tv CNN Tonight with Don Lemon CNN July 8, 2020 12:00am-1:01am PDT
this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. 11:00 p.m. here on the east coast, and we begin this hour with some breaking news. a staggering figure, staggering. the u.s. seeing a record number of coronavirus cases today. more than 58,000. that is the highest count of new covid-19 cases in a single day since the pandemic broke out. one top medical expert calling the spread of this virus in this country a full-blown public health crisis and disaster. now nearly 3 million confirmed cases in the u.s., more than 131,000 deaths. the forecasting model at the university of washington now predicting more than 208,000
american deaths by november 1st. tonight cases surging in florida, texas, arizona, and california. hospitals in texas and florida flooded with critical covid-19 patients, and president trump ignoring the spreading virus and publicly disagreeing with dr. anthony fauci who is warning the country is knee-deep in this disease. trump actually claiming and i quote, i think we're in a good place. well, let's talk about all of that now. he is the national political reporter for "the new york times." and dr. jonathan rhiner is the director of the cardiac catherization program. we've known about this virus for months and today the country recorded the most new cases in a single day, 58,699. shameful. it feels like we're back at beginning of this pandemic.
>> and it didn't have to be this way. i think if you look at the states that have succeeded in really dropping the number of cases dramatically places like new york, new jersey, massachusetts, they did it through extensive testing. they closed down for a very long time, they didn't open until they were ready to open. in fact, new york is just in the process of slowly opening now. the states that are in trouble now through the south and southwest did not do that. testing was inadequate, and they opened, you know, while cases were even starting to rise. and now they need the will to close. they need the political will to close. they need the political will to get the entire population to wear masks. we can do this. this is not rocket science, don. we can put this pandemic down.
we need to separate politics from science. we need to listen to the public health docs and the physicians who know how to do this. we have to stop listening to people who have a political conflict of interest and listen to the professionals. we can do this. and we can do this in short order if we have the political leadership that allows the professionals to do this. >> well, dr. reiner speaking of that dr. fauci says the country is knee-deep. >> i disagree with him. dr. fauci said don't wear masks and now he says wear them. he said numerous things. don't close off china, don't ban china and i did it anyway. i sort of didn't listen to my experts and i banned china. we would have been in much worse
shape. >> a much great place. how big a lie is it? >> super dangerous. hippocrates once said that science gives us knowledge and opinion gives us ignorance. we're getting knowledge from tony fauci, and we're getting ignorance from the president of the united states. the president has only one goal right now and his goal is to get re-elected. and the only way he can do that in his mind, which i think is wrong, but in his mind is to pretend like nothing is happening here. to open the country widely, to get schools open, to pretend like nothing is happening in this country. whereas the only way to put this pandemic down is to do some harsh things, to do some painful things, to close the economy in certain places. to, you know, test orders of magnitude more than what we're testing now, to get the entire country to wear a mask. to get the country to understand that we're in a new normal.
we can't go back to normal until we have a vaccine, so we need to learn how to live smart. but this president isn't wired for that, so that's not going to happen. so we need to get new leadership to step forward now. maybe the governors starting to see hints of that who can lead us in the correct direction. >> what does it say to you that the president is going after dr. fauci now? >> i mean, from a public health perspective obviously this is not what folks want from the president, but from a kind of political view which is where i come from this is what we've seen from him particularly when we've seen people become more famous in his eyes or take up a portion of the spotlight he thinks should be reserved for him. we've seen this president turn on people even if there are members of his administration, even if there are folks trying to give him public health advice. as much as we want politics to be separate, it is ingrained in what these political decision
makers are going to do. when you talk about these states that have cases on the rise there's really one or two possibilities here particularly for those republican governors. either the white house is going to create space for them by encouraging them to take those big measures to shutdown the economy or these governors are going to have to go over what the administration says and kind of act independently. the third option is for neither of those things to happen and we see the pandemic and the virus go unchecked. those are the political realities. we have not seen the white house kind of take the role of politically leading not only from the kind of nationalist perspective but from the republican party. if the president were to say you know what republican governors go ahead and do this, that will give them space to do this. right now they have to go above and beyond the president and try and create their own political will, which they don't feel like they be the political cover from their base to do so. >> this is what the president said about the death toll in the
u.s. today. watch this. >> we're at 130, and we could be at way over a million right now, and i think it could have been 2.5 or 3 million people. >> although he said 130 he's talking about 130,000 deaths like it's a good thing there, right? and now it's over 131,000. this president he just doesn't get it or he's pretending that he doesn't get it. >> 130,000 dead americans is an unimaginable toll and one that should not be diminished even if the numbers could or maybe were originally projected to be larger. that is because of the drastic measures that many governors and cities took to really slow down that curve in places like new york, like california, other places across it country. and so just because that number has dipped -- just because that projection hasn't been met does not mean this virus is by any means over or somehow
diminished. it is still taking and up ended the very basic fabric of american life, and that's what folks are looking for the president to, number one, recognize and then also respond to. this goes to the core of his re-election. can he rise to that challenge? we have not seen that yet, and the public opinion and response is consistently saying that the white house is failing on this. for swing voters, for moderates, for the people he needs for re-election. >> thank you. i appreciate your time. many americans are waiting days even more than a week to get coronavirus test results. president trump ignoring the problem claiming that if we did less testing we'd have fewer cases. >> the testing numbers are the highest they've ever been. we're almost up to 40 million in testing, and 40 million people which is unheard of. far more than any other country. many times what any other country is, and therefore we have more cases. if we did half the testing we'd have far fewer cases.
