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the only thing i can imagine is when he changed his name, he wanted attention. so congratulations. mission accomplished on the riduculist. we're in new hampshire for tomorrow's primary. i spoke with two of the candidates today here in manchester. rick santorum and jon huntsman, about their chances in tomorrow's vote. then, president obama. his chief of staff is stepping down. will the democratic be partially responsible, one of his top advisers here tonight in person. and iran sentencing an american marine to death. they say he's a spy. let's go "outfront." i'm erin burnett, tonight, live from a seasonably chilly new hampshire. polls open less than 12 hours in
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the state's gop primary. the second contest in the race to the white house. it's romney's race to lose here tonight. we went to some l of the campaign headquarters today. we talked to volunteers, went into a cigar shop and i smell a little bit and some passion for a guy that a lot of people say doesn't spark passion. now, we got some good shots of the candidates calling supporters and asking for their vote tomorrow. we also got to talk to mitt romney's only brother and he revealed something interesting about his brother that i had never heard before i will virtually guarantee you have never heard. but the romney campaign has a reason to be confident. let's run through a couple of the latest polls. romney at the 33%. paul with 20% and jon huntsman, who has spent basically all his time in this state in third with about 13%. there's a second poll which gives romney a bigger legal.
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huntsman and santorum tied at 11. mitt is on top and his opponents have attacked him today. gingrich super pack set to blanket south carolina with ads like this one. >> mitt romney became ceo of bain capital the day it was formed. his mission, to reap massive rewards for himself and his investors. >> they don't care who i am. >> he's for small businesses. no, he isn't. he's not. >> now, romney defends his record, but today, he said something that caught the ears of his rivals. >> i want individuals to have their own insurance. that means the insurance company will have an incentive to keep you healthy. it also means that if you don't like what they do, you can fire them. i like being able to provide people that provide services to me.
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>> all right, critics jumping all over that last line, rick perry's selling it as a ring tone, dnc made an attack ad in a matter of hours. he was simply talking about the virtue of competition. senior adviser to romney, russ, good to see you. what was he really trying to say? was this just a bad joke and he's trying to say we all like the fire the cable guy? >> we'd all like to be able to fire our insurance company. we've all had experiences with insurance company that gives us bad service. choice of insurance companies is a good thing and the ability to tell your insurance company you're not going to job for me that we want a new company is a good thing. the difference is that under obama care, you won't be able to fire your insurance company. it will be one and the other. >> so, i understand what you're saying. that context is important. is it fair to say you wish he hadn't said it that way? >> i think as you're talking
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about wanting to fire your insurance company and about choice in insurance, that's a good argument to have. we like to have that. >> so, no kind of i wish you hadn't of made that joke, it wasn't that funny? >> it's important to talk about the differences. we would like choice and urn the obama administration, you won't have that. >> let's talk about what happened with bain today. you've got that 20 some odd minute film that -- newt gingrich is going to put ads in south carolina. had stories in many newspapers including "the wall street journal" and bain. i mean, that is where this whole sensitivity on firing comes from. >> sure. >> in private equity, you fire people to make companies stronger, but firing is part of it. >> listen, we always expected that the obama administration would put free enterprise on trial in the campaign.
