running mate. we didn't expect biden, in a press conference, to make any kind of news or sort of show his cards in any way about who he might choose. i did think it was note worthy when he was asked whether the previously stated timeline of august 1st as still what they were thinking. remember, he has said in the past, i hope to have someone decided by around august 1st. he said well, i don't know if i can guarantee the august 1st timeline, but it will be some time before the democratic convention. so, again, we didn't make -- expect him to make any news on this. this is not something that they are wanting to discuss publicly but, clearly, he is trying to emphasize that the pool of people and candidates that he is looking at right now are diverse, and he also said even if the person did not necessarily have a lot of foreign policy experience, he was discussing this in the
context of the whole russia question, he said what is really important is that the person have a certain kind of intellectual capacity. obviously, you assume that anybody that the campaign is looking at seriously would meet that standard. brooke? >> and to your point about the reckoning on race in this country, arlette, my final question to you, your first question to the former vice president is about what's going on to monuments around the country being taken down and your question about is that the right approach to respecting our nation's history? what was his response and what did you make of it? >> reporter: well, biden really was trying to make a distinction here in this debate when it comes to some of these monuments. he's saying that those monuments to confederate generals or confederate soldiers, that those belong in museums. but then when it came to george washington or thomas jefferson, people who were slave owners. and he said that those need to be handled differently. in some respects, need to be
protected by the government. so, biden, in this debate, trying to draw that distinction between those two different groups of monuments and memorials. i also think it's worth noting in addition to all of this, this was the first time that biden took questions from reporters since early april. this was the first time that many of us had access to him in an event. and you heard the line of questioning running across many topics, and hopefully something we'll continue to see from the former vice president as we get closer to the general election. >> one of the questions was, is he preparing for debates with president trump. >> reporter: uh-huh. >> and his answer, i can hardly wait. flashing that joe biden smile. we'll leave it there, arlette, david and mj, thank you very much. we're just about to july, four months away from election day. >> still ahead here on cnn, a new warning from dr. anthony fauci as coronavirus cases are on the rise. he said he wouldn't be surprised
part of the country even though in other parts of the country they're doing well, they are vulnerable. i made that point very clearly last week at a press conference. we can't just focus on those area areas that are having the surge. it puts the entire country at risk. we're having 40,000 plus cases a day. i would not be surprised if we go up to 100,000 cases a day if this doesn't turn around. >> the time to turn this around is now. 17 states are trying to reverse course, rolling back their plans to reopen. massachusetts and new jersey are now joining the tri-state area, asking individuals traveling from hot spot states to quarantine upon entry. jason carroll is live in new york where the governor has put new travel restrictions in place. jason, what exactly are they asking folks to do? >> the list keeps growing, doesn't it, brooke? you have new jersey,
connecticut, new york. they've all decided to ban together and double the number of states they're asking people to come in and quarantine from. it used to be eight states. now it's 16 including california, georgia and nevada. if you come in from any of those 16 states and are coming to a place like new york, you are now going to have to quarantine for 14 days. >> clearly, we are not in total control right now. >> reporter: coronavirus task force member dr. anthony fauci and cdc director dr. robert redfield testifying before a senate committee on what needs to be done to stop the spread of the coronavirus. >> it is critical that we all take the personal responsibility to slow the transmission of covid-19 and embrace the universal use of face coverings. >> we recommend masks for everyone on the outside. >> in the face of a nationwide crisis, the country's top
infectious disease expert says no guarantee a vaccine will come by the end of the year. >> hopefully, there will be doses available by the beginning of next year. >> their testimony comes as 36 states are seeing an increase in new cases, so much so, more than a dozen states have paused or rolled back on their reopening plans. late yesterday, arizona's governor, who was quick to reopen some businesses, ordered bars, movie theaters, gyms and pools closed for the next 30 days. this, after state health officials reported an alarming number of cases in arizona, now almost 75,000 reported infections, up from more than 46,000 cases ten days ago. >> our expectation is that next week, our numbers will be worse. >> ahead of the fourth of july weekend, bars and beaches closed from coast to coast, from california to florida. >> it is time for us to have a corrective course correction.