>> well, here with the truth about testing is cnn's drew griffon. drew, it's good to see you. i heap you're doing well and being safe down there in atlanta. president trump is still boasting about testing even though there have been major missteps. now we're hearing about these long waits for results. and some places are still complaining about supply shortages. where is the testing tonight, drew? >> it seems we're going back to square one in so many places. if you wanted to get a test in a lot of places in this country you're going to get an appointment for a test in 3 to 7 days. then you're going to get into a line like we saw in miami, for instance. these long lines. they're also lines in texas and in arizona and all these places where people wait hours to get their tests. and then you're going to get a lab if it's not point of care sent off to -- your test result is going to get sent off to a lab, and the labs are telling us
their turn around times are doubling just from the last month. these are big labs, quest and lab corps. so if the end result is if you had a test or you needed a test today you maight not get a resut for ten days. that is just not good. hhs announcing they're going to do some surge testing in three hot spots, florida, louisiana, and texas. 5,000 tests a day trying to relieve the pressure, and the hhs' admiral brett girar, he did acknowledge this problem especially with the labs saying we did anticipate the lab capacity would at some point in time come close to reaching max. i'm not saying it's at a max now but we are certainly pushing the frontiers. don, when the big laberize telling us their times are doubling i think we are pretty much getting back to where we are. we're at a max. >> drew driffen with the truth
about testing. appreciate that. tonight the united states nearing 3 million confirmed cases of coronavirus. cases surging in florida, arizona, texas and california. here's cnn's erika hill. >> reporter: cases surging in the sunshine state. more than 7,300 reported on tuesday. 43 hospitals in florida report their icu beds are now at capacity. nearly three dozen more are close. yet the governor is pushing forward with plans to open schools next month, touting his states efforts to prepare for the long haul. >> the whole point of flattening the curve was to make sure we had enough health care capacity. we're in a way better position today to be able to do that. >> reporter: yet 43 hospitals in florida report their icu beds are at capacity. dozens more are close. restaurants in miami-dade county told to pull back as hospitalizations there surge. and that curve the governor mentioned looking more like a
steep cliff. though, it's not just florida. arizona now has the highest number of cases per capita in the country. >> in arizona the cases are rising so rapidly that we cannot even do contact tracing. the epidemic is out of control in the southern part of the united states. >> reporter: texas just reported more than 10,000 new cases, its highest single day increase. houston's mayor urging the state's republican party to cancel its upcoming convention in his city scheduled for july 16th. >> i believe canceling the in-person convention is the responsible action to take. >> reporter: the texas gop still planning to hold the event, adding a mask requirement for attendees. meantime the texas state fair canceled for the first time since world war ii. the governor now saying he allowed bars to reopen too soon. >> you have to wonder if they should have ever been open at all because bars are onn't made
a way that promotes social distancing. >> reporter: and a new study finds so-called silent spreaders may account for as many of half of all cases. >> even the states that are doing well right now should be on guard because they could be next. >> reporter: erika hill, cnn, new york. >> thank you so much. coronavirus cases soaring from florida to texas to arizona. we're going to go live to the hot spots next. want to brain ? unlike ordinary memory supplements- neuriva has clinically proven ingredients that fuel 5 indicators of brain performance. memory, focus, accuracy, learning, and concentration. try our new gummies for 30 days and see the difference.