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free enterprise is something governor romney believes in strongly. it believes in the free enterprise system. we never thought that the first witness would be newt gingrich. it seems he's attacked from the left. this is the third time he's done this. first, he sat down on the couch with nancy pelosi to talk about climate change. he called the paul ryan plan on medicare reform and spending cuts right wing social engineering and now, he's attacking from the left in the same playbook as barack obama and the liberals. we're very comfortable in defending free enterprise and romney's record and creating jobs. >> and you're sure it's going to end with a creating? >> if you take a look at the companies governor romney's been involved in, there's clearly more jobs have been created. >> so, let's talk about tomorrow. looking back in 2008, 32%. 32.2 or something that he got. a big part of the narrative has
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been he's got to do better. he's got this threshold nationally. >> i think if 32% is going to win, we're fine with that. if we get 35%, we win, that's great. 29% and win. i think what we'd like our bar, we won by eight votes last tuesday. we'd like to win by more this time. >> that's a low bar. >> we'll start there and work our way up. >> let me ask you a question about the campaign. i was at your headquarters today. people of all ages there. a lot of young people. it looked like you guys have little kind of laptop computers that were issued from the campaign. is that true? and can you tell me what it is that you're running this campaign in here, so it's got this reputation. of being really organized. >> they're call lists. and we've identified people who we know are going to turn out or indicated support for governor
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romney and our goal is to make sure we get as many people who indicated they're going to turn out for governor romney to show up and vote. >> we're going to meet some of those people. as i said, it's in here. >> you got your cigar. >> i got a cigar. >> cool. >> thank you very much. >> anytime. >> with mitt romney. i met a lot of romney supporters today and one told me something about the candidate that i didn't know until today and as i said, i'm pretty sure you may not have heard this either. where's the human side of mitt romney? what's this guy really like. when i ran into his older brother who had just come into town, just for the day, he was knocking on doors. here's what scott romney had to say about mitt. >> what makes you think he's the right guy? >> he's a great leader. a true leader and has a vision for this country and he's the guy that can make, that can turn this economy around. >> do you have any kind of a good little story about something he did when he was a kid he shouldn't have done?
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>> well, they also loved cars and could always make the great sounds of cars when he was a little kid. i'm an older brother, so i heard him often making the sounds of skeeling around corners. he's a fun guy and a terrific guy. great brother to me and he'll be a great leader to this country. >> have you been knocking on doors? >> i've made calls and i'll do whatever they need me to do. stand in the back of the bus if they want. >> we got to hear mitt romney's car noiss. a little formula one action. good to see both of you. i didn't know that. you probably didn't know that. good at car noses, looging for the human side. >> that's one of the equal kagss for being president. >> so today, when mitt romney made the comment about firing your insurance company. how damaging is this going to be to him?
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>> of course it's out of context, but it's going to be the last thing that a lot of people hear before they wake up to go to the polls. it is out of context, but does confirm the negative stereostip types. doesn't help, but i don't think it's going to dominate the campaign. >> it was completely rehearsed. >> the description is also true that historically, presidents have gotten into trouble because they do not like firing people. if president obama fired eric holder, that would be butter than if george burn fired donald rumsfeld. roosevelt wouldn't -- they don't like to do it. if you have a president who's a little bit more willing to say you're not measuring up after all those people worked for us, too, you want them to do a good job. >> you and i saw this this morning. john allen and i traveled up here together.
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todd palin endorsing newt gingrich. you're laughing. what does that mean? is that a sarah palin endorsement in deguise? >> the reason it's resognating is because it's seen as a de facto win. that's significant. the palin family has a real influence among this party and they're the kind of people gingrich is going to need to rally around. >> rick santorum says he'll be handing mitt romney. >> doesn't look that way. if santorum comes out of this state not in the top one or two or three, then he becomes to look like the original candidate and gingrich is in fourth place, this race pretty quickly comes down to the ron paul protest candidacy versus the mitt romney juggernaut. >> in new hampshire with the signs, mitt romney, ron paul. see you begin in a few minutes. coming up, we talk to some of
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these candidates today. had a chance to walk around with santorum and also surging in new hampshire, jon huntsman and a surprising departure. president obama's chief of staff. president's top advisers is here in manchester. we'll be back. a so glad to get . just to be able to wake up in the morning on your own. that's a big accomplishment to me. i don't know how much money i need. but i know that whatever i have that's what i'm going to live within. ♪ ♪
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i'm in manchester, new hampshire tonight just 12 hours before the polls open. rick santorum is among the candidates hoping to get a last minute pop, hoping to keep his momentum alive. today, "the wall street journal" wrote an op-ed called rick santorum's economy. we talked about that and sweater vests. here he is. senator, thanks so much for taking a couple of seconds.
