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fauci says the u.s. is clearly not in control of the coronavirus pandemic. so the only question anyone should be asking is, how do we get there? how do we get control? what's the plan? the u.s. is hovering near an all-time high in coronavirus cases. more than 44,000 new cases just yesterday. and dr. fauci says it could get worse. >> i would not be surprised if we go up to 100,000 a day if this does not turn around. >> so what's the plan? this morning, infections are up in 37 states. all the states you see there in red, the states if deep red, up more than 50%. and last hour, dr. peter hotez, a top infectious disease expert told us there's not a dark enough color on this map to articulate what is about to happen in the united states. you can look at what happened in just the last month. all the states there in deep red have seen jumps of more than 50%
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since just june 1st. so what's the plan? merely asking that question has apparently so upset the president that he just attacked us on twitter. but seriously, what is the plan? other than to protect the legacy of robert e. lee? >> it appears that may be the plan, which is clearly not working for the coronavirus. as this situation grows increasingly dire, though, more republicans and even members of the conservative media are now encouraging all americans to wear masks. in fact, one senator directly calling on the president to do so, although mr. trump continues to ignore those calls and he's ignoring the science. he's heading to south dakota on friday for the independence day fireworks at mt. rushmore, where social distancing will not be enforced, as the governor, and masks, though they will be provided, will not be required. cnn's randi kaye is live in palm beach county, florida, with our top story. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, erica. we saw more than 6,000 new cases here in the state of florida
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yesterday and you heard dr. anthony fauci saying that he predicts we could see 100,000 cases a day nationwide in this virus is not under control. we're already seeing 40,000 cases a day, he says. he also says that no part of the country is safe, but still, that has not stopped florida's governor ron desantis from saying that he will not shut the state of florida down once again. in fact, he's been very critical of the media for comparing florida to new york. listen to what he said back in may. >> you've got a lot of people in your profession who wax poetically for weeks and weeks about how florida was going to be just like new york. wait two weeks, florida is going to be next. just like italy. wait two weeks. well, hell, we're eight weeks away from that and it hasn't happened. >> reporter: so i caught up with the governor yesterday at a press conference. i wanted to ask him about those comments back in may. i wanted to ask him if he thought he was wrong for criticizing the media. and here's our exchange.
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>> you had criticized the media a while back, saying we had a partisan narrative for saying that florida was going to be just like new york, but don't these spiking numbers prove that you were wrong in saying that? so what went wrong in florida and what did you do wrong? >> we're not even close to that. so we went through march, april, people were predicting we would have 400,000 people hospitalized. never came. we had, you know, very stable numbers. all through may and early june, were our best testing numbers. very low test results in terms of percent positive. obviously, you've seen a higher percentage test positive now. but just understand, some of those states were testing at 60, 70%. we've been now 10 to 15. we want to get that back down in the single digits. we're very well positioned to be able to handle what comes down the pike. but to compare us, what we're doing with that, totally apples and oranges. >> if i could just follow up, just very quickly.
