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judgment. the moral of the story i let's try to remember our table manners. the napkin on the lap. no ek bbreaking waiter's finger. that's it for us tonight. thanks for watching. we'll see you again at 10:00. "piers morgan tonight" starts now. tonight, the fighter mark wahlberg battles his way up from the mean streets of boston. >> as soon as i ended up being incarcerated, i said this is not the life for me. >> rapper, underwear model and producer. he's a sex symbol would promises his wife no sex scenes. >> it's just uncomfortable and awkward. >> plus, cuba gooding jr. and terrence howard. their remarkable movie about heroic black pilots from world war ii. >> till he tried to make a quote/unquote black film or for black stars in an action movie, he didn't really understand what it was like. >> and my pal jimmy fallon stops by to share his song about nfl
sensation tim tebow or tebowie as we've renamed him. this is "piers morgan tonight." ♪ snap the football and may god's love be with me ♪ mark wahlberg's had an extraordinary career. going from the tough streets to a net worth of millions. he's an oscar-nominated actor and producer. my favorite mark wahlberg movie is "boogie nights." he joins me now. i see you raising your eyebrows. did we get it too low? >> no, is there a check someone is holding? my gosh. >> are any of these figures ever true you read about? >> not usually unless it's a divorce settlement and that's pretty spot on. >> your movies have grossed $1.5 million. >> that's good. >> you're not exactly on the bread line, are you? >> no, no, i'm very fortunate,
very blessed, thank you. >> you said famously when you got to 40 you would retire and play golf. what happened? you're 40. >> my golf game is crap. it really is. it's bad. you know, i was just working at such a pace that i really felt like i need to figure out ways to spend more time with my family. being off on location is difficult. you know, 50s the new 40 so talk to me in ten years. >> looking at you now, it's hard to remember the rapper marky mark. there you are in your very immaculate suit. the executive haircut. it's all looking pretty grown-up if you don't mind me saying. >> i have a large team that made me over. no, i just, you know, growing up. >> you feel you have? >> yes, in many ways. certainly parenthood and being a husband, you know, forces you to. >> you've had an extraordinary upbringing as i said at the start there. i actually went to boston once.
>> and you made it back. >> it felt like tough streets. you know, you've been very honest and open about those days. when you look back on it, how tough was it in reality, do you think? >> well, you know, it depends. i always wanted to be one of the guys. so in order to be one of the guys anded have thguy guys and have that kind of respect you had to do things that were more dangerous. as soon as i ended up incarcerated, i said this is not the life for me. >> you were a brawler. coke addict at sort of 13, 14. you got into gang stuff. just about everything imaginable. and then you had almost what looks like from the outside to be this kind of huge epiphany. as you say, coming from that prison experience, you were very lucky, you met this catholic priest who guided you. tell me about what was going through your mind. for a lot of people going to prison becomes the start of the rest of their lives and it's not pretty. how did you manage, do you think, to make that break, to
get out of that culture? >> well, i had to make the choice personally. then i had to focus on my faith and my faith has really allowed me to overcome a lot of things. and hard work. nothing come easy. especially when you've got your back against the wall and a lot going against you. i wanted to prove to people through my actions, not my words, i was going to change. i was going to make a positive impact on the community i come from. that's why i do so much youth work and, you know, with our foundation and with inner city kids and partnering with taco bell in the graduate to go program. i could not forget about where i came from. and find myself in this position without helping, giving back. >> when that prison door shuts for the first time, and you're in the cell, can you remember how you felt? >> of course. of course. you know, and i was 17 at the time. i was probably about 5'3", 115 pounds. and it was -- it was pretty scary. then again there was a lot of neighborhood guys there. i had a few confrontations.