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"wall street journal" today op-ed rick santorum's economy. the take away was we'd score mr. santorum's economic agenda is bolder as romney's, but not as huntsman and gingrich. what do you think? >> it's fairly accurate. i'm not a -- a wall street kind -- "wall street journal" necessary kind of plan because we do focus on the manufacturing sector of the economy. they don't like that idea of looking at sectors. they sort of like things across the board, but we're losing a battle for our jobs that are dramatically affecting blue collar workers and small town america where manufacturing is and that's going to continue to happen because tax policy, regulatory policy, is making our manufacturers uncompetitive with our biggest trade partners so we've got to adjust government policy so they can compete. i know it wouldn't be popular with the folks, but i don't
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really care. >> you're okay -- >> but i've got to do what i think is in the best interest of the people of the country. >> so you're not worried about charges of oh, you're picking winners. then they say well, why just manufactures. how do you pick them? >> every processor in america gets treated the same. but you know, for example, we're not going to give a tax break to cnn. cnn's not moving china. walmart's not moving to china. we're losing jobs in this country because the competition to make things. those are the jobs that move where you have global come pettiveness. it is that sector that provides the opportunity for average people in america to be able to rise and get that job instead of paying $55,000, that's the average paying job in america, for manufacturers, it's $77,000.
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that's a difference in the lives of people. you can upgrade skills, move up not just to those manufacturing jobs, but a lot of guys move up into the management, into those positions of leadership. it's a ladder. for a long time, the lower and middle rungs have broken. we need to repair those and that's what i think we're doing. >> i know you're in a rush and are leaving. i see your sweater vest has rick santorum on it. >> we're selling them online. $100. part campaign donation and part, be in with the vest. should i give the line? no. >> just gave you the look. hogan -- >> one of my supporters said this is my second amendment vest. the right to bear arms. you like it? >> it's so bad it's good. >> it's not my line. one of our supporters sent that in.
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>> i heard you have these in like nine colors. you got them at joseph a. banks. >> we did. so i've heard. there's a report on that. we're actually and for the record, we're out there finding vests made in america to embroider and sell on our website. >> all right, 100 bucks. >> well, come on. >> help me out a little bit. you want to participate in it, you've got to help us. >> thanks so much. good to see you. >> pleasure. >> all right. i'm here now to talk about the president's side of all of this. with bill burton. right to bare arms. you don't have a coat on. >> i'm from buffalo. this is like an unseasonably arm summer. >> i was joking to bill that i had on little -- first of all, what brings you to manchester tonight? >> just thought i'd come and see how the political process is unfolding. >> for those who don't know, one of the president's super packs.
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so, what have you seen? anything to make your wor ared? >> this mitt romney's not really ready for prime time. he goes out on a day which is pretty important for the romney campaign, he makes one of the biggest gaffes possible and jokes, makes light of how much he enjoys firing people. something that demonstrates he's not really ready for a general election. >> all right, so you come out on the attack, but what about in your hood today? bill daily reasoning. a lot of talk there had been tension. he's resigning to run the president's re-election campaign. tough time to make a switch, isn't it? >> i think a lot of people are transitioning from jobs in government to jobs on political campaigns. keep in mind that he was a great chief of staff for the president. he was there on his very first day. congresswoman giffords was shot and throughout his tenure, there
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was a lot of tough things to deal with. osama was killed. the payroll tax debate. now he goes on to help with one of the biggest jobs, re-election. >> your job is to sell the president's re-election. what's easier to sell? obama-biden or obama-hillary clinton? >> i think there's been a lot of chatter about this notion that secretary clinton might join the ticket, but i tell you what, even privately, president obama would tell you that one of the best decisions he's made in politics was putting biden on his ticket during the campaign last time around. joe biden is a strong, important, close adviser to the president. he was. he remains that and he's not leaving the ticket. he's a great adviser if the president, but also a great guy to have around and the president's not going to stop that for anything. >> all right. and if you're not right, you'll hear this sound bite many times. thank you very much. good to see you. as you can see, manchester
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important for both parties and shows it matters for the current president as well. a former u.s. marine is sentenced to die in iran. they say he's a spy. the american government's condemned the decision and demanded his release. more on that and newt gingrich spending millions upon millions in south carolina. it's casino money. we're going to tell you how much in tonight's number. would you take it? well, there is. [ male announcer ] it's called ocuvite. a vitamin totally dedicated to your eyes, from the eye-care experts at bausch + lomb. as you age, eyes can lose vital nutrients. ocuvite helps replenish key eye nutrients. [ male announcer ] ocuvite has a unique formula not found in your multivitamin to help protect your eye health. now, that's a pill worth taking. [ male announcer ] ocuvite. help protect your eye health. trouble with a car insurance claim. [ dennis ] switch to allstate. their claim service is so good, now it's guaranteed. [ foreman ] so i can trust 'em.