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>> reporter: so i tried to follow up there, as you heard, and one of the handlers for the governor quickly shut me down and said we're moving on, and called on another reporter. and in fact, it was the handler who called on the reporter, as you saw, not actually the governor himself. but i wanted to make a few points to the governor, because he was saying there, we're seeing a positivity rate in the state of florida of 10 to 15%. and that is just not true. in fact, in miami-dade county, they're seeing just yesterday a positivity rate of 22%. they also saw in the last seven days in that county, nearly 50,000 new cases. and he also said, the governor yesterday was talking about the hospitals. he said the hospitals have plenty of capacity. again, john, that is just not true. we know that many miami, the miami mayor told cnn that some of his hospitals are at or close to capacity. >> randi kaye in florida, randi, thank you for asking the questions. glad the governor has protection from you. appreciate you being there for
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us. joining us now, cnn chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta and andy slavitt, the former acting administrator at the center for medicare and medicaid services under president obama. andy, i want to put up on the screen so people can see what happened in june. it's now july 1st. the states in deep red saw a more than 50% increase in the number of new coronavirus cases. that's well over half the country. i mean, it's just a huge, huge sea of deep red right there. so that's where we are. really, the question now needs to be, where are we going? how do we stop this? what's the plan? >> yeah, february and march were sort of lost time, june a sort of explosive time with regard to this. i think the plan, interestingly, john, had been laid out. there were these criteria by which states could reopen and there were specific things within those criteria to do, if,
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you know, states started to go backwards in terms of, you know, closing things down, aggressive testing, contact tracing, all those sorts of things. there's two issues at this point. at the time those criteria were released, the country was in a different place. and what i mean by that is that it's very hard to do significant contact tracing if, in fact, we start going up to 100,000 people becoming newly infected every day. it's just a very laborious task. what i would say at this point in addition to the obvious, which is, you know, obviously, widespread mask use, you know, making sure we have really saturating the country with testing, something that dr. fauci has talked about, i think, has been a real source of frustration, maybe even a schism between him and the cdc, i think there needs to be, you know, the cdc, as i said yesterday, really at the helm of this, every day. like we saw with rich besser during h1n1. every day, perhaps at the state level there needs to be
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coronavirus task force coordinators. and we need to basically have plans in each state supplanted by and reinforced by significant testing and contact tracing. it's the basic public health stuff that's been talked about from the beginning. but we never did it. it's like a patient who has cancer stage i, here's the treatment, now it's metastatic, they didn't do the treatment and they're saying, what's the plan here? the plan was this back at stage i and it's got to be more aggressive now that the cancer has start to spread. >> there's also the concern, andy, as we look at this, as states are trying to pull back and trying to put more restrictions in place over whether people will actually follow them after they've had a little taste of this freedom. is it your sense, though, that the american people are recognizing that this is here to stay and it will not go away, unless they are part of the solution. >> well, look, i think that
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people have their own reality that they've experienced. and up until recently, if you didn't live in the northeast, maybe you didn't know anybody that was affected by coronavirus. maybe you didn't see the horrible images from new york that were on tv or maybe you just forgot about them and assumed it was gone. i think that's starting to change. i think it is progress that we now have republican lawmakers calling for people to wear masks. this is not a partisan issue. florida is not the only one having trouble. so is texas. so is southern california. this is how the virus works. it is not targeting republicans or democrats. so with all due respect to governor desantis, he just doesn't know. he really doesn't know how much trouble they're in. and in part, they're not publishing their hospital data. so the public doesn't need assurances. i think we would do a lot better and the public would do a lot better if we had a plan and if lawmakers leveled with us. i think what you saw from dr.
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fauci when he talked about 100,000 people was really probably directed at an audience of one, largely. because the only way we will have a plan that's coherent is if donald trump decides that we will have a plan and finally takes this seriously. and i think he is begging and pleading, at least that's how i hear it for trump to take it seriously, start wearing a mask, and implement a national strategy. >> and he's not the only one begging and pleading now. if you listen carefully to mitch mcconnell, if you listen to some governors around the country, if you listen to sean hannity in some cases, they seem to be pleading with the president to step in and say something and do something on this. sanjay, let's talk about the science. science can help here. there is a new study on masks and exactly what kind of mask can help you the most? >> yeah, i mean, first, this idea of just how much masks can be of benefit to the people around someone who's wearing a mask. you get this video and sort of