it was really just a matter of, okay, do i want to now get in jail, start getting high. or am i going to focus, start going to church and get out of here and never look back. >> did your behavioral pattern change dramatically when you came out? >> it did. it's also very hard because now you're back into that environment. it's not like all a sudden i could say, well, i grew up in this bad place and i don't want to be around these guys anymore so i'll move to california. you're still in the neighborhood. it makes it more difficult because you're not one of the guys. if you're not with them, you're against them. that can be difficult to the train station, trying to go to work and having a real job, you know. i had to face them. find out who your real friends are. now looking back, those guys have to respect me for what i did, you know. >> rough though it was and tough, what were the things you got from that lifestyle which have been of benefit to you in the new world that you have? >> well that real-life experience is so much more powerful i think in my job,
especially as an actor, than anything. also in my business approach, you know. i was always a hustler. i was always a multitasker. even when i was doing stuff and selling drugs. i always kept a real job so my mother wouldn't quoestion me where did i get the money. i had so much real-life experience to draw on. like in this role in "contra band." i always try to find some personal connection to the part i'm playing. when i did "the departed," they said, do you want to meet the cops? i said, i know these cops. let me do my thing. >> are you a very tough negotiator? >> i'm not. i just make sure my agent is. and my manager. i say yes all day long. i don't say no to anybody or anything. >> i've never met you but i get a sense -- i would imagine you can be pretty uncompromising. >> in my belief certainly. in my position when it comes to certain things and my creativity, yes. you know, you do me a favor,
i'll do you a favor. i don't like asking for favors. i like giving favors. listen, you got to do whatever you got to do to get the job done. >> do the streets ever leave you? >> no, absolutely not. you don't want them to anyway. you have to be able to have that, to tap back into that, if need be. especially now being a father of four kids, beautiful daughters. >> this is fascinating. the way your life has evolved. you have two sons, two girls. also you have your faith. i've read you go to catholic mass every day. is that right? >> yeah, if i don't go to mass necessarily every day but i definitely go to the church every day. that's how i start my day. 15, 20 minutes, say my prayers. >> what does it bring you? >> a very clear focus on what's important, expressing my gratitude of all the blessings that have been bestowed upon me and i reminder every day of what i need to do and focus on. and what i need to stay away from. >> when you pray, what do you pray for? >> i pray to be a good servant to god, a father, a husband, a son, a friend, brother and
uncle. a good neighbor. a good leader to those who look up to me. and a good follower to those who are serving god and do the right thing. people i can look up to and emulate. >> i want to come back and talk about "contra band." i watched it the other night. it's an incredibly raw visceral movie. i want to talk to you about the parallels you said you drew on with your life and the character you play in the film. [ inner voice ] establish connection.
you're going to have to talk me down. >> are you better off? >> one drink away from the worst day of my life. i know i'm not the only one sitting in the circle that's had that same thought, right? that's all you got to do is work the steps. >> i'm not doing another run, no way. >> so i can probably get us money, no problem. it's not going away, chris. >> that's the new film "contra band." you play this reformed smuggler who gets sucked back in. his relative has got sucked into this murky world. >> yeah, it's his brother-in-law. >> you, your character, goes back in to that murky world. >> yes. >> to try to save him. >> my character actually loves the world. it's a thrill. but, you know, he has a wife and two children and his father's doing life in prison for smuggling. and so, you know -- but his
brother-in-law's not the sharpest tool in the shed and he's running some drugs for some very dangerous people. and when customs boards the boat, he has to dump it. not only do they want the money, but they want the street value of it. so they threaten to go after me and my kids if he doesn't pay and kill him. they've already killed his friend. and hospitalized him. so i end up going to panama on a container ship. he's very tough and very physical. he's also very smart. help has to do things that are very kind of practical way, all these different things that happen along the way. i thought it was cool. >> he goes through this kind of moral ethical dilemma every step of the way. it's a very raw movie, isn't it? >> i love it that people start asking me, especially journalist, saying, i wonder why i started finding myself rooting for you and you're already a criminal. i say, yeah, but i'm not as bad as the other guys in the movie so you want to root for me. >> also because your character's been sucked in ostensibly for the right reasons, he's trying
to help -- >> would you do anything to protect your family? >> it's an interesting moral dilemma. you think about that. how far would you go to help a relative who you loved and cared for in that position. do you know the answer? >> you know, probably be the only reason i'd ever go back to prison, if i had to do something to protect my family and there was no other -- there was no other means of doing it. >> what do your family make of your career path? >> it all depends on which part of my family. >> what are the positive parts and what are the negatives? >> my kids could care less. they hate when people come up to us in public, the paparazzi and stuff like that. my family members are very proud of me. my wife knows how hard i work to provide for our family. and our future. and, you know, they're most proud, you know, my mother and my dad before he passed away, they're most proud of the fact i was committed to my family first, my wife and my children.
