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nations are vaccinated. and more new evidence shows donald trump and his allies blatantly attempted a coup. now new calls for him to be charged. and alone without defenders, new details on andrew cuomo's plan to stay in power despite facing a potential criminal investigation. ♪ good morning to our viewers here in the united states and all around the world. it is thursday, august 5th. we've let our children down. that is the message from one fda vaccine adviser as millions of families prepare to send their children back to school, including many who were too young to be vaccinated. millions in places where the delta variant is running rampant. look at arkansas, between april and july, cases involving children younger than 18 spiked
517%. hospitalizations up 270%. icu admissions up 275%. arkansas's republican governor who banned mask mandates has seen the data and now changed his mind. >> our cases were at a low point. everything has changed now. and yes, in hindsight i wish that had not become law. >> now, republican governors in florida and texas are stubbor ly sticking to their anti-mask rhetoric even though their states recorded the most in the country. louisiana reporting more new cases than at any other point in the pandemic and a record number of hospitalizations. then in arkansas, a health official tells cnn that only 25 icu beds are available in the state. in the state. in mississippi, that number is 6. nadia romero is joining us from baton rouge, louisiana.
there are not many options for people who need that icu help, nadia. >> absolutely not. not here outside of our lady of our savior. 117 with covid-19 in the hospital right now. as covid-19 continues its stronghold over all of these southern states, here in louisiana, the governor's mask mandate reinstated just yesterday, but he says he will not push for state employees to get the vaccine. he won't mandate that. he also will not support a vaccine passport until the vaccines get fda approval. just next door in arkansas as john mentioned the governor there is trying to roll back his anti-mask mandate ban, but he only could have listened to health experts in his state who pleaded with him not to move forward with that legislation in the first place. and then you have mississippi and you have arkansas, louisiana, all of these southern
states that are seeing critically low numbers of icu beds. but along with those rising cases and hospitalizations, we're also seeing dramatic triple digit percent increases and people in these states getting vaccinated. listen to why one baton rouge mother of two said she had to make sure her children got their first doses and why a vaccine holdout said she couldn't hold off any longer. >> i don't know as a parent how i could live with myself if my son -- if i didn't get him vaccinated, he got it and then something happened to him. i don't know how i could live with myself. >> just hearing that you can get the shot and still get it, still spread it. i'm thinking, what's the point. but then when the delta variant came out, it kind of made -- urged me to want to get it more. >> reporter: another children's hospital closer to new orleans says that they're seeing a
concerning and significant increase in covid cases in children, who are 19 years and younger. brianna? >> wow. nadia, thank you so much for that, live from baton rouge. also developing overnight, cnn has learned that the biden administration is developing a plan to require almost all foreign visitors to be vaccinated before entering the united states. and defense secretary lloyd austin is expected to announce mandatory vaccinations for all active duty troops as soon as this week. >> and the world health organization is calling for a halt on booster shots until at least the end of september to address a shortfall in vaccine supplies in poorer countries. let's talk about this now with the president of access health international, also the author of "covid related post-traumatic stress disorders, what it is and what to do about it." william hazeltin. what do you think about the w.h.o. saying this, a halt to booster shots as you're hearing,
for instance, the white house press secretary saying that this is a false choice. >> i agree with the idea that it's a false choice. a government, our government, has its first responsibility to protect us, our people. it's possible that people who are older, like me, vulnerable, like people with immuno suppressive disorders and cancer survivors, will need a third booster shot. you know, i remember flying -- the days when i flew on planes, they tell you put on your mask first and then help others, your children, for example. we need to help ourselves first so we can help others. i'm not necessarily saying we should have booster shots for everybody, but certainly for the most vulnerable. if that's what is required. so, you have to remember this is the same w.h.o. that said we shouldn't vaccinate our younger people until the rest of the world was vaccinated. it's the same w.h.o. that said
we shouldn't vaccinate more than 20% of your population until the rest of the world was 20% vaccinated. so, i have to say that the responsibility, in my view, of our government is to protect our people first so we can help others. >> yeah. i feel if we have the doses and the booster shots would be helpful, why not. i just sometimes feel as so much focus is going on to third shots for people what will get us through this here in the united states, getting many more their first and second shots. the discussion overwhelms where the focus needs to be. there's been so much discussion about the possibility for still new variants. what's the real danger when we talk about these new variants and their ability to maybe evade vaccines? >> well, that's a real possibility. a group called sage, which is the group that advises the british government a group of independent scientists, came up