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see what happens when someone is expelling virus into the air. if you look at this video, you'll get a good idea if someone's talking, coughing, sneezing, you'll see these virus droplets sort of reenacted here. by the way, i always wonder, what would it have been like if we could have actually seen this virus? it's an unseen enemy. if we could see it, it would probably be a lot different, right? there's the mask. it's not perfect, but it makes a big difference in terms of what -- how much virus is actually getting out there. and as you mentioned, there are different types of cloths, different types of materials. we are talking about these closet masks generally. but if you look at going from wearing nothing at all to wearing sort of a two-layered cloth mask that is stitched together, you get a significant difference in terms of how far the cough will travel. 8 feet with nothing, all the way down to 2.5 inches if you get one of those stitched masks. so that's why you do it. that's part of the way you break
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the cycle of transmission. and what we're seeing, even if you look at that sort of science and apply it to large populations of people, look at places like south korea, where in addition to aggressive testing, which i don't think we should take our eye off the ball on that, in addition to that, these masks went a long way. they have fewer than 300 people who have died in south korea. and the idea that you can wear masks and protect people around you and offer some protection to yourself is very true. the science is clear on this now. >> the science is clear. and as we've been pointing out this morning, hearing it from more people will hopefully have an impact. when we look at this moving forward, there's the mask issue and also social distancing. we've been talking so much about bars after they were closed down again in texas and measures taken in florida as well. dr. fauci was very clear on bars, saying they're a really bad idea. how much of an impact do you think that could make? the closing down of bars? and what else perhaps needs to
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follow? >> if you look at the graphs when different actions were taken around the country back in march and april, it was actually when the bars and restaurants were closed in california -- in california the first time around and in new york that you started to see the resulting reduction in the r naugt. bars are really bad places, they're close, they have to speak loudly, and they're drinking, their guard is down, they don't have a mask. we need to have a conversation about what we need to do in this country for bar and restaurant owners. it's very clear to me and many that indoor dining and bars are not a safe activity. and we all know people are -- our local establishments that that's very going to be very, very hard on. and we need to have that national conversation, because
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the alternative is that we sort of ignore the reality and countries around the world, i don't think, understand why we aren't acknowledging the reality and dealing with this. >> sanjay, very quickly, the only conversation that i seem to be having with friends and cohorts is about schools. everyone wants to know, what is going to happen with schools. there does seem to be an appetite or a sense that schools are going to open until they can't. what do you see? >> i think that's right. schools -- it's going to depend on the community. pay attention to that. it's important to see how it's happening in your local community. but if you start to look at the data, the testing data, the contact tracing data from around the world, a couple of things have remained clear. young kids in particular are less likely to contract the virus. they are less likely to spread the virus, as well. an important point. they can, but they do seem less likely to spread it. and they did this by contact
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tracing data, trying to follow large clusters of kids, following kids and their household contacts. they can spread it, but less likely than adults. and as we know, i think, has become clear as well, is that they are far less likely to get very sick from this virus. less likely to get it,less likely to spread it, very less likely to get sick from it. but you have to superimpose that with what's happening with the virus, how much is spreading in your community. and i think critical, and i've talked to lots of people who are making these decisions about schools right now, you have to understand what your triggers are going to be. you can't approach this saying, hey, we'll see how things go. i think kids and parents and everybody that's part of a school community has got to know, is it a certain number of people who become infected? is it when you see the numbers go up a certain amount? what's it going to be so that people have clarity on that? >> dr. gupta, andy slavitt, thank you very much for being with us this morning. sanjay, we'll see you again in a little bit. the leaders of congress will
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so the top leaders in congress known as the gang of eight will be briefed in just hours on the intelligence that russia was paying bounties to kill u.s. service members in afghanistan. cnn has learned that the white house was first warned about it last year. joining us now is democratic congresswoman mikie sherrill, she's on the armed services committee and attended a classified briefing on this matter yesterday. congresswoman, thank you so much for being with us. so you did get to listen to white house officials in this classified briefing. what questions do you still have about this? >> good morning, john. yes, yesterday i was in the situation room to get a briefing on reports that russia had paid
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bounties for american service men and women. as you mentioned, i sit on the house armed services committee. i'm a navy veteran and also former russian policy officer. so i had real concerns about the reporting we heard. and i was happy to be there yesterday to hear from the chief of staff and to hear about some of what went on, but i was also really concerned about who wasn't in the room. we didn't hear directly from the intelligence community, from the cia or from the nsa, which when you're discussing reports, whether or not you can verify those reports, i really think we need to hear directly from the people providing the intelligence. >> so one of the things that has been reported, and i know you can't tell me what exactly was said in that briefing, but one of the things that has been reported is that there is conflicting intelligence, which draws questions about whether the russians really were offering bounties. to what extent did you find that other intelligence convincing?