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running a campaign is a costly endeavor and one of the biggest expenses is advertisinging. so today, mitt romney's super pack announced it would spend $2.3 million in ads that will air in south carolina on tuesday. but he's not the only one with supporters making a big ad buy. >> everything corporations earn ultimately goes to people. >> the super pack supporting gingrich will be spending $3.4 million on ads beginning on wednesday.
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now, this leads us to our number tonight. 309,000. that's how much winning our feature the gingrich super pack be spend on ads a day. the median household income in south carolina is $42,580, which means gingrich supporters will spend seven times as much on campaign ads each day as the average south carolinan will make each year. traditionally, spending 300 to $500,000 would buy you a week's worth of advertising throughout the state and that's how much they're spending per day this time around. coming up next, we went to a man cave here in manchester. we got some cigars and we talked to some of the smokers. that's why i smell right now. and my interview with john hunt man and his wife, listen carefully.
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we start the second half of our show with stories we care about or focus on, let the reporting do the work. number one tonight, we are live in new hampshire ahead of tomorrow's gop primary and mitt romney seems to be the man to beat. rivals have been going after him today after he said he'd quote, like to be able to fire people while talking about health insurance companies. ross schaffer said he doesn't regret that romney said that because it was an important point about health insurance. he also said he's like romney to win in new hampshire by more than he won in iowa, by just eight votes. they're trying to set the barlow to make sure they can clear it. two, a former army soldier has been charged. a source told us it's not believed craig benedict backed some compromised information. he was stopped in kane area. the fbi says he was trying to get into somalia to join the terror group.
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number three, joe and sue paterno donated $100,000 to penn state university just weeks after the coach was fired. the gift was evenly split between the paterno library and fellow's program. penn state's board of trustees fired the 85-year-old paterno in november following sex abuse allegations by jerry sandusky. consumer bow rowed surged in november. the jump in revolving credit. $5.6 billion. the biggest jump since march 2008. revolving credit in english, that's credit card debt, probably for holiday gifts. one analyst told "outfront" the willingness to take on debt will stay subdued. it has been 157 days since the u.s. lost its top create rating.
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what are we doing to get it back? europe is going to drive on sentiment, angela merkel and nicolas sarkozy met today and pushed european leaders to reach an agreement on new rules by the beginning of march. we'll believe it when we fanlly see it. he's calling himself the underdog. jon huntsman has been moving up in the polls in new hampshire. the former republican governor of utah who also severed to president obama in china is now in third place in the granite state. now, he's also making a move on intrade. that is a really neat thing. you can go online and make bets on everything from hurricanes to wheat crops, but also on what candidate will win the gop nomination. he's now taken second place behind mitt romney in that race. the primary is tomorrow. can he do what santorum did in iowa? he and his wife stopped by our set a short time ago and i asked
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them what would define victory for them tomorrow. >> whatever you set as expeck tases, we've got to exceed that. i can't tell you from a quantitative standpoint what that means. you set the expectation, the bar. we've got to find tomorrow that we exceed that. >> and somebody had said you'd have to have a hit in the park headline to get the momentum you need. is that true? you said one, two, three or four, any of the above are okay? >> to keep going, we've got to exceed expectations. i'd love an out of the ballpark moment. that would be great. new hampshire has had a lot of that moments. to that end, we've invested a lot of time and effort into this state. 170 public events. our messaging has been right on in terms of talking about the economic deficit and trust deficit. it really is kaekt connecting, but more than that, they feel
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your heart and soul. >> let me ask you about something going on today between you and mitt romney. here's what he had to say about jobs and liking to fire people. here he is. >> i want individuals to have their own insurance. that means the insurance company will have an incentive to keep you healthy. it also means if you don't like what they do, you can fire them. i like being able to fire people who provide services to me. >> i don't know if he was joking, but here's what you said earlier today on the campaign trial in response. >> i will always put my country first. it seems that governor romney believes in putting politics first. governor romney enjoys firing people. i enjoy creating jobs. >> now, do you think that was entirely fair or it seems like he was trying to make a joke like about liking to fire the cable or insurance guy. >> well, he said he enjoys firing people.