with a recent report. it's a pretty disturbing report. they see no end to the possibility that this virus can, number one, evade vaccines, number two, become more lethal and number three, become more transmissible. they view the possibility that people were hoping for, it would become less dangerous over time as possible but in the very distant future. i keep my eye, as you may know, on variants. i have written a book on the topic. i can see at least two variants that currently exist, one is south america and another one that's circulating here in the united states today that had the possibility of being even more dangerous than delta. we are not out of the woods. what i've proposed and i think it's really important is a multi-modal covid control strategy. vaccines, new drugs, behavior modification, masks and being
very, very careful and then helping the rest of the world. i agree with w.h.o., we should help the rest of the world but help ourselves first. >> you talk about a culture of care, right, this is an adjustment people need to make going forward. i want to ask you about something that's getting a lot of attention that i think there are many americans who can connect with and that is that jennifer aniston recently said she has cut people out of her weekly routine who are either not vaccinated or who would not disclose whether they were vaccinated. i think a lot of people are struggling with this, as i said. what do you think about that? >> you know, i think everybody has the right to protect themselves and their family. and if it requires, as it may, as the infection continues to roll on, remember that yesterday there were over 100,000 americans infected. we are going right back up that very steep slope. i think people have the right to ask those questions to protect
themselves and their family. >> new york times yesterday did a story on how do you ask people if they've been vaccinated. i have a good way of doing it, hey, have you been vaccinated? you know, right? and if the answer is no, then i don't really want to spend time with you. professor -- >> another question, too, another question you should ask when people come into your house or workmen come in, are you vaccinated and will you wear your mask, please? i think that's another really important question for personal safety. please wear your mask and hopefully it's an n95 mask because delta has the propensity to go through some of the surgical masks, for example. it's not as good protection as it used to be. you're spewing out 1,000 times more virus than you did before. so you need a tougher mask. >> especially with this practice of just having it over the mouth and not the nose which i still see many offenders of. thank you so much for being with us this morning.
>> you're welcome. thank you. >> you were talking about jennifer aniston, i pegged him more as a phoebe guy. there is disturbing new ed that is making it clear that donald trump tried pulling off a coup. so will he be charged? plus, why andrew cuomo is facing potential criminal charges as we learn what he is now doing behind closed doors. the war of words intensifies between president biden and ron desantis as the florida governor's state suffers. >> announcer: "new day," brought to you by -- to be a thriver with metastatic breast cancer means asking for what we want, and need... and we need more time. so, we want kisqali. living longer is possible and proven with kisqali when taken with a nonsteroidal aromatase inhibitor in premenopausal women with hr+, her2- metastatic breast cancer. kisqali is a pill that's significantly more effective
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spectrum to step down in the wake of a report that found he sexually harassed 11 women. cnn shimon prokupecz is joining us now. he is defiant, no signs that he is going to move right along here, shimon. >> right. so far absolutely no signs that the governor intends to resign. in fact, there's been so much pressure on him, the state head -- the head of the democratic party here in new york state, jacobs, had a conversation with him. told him that he was going to be issuing a statement to order him to say, we need you to resign. so far no word from the governor. he has also lost almost all support here in albany as the institution here does not support him any longer. they're saying that they are going to move forward with an impeachment. they're going to start the process perhaps as early as next week in order to remove the governor. they want him to resign. and so far he has not indicated
he intends to do any of that. the thing also that's going on so far is that according to "the washington post," is that the governor has been gathered with his aides. they have been saying that he intends to fight this. that he wants to fight this. we'll see. we have several days to go before the judiciary committee comes here on monday and meets and then decides the next steps. we don't know what the next steps are going to be at this point. so for now, we wait to hear to see what the governor will do. >> yeah. it's a simple majority in the assembly to move this to impeachment. two thirds of the senator to convict. we had a senator on yesterday that said she thinks they have it. thank you so much live from albany. so this morning, at least four new york district attorneys have requested materials from the state's sexual harassment investigation into governor cuomo. the manhattan d.a. office says it's asking for the evidence in order to, quote, properly investigate these potential sex
crimes. joining me now elie honig, senior legal analyst and former state and federal propertsecuto what crimes could they be looking into? >> these are the four district attorneys opened criminal investigations based on the a.g. report. why these four? this is where the alleged incidents occurred. albany the executive offices, the state capitol. manhattan where the governor had other offices. west chester the governor had a private incident and nassau county, an event. now, let's look at new york state law. the law that seems most applicable here is forcible touching. it's a crime under new york state law to touch intimate parts of another person for the purpose of degrading or abusing such person or for the purpose of gratifying the actor's sexual desire. a couple important things to know about this law. first of all, it's a