that was the most important part. >> you hinted before your family, your parents in particular, when they brought you -- you're one of nine kids, they tried to sort of keep you in line. but clearly weren't that successful. what have you learned as a parent from that experience? obviously it's easier for you -- >> my parents both worked two jobs and were never hardly home so we were left to our own deep vices. you go outside and trouble is everywhere. for us, the focus is, a, to keep them busy and to be involved in every aspect of their lives, you know, talk to them about everything. and, you know, it's obviously the most important role that i'll ever play is father and husband and i will not, i will not fail. >> your wife doesn't like you doing sex things. >> yes. nor do i. >> for the character which probably had to have one and you did a deal not to have one but the deal was you would still appear naked on screen. is that right? >> yeah, how'd you hear about that? how'd you hear about that? >> tell me about the deal. >> well, i waited till we were
kind of in the film and i kept talking to the director. you know, these guys have been going out for seven years. they don't really have that kind of sex anymore. she's an actress in the movie and she has a sex scene with somebody else that makes me go wild. i fall of the wagon. i ruin her evening. i basically become a complete mess. i was like i don't really think we need that, you know. maybe a kiss but it's not like it's hot and heavy like it was when they met. just kept -- he knew something was up. then they said, you know. then there was this other thing where at the end i have to take a bath and it was just supposed to be a shot of me in the shower and you just saw my head and i'm trying to scrub away all this dirt i've just experienced and cleanse myself before i, you know, go to prison. and so next thing you know that scene became this whole thing, me getting undressed, me standing there stark naked for a good at hoeight hours -- >> the idea was to keep your wife happy. >> i don't like doing it either. she knows i'm very professional.
it's just uncomfortable and awkwa awkward. i wouldn't want to see her doing that. i don't like doing it. >> you've worked with some of the greats now in hollywood. what have you learned about acting? who do you really rate out there in the acting world? >> daniel day-lewis. russell crowe. denzel washington. >> what does it take to make a great actor? what makes the difference between a good actor and a great actor? >> there are different kind of actors. there are the kind of matinee idols. develop beautiful actors. there are the kind of more real gritty kind of guys i identify with. i grew up watching steve mcqueen, james cagney, john garfield, robert ryan, you know, guys like that. i wouldn't -- i couldn't really connect to the gary gants of the world. for me, it's just somebody that tries to make it real. i think less is more. i think you need to play parts that you're believable in. that helps. >> you said entourage is over.
>> very. >> because i'm distraught. >> it was bittersweet. we never thought the show would last that long. the fact it did, almost felt like it will never end. then it came to an end. we're pushing hard to get the movie made. >> people say to me, it can't be like that. i say it is like that. that's beauty of entourage. >> that was the toned down version. certainly of what my life used to be when i was young and crazy. >> what do you think of the basic shallowness of hollywood? the fact that if you're a hot star, everyone's crawling all over you, kissing ass. the moment it goes cold, boom -- >> that's why you need people around you that will keep you grounded. people always say why do you have your friends around like when i'm working on a movie, i like to hire my friends. i want to have somebody i know and trust and that my best interests at heart. >> what's the big dream role for you? have you got one out there that you think, if i get the chance, that's what i want to do. >> i want to play you. no. >> as high as that?
lofty ambition? >> i don't know. i haven't really thought about it. >> let's take a little break, come back and talk about your foundation. i want to get into the detail of this. how you're trying to basically stop kids opting out of school is the main tenant of this. [ monica ] i'm away on a movie shoot and it hasn't been going exactly as planned. cut. cut! [ monica ] i thought we'd be on location for 3 days -- it's been 3 weeks. so i had to pick up some more things. good thing i've got the citi simplicity card. i don't get hit with a fee if i'm late with a payment... which is good because on this job, no! bigger! [ monica ] i may not be home for a while. [ male announcer ] the new citi simplicity card. no late fees. no penalty rate. no worries.