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>> well, like i said, i was happy to be there to discuss the intelligence. i can't talk about the intelligence reports. but what i can say is that, you know, i am not expectedi inexpe in new jersey to understand exactly what's going on with russia in afghanistan or what's going on with our relationship with russia in syria. it's been tough in new jersey. we've had one of the worst coronavirus outbreaks just when we get things under control, we see across the country cases rising. we have some of the longest food lines i've seen at our food distribution centers. we have people who are in fear of losing their jobs or they are small businesses going under. so i'm not anticipating that the people of new jersey will be aware of every report that comes out. that is my job. that is something i do on the armed services committee. hear the reports, read the reports, gather the intel, and that is what i anticipate the president of the united states
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will do. and something that we ask for yesterday at the briefing was that the president come out and reassure the nation that he has our back. reassure the nation that he's going to get to the bottom of this. and if these reports are verified, that russia will face repercussions. >> he hasn't. and our reporting is that he was first told about it a year ago in 2019. it was in a presidential daily brief. now, the only response that we've had from the white house is that he was never verbally told about this. does that come close to satisfying your questions about why he hasn't come out and said something? >> well, whether or not he was verbally told about this, he knows it now. and he's not said anything. and i have to tell you, i've served overseas. i know families who have service members overseas, as we speak. and though service men and women need to know that leadership is looking out for them.
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that we're doing all we can to keep them safe and make sure that families here at home know that we have their backs. and the president has not provided that. it's -- you know, john, it's really easy to go to west point and say you support the troops. we need to hear from the president right now that if there are russian bounties out on our troops overseas, that he's going to support our troops. >> you mentioned, of course, that you are a veteran. the president overnight threatened to veto the latest defense authorization act. why? because it might contain an amendment to change the name of military bases that are named after confederate generals like robert e. lee and ft. bragg. and not only that, but the process of that, he used a racist epithet to describe elizabeth warren. i want to hear your reaction to this? >> i don't think the president understands or supports our
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troops when he does things like this. >> i've talked to many of the people i've served with, many people who are still serving, many people who really feel that these confederate naming conventions are not appropriate, that they don't represent their values and beliefs. and so for the president to look at the national defense authorization act, which we review as modernizing our military, making sure that we have the funds we need to promote our american values and keep people at home safe and that's what he's focused on and that's why he's threatening to veto the national defense authorization act, i really have -- you know, i don't understand that. >> congresswoman, how is your husband doing? i know he had a bout with coronavirus. it was the beginning of april. how's the recovery going? >> he's doing well. he's doing well. he's been fine for over a month now, back at work. but thanks so much for asking. you know, like you said, you know, he had coronavirus, so many people in new jersey have
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had it. i just want to put out a plea to everyone, wear your masks, wash your hands, socially distance. you know, in new jersey, we finally got our case load down from a high in mid-april. i'm really concerned that we're going to see the numbers tick up as we see them go up across the country. we're all in this together. we vaul to attack this disease together. >> congresswoman mikie sherrill of new jersey, thank you, appreciate your time. >> you hear the congresswoman making a plea to wear a mask, the cdc director did the same thing. asking young people to wear a mask and socially distance to stop the spread of coronavirus. a 23-year-old who has the virus shares her own cautionary tale, next. [woman] what is that? [man] uh, mine. why? it's just that it's... lavender, yes it is. old spice, it's for men. but i like the smell of it. [music playing]