misdemeanor. people with no prior offenses do not go to prison. the statute of limitations here is two years which brings us back to august of 2019. most or all of the conduct set forth in the report has happened within those two years. finally, this is so important to keep in mind, talking about a criminal charge, the prosecutor has to show proof beyond a reasonable doubt not just it's likely, not just it's very likely, beyond a reasonable doubt. >> a lot is intuitive. you can't touch people where they shouldn't be touched. bottom line. what incidents in this report then fall under these potential crimes? >> yeah. so there are 11 complainants in the report. three go to potential crimes. one woman told investigators the governor gave her unwanted hugs and kisses. one incident had her in the personal office in albany. reached under her report and
cupped her breast. another, he, quote, grabbed her butt. second of all, trooper one, a state trooper moved on to the governor's protective detail, she testified she was subjected to unwanted kisses by the governor. one incident he allegedly ran his finger down her neck and spine. another incident, he allegedly put his hand on her stomach and to her hip and made her feel violated and finally a woman identified as state employee woman said at an event she posed for a photo with the governor at which he allegedly reached down and fond med, grabbed her butt, according to the report. that's the conduct that prosecutors will be focussed on. >> talk about the evidence in the report and how strong it would need to be to convict. >> again, remember, beyond a reasonable doubt. the independent investigators who worked for the attorney general here, one of them june kim, a former colleague of mine at the federal prosecutors office in manhattan, the investigators concluded that the
women were, quote, credible, both in demeanor and the substance of their allegations. also importantly, the investigators found the allegations were corroborated, meaning backed up by others who witnessed certain events and by contemporaneous documents. they have texts, emails, other things at the time these events happened that they say back up the complain nants. we know they spent time interviewing governor cuomo himself. here is what they concluded about him. the governor's denials lacked persuasiveness, were devoid of detail and were inconsistent with many witness's observations. they found him to be not credible. these d.a.s have to make their own determinations do they believe they have proof beyond a reasonable doubt to support criminal charges. >> what they're watching for right now is what governor cuomo does and the new york state legislature does. they'll move along but want to see what happens there first. elle, thank you very much. >> no problem. a new letter shows just how far former president trump went in trying to change the results
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letter in late december to top georgia officials urging to evaluate supposed election irregularities according to abc news. >> trump told the acting attorney general in late december just say the election was corrupt and just leave the rest to me and the republican congressman. we learned all this in the past week. cnn also reported mark meadows the former president's white house chief of staff sent five emails in late december and early january to the acting attorney general asking him to look into fraud claims in georgia and new mexico. meadows also asked the acting attorney general to investigate an unfounded conspiracy theory known as italy gate claims people in italy used military technology and satellites to remotely switch votes for trump to biden. yes, it is as crazy as it sounds. >> down right nuts. and joining us now is senior fellow at the council on foreign relations also columnist for the
washington post max boot, he said, yes, trump tried to stage a coup by denying it the right is laying the groundwork for another one. max, how big of a concern is this to you and others? >> it's a big concern because we saw that trump's attempt to overturn the 2020 election was only foiled this last time around because a lot of republican office holders would not do what he wanted. from the secretary of state in georgia to the acting attorney general in washington. they upheld the law and refused to overturn the election results. well, what's been happening since the election? the republican party has been purging anybody who doesn't uphold the big lie and doesn't defend the big steal. liz cheney is a high profile example. so, basically the republican party is coalescing around supporting trump in his assault on american democracy. and right now, republicans are
waging a campaign by passing laws to limit voting and by gerrymandering they're trying to take back control of the house next year as well as the senate. if they do that and if you have another close election in 2024, can you imagine republican members of congress certifying biden victories in swing states? i think a lot of them would refuse to do that. they would go along with the big steal. so we're in big trouble right now because it's pretty clear that republicans are not just rewriting the history of what happened on january 6th. the reason they're doing that is because they're laying the groundwork for a repeat in 2024. >> i have to say this jeffrey clark running the civil rights division inside the justice department at the time in late december and early january, this letter that abc news published takes my breath away. it just takes my breath away. he wrote it down the dude wrote it down, max. the department of justice is
investigating various irregular lays in the 2020. the department will update you as we're able on investigatory progress but at this time we identified significant concerns that may have impacted the outcome of the election in multiple states including the state of georgia. this is a letter he wanted sent under doj letterhead under the signature of the acting attorney general at the time. people refused. but this was going on. this was a government official doing this, the president clearly wanted this to have it be done at the time. it's there. it's written down. so what needs to happen? what actions need to take place? does jeffrey clark need to be investigated? does there need to be some kind of legal investigation into the president? >> the first thing that needs to happen is we need to realize, john, how close we came to a more successful coup. this last time around. the fact that there were people like jeff clark who were willing to carry out trump's dirty deeds and were willing to assault the
