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king tonight. you made the job pretty easy. thank you, ladies. thank you, rob. thank you congressman paul. appreciate it very much. larry is back monday. thanks for letting me sit in tonight. now it's time for anderson cooper and "ac 360." back to moscow with a note saying we don't want him anymore. it is causing reprecushions for all adoptions. also, sarah palin stirring up her base saying what is wrong with being a party of no? taking shots at president obama and newt gingrich and to some -- a sad ending in west virginia. the four remaining miners are found dead. we'll have a live report. mourning the dead in kurdistan, the new government says the state could haviers are looted and they count the cost of
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violent protests. an american grandmother triggers an incident when she sends a 7-year-old boy back to moscow. thank you for joining cnn. i'm natalie allen. this is "world report." the worst u.s. coal mining accident in a quarter century just became the deadliest in 40 years. at a news conference in west virginia, officials confirmed what had been feared for several days, that four missing miners have been found dead. a massive explosion on monday killed at least 25 miners. search crews made a fourth attempt to reach an area of the coal mine where the men could have taken refuge. but the governor says they never
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made it. >> none of the shachambers had n deployed and none of our miners suffered. so this journey -- this journey has ended. and now the healing will start. >> funerals for four of the victims were held on friday including a 61-year-old miner who was just five weeks from retirement. >> let's go back now to our reporter live from naoma, west virginia. we were talking moments ago, ines, about the hope that some people still had, certainly the families, that maybe a miracle would take place. but apparently that did not happen.
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>> reporter: the governor of west virginia was speaking about a sliver of hope throughout the entire week, tonight saying we did not receive the miracle that we had prayed for. this week has really been one of setbacks for the rescue workers. every time they tried to go into the mine, they would go in the mine and then they would have to turn around. listen to this. the wait is over. the news tragic. officials had held out hope that four missing west virginia miners might have made their way to a safe haven inside the mine after an explosion monday. >> they got one opportunity. we all have one opportunity, a sliver of hope, a miracle, if you will. if the other chamber had -- has been deployed, then we have chance. >> reporter: but the rescue effort was hampered by dangerous conditions inside the mine. a massive drilling operation helped to ventilate the area of dangerous gases that officials feared could explode. rescuers were forced to turn back a number of time.
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>> it's very emotional for all the rescuers. we want to get in there. but it's also emotional if something would happen to the rescuers. >> reporter: on friday, president obama praised efforts of teams working around the clock at the site. >> also in awe of the courage and selflessness shown by the rescue teams who risked their lives over and over and over this week for the chance to save another. >> reporter: but finally, the sad news. more loved ones lost to a blast that killed 25 others on monday. and governor of west virginia saying tonight that family members are really pulling on all the strength they have. can you imagine these five last days, how xrus yating this has been for them. the governor saying that they've been very patient all along. this is obviously so disappointing for them. and now the healing is starting for them.