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it is critical that we all take the personal responsibility to slow the transmission of covid-19 and embrace the universal use of face coverings. specifically, i'm addressing the younger members of our society, the millennials and the generation zs. i ask those that are listening
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to spread the word. >> the cdc director, you heard dr. robert redfield calling on young people to do their part to stop the spread of coronavirus. yoing joining me now, 23-year-old payton chester who has just recovered from coronavirus. payton, we're glad to know that you're doing better this morning. but you did what you're supposed to do, as i understand it. you really stayed home in the beginning. and when restrictions were lifted in texas, you did start to go out. most of the time, you were wearing a mask. so what happened? >> hi, erica. good morning. right, as soon as restriction started opening, we saw a lot of rush to restaurants, stores that had been closed, different types of things like that. i wasn't going out. i wasn't going to crowded restaurants, i wasn't going to crowded places in general, social settings. so really, when i started going back just a little bit, going back to the grocery store instead of my roommate shopping or going back to the gym is
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right when i picked up coronavirus. >> and so what do you think changed for you? as you said, you started going out a little bit, but when you started going out, how did you feel about it? especially in terms of the messages that you were getting both local and at the state level in texas? >> when i would go out, i would see about 75% of the population in masks, which is great, but it was really frustrating having to kind of decipher and shake through messages that i was getting from local, federal, state authorities on what is the right thing to do? what is okay to do. because for me, it was hard to decide what is appropriate if some states are completely locked down and my state is almost operating at full capacity, it was hard to know exactly where the line stood, just because there was so much conflicting information that i was receiving. >> do you think texas opened too soon? >> yes. >> and what specifically do you think opened too soon?
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>> a lot of the service industries, water parks, amusement parks being able to operate. the people that have to work in those places, the staff that has to keep those places running to allow limited occupancy, it really hurts them, because a lot of people that work in the service industry are coming down the coronavirus really quickly. >> so talk to me about your bout with coronavirus. first of all, what were your symptoms and how do you think you contracted it? >> so i don't know exactly how i contracted it. i really -- right when i became sick, that was one of the first things that i said was, how could i have possibly have gotten this? i was so anxious about getting it, since this all started in march, february. and so i was really nervous from the beginning and so when i actually picked it up and i wasn't able to. it it, i finally had to really let that go, because it didn't change the fact that i had it or not. and it didn't help my symptoms
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any to worry about exactly where i got it. so the symptoms that i first had were completely different than the symptoms that i had the last few days of being sick. i was sick for about eight days total. in the very beginning, i had horrible skin sensitivity, headache, cough, sore throat, and then right around day four, which is right in the middle of symptoms for me, is when i lost my sense of smell and taste, which was really strange, because i wasn't expecting that at that point, because most people that lose their sense of smell and taste, they lose it right in the beginning. and so, until the middle, and into more of the end, it was definitely a strange experience for me, for sure. >> what's fascinating, as i understand it, you never had a fever. and that is one of the things, as we all go back to work, we're supposed to check our temperatures. >> right. so not having a fever, the highest temperature i ever got was 99.6, 99.7, and i wouldn't even be sent home from high school for that, so i didn't really count it as a fever.
