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more than a year ago egypt filled cairo's tahrir square and told hosni mubarak time to give up power. now they are saying the same thing to the military. but will the army listen? you're looking at live pictures from tahrir square. thousands of people have been there four days and nights. election results from last week's presidential runoff due thursday. now there's speculation they may come out tomorrow. two rivals each claiming victory. u.s. has a warning for americans. stay out of kenya's coastal city of mombasa. u.s. embassy nairobi says there's an eminent threat of terror attack in the destination. it is suspending all travel and ordering all u.s. personnel to get out. back in the u.s. floodwaters are receding in duluth, minnesota. people are finally getting a look at the true scope of the damage. "the new york times" is reporting the worst flooding in the city's history, caused more than $100 million in damage.
it's left squawks buckled and roads washed out. no one was killed, incredibly in minnesota, but flooding is blamed for three deaths in neighboring wisconsin. in california the people who wanted to tack on an extra dollar to a pack of cigarettes have given up their feets. opponents of proposition nine conceded defeat after weeks of voting on ballots could erase the electoral deficit. it could erase $60 million for smoking prevention and research. big tobacco and anti-tax groups put a big fight to defeat the measure. late last night, we got a guilty verdict in the jerry sandusky case. in fact, 45 guilty verdicts. the jury finding sandusky guilty on 45 of the 48 counts all related to the sexual abuse of 10 young boys. the judge immediately revoked bail and ordered the arrest of sandusky. joining me now from the courthouse in bellefonte, pennsylvania, is cnn national
correspondent susan candiotti. susan, good morning. tell us what is next for jerry sandusky. >> first of all, he had his first mug shot taken as a convicted man wearing a jail orange jumpsuit with no smile on his face. immediately his attorneys will start to prepare his appeal. jerry sandusky, the next step for him in this legal process, is the sentencing phase. in the meantime in jail, he is being held in protective custody, which means at minimum he is kept away from other inmates there and may even be put at some point, if he isn't already, under a suicide watch. we'll have to see. still working on that information. but that would not be surprising given the circumstances here. and then the prosecution will also be preparing for the sentencing phase during which victims in this case will have the opportunity to face jerry sandusky before he is sentenced to tell him what he did to them
and what impact it has had on their lives or a statement could be read on their behalf. and of course, character witnesses could also come up and speak on behalf of jerry sandusky, including members of his family. randi. >> susan, this all unfolded late last night. for the folks just waking up, give us an idea, take us back inside the courtroom as those verdicts were read. >> well, his attorney describes seeing jerry sandusky with tears in his eyes. there was a lot of emotion in the courtroom as he stood and heard guilty after guilty after guilty verdict. some jurors were also seen to be crying as well. and as well, one of the victims was in the courtroom, victim number six. this is the young man who started off the entire investigation when his mom came to police in 2008. that really kicked things off and led to where we are now. the mother said there was no joy in this courtroom, because she
said we all lose as a result of what happened here, randi. >> susan, are the jurors talking? have they made any comment at all? >> well, the jurors were offered an opportunity to speak last night. the judge said we have a camera set up here after this verdict is over. they chose not to take advantage of that last night. as this day goes on, i am sure we will be hearing from jurors in this case about the process that they went through and what they were thinking, what they were going through, and what really made the most impact for them during this case. >> i want to ask you about matt sandusky. that is jerry's youngest adopted son. also alleging abuse. he didn't testify but he had said he was willing to. what kind of impact do you think that might have had? >> well, certainly we know now that the defense attorney himself said he only found out about matt sandusky offering to testify for the prosecutors last
week. and that changed the complexion of what they were going to do because they said they really wanted to put jerry sandusky on the stand. he wanted to testify. but they knew they would be in big trouble. because if he did, the government, the prosecutors could then put his son on the stand, and that would have been devastating -- just as devastating for the defense as well, so they had to pull back. that is one impact. of course we know now his allegation, his son's allegations, will be investigated by authorities. >> certainly will be. susan candiotti, thank you very much. we've got much more ahead on the sandusky case. in around 25 minutes or so, we'll take a closer look at the legal aspects of the case and find out if the defense has any grounds for an appeal which they say they have planned. be sure to stay with us on that. also on tap, what do you know about the affordable care act, also known as obama care. that's the law the supreme court is considering right now. we'll debunk some of the common
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law, also known as patient protection and affordable care act. the court will either let the law stand or parts of it stand or maybe even strike it down all together. we are focusing on health care and this decision this morning. joining me to talk about the myths and misconceptions of the law is professor lawrence jack obstacles, author of the book "health care reform in politics what everyone needs to know." larry, good to see you. good morning. i want you to listen to some of the things we've heard first and then talk to you about it. >> i believe that you have to buy it but if you can't afford it, it's automatically given to you. >> i believe you do have a couple of years, that you do need to shop around within your state markets to get insurance. there are exemptions, though, for religious organizations so not everybody has to buy insurance. >> a lot of folks, larry, talking about this individual mandate. that gets all the attention. tell us exactly a little more
about what it is. will it truly force everyone to get insurance? >> the whole idea of the individual mandate is very simple, which is to encourage as many people in our communities to sign up for health insurance so they don't wait until they get sick. we have a lot of people free riding, thinking, hey, i'm healthy. i don't need insurance. something awful happens, they get in a car insurance, become ill. then they want care. what that's doing is driving up everybody's premiums. the mandate is meant to get everybody in so they are paying their fair share. here is the kicker, it's only going to affect about one out of twenty americans. when you look at the actual requirement to get insurance, because of the subsidies and other things, it's probably only going to affect two out of 200 americans. a very small number of people will be affected by the mandate despite the political brouhaha.