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one of the leading factors in a teen's future success, a high school dkoochool die mom m. what can one person do to help? takes just one dollar to create a lasting change in a teen's life. just one person can help empower those teens. that's what one person can do. are you the one? >> public service announcement for mark wahlberg's foundation. you've teamed up here with this. this is to end dropout rates in schools. the stats are incredible. 7,000 kids a day drop out of school. the number one reason, getting a job, supporting themselves or their families. not being able to keep up with school work. boredom. negative peer pressure. lack of support. so a third of these kids that drop out actually it's almost
from necessity. they need money. how do you tackle that? as a government? if you're president obama and you're trying to deal with this obviously huge problem what do you do about that problem that part of it, the need to finance a family? >> well, it's extremely difficult. i mean, you know, you look at the economy and the way it is. when i was going to school, i knew how to read, write, add and subtract. i basically said, what else do i need? i've never going to be able to go to college. i'm not going to be able to afford to go to college. i'm not going to get a scholarship. i might as well quit school and start working. i started working at 14. a lot of families are faced with that. especially single parent homes. they have multiple siblings. it's -- i think if i had the answer to that question, i'd be in the office. >> is it a slight problem for you when you face these kids and they know what you did? they said, look at you, you dropped out, now you're this billion dollar movie star.
>> i say the odds of you doing that are slim to none so let's start with an education. get an education so you have something to fall back on. if i fail and my career ends tomorrow, i don't have anything else to fall back on. i'm going to to be sending my kids out to work. but they get it. i talk to them very straight forward. my story and then there's 20 million kids and most of my friends are either dead or in jail. and that's the reality. they live in that world so they get it. they know. i also tell them, you know what, if there's anything you want to do, i am proof you can do that. i don't think dropping out of school is the best idea. it's not a sprint. it's a marathon. if you get your education, if you can get the highest education possible, get it t. and then figure out what you want to do. if you want to pursue your dreams, go ahead. >> the similarities of your life now and matt damon, he has a big passion for education, as you know. he also has four young kids.
you say you get mistaken for him quite a lot. and he does for you. >> yeah, we have this thing that we laugh about. if somebody else comes up and says, hey, matt, i love you, i just say thank you. if they say, are you matt damon? i always say no, brad pitt. he says all the time with "the fighter" and "perfect storm" and this movie and that movie. we both have a similar approach to our job. it's our job. other than that, we want to kind of be left alone and be with our families. >> he seemed a very well-ajusted guy, matt damon. you too. you worked out what is most important in his life. and he works hard to keep that sustained. his marriage, kids, so on. you seem to have come to that place as well. >> yeah. >> how important has your wife been to you? >> the most important person in my life. she's my whole world. she's a wonderful mother. a wonderful wife. all of her focus is on the kids. she supports me in every single way. we have a great thing going. >> what's the future holding for
you? what's in the pipeline? >> a lot of different things. trying to build up my business. both in producing, film and television, working on a lot of businesses outside the entertainment industry. i always felt like a career can be very short-lived. i want to build something i can have for my family. so we're doing -- we launched wahlburgers. we have another restaurant. actually have to come on your show in a couple months to talk about my new sports nutrition line. >> definitely. >> we're going to be in gncs in the spring and in the summer we'll be in select mass stores. >> what's the idea behind that? >> we want people to live a healthy lifestyle. i've always worked out and tried to maintain, you know, keep in shape. we want to motivate people to stay in shape and perform at their best. we literally -- we have some of the best people in the business coming up, helping us design these formulas. it's all science based. partnered up with gnc. doesn't get any better than those guys. >> when you look back over this amazing career you have, all twists and turns, if i had the
power to let you relive one moment again what would you choose? >> i would probably choose not quitting school because that's when everything started to go downhill. that's when the drugs and the violence and all that stuff started to happen so i would have to say that. because i can't really pick one, other than that, because there was thousands that i should have -- a thousand things i should have changed. >> that moment ended up being one of the great pivotal moments. not the least which the passion you now bring to stopping other kids from making that decision. which turned out to be in the short term ruinous for you. >> i agree. it's just, you know, you ask me, it's a tough question to ask somebody who's been through a lot. >> how do you feel having got to 40, you're alive, you're healthy, you're happily married. you got lovely children. a lot of people you knew in the old days, presumably either in jail or dead, you've said that already, how do you feel?