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this time is very painful for families. moms and dads, kids, homes and communities. we ought to be talking about job creation. >> so even if he was joking, you don't think it was funny. >> people are are going to take out of that, that comment of liking to fire people. i'm not sure that's the kind of tone this country's looking for right now in our next leader. >> when you thought a lot about this campaign. obviously, you've got momentum on your side in new hampshire, but you look at south carolina and florida, it's 1, 2%. what do you think is the reason for that? is that the fault of the reason party? closely enough at your husband or is that the campaign's fault? >> i think it's beginning to come full circle. i think when he first got into this race, he was dismissed
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because he crossed party lines. he addressed that beautifully yesterday by saying he will always put his country first. >> let's list ton that change. >> the person who should represent our party running against president obama is not someone who called him a remarkable leader and went to be his ambassador in china. >> this nation is divided, david, because of attitudes like that. >> let me ask you. when you took the job with president obama, why did you do it? did you like a lot of independents in this country, believe in him at that time? >> i believed in my country and he was the president of my country. people were to say, well, that fs a great plan to set yourself up to run for president of the united states. i'd say nonsense. why would anybody leave as governor to work with somebody of the competing political party all the way in china? it's because i believe in my country first. sincerely. that's at my core and that's the philosophy i'll take to my
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grave. if there's an opportunity to do something good, i'm going to be there. >> your adopted chinese daughter, gracie, on a postage stamp. let me ask you this question though because i think a lot of people, there have been some inappropriate ads as ron paul called them himself about your family, but a lot of people probably are curious. what made you make the decision to adopt two more children and from china? >> as jon likes to say, we had a little more love to give. the first time we thought about it, i was pregnant with our third child, lee, and we were living in taiwan. went up to the steps of the catholic or fannage and wanted to go in. and i went home that day and i said, some day, we've got to do this. and i remember him saying to me, some day, maybe not right now as i was pregnant with number
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three, so we went on and had more children. the interesting thing about our story that i think anyone that's adopted has had some amazing story that they can't quite explain. on may 19th, 1999, he said to me, i'm finally warl warming up to the idea of this chinese baby. and we went through the whole process and finally got a call from china. we said -- when was she born? may 19th, 1999. i'll never forget that. i thought, they've found our little girl. it was such an extraordinary experience that we said, let's do it one more time and let's go to india and take another little child. so they've been the greatest gifts to our family and my children say they want to go adopt and my adopted children say, i want to do the same thing. >> and what about them in school? i know it's got to be hard because you're here. how has that worked out? i know this is a personal question.