>> in florida as well where bars are closed for the second time and beaches off limits in miami, ft. lauderdale and palm beach. >> we don't have a lot of tools left in the kit right now. so, you know, we're trying everything we can to stop the spread and reverse what is a very enormous spike in our community and in our state. >> doctors in some of the surge states say they're now seeing covid-19 in younger patients than earlier in the pandemic, and sicker patients as well. >> they need much more mechanical ventilation to breathe through the machine. they need more medications to keep their blood pressure high. the resources we're spending are much more than last time. >> reporter: doctors in hard-hit texas fighting the same battle. >> paeshs are cotients are comi times sicker than they were weeks ago. people are waiting too long to come to the hospital and by the time they come to me, they are
near death. >> reporter: bars closed to help stop the spread with young people. group of bar owners now suing the texas governor, arguing that the order of closing their businesses is unconstitutional. states such as new york and new jersey have gotten past the worst of it. even so, new jersey's governor not moving forward with indoor dining this week, after seeing images of what he called knucklehead behavior by patrons not social distancing. >> we've cracked the back of this virus, unlike any other state. i can't fathom, we can't fathom going through that again. and, again, we know that indoors this thing is a lot more lethal than it is outdoor. >> very serious message there. brooke, as for that senate hearing, the director of the cdc during that hearing also blasting american airlines for the airline's decision not to block out their middle seat, thereby preventing folks traveling on their planes from practicing social distancing. dr. redfield said he was
disappointed by that decision and said it basically sends the wrong message. brooke? >> we learn this had past weekend was the busiest weekend since this whole pandemic began. >> yes. >> jason, thank you. good to see you. dr. jorge rodriguez, internal medicine and viral specialist. dr. rodriguez, it's always a pleasure. >> thank you. >> we are now seeing 17 states, 17 reverse course on reopening. is it too late? can you put the toothpaste back in the tube here? >> i don't think you can put much of the toothpaste back in the tube. seriously, that's what people need to realize. it's almost as if this were some sort of game to a lot of people. you keep trying to, you know, sort of press and extend the boundaries as to what you can get away with. the virus doesn't care. you know, the virus is -- we are two weeks behind the virus. so, things that already happened two weeks ago, you really can't undo those. and i agree completely with dr. tony fouauci in the fact that w
will reach 100,000 cases per day. this virus, one person, on average, infects three people and we're already into thousands. as you can tell by all the reports you just gave, the hospitals again are becoming completely full in the icus. so, we need to start drastic action now, as a lot of states are doing. >> you brought up icu beds. we just heard the sound bite from that doctor in houston, where they're really having issues. in harris county, when it comes to icu beds. there was a clip of him saying i'm seeing patients. they're coming to me in the hospital and they're ten times sicker. i think he was saying people are waiting and waiting and waiting till the last minute to have to come in. is that why they would be sicker? >> probably a couple of reasons. one is people are probably waiting more.
hopefully, this is not some change of the virus that is making it more virulent or just creating disease that's a log lot stronger. i also think, and i don't know any of these statistics, but we need to stop the myth that this disea disease, this infection is just for older people. for people who didn't think that they were going to get that sick, their immune system was, quote, unquote, extra strong, maybe they're waiting and not seeking medical care. this disease does not see any boundaries. it has no biases. over 50% of the people that are getting infected and getting sick now are under the age of 50. it affects everybody. >> totally. dr. fauci was just testifying about that today, saying everyone wear masks, and i'm talking to you gen-z and millennials. >> here's mine. >> exactly. exactly. it is apparent that this patchwork of state-by-state guidance that the white house seems to be referring to isn't
working. obviously, federal guidelines would help but that doesn't seem to be happening, dr. rodriguez. what is the next best thing? >> i've become a little more militant about this, brooke, in the fact that we need to start putting teeth behind these requirements. i don't think they should be requirements. i think they should be mandates. it's time to take this seriously. in listening and seeing joe biden, it gave me a certain amount of hope, because what we have been lacking is a clear, concise and consistent message from the leadership of this country. we are 50 different states, but this is something where everybody needs to do the same thing at the same time. and perhaps it's time for the federal government to start requiring, not just recommending, but requiring what states need to do. and if that means the federal government needs to get on its bully pulpit and maybe sort of
sway lack of federal funding to certain states if they don't comply, then so be it. >> that's coming from -- you're asking for something from a president who doesn't even wear a mask. >> well, correct. that's exactly what the problem is. listen, the fish rots from the head down. and if you don't see that, people that don't want to do it are going to use that as a reason not to, which is why it's fine we have requirements and it's softy softy. it's no joke. i really do think that the federal government needs to start applying mandates to all the states and we all need to be acting the same way, whether we're in connecticut, new york or california, or arizona. the states have no borders. planes are flying everywhere. to think that one state can be different from the other one is not only foolish, it is dangerous. >> it's about the greater good. it's about everyone else. dr. rodriguez -- >> absolutely. >> -- always a pleasure.