constitution in order to try to deliver the election results for trump. i mean, imagine if this guy had actually been the kting a attorney general and the justice department had done this. to my mind the most significant part of that letter was where he tells the georgia legislature, you have the power to overturn the election results. you have the power to select electors for the state of georgia which are different from the ones chosen by the voters. that was basically an invitation for the republican-controlled state legislature to send electors to washington to pledge to donald trump rather than to joe biden as selected by the voters. now, imagine this being done in multiple swing states. that could swing the election and return donald trump to the white house. as i said before, we narrowly avoided that this time around but we may not avoid it four years from now. so clearly we need to do whatever we can to prevent people like this from taking power again. i think the big thing that we need to do, yeah, by all means
investigate jeffrey clark, investigate what happened, but i think the big thing we need to do and i say this as somebody who is not a democrat and was a lifelong republican, the big thing we need to do is make sure that republicans don't wind up controlling both chambers of congress in 2024 because if they do, i think all bets are off. >> i mean, look, that is a very easy possibility that they do. that is just the prognosis i think for a mid term year like we're seeing. max, op-ed is great. thank you so much for being with us this morning. >> thanks for having me. florida governor ron desantis refuses to mandate masks in schools as cases surge. and we're going to talk to a school board member in the district where they're defying the governor's rules against masking rules. plus, big come from behind win over night for the u.s. men's olympic basketball team. we are live in tokyo. ♪ centrum multigummies aren't just great tasting... they're power-packed vitamins... that help unleash your energy.
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♪ we can either have a free society or we can have a bio medical security state. and i can tell you florida, we're a free state. people are going to be free to choose to make their own decisions about themselves, about their families, about their kids' education and about putting food on the table. why don't you do your job? why don't you get this border secure? and until you do that, i don't want to hear a blip about covid from you. thank you. >> governor desantis saying to the president, do your job, but some florida schools are begging him to do his and to let them mandate masks. the governor is not a fan of mask mandates. he has banned them in schools. he has threatened to with hold state funding from schools that require masks. but a county is doing it any way, instituting a two-week mask mandate when classes resume next
tuesday. joining us now is the school board member tina certain who is with us. tina, this is in defiance of the governor. he is threatening to with hold funds. tell us why it was worth doing any ways. >> well, i kind of disagree. i don't think it's in defiance of the governor. i don't think there are clearly outlined rules that have been developed yet in the executive order. we chose to listen to our local medical community who came out to our recent meeting on august 3rd and detailed, gave us a lot of detail about the current medical situation in our county. we were told that the cases are spiking in our county, hospitals are full, and the transmission is taking place between children under 18 against -- amongst school age children. we thought it prudent to provide a safe learning and work environment that we proceed
forth with face coverings as a mitigation strategy to control the spread of the coronavirus. >> his administration is threatening to with hold funds from school districts that require masks. is it worth it to you even if funds are with held? >> well, i'm hoping the governor does not go forth and try to hold -- and with hold funds from our local school district. the order says if we don't comply with the rules that are made or policy and currently right now we just have the executive order that talks about a lot of where as people can choose to not wear a mask for whatever reasons, but there has been no formal policy developed yet out of this executive order that tells districts that we cannot have a mask ordnance or mandatory mask amongst our students. so, we started out with a --
we'll start with a two-week mask mandatory mask amongst our students. and if rules are created by the department of health and the department of education, we will then come back as a board and examine the policy that comes down to us and try to comply. we want to make sure we keep our community safe. we have a lot of students that will be on our campuses that are not eligible for the vaccine. and before students have even arrived on campus, we have a good number of employees that turned up positive already and just this week we had the death of two of our employees of our custodial staff. so we're weighing out the financial impact and we're not dismissing that because we cannot operate without state funds. but at the same time, we really need to provide a safe, working and learning environment for our students and our staff. >> and your staff. real quick before i let you go,
tina, there's a vaccine incentive to your district which says to staff, if you're vaccinated and get a breakthrough case, you have ten days off work paid, right? but if you're unvaccinated and you get covid, the staff members actually they're on the hook for paying for their own time off. is that encouraging staff members to get vaccinated? >> that is -- that's the goal of our superintendent. she reached out to the board and asked if we would support that. there's a financial incentive to get the vaccine and then if you have a breakthrough, of course, the leave would be paid by the district. we took this route to encourage folks because as we have been told by the cdc and all the medical advisers is that one way we can stop the coronavirus in its tracks is to be vaccinated and to wear face coverings, social distancing and avoiding large crowds.