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so i -- when i didn't know exactly how to tell whether i was stale contagious or not a sign of when i recovered. >> initially, this is a virus, as you point out, your experience is different than other people's. we're learning so much as we go. and the scientists are learning on the fly in many ways. but in the beginning, the concerns initially were older people, people with pre-existing conditions, not as much young people. we are seeing those infection rates rise now, as we heard from dr. redfield and others, what is your message? both on a whole and also to people your age. you're 23 years old. at 23, i wanted to go out. you know, at 43, i would like to go out. do you think the right message is getting through? >> i think at this point it's starting to get through. the governor here in texas has started to re-close restaurants and bars and even clubs, those
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are starting to close back down. and i think taking a step back has made a lot of other people realize how serious it really is. and so my message to everyone in general is just do your part and take care of everyone in the community, because we kind of owe that to one another to do the small things that could have a really big impact like wearing masks if you are feeling even a little bit under the weather, that's kind of how it starts and to stay home and self-isolate until you can get a test and get your results back. that's really my message to everyone in general, including young people that it does affect everyone. i was very sick for eight days. >> and i'm sure it's nothing you want to go through again. payton, really appreciate you joining us this morning. we're glad you are feeling better. >> thank you so much, erica. >> john? >> we want to remember some of the more than 127,000 americans lost to coronavirus. 42-year-old james kornackia had served as a police officer on the campus of georgia tech nfor
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nearly 20 years. his wife says his larger than life personality lit up a room. for fun, he cooked, camped, and served as a cub scout master for his church. he was training to becoming a police investigator and was posthumously promoted by his department. he leaves behind three sons. lisa was an energetic whirlwind in the pennsylvania community. she worked for the school district, volunteered as a hospital prison chaplain, and served meals to the homeless. one community leader told "the patriot-news," quote, you'll never be able to replace lisa b berhannan. never. we'll be right back. 300 miles an hour,
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overnight, president trump threatened to veto a defense
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spending bill if that bill contains a provision that would strip the names of confederate generals from u.s. military bases. joining us now, cnn political analyst, maggie haberman. she is a white house correspondent at "the new york times." maggie, we just had the tweet up there and the president seems to be saying it's not just racist enough to protect the legacy of robert e. lee, because in that tweet, he hurled one of his favorite racist epithets at elizabeth warren. now, this interests me for two reasons. number one, this is what the president is choosing to focus on, lean into, a few months before the election. that's number one. but number two, what he's not focusing on, because overnight, yesterday, this morning, we're hearing nothing about the explosive growth of coronavirus across the country. >> i think that's right. look, john, it's very obvious the president has been trying to basically create his own news program related to crime and related to statues. and he has been focusing his twitter feed on that not
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exclusively, but very aggressively. it is not the subject that most americans are talking about right now. it is not part of the national conversation that most americans are having right now. most americans are having a conversation that is either about racism and systemic racism and policing or having a conversation about the coronavirus, which as you noted, is spreading, and it's stopped a bunch of states from opening or partial reopening plans, and they've had to move backwards. it's not going away just because he doesn't talk about it and i think he has not come to terms with that yet. >> one would have to say he has not come to terms with it definitely based on what he's saying. what's also fascinating, maggie, we're starting to hear this message shift from republicans, and not just from republicans, but from conservative media hosts who i would say are speaking directly to the president as they are now trying to get everyone to embrace wearing a mask. and i want to play a little bit of that. >> i think they work. and i said, especially if i wear a mask and it opens up baseball,
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concerts, nfl football, i would rather wear the mask and go to the game to protect grandma, grandpa, mom and dad. >> we must have no stigma, none, about wearing masks. >> wearing the mask is the best opportunity for us to keep this economy open. >> maga should now stand for masks are great again. >> not sure the chances of the president adopting that as a new maga slogan. but in all seriousness, maggie, we know that donald trump does not like to back down. he does not like to say that he was wrong or even show in any way that he was wrong. so even with that very public push that we're seeing, is there a sense within the white house that the president would, in fact, do something as easy and simple as putting on a mask? >> erica, there are a bunch of people who have been urging the president both in plunublic and private to wear a mask. he has other people in his ear telling him he shouldn't do it. i think for the time being, you are unlikely to see a change.