>> that what gets the attention. in terms of environment, if somebody doesn't buy insurance, if the mandate goes through and isn't overturned, is there any type of enforcement? like perhaps the irs, can they do anything? >> you know, this is one of the real myths about the mandate. the law actually says the irs cannot collect what is a pretty small penalty, a few hundred dollars. it tells the irs you can't put a lien on people's houses, you can't force them to pay that. it's meant to be kind of a little bit of an effort to encourage people to get insurance, but it is not truly enforceable. >> so how does the mandate really stack up? is it an important part of the overall law? >> a lot of people have said this. in fact, the insurance companies, which at the end of the day came out against passing the health reform, they were for it for most of the 2009-2010
bloodbath because they liked the mandate. get everybody in, then we can offer a quality insurance package and make money. the insurance companies came out against health insurance reform once the mandate penalty got smaller and smaller and was not enforceable. look, people are getting subsidies and they are giving access to health insurance, we expect the vast number of americans to say, hey, that's a good deal. we'll sign up. >> let's talk about medicare now. a lot of people are certainly worried about cuts and perhaps loss of benefits. they think if there are cuts, it will cost them more. what is the real issue here? >> about a quarter of medicare beneficiaries who are on a program called medicare advantage, which allows private insurance companies to offer coverage to medicare folks. there has been a cut in their reimbursement. we were paying the private insurance companies a bit more than 10% more to get them to
just play in the game. that was costing a lot of money. so that part has been scaled back. some of the folks in medicare advantage are feeling the crunch there. but look, there's a lot in here for seniors. to begin with the prescription drug benefit is now being expanded already. seniors can get $250 rebate. this is the so-called doughnut hole seniors know about. that's going to be filled in over the next several years. that's a benefit. one of the unspoken benefits in the health care reform are the first national steps to try to get a handle on the awful abuse of seniors in nursing homes and by family members. there's real steps being taken here to get a handle on that abuse of seniors. >> a lot to chew on, a lot to make sense of there. larry jacobs, thank you so much. nice to see you. >> good to see you. next hour i'll be talking with real people on both sides
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a life sentence. three victims have still not been identified. in colorado more people are evacuating their homes to escape a raging wildfire. nearly 200 houses have gone up in flames since the high park fire started. the wildfire burned about 70,000 acres near ft. collins. it's less than 50% contained. in petaluma, california, the world's ugliest dog has finally been crowned. do you think he's ugly? i don't know. muggily is his name. he won $1,000 and year's worth of doggie treats. he came all the way from britain to beat 28 other dogs. judges say they critique dogs based on their natural ugliness. i see beauty. bullied, beaten, left blind in one eye, now a new york middle school student is suing for millions. who he wants to pay for his abuse when he joins me live in just moments he'll tell us.