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icu beds. cnn's randy kaye has been tracking all of this. she joins us now from palm beach county. randy, this is really serious. the situation in florida is growing more dire by the day. what's going on with these hospitals? >> reporter: yeah, you just have to look at the data, don, and you can see it really spells trouble for the state of florida certainly in miami-dade. that is the hardest hit county in the state. that is in really rough shape. just in the last 24 hours they've had more than 1,600 people hospitalized for covid. if you look at the numbers in the last two weeks their hospitalizations have gone up 90porous. the icu bed demand has gone up 86% and the ventilator usage has gone up 127%. the governor is now saying he's sending a hundred nurses and 47 beds to jackson health. that is the largest health system in miami because they need it so much. but at last check, don, we noted
that about 56 hospitals around the state are now officially run out of icu beds, which means they have no space for anyone who needs an icu bed. and this is really critical especially for miami-dade because they make up 24% of all the cases throughout the state, so they really need those hospital beds, don. >> and randy, there are also some issues with how hospital data is being reported throughout the state. what is governor desantis saying about that? >> reporter: well about a week ago he promised under pressure he would start releasing the number of hospitalizations of covid patients statewide, the statewide numbers. miami-dade releases their own number, but the state is not releasing the full picture so we can't let people know what the full picture is and the true number here in the state of florida. he promised about a week ago. he's been under pressure from reporters to do so, and today they pressured him again at the press conference. and he started to point to maps and charts at the state department website and said all the information is in there.
but, don, trust me we have sifted through that. the information on the state numbers is absolutely not in there. the bottom line is we need inform the public and the state is not giving us the information to do that. >> even with the surge of cases schools are set to reopen this summer? >> reporter: yeah, the engicatienducation commissioner is now saying schools will reopen in five weeks. in august. we're talking about brick and mortar, the classrooms will be ready to go. it doesn't mean they're going to be filled with students, of course. the actual order from the commissioner is he anticipated those students will return to brick and mortar schools but they do leave the door open for parents to keep some of their kids home and use what they call inivative learning. and also if health officials have concerns and they think it's risky they can also say the children don't have to go back to school, but this is happening despite the fact as you mentioned earlier there's more than 7,300 new cases here in the
state of florida in the last 24 hours. >> as i said i know you'll keep pressing for that information, randy. everyone would love to know. thank you so much. i appreciate it. texas today reporting its biggest single day increase in new coronavirus cases. more than 10,000, and in arizona state health officials announcing a record 117 -- excuse me me, 117 coronavirus deaths just a day after the state passed 100,000 cases. in both states concerns are growing over hospitals being overwhelmed. joining me now to discuss an emergency physician at the valleywise medical center in phoenix. and an emergency room physician in houston. i'm so glad to have both of you. i'm going to start with you. arizona health officials warning that only 10% of the state's icu beds remain available. you have been forced to find ways to create new beds for
patients. what's going on? >> don, thanks for having me. it's a very concerning situation. and we're having to make very tough decisions in the er. people love throwing around numbers, and everybody has become an expert these days, but let me put if to you this way. there are decisions i'm making in the er to put it mildly are very tough. it's actually become demoralizing. emergency medicine is a stressful specialty. we signed up for it. i'm used to that. but it's not uncommon to come out of a shift feeling like you're losing hope. i'm driving home and seeing people who are clearly not distancing having their fourth of july celebrations, being in big congregate settings and it feels like what i'm doing is futile. i don't know what more people need to hear. we are the with us state in the country per capita by cases and
the worst in percent of tests that come back positive by far. and we just hit a record number of deaths. i don't know what more people need to be told. the stat titians are saying the same things and public health experts and i'm seeing it in the er. if you don't believe covid is dangerous, even if you believe that just imagine if your mother gets a gallbladder infection. whi she needs a hospital. how goodwill her care be if there aren't hospital beds around? >> i see you. the moment he started speaking you were shaking your head in agreement. what are you thinking? what's going through your head? >> certainly, thank you for having me first of all. i'm an emergency physician in houston, and we're not at the level that arizona is at, but we're getting there and we're
seeing an up tick. i would say about 70%, 80% of my patients that i see nowadays are upper respiratory complaints or covid related complaints. >> you started shaking in agreement when the doctor said he was making very difficult decisions in the emergency room and probably decision that he wouldn't normally make. are you having to do the same thing? >> well, i mean my practice is not going to change. you know, i'm an emergency medicine physician. i see patients, i treat them. just because it's a pandemic i haven't had to make very difficult decisions yet like, you know, my colleagues in new york. but i mean i'm starting to read things about, like, you know, splitting ventilators. and when i have to make difficult decisions there are