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>> with the campaign? >> right. >> we have a big family and with our girls that people are beginning to see out on the trail, we have juggled quite a bit. they're there watching sometimes and we go back and forth. they have been so supportive. gracie is so excited and jon calls her his senior foreign policy adviser. 12 years old. the 6-year-old, all she says is daddy's running for a surprise. >> that's what she says? >> they're excited. >> she doesn't quite understand what's going on. >> she knows it's a surprise. >> she has caught the most important concepts. before we go, south carolina, assuming that this is not a state for you, what about florida? i know that's where you're from and originally, your headquarters were in florida. you're going to be in florida no matter what, is that true? >> we've got to move this market in new hampshire. we've got to win exceeding market expectations. that will keep us ahead of steam
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moving into south carolina then on to florida. that's just the way it works. you've got to prove to people that you can nail that intangible electability. that will cause more finances to come in. it strengthens your volunteer base. >> and you just had your best fund raising day ever. >> absolutely. and with each passing hour of the day, probably going to have another one. >> how much? >> don't know. don't know what the numbers are, but i suspect today and tomorrow and depending upon how tomorrow night goes, it could be a bonanza. >> there's excitement on the ground. we feel and we see. you know that energy when you feel it. >> thanks so much to both of you. good to see you. good luck. i hope that you get just a little bit of rest. good to see you. all right, pret it clear telegraph there that new hampshire was a must win to get any further.
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new hampshire is ground zero for one of the most amazing trends in this country politically and that is the eyes. 40% of americans consider themselves independent voters. so, which candidate has the most to gain from them tomorrow and come november? and then, oh, no, where did it go? my cigar. we smoke out the truth about the new hampshire vote at a cigar bar named castro's. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. i tried weight loss plans... but their shakes aren't always made for people with diabetes. that's why there's new glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. and they have 6 grams of sugars. with 15 grams of protein to help manage hunger... look who's getting smart about her weight. [ male announcer ] new glucerna hunger smart. a smart way to help manage hunger and diabetes.
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to get yours, go to we do this at the same time every night, our outer circle and tonight, we begin in iran. the country boasting to the world that it's enriching uranium at another nuclear facility. this comes on the same day that iran sentenced a former u.s. marine to death. the 28-year-old was convicted of being a spy for the cia. the white house demands his release. the death penalty for an american. can the united states negotiate for his freedom? i asked retired army general james marx. >> absolutely. this is a young man who was a marine who served honor bly and i must assume a portion was in combat. what's difficult here is a former marine in tehran, although his family is from iran, getting him back becomes a
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more difficult task for the united states. >> and now, to england and an update of the murder mystery we've been covering. the body of a young woman found on queen elizabeth's estate has been identified as a 17-year-old. the victim was a lat vito yan immigrant first reported missing in august. max foster is our royal correspondent and we asked him about what happens now. >> well, police want to hear from anyone who had organized functions or events in the area at the beginning of august, beginning of september. they've spoken to royal staff including the game keeper and estate manager and the queen who's staying on the estate hasn't been questioned, but is being kept informed. >> a 25-year-old florida man charged with plotting a terrorist attack says he did it to avenge muslims.
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a naturalized u.s. citizen allegedly planned to bomb nightclubs, a sheriff's office and heavily populated areas of tampa. he had been banned from two mosques and was arrested on saturday and charged with the attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction. paul, appreciate you taking the time. what happened today with this charge? >> well, he was arrested on saturday and finally produced before a federal judge in florida today. for basically a bond hearing to determine how much bail should be set on the case. they appointed a federal public defender and waved the bond hearing. he's been sent back to prison. i guess his lawyer decided it was pointless. he's been sent back into prison. >> all right. and from the u.s. attorney's press conference today, it was pretty interesting watching
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that. what was your take away? >> this is part of the u.s. jus is department's program. they've done these sting operations where they get wind of something they think is a terrorist, they get undercovers on them right way wa and instead of the person buying a bomb from a legitimate supplier, they end up dealing with fbi agents and find themselves under arrest. justice has said this is a necessary way to stop terrorism in the united states. >> frightening story. thank you so much. interesting and important to note that he had been kicked out of the mosques. with one day to go, the key to winning new hampshire is going to be the independent vote. it's one of the most amazing things about this state. more than 40% of primary voters are renl centered as independents. a new gallup poll shows a new record high. that's the 40% of americans call
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themselves independents in 2011. the question is, who will actually get their votes? senator rand paul predicted it would be his dad while on the campaign trial this morning. >> i think there's a remote chance we could pull an upset here if there was a large independent turnout. if all of a sudden in the last two days, independents said we want to send a message and get out and vote. the great thing about new hampshire is independents can vote in this primary. >> ron paul in second place trailing mitt romney. there's a lot of avid paulites in manchester. mccain got 40% of the independent vote in 2008 and romney got 27%, something mitt romney needs to turn around. promising to be back, from the "daily beast," and sad about it now, because it's cold.