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natalie? >> yes, as you were talking, we're seeing live pictures of grieving family member right there on our screen. it's difficult to watch. you touched on the support that they've been getting. can you expand on that a little bit and for the rescuers as well as we heard from the officials there in the news conference that they've had a very difficult week hoping to bring people out alive and now they have to carry by hand these people out of the mine. >> reporter: yeah. so difficult for the rescue workers as well because they've also been so invested in this. and officials saying all week that they've also been emotional about this themselves, obviously. every time they would go into the mine and then would have to turn back around. what they were hoping to find is find the four missing miners alive. but i just want to say this community, we notice that this is such a close knit community here. a lot of people here have a lot
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of faith. the governor was talking about that every time that they would receive a briefing that they would pray together. earlier to night also in fact some local residence asked the governor if he could join them in prayer. this has been a community that has really pulled together. and you notice it also even when you're driving down the street. people on their cars go right on their cars, pray for our miners. you also have signs outside stores, outside gas stations, outside churches asking to pray for the miners. so it's really been a community that's pulled together. the families, they've been at the mine site. and they've received food from residents that will take food over to them. they've even had extra food that the families had sent over to all the media that's been here at the elementary school where we've all gathered together to
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receive the news from here with just a couple miles away from the mine site. it is really a community that everywhere that you look they have pulled together to support the family members. and we've spoken to people who say that this is really a coal mining community. and if you don't work in the mines around here, then you know people who do. natalie? >> all right. well we thank you, ines there for us from west virginia. thanks very much. and once again, just recapping, 29 people now dead in that explosion in west virginia. and now comes the difficult task for the rescuers now part of the recovery team. they have to carry out all the bodies by hand. we'll continue to follow developments as they investigate what caused the explosion. we'll move on to our other story that we're watching closely. kurdistan is --
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obama has a major decision to make and, of course, question is who will fill his seat? also in new orleans, sarah palin gave a speech packed with smiles and sarcasm at the southern republican leadership conference drawing a standing ovation. she blasted the president for rewriting the nuclear defense policy, something reagan talked about and obama responded on "good morning america" and said the last time he checked she was no expert. today palin responded. >> i have no response to that the last i checked sarah palin is not much of an expert on nuclear issues. if the secretary of defense and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff are comfortable with it, i'm probably going to take my advice from them and not from sarah palin. >> now, the president with all the vast nuclear experience that he acquired as a community organize ooizer and as a part-time senator and as a full-time candidate, all that experience, still no accomplishment to date with
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north korea and iran. >> candy crowley was there for the speech. also jeffrey toobin, also author of "the nine: inside the secret world of the supreme court" a great book and we have co-author of "grand new party." candy, did mitt romney and tim pawlenty skip the event because they knew there was no way to compete? >> listen, there is no doubt that she really absorb much of the sun and awe saw that with the reception she got. other, newt gingrich, he is -- gave a speech that was warmly received but it's not that same temperature she can bring a room to. she sparks a lot of enthusiasm and rushed the stage to get her autograph. many she came in and everybody hurried in to get a good seat. no one like palin to kind of move a crowd and, of course, they're having a straw vote tomorrow here and while it won't
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matter, probably a week from now, much less two years from now, it still gives another headline to someone. if you're also running for president maybe you don't want to be compared giving a speech from the same podium. >> it was interesting. last night newt gingrich said the republicans have to be the party of yes. today sarah palin said it's fine with her. they're not only the party of no but the party of hell no. >> i think it's basically a matter of drawing a sharp contrast and a matter of trying to connect with the conservative grass roots and it's shrewd. a lot are talking about this as her debut coming out demonstrating she really is going to be a presidential candidate. it makes sense for her to make us all think she's going to be a presidential candidate. you can imagine her being someone who fires up the base without actually pulling the trigger soy i think we still don't know what her intentions are for 2012. >> something president obama
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said in the announcement. >> while we cannot replace justice stevens' experience or wisdom i will seek someone in the coming weeks with similar qualities and someone who like justice stevens who knows in a democracy powerful interests must not be allowed to drown out the voices of ordinary citizen. >> who do you see as the big replacements? >> i think presidents -- and this is true of democrats and republicans alike -- they really reinvent the wheel. once they get a short list for a first nominee, it tends to continue into the second nominee. the three finalists who didn't get the job last time were elena kagan, the solicitor general of the united states, diane wood, federal appeals courtary merit
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garland on the d.c. circuit court of appeals. all varying degrees of liberals. garlands the most conservative, kagan in the middle. those distippings are hard to draw when they haven't been a part of it all that much. >> you can already hear the gearing up of sort of this -- this sort of shadow group which exists in washington which seems to come to the fore every time this justice story raises its head. there's this whole industry who are for them or against them. >> ever since 1987 and robert bork this is the way politicians express their issues, through the vehicle of supreme court confirmation hearings and, you know, by and large, the president gets his way. when the president's party controls the senate as it does now by a wide margin, 59-41, no nominee has lost since the 1960s. so i think it's unlikely that
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any obama nominee would lose. >> some nominees haven't even made it to the actual nominating process. >> harriet miers didn't make it that far. >> we're hearing rumbles about the possibility of -- even though there is not somebody who has been suggested as the nominee, but rumblings of the possibility of a filibuster. >> from 2000 to now you see more votes going against a nominee and saw it with roberts versus alito and that continues. garland, a lot of liberals thought he would be the person to go in there if you had a conservative justice retire and have him go in. now it seems the politics have gotten so difficult he becomes more positive.