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lynne lin lin santa lin sanity lynn sanity lin sanity. imagine this. you send your child to school and he comes back home badly beaten and blind in one eye. that's exactly what happened to brooklyn middle school student. a group of boys jumped him in the school cafeteria this month. now he is suing the city for $16 million. he and his mother rose join me with their lawyer sanford reubenstein. good morning to all of you. thank you for joining us this morning.
cardin, let me ask you first, how are you doing? i understand you've had a couple of surgeries so far. >> yes, i'm not doing very good. i'm completely blind in my right eye and i do want to see through it. i've been having lots of headaches and it's really been hurting me. >> what's next for you? do you expect to have more surgeries? >> my mother can answer it. >> yes. the 28th, in a week, going to have two big surgeries in one day. >> rose, when will you know if your son can get his vision back? >> that we don't know. >> kardin -- >> they don't tell us anything about that. they just try and fix the eyes and what they can do. >> kardin, do you plan to go back to school at this point? >> no. >> how come? >> wait. repeat the question? >> do you plan to go back to
that same school? >> i don't plan to. >> kardin. let me answer that. kardin already graduated the 21st of this month, like two days ago. he's going to high school. >> okay. >> hopefully he can see in the eyes and then people will not make fun of him. >> kardin, if you can, tell me briefly about what happened when you were jumped. tell me about this attack. >> i think at this point, i'd like to do that for you. >> okay. >> basically, he was in the cafeteria, having breakfast. students started to yell racial -- not racial, gay slurs. they then, one of the students, held his hands back while another one started to beat him. this was on the cafeteria table. he was being beaten there. he was able to get away from the kid holding him down to run to a wall where he was continued to be beaten by the other student
who had been beating him. the student holding him down came to the wall and started punching him also. as a result of this, he has suffered the loss of sight in one eye, which we hope might be reversed with a cornea transplant but we don't know. the fact of the matter is, he very well could be the rest of his life without sight in one eye. >> so sanford, did he know these boys? >> he had seen them around school. he didn't particularly know them at the time as friends. he had complained before. his parents complained at two prior occasions at the school with regard to other bullying situations that had occurred. so the school was on notice, the teachers, the school aides who at the cafeteria were there. too much time went by before this fight was broken up and this terrible injury occurred. >> rose, if that's the case, did you even feel safe sending your son to this school? >> excuse me?
>> did you feel safe sending your son to this school? >> yes, because when you have your kids, the right way, you think you send your kids to school to be safe, like the same at home. when you're in this country they want your kids to do the right way. you show them to do things for them not to be in trouble. but what happened, if he's at home, you tell them what to do when they are in the street. if you send them to school, you don't send them to school to get hurt. even when you're at home, if you do something to your kids, they ask them questions like if you see any mark on them, teacher ask question, then they will take you to court or to jail. but to send your kids to school
and to get beat up and lose his eyesight, i don't think so that's the right thing for somebody to do. >> sanford, we reached out to roy h.mann junior high school. they say they implemented programs for bull yipg, two-day training program called respect for all, where apparently 5,000 teachers and counselors and partner coordinators and staff members have participated. is this true or are those programs simply ineffective. >> look, the fact of the mother is they are not doing enough. i've had other people contact me since this case has been public about incidents that occurred at this school. other parents have talked to rose, his mother, about incidents that occurred. this is a serious problem at this school that has to be addressed so this doesn't continue to happen to kids who go to school expecting to have a safe environment but come home sightless in one eye. >> sanford reubenstein, thank you very much.
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after 20 hours of deliberation former assistant football coach jerry sandusky has been found guilty of 45 of 48 counts of sexually abusing boys over a 40-year period. the judge placed him under arrest. i'm glad you're with us this morning, holly, let me start with you. was there a moment, do you think, in that courtroom that swayed the jury? >> i think it was probably cumulative, randi. by that i mean one after another after another of these young men got up and started telling these painful stories. some of that testimony was graphic when they talk about bloody underwear and some of the things that were done to them, i think when the jury heard all these facts, you've got to picture. they are young men testifying now, in their 20s, but think
about the stage the prosecution set for them. when these horrible things happened, they were 8 years old, 9 years old, 10 years old. i think as the jury is listening and picturing a little boy being victimized in that way and it's one after another after another, i think it's that cumulative effect of the horrors committed upon a child. >> paul, let me turn to you now. this is an awfully quick trial compared to what we're seeing, then a quick deliberations, just 21 hours. what do you think that tells us? >> it's one of the fastest trials i've seen, i'm betting one of the fastest serious trials in american history. a case like this would have taken months to try. remember the o.j. simpson case. i think the impact it had was the jury didn't get numbed to these allegations of sexual abuse. a lot of times when you have multiple victim cases and you hear one after another, it gets so numbing it didn't resonate
with you anymore. prosecutors moved their case along. they told the story in a compelling way and they convinced the jury. just looking back on the moment i thought, by the way, was the biggest moment in the case was the janitor testimony. i don't know if you remember that. one janitor came and said he had seen jerry sandusky doing something horrible to a little boy. he was a war veteran and he said he would never forget it. that janitor now has alzheimer's and his testimony came in through another janitor. i think it was independent, no financial motive. it corroborated what all of the other victims said. >> let me talk about this appeal that defense holly says they plan. if you win on one appeal issue, everything falls. all we have to do is convince an appellate court one of the issues we raise is worthy of a reversal. what kind of chance do you think they have on appeal? >> i think it's a very slim chance, randi.