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today, several house democrats were briefed on intelligence that russia offered bounties to the taliban for killing american troops. republican lawmakers did get their briefing yesterday, and all of this is coming amid growing outrage over who knew what and when. the trump administration insist this is intelligence was never verified and, therefore, the president was never personally briefed and we just heard from former vice president joe biden saying, quote, somehow he didn't know or isn't being briefed is a dereliction of duty. national security commentator, head of the national intel committee for a bit. nice to have you on. cnn has confirmed that this intelligence was, in fact, included in a written version of the president's daily brief at some point this spring. what do you make of the fact that the white house is claiming that the president knew nothing about it? >> well, i mean, obviously that's concerning. the intelligence community thought enough of the information to brief our british
allies, who also have troops in afghanistan that are exposed. and so, i don't know. is it lack of curiosity? all of the elements of the national security team should have sprung into action, to look either deeper into the intelligence or try to find some options to push back on the russians, even if we weren't 100% sure which, by the way, never happens in intelligence. but they had some degree of confidence that this was accurate. so, you know, something broke down there. i don't know if it's dysfunction or they were so absorbed with the taliban peace process negotiation or releasing the 2,000 taliban prisoners. can you imagine, brooke, the day they get released they go get a russian weapon and cash to kill an american? >> no. >> i mean, this is really concerning to me. and it should be concerning to the national security team around the president as well. >> to your point a second ago, too, about pushing back on the russians, the president has had
ample opportunity. take a look at the calendar. he, president trump, had anh spoken with vladimir putin multiple times since it was in the -- march 10th, may 7th, june 1st. mike, according to the readouts of any of these calls, the president never brought it up, not once. >> yeah. you know, he could be -- other diplomat attic efforts. the problem is, what are you doing about it? there are other things you can do. you can have classified confrontations with the russians over this information. you could do covert action authorities to take more serious steps against the russian activity, against u.s. troops operating in afghanistan. so, there are other things to do. my concern here is that they spent the last four days not saying we're working on plans, we're working to push back. we did push back. i just didn't know, or somebody
else knew, or gosh, it wasn't all that great of intelligence. this is exactly the kind of intelligence that should be with all of the policymakers, by the way, so that you have an understanding. again, you don't have to say that's for sure and for certain, but you need to know that if you're going to make that calculus of making a decision, say inviting putin to the g7 or releasing 2,000 taliban fighters back out into the battlefield while the russians are participating and paying the taliban to attack u.s. troops. all of those should have been fully discussed with that information. it's clear that just wasn't happening. that's what worries me. >> we do know now that certain members of congress, both on the left and the right, have been briefed on this, and a number of them are calling for much more robust briefing. you know, all about how congress works and this kind of thing. what can congress do? what kind of -- you know, to
throw this into center stage, and what kind of repercussions need to come from this? >> i wouldn't have done it in a partisan way. you have to get everybody who has this responsibility in the room, that has the clearances for this information. so, likely the senate and the house intelligence committees in a bipartisan way. again, this isn't a republican or democrat issue. something broke down in the way that this valuable piece of information was not passed along to policymakers. and, again, it's a reminder, it was important enough to tell our british allies, but not important enough to brief all the policymakers here. >> exactly. >> there's something wrong with that. we have to get into that room, fix it, figure out what went wrong. i'm not saying they should run to the microphones and scream whatever partisan drip they want to do. that's not helpful. they do have the responsibility of working their way through
this. again, i would have been better -- i would have been happier if the president would have said, you know, it didn't really trigger anything for me. okay, i've got that. that's why you have a team of national security people around you. i'm going to get to the bottom of it. i would have felt a lot better about that, other than this, well, i didn't know. he knew. blame somebody else. i mean, all of that worried me more than anything that this wasn't going to be done appropriately, or the right policy options to push back against the russians aren't being developed. >> right, exactly. it's like, okay, now that it's out there, what is the white house's response? what do we do about it? congressman, a pleasure. thank you. >> thanks, brooke. americans didn't make the cut. the european union says travelers from the u.s. are not allowed in. plus the los angeles mayor is warning the coronavirus spread's pace could put hospitals at capacity in a couple of weeks. tv announcer: come on down to our appliance superstore