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he was the crucial liberal. he could build coalitions. if obama is going to be strategic, that's his intention he's going to want to find someone to do that. republicans understand that they basically have to put up a fight whoever it is, even if it's someone more congenial like garland or kagan. >> look at where candy is. that's today's republican party. we talk about the base of the party. that's all there is is the base of a party. there are no more moderate republicans and that is a republican party that is going to oppose regardless of which nominee it is. >> so, candy, for all the talk of being the party of yes to newt gingrich's hopes on this they may be again the parrott of they may be the party of no. >> well, listen, i mean just let me give you some numbers here. i think ones we all know. it's going to take 60 votes to get this nominee through the senate. right now democrats have 59
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votes including two independents. there are republicans up on capitol hill who believe that barring some horrible thing, barring, you know, a resume shows a person is not qualified to sit on the supreme court that a president ought to have the nominee he wants, even if it's a president from the other party. they just fundamentally believe in the principle they won't argue with the judicial views of a candidate. they want to know if this person is qualified and if so after talking about the views they'll go ahead and vote for them. you just need one to do that. do i think there will be a lot of noise, i do. why? it's an election year and no place is the idea of the power to put someone on the supreme court as effective a campaigning tool as in the republican party. this is very near to their hearts because of the social issues that jeffrey just talked about so, yes, i think it will be part of the political mix but
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i think if you look at the sheer numbers of it certainly the president is likely to get his nominee. >> john paul stevens was confirmed in 1975, 98-0. we will never ever see a 98-0 confirmation. >> it is the end of an era. obviously the oldest, fought in world war ii. >> had a great opinion where he said our marijuana laws remind me of prohibition when i was a student. imagine someone who remembers prohibition. he comes from another world. >> he was the key liberal justice. he was absolutely essential and the loss of him even if you replace him with someone a lot younger is a big blow. >> thanks for joining us. still ahead, new biography digs deep into the president's past written by the editor of "the new yorker." plus, disturbing new details about the death of a 15-year-old named phoebe prince. that's her. endured what she -- we'll tell you what she told a friend the day before she killed herself. race politics.
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race politics. the three factors played pivotal roles in shaping president obama's life, from the struggles that challenged him to the moments that defined him. his story, his relentless drive are spelled out in "the bridge," the life and rise of barack obama by author david remnick. i'm enjoying the book. i'm halfway through. there's a quote, what the title is based on, and it comes from john lewis, who told you the day before obama's inauguration, he said barack obama is what comes at the end of that bridge in selma. it's interesting, the president has tried very hard not to define himself in terms of race. >> yeah, and he's very well aware.
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as anybody would be, that he doesn't need to emphasize race because when he comes before a camera he's an african-american and has a powerful influence. i discovered from interviewing him at the oval office that he really will talk about race when he's in control and can give a big speech like he did in philadelphia in the midst of the gee mya wright affair. when he gives an answer, it's nothing but trouble -- it ends up throwing off his agenda as it did during the health care debate and it is a pain so he avoids that as much as he can. he's now starting get criticism to his left and in a congressional black caucus he's not paying enough attention to the black agenda. >> you said you interviewed him in the oval office, i have, as well. did you ever figure out why the oval office is hot? >> the opposite of the letterman studio.