>> blessed. very blessed. the luckiest guy in the world. and i'm happy. i'm just -- if my career ended today, i'd be, you know, i'd be fine because i'm so happy. i've done so much. my family's the most important thing. >> what do you think your dad would have made of the mark wahlberg sitting in front of me now? >> he was around long enough to see me turn it around. his proudest moment was when i got nominated for the oscar. he said, you used to say you got this amount of money, but now you can consider yourself a real actor. that's an accomplishment. he used to watch the academy awards all the time as a kid. he just loved movies. >> he got it then. in that moment, he understood you had become a bona fide success story. >> yeah. he had came to the set of "the departed." and met jack. and it was a thrill for him. >> it's been a thrill for me, mark. >> oh, my pleasure. >> inspiring story.
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milwaukee. >> an extraordinary story. they were the first ever black military pilots. joining me is cuba gooding jr. and his co-star terrence howard. i love this story. the parallels to actually the making of this movie. >> that's right. >> because here you had george lucas, a very famous, very white, hollywood legend. >> has a little bit of a tan. >> almost playing the role of this very brave colonel, noel parish, in the movie, who decides to break the mold, to put black pilots into the military, into the air. george lucas -- i think, terrence, you've said this very eloquently about this movie, the power is similar. he's put a lot of well-known black actors into this movie and hollywood instinctively was, like, this isn't going to work, and he's saying, i'm going to back my judgment, i'm going to back my money, i believe this will work. exactly the same kind of
audacious move that colonel noel parish took. when you made the movie, did you feel that, as you were making it, that this was life coming forward? in a different way but a similar kind of struggle? >> one of the things he said when he first arrived in prague, he said, remember, i'm not making a civil rights movie here. i'm making a film about heroes. this is not about victims. this is a film about heroes. that's what he impressed us with. >> it's an action movie, all black cast, you know, and it is, an audience for it. >> it shouldn't matter, should it? why are we still say things like that? there's a black president, for god sakes. >> that's right. >> why would that even come into the equation? but it has. the movie's coming out. >> oh, it's more than that. it visually has 16,000 visual effect shots in it, okay. it's a huge budget. >> cuba, tell me what you feel about george lucas in doing this. >> i would kiss him right in the
mouth. i'd be one man kissing another man right in his mouth. i'm serious. >> a big thing for this man to do. >> what he lent himself to. i mean this was a 23-year-old, 23-year passion project. >> that's right. >> and then after making this film and taking it to the first studio and then they say no, he goes to the other six studios and hear's the same thing. >> for people watching this who haven't seen the movie and don't know much about the tus kugee airmen, tell me why they're so important. >> they're so important because they represent african-american's contribution to the war efforts of world war ii. they did bomber escort over the skies of berlin. >> and they ultimately had their own bomber squadron. >> but the significance was until they went up, there had been no black u.s. military pilots. >> at all. >> exactly right. >> ultimately this led to the integration of the u.s. military. >> that's right. kicked off the civil rights movement what they accomplished. >> what was so good good the
tuskegee airmen, where as most white pilots would have three months of training before they would shift out to the middle of the flight. but the black pilots, they didn't have anyone who would take them so they had 2 1/2 years of training. so the moment they got into the air, they were aces. >> they shot down 100 german planes. >> that's right. >> mind you, they didn't go into the war thinking -- they didn't go into school thinking, i'm going to become a pilot. they went to school to become doctors or lawyers. they just happened to, for the sake of contributing to the country, decided to become pilots and happened to be marvelous -- >> let's watch another clip from this remarkable film. >> we count our victories by the bombers we get to their targets. by the husbands we return to their wives. by the fathers we get back to their children. what has not changed, what will never change, from the last plane to the last bullet to the
last minute to the last man we fight, we fight. >> yes, sir. >> it's "red tails." i pe everyone goes to watch this. it's important they do. does it shock you hollywood is still so antiquated? i would say even borderline racist in the way it has treated this movie so far? is it shocking? >> no, it's par for the course. anytime you're trying to change barriers, break barriers, you know, and break a fiduciary established means of trading money or saying who should receive money -- >> i guess in the case of this movie, an excuse to not take the risk. >> that's exactly right. >> an easy excuse is we can't sell a black movie. let's be honest. >> yes -- >> that's what they're basically saying. >> 'cause no matter what color you are, being american is cool. it really is cool. our history, these boys explain how something like a barack
obama, president barack obama, can happen. a lot of time -- we were saying this earlier -- >> actually, i'll tell you what, hold that very thought, let's have a quick break and come back and talk about barack obama. his anointment as president of this country should have been an incredible transformation move. [ mujahid ] there was a little bit of trepidation, not quite knowing what the next phase was going to be, you know, because you been, you know, this is what you had been doing. you know, working, working, working, working, working, working. and now you're talking about, well you know, i won't be, and i get the chance to spend more time with my wife and my kids. it's my world. that's my world. ♪ ♪ tell me what you really mean ♪ do you know what you want?