that's the position that our district has decided to take. >> tina, look, we'll see what the state says. this story isn't over, but we appreciate you coming on to talk about it this morning. tina certain, thanks. >> thank you. american women leading the way for team usa at the tokyo games. we take a closer look at their success on the world stage. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ summer is a state of mind, you can visit anytime. savor your summer with lincoln. priceline will partner with even more vegas hotels to turn their unsold rooms into amazing deals. delegates, how do you vote? (cheering) ♪ yes, y-y-y-yes, yes... ♪
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♪ jason tatum and the u.s. men's basketball team rally from a double-digit deficit to advance to the gold medal game at the olympics. coy wire in tokyo with more in this morning's bleacher report. the much maligned men's team getting the job done. >> yeah, john. it was a rough start. they did. they lost their opening game here but team usa's bid for a fourth-straight gold medal was alive. it wasn't easy.
australia led by as many as 15 in the first half. the u.s. went on a run to cut that deficit to three at the half and it was once again kevin durant putting the team on his back, sparking a 20-0 run that started just before halftime. and they held the aussies without a bucket for nearly eight minutes at one point. kd finishes with 23. final score is 97-78. they advance last month's loss in exhibition game in vegas to australia. u.s. now plays the winner of slovenia/france in the gold medal game. and it wasn't gold but the u.s. women's soccer team is back on the podium, winning bronze over a win over australia just a bit ago. megan rapinoe scoring two goals in the first half. 39-year-old carli lloyd adding two of her own, passing abby wombach to become the all-time leading scorer in u.s. women's national team olympic history. ten in her career. it's a 4-3 win. the bronze medal the first in women's team history after winning four golds but failing to medal in rio.
this could be the last hooray for soccer legends, carli lloyd, megan rapinoe. it's been an incredible run for some of the best to ever do it. >> they look like they were having fun this morning in the game, which you know, it ma matters. coy wire in tokyo, thank you so much. also developing overnight, the u.s. men failed to advance to the 4 x 100 relay final in track & field. the men faltered from gymnastics to swimming, america's female athletes shines. selena wang is live in tokyo with more. there is a contrast. >> reporter: yeah, absolutely. just an incredible performance from american women at these games and for the third-straight olympics there are more women than men at the tokyo games. they've won more than half of team usa's medals. and they are some of the biggest stars from simone biles to katie
ledecky. women are leading the way for team usa at the tokyo olympics. >> 19-year-old harrison from the united states on her way to the finish line. >> nevin harrison bringing home the first gold medal in the women's 200 canoe sprint earlier today. american women winning 15 gold medals in the 2020 games so far. with swimming star katie ledecky earning two of them this year, including historic victory in the inaugural 1500 meter freestyle race. >> it's an amazing feeling to be bringing home two golds and two silvers here and to compete in my third olympics. it's something i never would have imagined. >> reporter: the women of u.s. swimming standing on the podium for a total of 18 medals including jacoby the 17-year-old alaskan an unexpected champion in the 100 meter breaststroke. and in track and field, sydney mclaughlin, speeding into first
place in the 400 meter hurdles just ahead of teammate daliliah muhammad. >> i want to encourage people to be the best they can be. >> reporter: valley almond winning with discuss with a throw of 68.98 meters. and at 19 years old, athing mu, the second youngest olympic 800 meter champion. women earned 11 event medals in track & field. the first black woman to win olympic wrestling gold. team usa's 3 x 3 basketball team earning the top spot in the inaugural tournament at the games and in surfing, charissa moore riding the waves to become the first olympic surfing champion. >> it means so much. especially coming from hawaii, surfing is our sport. and it means a lot to bring it home not only for hawaii but the united states of america, to surf for something bigger than