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>> yeah, exactly. >> what's really weird is how unbelievably quiet it is in there and obama's interviewing style is so slowed down it's like 30 heartbeats a minute. you hear that grandfather tolling like edgar allan po story. >> so many who meet him who like him as opposed to who meet him who don't like him will say he seems like such a regular guy. he seems so personable but nobody becomes president of the united states by being a regular guy. there are no regular guys who are presidents of the united states. he's a politician. >> from the beginning. he is swathed in the kind of mists of the historic dimensions of his election and that's logical, stands to reason, but this is a guy who started out as a pretty hard-nosed politician on the south side of chowing. he bumped his opponent off the ballot in a petition race. and he got his back side kicked in a congressional race in
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2003 and lost badly to bobby rush and in 2004, got to the senate thanks to to sex scandals -- >> files open. >> two divorce files open and they fell by the wayside and ran up runs against alan keyes. >> it's interesting. there are those who accused him of pandering and bobby rush made fun of him for his walk. >> i was in bobby rush's office. he got up out of his chair, a former black panther leader and started imitating obama's sinuous walk and did this across the office floor and said when i ran against obama he didn't walk like that. so he was making fun of him. he was taking digs at his racial
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authenticity which is nasty stuff. >> i want to play you something gingrich said the other day about president obama. >> the president of the united states, the most radical president in american history has now thrown down the gauntlet to the american people. he has said i run a machine, i own washington and there's nothing you can do about it. >> i mean, to say that he's the most radical president of the united states. >> incredible. it's really incredible and henry louis gates is quoted as saying the most radical thing about barack obama is the fact that he's african-american and president of the united states. he is a center left president and a lot of his policies are straight in the tradition of center left democrat. look at health care itself. look at his judicial appointees, sonya sotomayor and elena kagan, somebody not on the left wing of the democratic party and foreign policy choices are hardly far left either. i mean, this comes out of the propaganda campaign leveled
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against him having to do with bill ayers and jeer myy wright sdmrflt why has his style of speaking changed so much? during the campaign, you know, there were those who supported him felt he had this -- talked about the fierce urgency of now and was such a great speech maker even those who didn't like him thought he was a great communicator. his speeches in office have been -- i mean he reads from a teleprompter. there is a dryness. >> a formality to it. >> well, it stands to reason -- remember, when he's campaigning across the country he's in different venues at different times. sometimes he's in a black church on the south side and the cadence is in association -- sure, like any good orator does. in a vfw it's a different kind of cadence. now behind the resolute desk giving an address to the nation you're different too. >> it's a fascinating book. thanks for being with us. new details about the bullying of 15-year-old phoebe prince taunting the prosecutor says turned to torture.
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explosion. teams are heading towards the chamber where they may have taken shelter. funerals for the 25 miners killed in the explosion began today. the qatari diplomat would caused a scare with a long bathroom visit and an unfortunate comment about his views is going home. the u.s. state department has been assured that mohammed al modadi is leaving the country. as he has diplomatic immunity he won't be charged. 1.5 million people have reserved their chance to see the shroud of turin. goes on tour for six weeks starting tomorrow. some believe jesus was buried in the linen cloth. anderson? >> first, final hours of a young girl's life. prosecutors say she was bullied to death. said the bullying went on for
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months. new details what phoebe prince endured the day she took her life and the name she was called and the final text messages she sent. also, hope for their future turning tents into classrooms. kids in haiti some going back to school. we're going with them. our report from haiti is along next.