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♪ trying to get rich ♪ i'm trying to have things but it's hard for a pimp ♪ >> show me the money. >> you've got to go. >> show me the money. >> i need to feel you, jerry. >> show me the money! >> jerry, you better yell. >> show me the money! >> that's cuba gooding jr. delivering one of my favorite movie lines ever. one i scream at my own agent every night. he rightly won an oscar. and terrence howard, nominated for the 2005 film "hustle and flow." we talked about this ground-breaking movie you made shouldn't really be ground-breaking. three years after president obama is elected, you'll still having to have a battle like this in hollywood? >> absolutely. >> you think since obama broke the ground that the world would be wide open. but once the ground is broken,
you still have to plow that land. and that's what george lucas is doing right now. he's plowing that land. some of those rocks are still there. you've got to break them down. >> that's right. >> but the film stands for itself. >> that's right. >> i asked a lot of guests this when they come. do you believe since obama was elected, america has become more or less racist? >> i hope -- you know, i'm an optimist so i think less racist. if you think about it, when i grew up, i didn't know there were tuskegee airmen. i didn't know there were these stories of black accomplishment in america. yeah, it would look like it's just -- you know you have "the color purple." you have "glory." what other black stories are you being told on a grand scale? this is a first of its kind. this is an african-american action film that tells about black heroes in history. i think that to me is why this film is so healing for our foreign brand. >> i don't think it's become more of a racist or less of a racist. i think now it's shown itself. before, you didn't have to deal
with -- >> that's my sense, is it actually -- it just brought it back to the fore. the race issues become more more wide spread, much more public, because there's a black president. that in itself may not be a bad thing. >> right, right. >> now you can deal with it. >> now it can be properly debated. how do you think barack obama's been doing as president? >> you know -- >> it's a hard job. he was put in the white house with the economy falling apart and a bunch of troops over there fighting a losing battle. and he said, i'm going to bring them home. he did, all right. he's bringing them home. he's doing, you know, and i'm not -- to me and politics, it's, like, i'm an actor first so i'm not taking any sides -- >> -- he's been forced to make so many compromises. and still because of trying to clean up the mess that was before him, he hasn't been in a position to do the things he had set forth in his campaign. now if he got another
opportunity, perhaps he'll be able to handle that. but with all the things these new bills that's been passed, i mean, he even has me wondering, and i've been the biggest barack obama supporter from the start, but i know his heart is in the right place. but, my god, how do you deal with all of the pressures coming from every possible place? >> it's almost an impossible job. i don't know why anyone would want to be president. he hasn't dealt i don't think with the republicans in a strong enough way. he hasn't dealt with getting stuff done. he hasn't really had his own mission statement and driven it through. i expect if he does win the election, you'll see a different barack obama. >> absolutely. you can't deny the accomplishments. >> i believe where his heart is at but, you know, when you're dealing with a bipartisan world, it's not even just america in itself, it's not even the government, you're dealing with a bipartisan world, where
everyone seems to be pulling at each other. i think we all need to either stand behind him or grab somebody and stand behind them. we need to do it as a hole -- >> doesn't the movie you've made here doesn't that absolutely and, indeed, the making of this movie, doesn't that show you that you have to have courage? >> right. >> you have to have an instinct for taking a big gamble and for pushing against that kind of partisan view, doesn't it? >> what you just said. the movie starts the healing process, absolutely. that's why you should all go see it. >> it's been fascinating. terrific movie. "red tails." opens in theaters on friday, january 20th. please go and see it. it's an important film. thank you both very much. it's been a real pleasure. coming up, jimmy fallon here to sing about, of all people, tim tebow as david bowie.