protocols but i haven't gotten there yet. >> one more question for you. he's working all day or all night or whatever his hours are in the emergency room and he's going home and seeing people not socially distancing. we've seen images of crowded bars, little social distancing. do you think texas began reopening too soon? >> i think my colleagues and i do believe that we did open -- there are certain activities that are higher risk, obviously. and i think our governor did the most responsible and appropriate thing by closing down the bars so i think that contributed to that large uptick to the houston positive cases. so, yes, i do think in my opinion we did open our economy
too early. >> doctor, what do you see coming down the pike, and do you have the yours to deal with it if it continues the way it is? >> short answer, don, no. i'm trying not to be an alarmist. i'm an emergency physician. we both trained very hard for this. but we can't fill beds overnight and hire staff overnight. as i said our numbers are increasing. it's actually absurd you can hear on the news in country not doing so well, by the way, no matter how you look at it. that we're the worst state in the country and people for some reason think they're immune. you've got professional athletes getting sick. we had the world's greatest fighter some would say, the only person he's scared of is his father. his father died of covid. if people can get sick and die of that, that's the scary part
it's already bad and it's only going to get worse. >> this is sobering conversation. thank you so much. i appreciate both of you joining us and be safe, please. and i hope someone who can help is listening. thank you so much. backlash against a senator who is a co-owner of the wnba's atlanta franchise after she opposed the league's black lives matter initiative. star nba player natasha cloud saying we don't want her. natasha cloud joins me next. crafting lasting fragrances begins in nature. air wick scented oils are infused with natural essential oils for fragrance day after day,up to 60 days air wick scented oils. connect to nature. a lot of folks ask me why their dishwasher doesn't get everything clean. i tell them, it may be your detergent... that's why more dishwasher brands recommend cascade platinum... ...with the soaking, scrubbing and rinsing built right in.
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well, the nba is responding to letter from georgia senator kelly loeffler after she spoke out in opposition to promote the black lives matter message. she wrote in a time when polarizing politics is as divisive as ever sports has the power to be a unifying ant dote, now more than ever we should be united in our goal to remove politics from sports. in a statement the league said they will continue to use our plotfirm they say to vigorously advocate for social justice. senator kelly loeffler has not served as governor of the atlanta dream since october of 2019 and is no longer involved in the day to day business of the team. well, my next guest had a more straightforward response to loeffler. we don't want her is what she said.
joining me now is natasha cloud from the wnba's washington mystics. i don't think you can put it plainer than that. thank you for joining us. so why'd you say that? tell me. >> we don't. we have such a powerful league built-up of so many strong independent, powerful females. and we find pride in ourselves in being inclusive, our league being a safe space for everyone regardless of your religion, your background, your walk of life, your sexual preference, any of those. we're a safe place for a lot of people and in this very moment we are using that platform and that leverage and the momentum behind this movement to continue to use our platforms and voices to be a voice for the voiceless, that also means supporting black lives matter. when our league is made up of
80% of black females this directly effects us. every single day when we take off those uniforms we walk out into the world and we can potentially be george floyd. shoot, we can be in our beds and be breonna taylor. for her to come out and say we're divisive and black lives matters movement is a divisive organization i call her bs on that. >> why do you think some people just don't get it. what doesn't she get? what doesn't loeffler get? >> i don't know. i would love to have a conversation with her as well. you know, not only is our league 80% black but atlanta itself they're starting five is all black females. so to be a partial owner in that and cheer on your players and support them but you don't support them when they take those uniforms off that's a problem. and that's not only loeffler's problem but america's problem. they look at us athletes and
expect us to shoot and score touch downs and not have an opinion about something that directly affects us. >> you have announced you are not going to be playing this season because you want to focus on social reform. that has to be tough. tell me about that decision. >> it was super conflicting. we're a league made up of 144. i'm a mid-major kid. it was really hard to get into the league, even harder to stay in the league. we're coming off a championship seize, so everything was kind of leading to this is going to be a great season, again, and boom, breonna taylor, george floyd, countless others even after george floyd. lynchings going on in our country in 2020. basketball is the last thing on my mind. again, this directly effects me, directly effects my fiance. it will directly affect our children. jive never seen this much momentum, this much leverage behind the movement.