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tonight we have new details in the final hours of phoebe prince and they are upsetting. authorities said she was bullied to death. six classmates are accused of driving her to suicide. according to court records several of them, several of these kids never let up the abuse allegedly not even on the last day of her life. we learn three 16-year-old girls we of south hadley high school in massachusetts berated and teased her this past january 14th, the day she killed herself. some of the disturbing details. the harassment had been going on for months and on january 13th. phoebe told a friend "school has been close to intolerable lately." this is phoebe 15 years old. came from hollywood. she was new to the country and new to the school in massachusetts. here's how phoebe's last day unfolded in school on that day. now, the documents says the accused students called her an irish whore while she tried to
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study in the library and began crying on the way home from school. on the walk home that afternoon after one of them threw an energy drink called a monster drink that was inside the vehicle, threw it at her as she was walking home crying. also that same afternoon, the report said phoebe exchanged several text messages with a friend, phoebe told the friend she was upset about the taunts, her despair at the ongoing taunting to which she was subjected. now, phoebe sent her last secretary at 2:48 p.m. two hours later her body was found hanging in a rare stairwell at her home. just two hours before she died. there were no further outgoing texts. what is so sad about this, of course, one of the reasons we keep following this story is that this was not an isolated incident. take a look. these are just some of the faces of kids who have killed themselves this past year. these six were all bullied and committed suicide. carl walker hoover. we told his story, jahir
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herrera. alexis was 17, hope, 13 years old, hunter over here, 15, john carmichael just 13. we had his parents on last week. every single day it's believed 160,000 kids do not go to school because they're afraid they wil be harassed or picked on. we don't take it seriously enough. joining me again is dr. phil mcgraw. in the documents released it says this witness stated on one occasion this prince went to school administrators because she was scared and wanted to go home. the witness reported she returned to class and told her that no action was going to be taken. nothing happened and she was still going to get beat up. if the school knew about specific incidents of bullying or threats, from which this document is sounds like they did, you know, you got to ask
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why wouldn't the school do more to stop the behavior. >> anderson, it's hard to wrap your mind around this happening so you don't -- if anybody thought this was a potentiality, i'm sure they would have responded. this gets ugly. even in cases where young people don't wind up killing themselves they can be scarred for the rest of their life. here's the thing. this was not an isolated incident where somebody just rolled up on this young woman and started harassing her for a few days. everything we can learn about this, this went on for months, three months, now, think about that. that's 12 weeks. that's an entire fall. if that's going on, you can't tell me that somebody either didn't know or if they didn't know they should have known. your question becomes are they simply not telling the truth
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about what they knew or so incompetent as to not pay attention to what was going on. >> it wasn't just one or two people according to the district attorney but two groups of kids who were basically linked up with two different young men who phoebe had had a relationship with and i mean so you have two groups obviously it grows exponentially. on the day she died there was intense verbal bullying that took place in the school auditorium. some of the defendants calling her a slut, a whore. she was walking home and a vehicle in which one of these girls was passing by through an empty energy drink at her, threw it at miss prince while laughing, said something again degrading to her. you know, it's only words and physical action. but words -- i mean for a teenage girl, it can be
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incredibly brutal. >> it can be incredibly brutal. here's the thing, you talk about physical injury but what we know psychologically is that psychological injury, verbal abuse, mental emotional abuse can have a much more devastating effect on someone than physical abuse. i mean, you can get hit, a fat lip. that's not okay to put your hands on somebody else in anger. that heals and you get over it. barbara colorossa was a bullying expert and went to the school and the spokesperson for phoebe's family. both of them reported to me that there was post-death conduct that went on, that there were children at a dance two days after the death or three days after the death first off, why are you having a celebratory dance two or three days after one of your students has taken their own life >> that's incredible. i didn't even know that. >> they had a cotillion dance two or three days later. barbara says she had reports from students that there were kids mimicking hanging themselves at the dance. making fun of this.
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that there were sites up on the website after this happened that were continuing to bully this child in her absence. i mean, come on. what is going on with a system that says this is okay? >> yeah, the governor of massachusetts deval patrick today said it was incredibly upsetting and said the adults don't seem to have acted like adults. in addition to the responsibility of the school, again, we got to come back to the responsibility of the parents of these kids accused of bullying and its allegations made by the district attorney. multiple kids we're talking about. we haven't heard anything from their parents. the one parent who made a public statement basically said, look,
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her daughter didn't do anything too bad. wasn't physical violence. >> there are warning signs for parents to know if your child is being a bully. what needs to happen is these parents need -- right now i think the school and parents alike are being advised by lawyers and they're saying we didn't know if we knew we would have acted. >> it also seems like a lot of this was from other girls in the school who had been involved with the two boys that phoebe was allegedly involved with at one point. and their friends. i mean, it often seems like girls to girls can be just as vicious -- we often think of harassment as being between boys an girls. it seems in this case there was a lot of harassment between the girls. >> and it is astounding to me how vicious and brutal these young girls can be to one another. sometimes it is physical just like it is with the boys, but it is always -- if there is
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harassment there is name-calling. there is exclusion, there is isolation, there's intimidation and, listen, they don't do these things in front of teachers and the vast majority of teachers throughout the education system in america are loving, caring, devoted people and this happens outside their awareness. but we have to put in curriculums. we have to put in a way where this does get put into the spotlight so it can be get stopped. this didn't have to happen. >> no doubt bit. dr. phil, thanks. join the live chat at a lot talking about it online. some of haiti's kids going back to school for the first time. we'll show you what a classroom looks like in the ravaged city of port-au-prince. ski patrol. this guy is in trouble. wait till you see what happens next. our "shot of the day." welcome to the world of lovaza, where nature meets science.