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unprecedented decision today from the eu. americans will not be able to travel to parts of europe because of surging coronavirus cases in the u.s. a list of 15 countries it considers face for travel to member states has just been released and, guess what, the u.s. did not make the cut. the decision comes as u.s. records -- the u.s. records the highest number of coronavirus deaths and infections in the world. just take a look at this comparison of the curves in the u.s. versus the eu. the state department responded it appreciates the transparency and is looking forward to coordinating with them as they ease restrictions. in california 72% of the population is now on a coronavirus watch list as the state reports its second highest daily total with more than 6,300 cases and l.a. is emerging as a hot spot, with 100,000 total cases confirmed. eric garcetti says the city is
facing a test in what he called an increasingly dangerous time. >> it's time for us to take control of this moment, because i feel that covid-19 is beginning to take control from us but we can do things to take control back from covid-19, and the next few weeks will be critical weeks in defining whether we can do just that. >> a professor of epidemiology at ucla, dr. demoyne, welcome back. l.a. county officials say the area could run out of its existing splief beds for covid patients in the next couple of weeks. so, how concerned are you? >> brooke, i'm very concerned. we are at a very critical moment here in california, and in los angeles county to be sure. we are now seeing the effects of reopening, of memorial day
weekend, of father's day weekend, of all of these events, the protests. all of this has likely contributed to see this big rise in cases, and it's something that is fairly predictable based on what we know about how this virus spreads. we are all here in california now really preparing for the results of these openings. >> i'm curious. you had a birthday recently. happy belated birthday. >> thank you. >> this is something a lot of people would be wondering about themselves, sfliet one thing you said you wanted to do was see yore mom on your birthday who, because of her age, is in a vulnerable population when it comes to covid. how did you prepare -- here is a sweet picture with your mom. how did you prepare to be able to hang with your mom? and if other people watching have family or friends who are vulnerable, who they really want to see, what can they do? >> well, here is the thing. everything has a cost.
so, you have to decide what you're willing to pay. this is true of life in general, right? so here in the time of covid, this is really and truly where we stand. so for me, what was most important was to be able to spend an important birthday with my mom, who is in her late 70s and in a vulnerable -- one of the vulnerable populations. so what i did was i made sure to really quarantine for the two weeks beforehand. i'm careful in general, but i made sure to be very careful so i could spend the time with my mom without the concern of spreading virus to her. you know, the thing we know about this virus is that even if you think you're well, you could be asymptomatically infected and if you are asymptomatically infected or presymptomatic, before you start showing symptoms, which is the time right before you start showing symptoms is when you are most contagious, then you can unwittingly spread it to other
people. this is probably why we're seeing the spikes everywhere, and what i wanted to avoid to be able to see my mom. i use this as a perfect example. we have people who are near and dear to us, that we want to spend time with. we need to be careful, and you need to do your best to prevent spread to people who are vulnerable. so i quarantined for two weeks. this is something that i think should give people hope. there are things you can do to limit your potential for getting the virus and for spreading the virus. >> i appreciate you explaining that. what are we, like four or five months into this thing? and we want to see our moms and our dads and other folks in our family, and friends. so, it's possible but you have to self quarantine two weeks and be so safe. anne rimoin, thank you so much. appreciate it. primaries are being held in three states today. in oklahoma there's a measure on the ballot to force the state to expand medicare -- excuse me, medicaid. here is a look at what to watch
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once the epicenter of coronavirus, new york has managed to flatten the curve. but the battle was emotionally and brutal for those on the front lines. and in new york they know about that. they are the focus of the new netflix documentary series and a bonus episode reveals the heart-wrenching struggles during the height of the pandemic. >> many of us have go through very personal and emotional changes. all of us have family. all of us have a loved one. i've had to send my son and my husband to live with my parents. because i can't risk exposing them if i were to get exposed and they get exposed. that is been a lot to deal with. i haven't seen them in two weeks
and i probably won't see them for another month. it's completely life-changing. i'm sure this whole experience will change our lives forever. >> and that dr. martha macre is from new york lenox hill and the series is called lenox hill. and doctor, thank you, thank you, thank you for everything that you have done, especially in the last couple of months and there you were and still are pregnant doing it. the series followed your time in the e.r. and there wasn't supposed to be a ninth episode but this pandemic hit and took everyone by surprise and put you through a brutal emotional time. what were some of the hardest parts early on? >> early on, i think some of the hardest were we knew very little about the virus and i still think we're learning.