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independents, i know you're passionate about it. it's my duty and responsibility to make up my mind and vet these guys for the rest of the country. i take it seriously. how will it go tomorrow? >> that's the great x factor in this election. ron paul and mitt romney competing heavily for them. if they can eat away at the independent voters, disgusted with hyper partisan ship, they can make a competitive showing. that's what's so unique about new hampshire, open primary where independent voters can vote and why it makes it a swing state and exciting, all about independents. >> in the cigar store, everybody all about their party and want to share. why do you think independents should go for jon huntsman,
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>> i think jon huntsman will appeal to the moderate independents. there are two types of independents in new hampshire. one type is people genuinely moderate and another type anti-establishment. those will go for ron paul. the ones moderate will go for jon huntsman. >> you really think that's the case, he will get the passion or you think the surge or your endorsement may have come too late? >> a lot of people decide at the last minute. we have seen huge swings in new hampshire at the last minute. i do think as huntsman was saying on your program a few minutes ago, he needs a surprise and second place would be a surprise, kind of what he's aiming for and that's what he needs. >> john avalon, which way do they go for in the general. >> once they nominated sarah palin, some of the love for mccain started falling apart. the president has been focused on independents but losing their
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support precipitously in head to head matchups. mitt romney beats him with independents. they're independent minded and will make up their own mind who will be the next president of the united states. a cnn reporter walks into a cigar bar. i have to admit by the way, john avalon bought this cigar, not me. maybe i will try it out. i don't know. which candidate will get the last laugh from those men in tomorrow's primary?
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so we've heard a lot about how voters don't seem to be that motivated for this campaign. take iowa. last week, just 4% of young voters showed up for the caucuses down from 13% in 2008. that's not what we've seen in new hampshire, at least in terms of campaigning. today, we saw young people out holding signs for ron paul and young people manning the phones for newt gingrich and mitt romney. even kids who won't be able to vote were out at mitt romney's headquarters this afternoon. >> jonas is 16 and ida is 17 and they each called more than 100 people today on behalf of romney. >> it's hard to believe the candidate for the president of the united states could be roaming my streets. i'm surprised more people don't come up.
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>> we came up here today to help out the last day before the primaries. >> you literally got on a train with your dad and came up? >> yes. >> missing school? >> no. actually, we have a week off to explore an interest of ours. this is what i'm doing. >> i believe in the american system. i've gotten a lot more appreciative of democracy since i've been on this campaign. it's so much fun. >> i would love to volunteer for more political campaigns. this has given me a more personal look how they work and it's been fascinating. >> on the other side of the age spectrum, i visited a cigar bar called castros. i stumbled on it. i was the only woman in a wave of smoke. these patron, all regulars, had decide who'd they're voting for tomorrow and firmly so. >> who will get your vote tomorrow, have you decided? >> yes. i don't mind telling you, mitt. >> how come? >> em. >> anybody but obama, but mitt has a business background and that's what we certainly need in
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this country. somebody that understands business and will keep government out of business. >> i just changed parties, actually. to republican. and i'll be voting for jon huntsman. >> i've watched some of the debates, and he seems to be interested to work with both sides, both parties, and he seems fair and mature about the way he approaches government. >> i am voting, i'm a registered republican. i'm voting for mitt romney. i've been a fan of mitt romney's since the olympics. i backed him in 2008 and i think he's the best manned in the field today. >> it's motivating as an american to see how seriously new hampshire takes its roll in our elections. the two teenagers working in mitt romney's office says they get hung up on and fatigued by making phone calls and something we keep hearing no one is, pretty passionate who they're voting f


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