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i think let's see what the new case load brings in the coming weeks and maybe there will be a change. but this is another issue in which the president is not in lockstep with leaders of his own party, other than himself. mitch mcconnell making that statement about the lack of stigma and there shouldn't be one is pretty strong and pretty dramatic. and it is just diametrically opposed to where the president has been and health officials will privately say, this has been part of the challenge in getting the public to change its behavior and wear masks more frequently, is that the president has been so dismissive about it over a fairly long period of time. >> what's the impact of the statements from the likes of mitch mcconnell and sean hannity? how is the president hearing this, do you think? >> i don't think the president likes being contradicted in public, which is essentially what this is. again, the president might get there, but as we all know, the president likes to present strength. he has decided that the masks represent something other than strength. this has been a statement that a lot of health officials have
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talked about trying to get around. i don't expect a change for the time being, but i do expect people to keep urging him to make a change. >> and it will be fascinating to see, too, on friday, in south dakota, for this dependence fireworks display at mt. rushmore, where the governor has said, we will not enforce social distancing. we'll hand out masks, but they're not required. that's sort of the event that has president has been after. he's eager to get back to that rally-style event with lots of people close together. >> it's true. there is a difference, eric karr, at least according to health officials, which obviously i am not. i am saying what they have talked about, but there seems to be a difference between indoor transmission and outdoor transmission. you have a lot of people who are close together outdoors, the virus seems less likely, based on what they know, to spread quite as aggressively as it does for an indoors event. that having been said, when this is about setting an example for people, this is another example of the president trying to sort of will away the coronavirus precautions and it's not clear the president is with him on
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this. in fact, it seems to be the opposite. >> i'm very curious, masks aside, to the extent he's been absent the last week or so on coronavirus, as we have seen this rise in new cases in the south. you know, in florida, texas, arizona, all states that the president needs to win. i'm curious why has he been absent here and is there any intention of getting back into the daily discussion about the pandemic that's killed 127,000 americans? >> john, it's a great question and there's been a big debate within the white house about what exactly the president should be doing. the president's preference has generally been not to talk about this in a big way, although my understanding is that he, according to a number of people, would have been fine with some kind of briefing being held about a month ago by mike pence, the vice president, which eventually came last week. but there were a couple of people around the president,
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namely hope hicks, jared kushner, and mark meadows, who prefer that he not do it, for different reasons. hope hicks and jared kushner are concerned that the president is going to re-do one of those famous performances from the briefing room, whether it was about injecting breach or screaming at reporters. and i think mark meadows wants to be focused solely on the economy. and to your point, you can talk about it all you want, but that doesn't mean people are not dealing with the coronavirus. that's where the country is, it's going to become more noticeable the longer the president goes without discussing it. >> and to your point, too, when you bring up the economy, so much of this is tied to the economy and the reality that americans are facing, that would be another opportunity for the president to lead and to really address what is happening in the current. and he has not done that at this point either. i do want to ask you about this book by his niece, mary trump. so now we have another hold on the book, a judge temporarily blocking this until, i think, july. at this point, july 10th,
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because of this nondisclosure that was signed, not necessarily in regards to the president, but his father and his father's estate. >> it's interesting. there is a july 10th hearing on whether this book can go forward and we'll see what arguments are presented. but there was a filing last night where simon and shuster said in an affidavit that they didn't know that mary trump had a nondisclosure agreement, they only learned of it recently after media reports and the book is already in its printing. i'm not sure how the judge will react to that, that the book is already in its printing. it's a little different with what we saw with the john bolton book, where the white house filed efforts to try to stop it very, very late. it was obviously printed by then. one was already legally in production and the publisher is saying it's began. we'll see how the judge takes it. >> do you have any notion of
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whether there are specific concerns that the president and his family have asbestos the release of this book? >> i think it's just in general, john. the president has tried with varying degrees of success to enforce these nondisclosure agreements that he has put in place for a while. this is particularly sensitive because it relates to the president's father. and as we know, the president is extremely sensitive in almost everything that relates not just to his family or portions of his family, but his father. it's one of the few relationships that he sort of draws a moat around and i think that's mainly the concern here. >> maggie haberman, great to have you on. happy july. welcome to the rest of your summer. thanks for being with us this morning. it is july and that means plenty of people are counting down to back to school, but what does that actually mean? school officials across the country working on plans now to bring kids back to school safely. >> releasing plans at this point, which so many unknowns is what makes it such a difficult process. >> so where does this difficult process stand with just weeks to go?