on appeal what you have to convince the appellate court is that the trial judge did something wrong. this isn't a matter of arguing insufficiency of evidence, we don't like the verdict, have you to point to something the judge did that was wrong. he either gave a jury charge that was improper, he allowed improper evidence in. we don't have any evidence. these are long delayed outcries, old crimes by the time they are tried. there's no dna. there can't be a ruling that said you shouldn't have let that evidence in. what they are going to have to look at is the credibility of witnesses. an appellate court is not going to disturb that. that is a problem for the jury. credibility is something the jury and the jury alone decides. given the posity of physical evidence and the ruling, i don't see it coming back, i really don't of i think it's a clean trial and a done deal. >> paul, do you think it would have made a difference if sandusky had taken the stand? >> well, in retrospect, he would
have nothing to lose. he lost it all. so you can always look back in time and say, listen, it can't be any worse than it is now. they convicted him of pretty much everything. he probably should have taken the stand, because the case was going in so badly, his only hope was for him to be likable and have the jury believe him. you can't second-guess that his own son was going to come in and testify against him if he did. i understand why he didn't. >> i'm glad you brought that up, paul. could there be additional charges if we have one of his six adopted sons, matt sandusky, saying he was also sexually abused and willing to testify? >> i always thought, randi, there was a couple of reasons he opted not to testify. one was that his son would come in against him. secondly, there are other victims out there who have testified in front of the grand jury who are not part of this indictment. if he took the witness stand and said something like i've never
harmed a child, never touched a child, that would have opened the door for the prosecutor to ask about uncharged incidents as well. so there was grave danger for him taking the witness stand. when the son came forward and indicated he would testify against him, that just really was the straw that broke the camel's back. >> the pain for this community, holly, is nowhere near over. you have the two penn state officials facing charges for not taking action. these go back to 1998. there's that and the civil case, these men could now bring against the university and sandusky. >> absolutely. if some of the more recent victims still fall within that statute of limitations, yes, i suspect we're going to see some civil suits filed. i think we might even see some legislation. we've seen some of the bigger cases over the past couple of years where in the casey anthony verdict, for instance, a lot of people didn't agree with the verdict. but the good that came outfit is
is legislation and enacted new laws. if you have a child, a care taker and don't report the child missing in 48 hours, that's a felony. i think we'll see administrative and policy and procedure cases. if someone comes to you and says something as horrific as mike mcquartm mcqueary and the janitor said, i saw him raping a child on your cavern us and they did nothing and sit on it. a lot of what they could be charged with is past criminal statute of limitations. i think we'll see a lot of policy and procedure change. we'll see a change in criminal law. to be able to hold these people responsible. every child for victimized after that was reported in 2002 is on their head, randi. it's on their head. >> no question about it. that certainly could have been stopped. thank you very much. nice to see you both. >> nice being with you, randi. a storm is brewing in the
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each week our travel insider takes you along as we vacation, go to a restaurant or anything else in our time off. this week kyra phillips turn. she visited donny and marie in vegas. >> the weirdest interview i've ever had in my life. go ahead. >> we'll just talk to each other. >> what's weird. >> you're the cameraman and interviewer. >> i'm not sure whether to talk
to your eye or the lens. >> what question would you like to ask us, dear. >> four seconds. >> i'm going to ask you a really serious question. why should people come and see you in vegas? >> it's the best show in vegas. i'm not making this up. we were just voted best show in vegas and best performers and best vocalist. >> me, not her. >> actually donny and marie are both amazing. not only does the vegas show bring back all our favorites like donny's yo-yo and "dancing with the stars" moves but marie actually sings opera, dedicating the song to her son who passed. i'll tell you what, it sends chills up your spine. donny and marie are charming, entertaining and funny as ever. what exactly does it take to have number one records for 50 years and look so good. >> lots of plastic surgery.