and really other hard thing was that the situation was changing on a daily, even weekly basis. so we had to roll through the punches, roll through the changes. and that was what was really the scariest thing early on, was the uncertainty of managing this virus. >> and seeing colleagues get sick, right? having them be on the other side of the curtain. i can't imagine what that was like for you. and in the clip you pensionment you had to send off your son to your parents while you were in the thick of it. how hard was that for you and have you been able to see them since? >> so, initially it was a very drastic measure. it was extremely hard. something i never expected to do, especially while pregnant with a young child. so it was extremely hard.
it produced a lot of fear, anxiety. and since then we have all been reunited again. but that was probably one of the hardest things i had to do during this whole entire time. >> what are we like a couple of months later, just how are you doing now? >> doing better. even though i felt at first like this was a drastic measure, i'm going to be honest, i thought i wouldn't be able to do it. it definitely helped me feel safer and helped me focus on work because at work things got really intense and we wanted to focus on patient care and how to protect ourselves, how to manage this virus. so in the end it turned out to be a very positive thing because it helped me feel more in control and more prepared for the situation at hand. >> as someone who has seen some of the worst of this, right, through the ugliest parts of
this pandemic in new york city, as someone who has had to physically remove yourself from the family because of it, for the people right now who are not social distancing, not choosing to wear masks, believe that this is basically over, what would you like to say to them? >> definitely not over. i think this virus is around to stay. i'm no expert in the field of virology or epidemiology but i think it is here to stay. i think being conservative now about protecting yourself and protecting others is going to better prepare you because i do think there is another surge coming. we're seeing it evolve right now. and it's necessary. it's necessary to protect yourself but at the same time there are so many vulnerable populations out there and i think the docuseries shows those vulnerable populations right
there in new york city. people not just old, but young as well, who are affected in underserved community that are going to, essentially, suffer the effects of people not protecting themselves. and secondly, i think it is as simple as wearing a mask. i don't think it's that difficult to wear a mask and wash your hands and be conscience of our social distancing. >> say it again, wear a mask. doctor martha macre, thank you so much. and out there banging the pots and pans at 7:00, so grateful for you and the doctors and the nurses and just the staff and everyone. thank you very much. again the docuseries is called lenox hill and this is the bonus ninth episode on coronavirus and it is compelling throughout. so thank you very much and eight days away from having the baby so good luck. good luck. congratulations.
>> thank you. and before i say good-bye to you, just a quick programming note. with many traditional fourth of july events canceled across country, cnn is hosting a star-studded fourth in america special. so of course do not miss done lemon and dana bash hosting that. i'm brooke baldwin, thanks for being with me. the coverage continues now on "the lead" with jake tapper. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. welcome to "the lead," i'm jake tapper. and we begin with our health lead and the latest on the failed response by the trump administration and many governors to protect the american people from the coronavirus. today a grim new forecast from the nation's top doctors. doctor anthony fauci warning the united states could hit 1,000 new coronavirus cases every day if things do not turn around noting the u.s. is already at