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the basic fundamental goal would be as you possibly can to get the children back to school and to use the public health efforts as a tool to help get children back to school. >> dr. anthony fauci wants it to happen. but how to make it happen? that's something that every state and every school district
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is individually dealing with. the american academy of pediatrics shows the physical and mental benefits of physical learning outweigh the risks of coronavirus so what are schools doing to minimize the risks? cnn's bianna golodryga joins us. we want them back at school, you and i are both parents but there are things to take into account. >> that's right, erica. i can't tell you how many group chats i'm on with other moms who want their kids back at school, but they're concerned about the safety. you heard from dr. fauci and the others calling for a return to the classroom. the former head of the fda saying that as well and it's really telling that despite the risks most experts say that keeping kids at home can be more detrimental. that some schools are a few weeks away from opening and that doesn't ease the concerns of parents and teachers as well. >> in what could be described as
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the country's most ambitious mobilization effort in recent history, school districts across the country issuing plans for how more than 50 million k-12 students are returning to school, some weeks away. officials in marietta, georgia, and nashville, tennessee, have given families two options for when classes resume in august -- in person or distant learning. the denver public school district announced a return to full in person instruction august 17th. with health screenings provided for all students, teachers and staff prior to arrival. >> we will continue to monitor. so we'll be ready for either scenario -- in person or staying in distance learning. >> reporter: california currently experiencing the spike in cases says its 10,000 schools will have a plan in place for late august and september reopenings. in the northeast, the governors of the states initially hit hardest by covid-19 but now seeing a decline in cases are
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hopeful that that trend will continue and classes can resume in the fall. >> we have every expectation that our kids will return to their schools come september. >> continued isolation poses very real risks to our kids' mental and physical health. >> reporter: even states experiencing the brunt of the virus now like texas and florida are still planning for an august return to the classroom. >> there's not going to be a substitute for that in-person instruction. >> reporter: experts agree. >> we have seen massive public health consequences to the school closures in terms of virtual dropouts. we ask not afford to keep our schools locked down for another year. >> reporter: joseph allen is the author on risk reduction strategies for reopening schools. among them -- distance, hygiene, mask wearing and proper ventilation. >> we know these risk reduction strategies work. even with a full load of kids in the class. kids are at lower risk of getting this virus, lower risk of serious adverse consequences.
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early evidence looks like they're at low risk of transmitting to adults. >> one jurisdiction is under 5%, another jurisdiction is 8 0% or more of parents who say they intend to keep their children home. so you can see how it's so difficult to do a statewide plan when even from community to community people have such varying ideas about how they want school to look. >> i think we'll be in the hybrid situation where all children will be learning virtually some of the time as well. >> reporter: with some states issuing guidelines for reopening while others only recommendations. much of the decision making is left to local officials. >> i'm so glad i'm not in that seat right now. there's the pressure from the community and the staff and for the plans to be released, again, but releasing plans at this point with so many unknowns is what makes it such a difficult process.
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>> and in terms of those guidelines we are seeing differences across the board even between the cdc and the american academy of pediatrics. the cdc recommends that students sit about six feet part and what is what we're told nationwide. the american academy of pediatrics say they can be three feet apart and how are kids going to be able to keep the masks on their faces all day. it's hard enough or the adults to do that, and professor allen mentioned ventilation really key here. he said it's really important to open doors, open windows and if possible have some outdoor classroom settings as well. >> fascinating. my nephews in france don't have to wear masks. they're at school full-time for that very reason. they said it's too tough to make sure that the kids are doing it properly. they don't want the teachers touching them.
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but that's only the elementary school in paris. thank you. great reporting. "new day" continues right now. >> we're not satisfied, we're going in the wrong direction. we are not in total control right now. >> dr. fauci and others advising the public to do what the president won't -- wear a mask. >> embrace the face coverings. spread the word. >> we'll have a large event at july 3rd. we'll be giving out free face masks if they choose to wear one, but we won't be social distancing. >> we must have no stigma about wearing a mask. >> that mask is not to protect me but other people. it's called patriotism. this is "new day" with alisyn camerota and john berman. >> good morning. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. alisyn is off, erica

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