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saving haiti. 80% of schools in port-au-prince
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war destroyed or damaged. imagine that. 80% of the schools. this week they started to reopen some of them. for a lot of kids, back to school means class in a tent. gary tuchman has an up close look. >> reporter: at this heavily damaged school in port-au-prince, a blackboard frozen in time. a lesson from january 12th, the day of the earthquake. the school has been closed ever since. so, too, have almost all of the schools here -- until now. this week, most schools reopened with many classes in tents. that girl's school, they're learning about manners in english class. >> excuse me? excuse me? >> reporter: they're getting counseling about the tragedy at this boys school. this teacher saying, we'll learn from the earthquake how to take precautions if it happens again. for many schools not yet open because of heavy damage, new
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structures are hastily being built. but most other schools, this is a great week. formal education for the children has resumed. >> it's a good day for me to see my friends, to greet them. for me, i think that education is the best. >> reporter: what do you want to do when you grow up? >> when i grow up, i want to be a doctor. >> reporter: really? >> yes. >> reporter: do you know what kind of doctor? >> i want to be a surgeon. >> reporter: wow. i think that coming back to school is an important thing for that, right? >> yes. >> reporter: you're happy to be here? >> yes. >> reporter: it's a great relief, isn't it? >> yes. >> reporter: 11 of the children at this girls school were killed in the quake. more than 400 others have not returned. but about half the students are back. sister ann marie is the
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principal and says that they're taking it slowly. >> translator: we're not going to get into very serious subject matter straight away. we're waiting for the government to give us a new curriculum. we haven't received it yet. >> which one you like better? the like the purple one better. >> reporter: most teachers have not been paid since the quake. at this school, teachers have been told they'll get back pay. in the meantime, they're trying to be gentle with their students. >> they should have less home work to do. but i plan that we have more for them than before. >> reporter: nearly three months after the earthquake, vivid reminders are almost everywhere you look. but nothing symbolizes the recovery and the future more than seeing children learning, singing, smiling. the effort to rebuild this nation will take many years. the children we talked with in school today will be the leaders of that effort tomorrow. ♪ these girls are singing tomorrow will be the glory of haiti. we will always walk forward. and that is precisely the attitude that is needed in haiti at this time of such need. gary tuchman, cnn, port-au-prince, haiti. nice to see kids back in school.
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a quick check of some other stories. lisa bloom has the 360 bulletin. congressman bart stupac of michigan said he won't seek re-election. he has been the target of tea party activists for playing a key role in getting health care reform passed. the associated press is reporting that a letter from 1985 shows that before becoming pope, cardinal joseph ratsinger dismissed pleas to remove a
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bishop who was charged with molesting children. he said he wanted to make sure he didn't abuse children. there were no known cases of abuse before he was removed. the dow jones industrial average pierced the 11,000 mark briefly today. the first time in 18 months. though the blue chips finished the day at 10,997. and day two at the masters. tiger woods is just two strokes behind the leaders after shooting a two under 70 today, proving his layoff due to his sex scandal doesn't seem to be hurting his game any. tiger's return has boosted ratings for the tournament there. they're up 50% from last year according to kneelson. and now anderson, i achieved my dream of being a sports reporter. >> you did very well. i know you're an avid skier. maybe you'll get a kick out of our shot. takes place on the slopes. and it's -- well, it's pretty
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