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you feel this surging power. >> an energy. >> i love any come from behind thing. it's a guy -- he won't win. and how do you not root for that guy. >> what about bowie and you? ? we were fooling around, and he said, i have a david bowie impression. it's all about the writing. the writers said, how about te-bowie. i said, why don't we do fat bowie. they were like, tim tebowie.
i was like, we should do te-bowie. we started writing. we did kind of like a space oddity to honor tim tebow. >> i didn't see t but everyone is talking about it. you sound more like bowie than bowie does. do you know bowie? >> i met him years ago at a charity event, and he's a very, very funny guy. we were e-mail buddies for a while. >> you were e-mail buddies with david bowie? >> for like a week or something. >> one e-mail is enough. what did you say to each other? give me an example in. >> like what are you watching? >> i'm watching tv, what are you watching? comedy central, and he'd say, i'll put it on. >> you're in new york, jimmy fallon at your place, he's at his, and you're saying, what are you watching on tv? >> yeah, then we put on the same show that each other were
watching and making fun of whatever the other was watching and sending jokes. >> do you have his e-mail address? >> i think i lost it. i changed my phone so many times. >> he's the greatest guy. how cool is david bowie? >> 65 years old, david bowie. >> is that right. >> he can finally get a free bus pass in london. he's the one guy, if you look alt of the rock stars, he's the one guy who has remained ice cool. to his brand, it's as cool today as it was in the '70s. >> some kids don't even know who david bowie is now, and when they hear him, they go, oh, yeah. >> he knew when to stop performing. ziggy stardust in the '70s and all of the reinventions he went through. he was saying around 2000, he last performed. >> the vision tour, yeah. >> it's to give up when they want you back on the stage. >> you have to get off the stage if people want you back on stage. right now, he could have a giant
comeback. i think he's working on a book. he's got to be working on something. >> can i e-mail you? >> no. really? i can't e-mail you? >> you can go through my publicist. by the way, there's a guy on saturday night live, a great, great cast member. taryn killm. he does an impression of you. it hasn't been on air yet, but get ready. >> is he going to kill it? >> liars going to kill it. you're going to love it. >> can you do it. >> i don't want to take his impression. >> what would you do? >> his impression. >> what are my weaknesses? >> it's great. you're really going to like it. it's going to be giant on "saturday night live." >> i'm not going to like it. everybody else is going to like it. >> if you think they're going to like it, we don't. we hate it. >> everybody who works for you will love it, your director will love it. >> why would i not --
>> you have to. you're going to freak out. i like it. andy san brg did me on the show, and i liked it. >> you're a funny guy. you're self-mocking. >> you're going to like it. it's a home run. would you like me -- >> i want to talk to you about another thing, taking your show on the road. >> it's a big deal for us. our show is from new york city, live in new york city, but we're going to indianapolis for the super bowl. february 3rd, 4th, and 5th. wednesday, thursday, and friday, and super bowl sunday after the super bowl, a live show. >> it's a dream for you, and be honest, if tebow drives denver to the super bowl and this song has taken off, you're thinking madonna, fallen. you are, aren't you? >> madonna should open for me. >> te-bowie and madonna. she's your warmup, and then te-bowie. >> right now, the word on the
street is it's gone viral. people like the song. yeah, it's tebow beats the patriots, highly unlikely. >> it's gone viral. but by appearing on this show, it's about to go global. take it away. >> here row go. >> tim tebow as david bowie. ♪ didn't tebow to jesus christ. tim tebow to jesus christ ♪ ♪ can't win by myself but with your help i might ♪ ♪ tim tebow to jesus christ
commencing fourth down hut hut hike ♪ ♪ snap the football and may god's love be with me ♪ ♪ this is jesus christ to tim tebow please leave me alone ♪ ♪ don't you know my day of rest is sunday ♪ ♪ and i'm sick of watching all these broncos games ♪ ♪ i hear that you hear new england next week ♪ ♪ dude, you're on your own ♪ brady is too good and i got better things to do ♪
♪ so i pass 316 yards there's still two games to go ♪ ♪ if i want to make it to the super bowl and show everyone on earth how to tebow ♪ ♪ tim tebow to jesus christ ♪ the broncos won we're still alive come on everyone tebow come on everyone tebow ♪ ♪ come on everyone tebow come on everyone tebow ♪ >> thank you. thank you. emotional. >> it's emotional. it really is. >> always fun to come on. you're the greatest. >> jimmy, thank you. that was terrific. thank you so much. it's going to be huge. >> very good,