okay. you're not going to get a serious answer from me. try. >> let me tell you, we feel so blessed. to be able to still be performing. this fall will be our 50th year of performing. >> 50 years. >> which is amazing since i'm 29. it's miraculous. we feel so blessed and so fortunate. we go on stage every night. we see multiple generations. kids from three to 80 and all the young ones are coming to see me. >> whatever. you want a serious answer? >> give me a serious answer. >> we work our butts off. we work hard. >> yes, they do. and they are tons of fun. go see them. the donny and marie show. the flamingo hotel, las vegas, a little bit country, a little bit rock and roll, a little bit
for you. the latest report shows this area of weather is likely to become a tropical storm in the next few hours. it's bringing substantial rain off the shore of florida. not quit hitting the coast yet. it's coming. we are expecting this to be a rainmaker along the gulf coast. where is it right now? it's very loosely organized. a noaa buoy offshore. it will see if we have winds strong enough to give usa name for the storm. this will likely be debby before the day is over. we're monitoring it for you. everyone along the gulf coast needs to be aware of this system because the computer models are so widespread. look at the divergence, randi. some taking it towards texas, others the gulf coast, into louisiana and more headed towards florida. so a widespread area of
divergence. we'll be monitoring for you and have more data as the morning goes through. >> bonnie schneider, thank you for the update. >> sure. >> the hunt is on for a bear that is attacking people in arizona. >> we kind of scared them off. we had an opportunity to take them out. you're in the minute of the moment. it's so scary. it's like you don't know what's going on. >> he shows where he was attacked. authorities believe it was the same animal that attacked a woman three weeks ago based on the bite mark measurements game officers believe the bear is a large adult male. east of arizona, 90 miles north of phoenix. they have set tracks all around town. in california, a 16-year-old girl got the surprise of her life during an oakland a's game. allie threw the first pitch. then her dad, an army specialist in afghanistan wished her a happy birthday bringing her to tears in that video. she wasn't expecting her dad to
then walk out with the team. she started crying more tears of joy. scott pearce said he had been planning the surprise for six months. he wasn't supposed to be back from afghanistan until october. cartels are killing people by the thousands in mexico. in a few minutes we'll talk to a famemaker who talk-- a filmmake for the sentencing jerry sandusky will have to wait a while. the latest on the case.
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and it's bringing the future forward. the mexican drug cartels run a big business. take a look at these numbers. the government estimates they can sell up to $29 billion in a year. that's billion with a b. king pins will do anything to make sure that money continues to roll in. mexican government estimates they killed 47,000 people since 2006. for one, mexican government estimates they spend a million a year paying off police officers. if they can't buy them off, well, they kill them. that brings me to my next guest
bernardo ruis. bernardo, thank you for joining us this morning. great to have you on the program. you followed a veteran reporter for two years. with him day in and day out as he uncovered these stories about the cartels. tell me what you learned from him. >> one of the things i learned is how dedicated this specific group of journalists has been. the journalist i profile in the film writes for a legendary weekly based out of tijuana. although they are not the only aggressive investigative reporting unit in northern mexico, they are certainly one of the few. they are very outspoken news organization. they have paid a heavy price for what they do. >> why do you think they continue to do it? did you ask them this? it's so -- it's deadly. >> it certainly is deadly in the
cases. he's lost three of his colleagues, including a very close friend, a 29-year-old journalist gunned down in front of the steps of his newspaper. i think it goes to a larger commitment and a hope that by getting information out there and getting information out into the international community that it will force a chance within mexico. obviously since december 2006, there's been a level of violence that's horrific. i saw the number you posted, close to 50,000, which is the official number. just a few weeks ago a well regarded newsweekly put that number closer to 88,000. somewhere between 50,000 and 88,000, we're talking about those are recorded homicides. >> you show in the documentary that cartels really have police in their pockets, that regular people really have nowhere to turn. so have journalists basically become their only source for justice? is that part of why you made the
documentary, to show that? >> i think that's a very good question. unfortunately that is the case in many regions where police departments, state police departments, municipal police departments have been corrupted. we know that in the last six years, at least 48 journalists or media workers have been murdered or disappeared. when i finished my film in january 2012, that number was at 40. that means in the last six months we've seen the murders of at least eight journalists. unfortunately the worst of that violence in the state of convenievena cruz, a port state, murdered in gruesome way, their bodies found in garbage bags in the last two months. >> as a journalist myself, it's hard for me to imagine going to work and wondering if i would come home. why are the cartels targeting the journalists? >> we're talking about organized crime figures used to operating
with impunity and anonymity. anything that threatens their profits is going to be a reason to attack a journalist. so typically what i saw and what you see in the film, in the history of the film, any time you publish the names and the faces of organized crime figures, any time you show the links between organized crime and local politicians or corrupt politicians, that's when organized crime fights back and that's when journalists are attacked or killed. >> they are killing them to silence their stories and silence them as well. it's a fascinating documentary. i definitely recommend it. bernardo, thank you very much. >> thank you for having me. jerry sandusky locked up. the former football coach facing life in prison now that a jury has found him guilty. we'll talk to you a little bit more about the verdict. plus health care in focus this morning of what's the real effect of the supreme court's ruling this week on obama care.