so for me going into a bubble i was taking myself out of having the impact that i want to have. i want to be on the front lines. i want to be in my communities of philadelphia and d.c. and countless other communities around the country. and to be imfactful means to be present and for that i want to sit down and tackle this 100%, two feet in. not one foot in, one foot out. >> i know we're supposed to be social distancing but if you were here i would hug you. girl, you got it. you get what's going on. and i have to -- amen. i applaud you. >> i appreciate it. >> the league is dedicating this season of social justice and will be wearing the warmup shirts with phrase black lives matter and say your name on them. black lives matter will also be on the courts during games, but you say people shouldn't be distracted by the crumbs. explain what you mean by that. >> crumbs to me right now are
t-shirts, are posts on instagram -- >> say it, please. >> taking down statues of racist slave owners that should have never been put up, taking down names of buildings of college campuses that never have been named that, that's crumbs. that's what they're giving to our community. that's what they're giving to us in order to here we go, we gave you what you wanted, this is us. we're giving you what you guys wanted. but, no, i don't want crumbs. i want the whole plate. i want the entire meal. i came for my meal and i'm hungry. that's why i say don't get distracted by the crumbs. i'm so proud of the w, the women who went into the bubble and they're doing big things. they're keeping the attention where it needs to be. it's phenomenal, but we need real change. real change is defunding our
police departments and allocating that money into our marginalized communities, whether it's schools, hospitals, food -- >> you don't worry about that slogan that whole defund the police department, because a lot of people are afraid of that slogan. they think it means getting rid of police altogether. >> absolutely not. and that's -- you're going to have -- it's a spectrum. you're going to have people. there's always a spectrum for whatever reason in our country. you're going to have people that are like get rid of police. you're going to have people people just saying defund mem. the i'm one of those people who believes do we need our police departments? yes. we need them to serve and protect our communities. but i believe they need to be defund asked money needs to be taken out of the departments and allocated because especially in our imaginalized communities they're suffering. >> i'm out of time natasha, but you were great. you should come work for us. >> i appreciate it. >> we'll be right back.
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the governor of massachusetts signing a bill allowing all voters to vote by mail if they want to do it this november. joining a growing list of states expanding mail-in voting. president trump also claims that it's rigpe for fraud. cnn has done extensive reporting on this claim. there's no evidence to support it. with coronavirus surging more states are moving to voting by mail. here's cnn's abbey philip. >> we can safely go to the polls and vote during covid-19. >> reporter: president trump waging war against mail-in voting. but during the coronavirus pandemic for voters like 36-year-old cancer patient maria nelson it's not about politics it's life or death. >> it's truly this fear for your health. and when you're a young mother like i am you just have to look at your children and really say
this isn't a risk that i'm willing to take. >> reporter: former homeland security secretary and republican governor of pennsylvania tom ridge part of a bipartisan effort to push for expanded access to absentee ballots and to fix the growing number of problems emerging in american voting. >> we have four months to try to deal with some of these challenges. and the one thing we do know is that the president of the united states could take the lead to provide safe and secure options for all of his fellow citizens. >> reporter: this as president trump who has voted by mail himself focuses on undermining the credibility of the election. >> this will be in my opinion the most corrupt election in the history of our country. >> reporter: former vice president joe biden claiming trump's attacks on voting are part of a sinister plan. >> it's my greatest concern, my single greatest concern. this president is going to try to steal this election. >> reporter: meantime all 50 states a patchwork of election rules in a sea of looming
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been filed across the country that could determine how voters could cast absentee ballots and vote in person in november. meantime despite trump's claims no evidence of widespread fraud has emerged. >> sometimes i wonder if the president's more concerned about the outcome than he is about fraud. >> reporter: all of this signaling election night uncertainty could quickly stretch on for days or even weeks. >> we shouldn't be so focused on knowing that night. we might, certainly a possibility. but let's start talking about election week. >> reporter: a lot of election experts and political operatives i've talked to liken what we should expect in november to bush v. gore. they say it could take days even weeks to finalize the results of a close election. that's why they're encouraging both trump and biden to not do or say gg that could further undermine public confidence in this election even if it takes people longer than they're
expecting or used to find out those final results. don? >> thank you so much. i appreciate it. a massachusetts detective fired after posting a picture on her instagram of her niece at a black lives matter protest. her colleagues say it was offensive. she says she was in support of her niece and the movement. i'm going to speak with her just ahead. gillette proglide and proglide gel. five blades and a pivoting flexball designed to get virtually every hair on the first stroke, while washing away dirt and oil. so you're ready for the day with a clean shave and a clean face.
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