myself. >> reporter: women's gymnastics winning six medals in the game including a team silver. suni lee is taking back a full set before she starts college this fall with a gold in the individual all around competition. >> this medal means a lot to me because there was a point in time where i wanted to quit and i just didn't think i would ever get here, including injuries and stuff. so, there are definitely a lot of emotions. >> reporter: simone biles withdrawing from the women's team final and four individual events due to mental health concerns and a bad case of the twi twisties. the star gymnast returning to compete in the balance beam and ultimately walking away with the bronze medal. >> i'm pretty happy. i wasn't expecting to medal. i just came out here and just tried to do a good beam set, zwrous have one more opportunity to compete at the olympics meant the world to me. >> reporter: after she won, she talked about the significance of young girls seeing her take gold. she says it means they get to see someone like themselves up on that podium and it means that
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that. fishing on his family's boat, running his new clam shack and cutting the day's catch in his fish market. >> i have two guys here besides myself. normally i have seven. >> reporter: it's the same in all three locations. how many people's jobs do you think you're actually doing right now? >> i don't even know if i could put a number on it, but for just the sake of saying probably five. >> reporter: the seafood industry like so many others is experiencing a labor shortage. and it's currently high season in green port, long island, where seafood is in demand. how would you say business is going? >> it's insane. >> reporter: u.s. seafood prices are up 2.5% since last year, the fastest pace in years. this should be good news for phillips, but he says customers often leave frustrated and without making a purchase with little staff, people are forced to wait.
you missing out on potential business because of it? >> absolutely. i feel everyday we are. everyday. >> reporter: the u.s. imports up to 85% of the seafood we eat. but with slow downs and international trade, there's more pressure on u.s. operations to make up the loss. in louisiana, it's the tail end of the brown shrimp season. but lousy harvest and fewer workers means less business like louisiana shrimp company. >> we have to use temporary agencies to get people to come in. and it's hard to get them even today. >> reporter: carl turner runs the plant and says many workers are either collecting unemployment or left the industry for good. >> people want to work in different industries, cleaner industries and it's a challenge to attract people to work in the shrimp processing plant. >> reporter: in the gulf coast bayous, faith family shrimp company owns this dock and five
boats. but the family sold two because they couldn't find anyone to run them. >> if i would have known what i know now, five shrimp boats, a big shrimp dock facility, i would have had five sons. >> reporter: it's a grueling, messy monotonous. >> we'll start people out good hourly pay. what's going on? they quit. it's very hard to replace them. >> reporter: this is where phillips says he needs to be. but the lack of workers leaves him to choose between working on land or at sea. how often are you able to get out on the boat these days? >> myself not that much anymore. this is the most important part to all of it. without this, we wouldn't have anything else. >> now, companies often supplement their u.s. work force with foreign labor. but you have to apply a year in
advance for these seasonal worker visas, so you have seafood companies applying last year during the height of the pandemic not thinking that 2021 would be what it is today. this robust economy. so you have now the low u.s. workers and low foreign workers able to supplement the seafood industry during a time when they really need both most, john. >> vanessa yurkevich, such an interesting look to hear how people say how is business? it's insane but too much of a good thing. thank you for that. there's big news about jeopardy has been trying out a number of celebrity guest hosts this year. i'm sure that you have noticed from levar burton to our own sanjay gupta but this morning variety is reporting that this man is in advanced talks to become the next host. so who is this guy? cnn chief media correspondent and anchor of reliable sources brian stelter with us.
who is that guy, brian? >> the answer is, who is mike richards. is an executive producer of jeopardy. and he filled in very early on almost by accident after alex trebek passed away. so, he is now in contention for the job. when i had sources and agents tell me that he was seriously contender for the permanent job, i didn't believe it at first. overnight variety saying there's advanced negotiations for mike richards to take over. you're on the search committee to find the person and then you end up picking yourself. it is technically a little more complicated than that. there's lots of other executives at sony that are involved in this decision, but it is a big surprise to a lot of jeopardy fans to see the producer likely becoming the new host. >> is it really more complicated than that? i don't want to give the impression i'm sour grapes. it's just a fact. but the guy was involved with the search. i mean