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good morning, everyone. i'm randi kaye. it is 9:00 on the east coast, 6:00 a.m. on the west. thanks for waking up with us. the jury returned guilty verdicts of jerry sandusky, 45 of 48. aftds his bail was revoked and he was led away in handcuffs. he's in protective custody away from other inmates. sentencing for sandusky is expected in about 90 days. the felony convictions could land him in prison for the rest of his life. cnn national correspondent susan candiotti is live in bellefonte, pennsylvania, this morning. susan, good morning to you. we know the verdict. but talk to me a little bit about the reaction after that verdict outside the courtroom. >> reporter: you know, outside the courthouse, the area where i'm standing was filled with people from this community who had come out here to hear and
see what happened. most of them were cheering. i talked with one woman in the crowd who said, i do not wish things -- bad things on people, but jerry sandusky did very bad things. you also had a lot of people out here who were victim advocates. they see this verdict as not only a vindication for victims of sex abuse but also an opportunity to encourage others who may also be victims not to feel ashamed and come forward and tell their stories, too. randi. >> what about these three not guilty verdicts. he was convicted on 45 of the 48. >> reporter: that's right. quite a commanding decision by the part of this jury. the three involved one involving an incident that mike mcqueary witnessed involving jerry sandusky in the shower with a little boy. while they found the defendant not guilty of one felony count, they did find him guilty of
another felony count in that case. some of the others were also downgraded to a misdemeanor. but i think what this indicates is how carefully this jury went down the list of charges. 48 of them they had to consider, randi, and very carefully made their decision. >> and matt sandusky, who is jerry's youngest adopted son, he also alleged abuse, but he didn't testify, though he said he was willing to. do you think that still had an impact? >> i think it did publicly until this time. matt sandusky, that adopted child, had stood behind his father, but then he came forward and talked to prosecutors and said he wanted to testify for them. they kept him in their back pocket to use as a rebuttal witness if jerry sandusky took the stand. the defense found out that matt sandusky was going to be a witness for the prosecution. so that is a key reason why they
didn't put jerry sandusky on the stand, though he wanted to tell his side of the story. but that could have been a very devastating follow-up if prosecutors had put his own son on the stand to a little that he, too, had been abused. >> yeah, certainly more stories of abuse after listening to all of those victims as well. susan candiotti, thank you very much. so the question is what was it like inside the courtroom. earlier i talked with "in session's" jean casarez about what she saw as those verdicts were read. >> but i think the emotion that caught me was an empty bench that was in the courtroom until almost the very last minute and three women sat on that bench. i didn't recognize them. then all of a sudden, i looked, and there was victim number six, who had come and sat in the middle of those women. that is the accuser from 1998, the very first young man that stepped forward because his
mother called the school and authorities. he held the hand of his mother, who was the woman who was in the seat before him so tightly. and he was -- through the verdict. when the counts were read, she sobbed in silence and his eyes just filled with tears. he was the lone victim in that courtroom last night but so emotionally affected. >> part of my conversation there with "in session's" jean casarez. we'll have much more on this case and tell you what's ahead for jerry sandusky in our next hour. in philadelphia, prosecutors calling a verdict this in a child sexual abuse there historic. for the first time prosecutors brought charges against church leaders for allegedly covering up abuse by priests. monday senior lane found guilty. his attorney called it a miscarriage of justice, faces seven years in prison.
in egypt where they are facing an historic announcement as thousands continue to fill tahrir square in cairo. the election commission will finally announce tomorrow who will be egypt's first freely elected president. the results of last weekend's presidential runoff were supposed to come out thursday but they were delayed, fears from a power grab of military rulers vying for the job, ousted hosni mubarak, final prime minister. in u.s. general motors recalling one of its best selling small cars. more than 400,000 chevy cruz's recalled because of a risk of engine fires. recalls all in the u.s. since 2010. they want to modify an engine shield that could create a fire hazard. george washington's copy of the constitution fetched $9.8 million at auction. that's more than three times the expected price. washington wrote notes on the copy. it also comes with a draft of
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putting the affordable care act or obama care in focus. we'll talk with americans about what they hope the supreme court will say next week and why. they all come from different backgrounds with different stories and represent the millions of people who will be affected by next week's ruling. in tampa, florida with us this morning is christina turner. she's a 45-year-old health insurance underwriter. here in atlanta is katherine wells who is self-employed. katherine, good morning. >> good morning. >> let me start with you on this one. you stand to benefit from the affordable care act if it's upheld. you're making about $19,000 a year, unable to afford health insurance. why don't you qualify for medicaid? >> according to what i've found out, you have to either have a dependent child or be disabled in order to qualify for medicaid. just being low income is not sufficient. >> and you had a recent trip to
the er. what happened and how did you end up paying for that. >> basically i was lifting a really heavy object and i ended up pulling a muscle in my chest. and so i didn't realize at the time, however. so i was having some chest pains and went to the emergency room. they ran some tests for a couple of hours and sent me home basically saying we didn't find anything. and i expect add bill of $1,000 or $2,000 that i could figure out somehow to pay. it ended up being $14,000 for a couple of hours of tests. >> how did you end up paying it? >> i had to go through a very lengthy financial aid process with the hospital. >> you used to have insurance? >> i've had insurance off and on over the years. it's been very difficult to obtain each time as far as
pre-existing conditions, which ones to be honest about and how honest to be about them. when i've obtained it, the rates have gone up extremely fast, every six months to a year after i obtained it. if i obtained it at $100 a month, it will often go to $250 a month within a year or two. >> let me bring in christina now, christina turner. you were denied -- let me make sure you have the story right, denied insurance because of what the insurance company argued was a pre-existing condition. that condition was one, in fact, you didn't v the irony is you worked for an insurance brokerage at the time. what happened? why were you denied? >> well, actually to clarify, i'm a health insurance agent, so i represent -- at the time i represented many, many different companies. and i was determined a pre-existing condition after i endured a drug facilitated rape in 2001. then i found myself without insurance. as a health insurance agent,
i've never been uninsured. i immediately tried to get insurance again. i'm an independent contractor, so i have to get individual coverage. so i contacted every company that i knew, and i knew them all, trust me, and i went to all of them. i was now determined a pre-existing condition because of the therapy that i was in, which i needed because i met strangers on a daily basis to sell insurance. i didn't leave my house for three months, i needed that therapy and i was on medication as well, antidepressants to help me get over my rape to get me back out there to do my job. all the insurance companies that i contacted said the same thing. they said, because you're in therapy, we consider that a mental nervous condition, because you're on medication, we won't even consider you for at least a year. and to add insult to injury they wanted me, depending on the insurance company i talked to,
wanted me to go two to three years of negative hiv tests before they considered me. not only was i a victim of rape, i was a victim of the system and the system was my livelihood. it was a triple whammy. it was horrible. >> you do have insurance, how did you end up getting it? >> i got married three years later. three years after that -- i went almost four years without insurance, my husband stopped being self-employed because we couldn't obtain it and went to work for a large group. he a window of 60 days as a new hire and guaranteed issue basis to add dependents. that was the only way i was able to obtain it. >> so you probably don't think you would have insurance if you weren't married? >> absolutely. i would not have had it. that's why obama care is so important. there needs to be awareness that if this is overturned, this will and can happen to people. it's just not a political issue to me. it's about americans all being
able to have the opportunity to obtain insurance. i'd like to add that i compared the obama care plans to mine. not only is it better coverage than i currently have, but it is a lower rate. so it's not like, you know, you get a plan and it's an astronomical rate. the only opportunity i had at the time was florida state high-risk pool. that rate was the same cost as my rent. i had to choose between my rent. it was just -- go ahead. >> christine, keep it there for one second. katherine, i want to ask you both to stick around for a moment. i also want to introduce you to mark ivy. he thinks obama care is a bad idea and i'll ask him why he thinks it's a bad idea coming up. [ creaking ]
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one of the things that happens in making is we are gaining some control over the world we live in. this world is awfully complex, and it's hard sometimes to figure out what are the building blocks, you know, how do you get going, how do you get started? you can have impact today. you can do things today and encourage yourself to participate to build things and make things. we are focusing on health care this morning with the supreme court's decision on the health care reform act expected next week. mark ivy joins me now from
indianapolis, indiana. mark, good morning to you. i understand that you suffer from chronic cluster headaches, depression, and lung infection as well. you don't think the affordable care act or obama care as it's often called is a good idea. why is that? >> well, there are portions of the affirmca are effective and d be continued. however, with the individual mandate as well as some of the changes with medicare, those are the issues which i do take issue with. >> you currently have medicare, right? how would that change if the affordable care act is upheld. >> currently it's already started changing. for example, with my part d, they talk considerably about how the prescription program would be lower. however, my co-pays have written from $2 to $4, co-pays $14 to $16. >> you think they will continue
to go up. >> oh, yeah, 2013 we've been given a heads up our medicare premiums will increase. plus in 2014 they will be increasing. there's also medicare fraud fund, which the provides are going to have to give to, which will increase out of pocket cost. they are also cutting down on the amount that's going to be allowed for providers. which again, that means providers are going to pass it on to us, so it's going to be part of our out of pocket cost. >> is there a difference for your coverage, whether the law is partially upheld or fully upheld? >> on my coverage, it's not going to make as much of a difference as what it would for some people. however, i cannot see where the individual mandate, where that would be something which could be upheld by the supreme court. what has an effect on americans everywhere. people i know, their premiums have already risen in anticipation of this continuing to go through. >> so if you're not a fan of this obama care, what do you think might be an alternative,
say, for the mandated health coverage since so many people without coverage end up costing their neighbors and a lot of other people with coverage so much more? >> see, the biggest problem is we're trying to do a one size fits all. that doesn't work. it needs to be similar to what it is with the medicaid programs where most of the authority, most of the power, most of the decision making needs to go back to the state, because in each individual region, each individual state, there are certain conditions, certain diseases which are more prevalent in those areas than what they are in other parts of the country, and yet we can't make decisions that make individual citizens in a state. right now if this continues forward we've got one size fits all and it doesn't fit. >> the stage is yours this morning, so do you have a message for the justices at the court or maybe even mr. obama at the white house? >> well, the biggest thing of it is when it comes to the justices, i love the way our
checks and balances system works, whether we can take something like this, which has been made into a monster bill and dissect it and cut it and i hope that's what the justices do. >> mark i've y, we wish you well and thank you very much for your time this morning. >> thank you. >> next hour we'll focus on the politics of the health care decision and what it could mean in november's presidential election. the last ballots are counted to decide whether or not to increase the tax on a pack of cigarettes. one side has already given up the fight.
watch. he was taken into custody after a jury found him guilty on 45 of the 48 charges against him. all of those charges are related to ten young boys. at the top of the hour we'll be talking live to one of sandusky's attorneys. i'll ask about sandusky's decision and possible appeal. find out tomorrow who will be freely elected president. the country's election commission says it will finally announce results of last week's presidential runoff. you're looking at live pictures from tahrir square. thousands of supporters of rival candidates for egypt's top job have gathered there. they are demanding rulers give up power. in california proponents of proposition 29 have conceded
defeat. june 5th referendum would have add add tax to a pack of cigarettes. the last late arriving votes are still being counted. it appears effort of big tobacco and anti-tax groups to kill the tax has prevailed. floodwaters receding in duluth, minnesota. people are finally getting a look at the true scope of the damage. "new york times" reporting the worst in the city's history, costs more than $100 million in damage. it left sidewalks buckled, roads washed out. no one was killed in minnesota but floods blamed for three deaths in neighboring wisconsin. in california, a teenager girl got a surprise during the oakland game. she threw out the first pitch, then her dad from afghanistan wished her a happy birthday in a video. but she wasn't expecting her dad to walk out with the team. there he is right behind the players. she started crying tears of joy.
scott pearce says he's been planning the surprise for six months. he wasn't supposed to be back from afghanistan until october. how sweet. it has been the video of the week, and an outpouring of compassion. a grandmother who works as a school bus monitor bullied by school kids. they say horrible things and she tries to ignore them. i talked one-on-one with karen klein about her harrowing experience. hear from her in the next hour of cnn morning. we'll be back at the top of the hour. "your bottom line" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com what if i told you there could be a recession no matter who was sitting in the white house next year. what if i told you neither president obama nor governor romney can create a single extra job quickly. good morning, everyone.
i'm christine romans. what if i told you there's no one riding in on a white horse to save you on election day. our problems are global, structural and decades in the making. that presents a tremendous challenge for president obama. 59% say finance will be an important factor in the elections. president obama didn't break this economy but he hasn't fixed it fully either. there can be no doubt, the recovery is ailing here. this is what the economy looks like since the president took office three and a half years ago. this is economic growth. gdp growth below 2% here. that means our economy is not growing fast enough. it's growing but not fast enough. your most important asset, your home, despite government efforts to prop up housing markets, home prices have fallen in the last three and a half years. and jobs, 20 consecutive months of jobs gains. it's these last five months right here, this slowdown in jobs growth right