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pacquiao versus marquez 4 on hbo pay-per-view. troops cross the border for the first time in four years. gaza has already seen its share of destruction. this strike was posted on youtube. at least 11 people were killed today. israel wants to prevent any more scenes like this one, a militant rocket aimed toward the city of ashdod. but israel has the edge in technology here. its sophisticated iron dome system takes out most rockets
before they find a target. israel's military is also armed with precision-guided missiles. in this case, striking what is said to be the home of an hamas leader. egypt is trying to prevent this war from getting out of hand. spearheading talks aimed at ending the violence. israel's prime minister says hamas can end all this. ben wedeman is watching the conflict play out. >> reporter: we've seen apparent urgent action by the israeli army in this area to get as much material, tanks, armored personnel carriers and troops in the area around gaza in obvious preparation for a potential ground invasion of the gaza strip. but a decision to actually go in has to come from the leadership, from prime minister benjamin netanyahu and from his security cabinet. that has not come yet.
on sunday, it's expected that the secretary general of arab league is going to come to gaza with four arab foreign ministers. it may be difficult to launch a ground invasion while just a high-level group is there. we understand that intense contacts are under way between israel and the united states to potentially talk about a cease-fire. i spoke with a senior israeli spokesman who flatly denied reports that some sort of negotiated cease-fire was on the way. at this point, don, it definitely seems that that things are moving in the direction of a ground invasion. many people, however, on both sides have their fingers crossed that somehow diplomacy will win out. don? >> ben wedeman, thank you very much. people of gaza know how the last
four ended four years ago with 1,400 palestinians dead. that's why so many are fearful of the activity on their border. cnn's sara sidner covering the conflict from inside gaza. >> reporter: today we've been hearing a chorus of drones overhead and a symphony of air strikes. also seeing plenty of rocket fire coming out of gaza towards israel. we witnessed several times -- several rockets at a time heading over towards israel. right now, we're hearing the sounds of planes. that usually only means one thing, that there will be air strikes that follow. and it's this time of night and into the wee hours of the morning that usually things get very, very intense with lots of blasts of air strikes. but also we know that there have been some blasts coming from the israeli ships in the sea. we ourselves experienced some of the loud booms and bangs that were coming from the sea. we were right on the water there. so a lot of concern. the civilians are not in the streets.
most people have hunkered down in their homes. most of the businesses have been closed. we know that more people have been killed here, including militants and civilians. and many people have been injured today. >> thank you, sara. every u.s. president hopes to be the one that ends the israeli/palestinian crisis. but peace has rarely seemed less likely. earlier i spoke with a senior fellow at the hoover institution. he singled out the obama administration for what he calls its indifference. >> we have to go back and re-examine the diplomatic setting, if you will. people will be pushed to say, we can't afford to ignore this region. we can't afford to ignore this conflict because we look back on the last four years and the indifference, if you will, of the obama administration to what's happening on the west bank in gaza. and i think there will be pressure. there will be pressure from egypt, from turkey. there will be pressure from qatar.
these are the places that are most sympathetic to hamas. >> discussing the u.s. response to the israeli/palestinian crisis. we've got a lot more planned for you this saturday night. here's what else we're working on. the new reality and a rude awakening for the gop. get with it or keep losing. the new faces of congress, gay, bisexual, hindu. meet those making capitol hill more diverse than ever. the new normal. when it comes to sex, batteries and technology are involved. all that plus a real-life soap opera unfolding in washington. you can't write this stuff. voluy new mascara. clump crusher...crusher. 200% more volume. zero clumps. new clump crusher from easy, breezy, beautiful covergirl.
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so i brought it to mike at meineke. we gave her car a free road handling check. i like free. free is good. my money. my choice. my meineke. the threat of an allout ground war looming as rockets fly in neighborhoods across israel and gaza. people on both sides are now living in fear wondering just how close the attacks will come. dean obeidallah is with us. you are of palestinian descent. >> yes, i am. >> your girlfriend is of palestinian descent. >> she was born and raised there. she appeared on tv in israel playing an arab character. >> and you have family there? >> i have a lot of family in the west bank. >> why do you say you're caught between two worlds? >> she'll talk about when hamas
fired missiles at tel aviv a couple of days ago. her father and brother work in tel aviv. you hear that and you hear the concern about missiles coming from hamas. then i'll hear from my palestinian friends concern about civilians in gaza. i don't hear too many palestinian americans defending hamas. they're defending the palestinians, the idea that we're about to see maybe a ground invasion, a horrific loss of life on the palestinian side, obviously some israelis probably will be wounded or killed as well. >> the last time, it was 1,400 palestinians. and what was it seven or 14 or so israelis? >> right. >> and even the ambassador came on and he said, you know, there are millions of israelis who are living in harm's way. and i said, i know you're the israeli ambassador, but there are millions of palestinians as well living in harm's way. >> i kind of wish we could get beyond the idea of, i just stand with israel or i just stand with the palestinians and really look at, what does it mean to stand with somebody? what is a good friend? is it helping them when they're
doing something wrong or trying to push them in the right direction on both sides. >> it's the same argument. i understand there's a difference that people are divided in politics with ideology. some people just can't get the either far left or far right out of their head. this thing is similar in thinking. obviously this is more serious because there are lives involved. even a story that i did earlier about the 11-month-old boy who reportedly died and i said that israel had defied a cease-fire, not in the original starting of this, but when the prime minister came and was there and -- so people get so upset just from wording. what is that? >> people have a great emotional connection. some have family connections. some by faith. i do a jewish show. we perform at colleges. a lot of our work is to bring arabs and jews together and muslims and jews together in
normal ways without screaming at each other. >> they're like, you guys are so pro-palestine, so pro-israel -- for the most part, people say media is very pro-israel. do you agree with that? >> it depends on the sources. frankly, if the you watch fox news, i think they're more pro-israel. but we have the internet, we have youtube. we have twitter. people are seeing exactly what's going on in real time. i don't think that really shapes it. the problem is we have to be there in times of peace where there's not fighting and bring the parties together. not just the united states. perhaps europe and russia. it's time that the israeli government and hamas and fatah all directly or indirectly have conversations. >> i want you to listen to this piece from jim clancy.
>> this is a strategy -- the missiles are proving it's not going to work. they can go in again but it's not going to accomplish anything. it just puts us back there. >> putting the situation back to just where it was? >> where it was four years ago. >> he's talking about the israeli strategy. what do you think? >> he's a man who studied this very well. my opinion agrees with him that you're not going to eradicate hamas. hamas is part of the people there. and they're starving. a lot of them through embargoes and blockades. if you make peaceful revolution impossible, you might violent revolution inevitable. people are going to gravitate to the extremism and to military options only on both sides. you're losing the center on both sides. >> the obama administration was
said to have been indifferent and that in some way escalated the situation or keeps propelling it. >> it could because it seems like it's a green light -- >> do you agree it's an indifference with the obama administration -- >> i think we don't know what's going on. i hope they're moving behind the scenes for a cease-fire. >> thank you, dean. other headlines we're watching for you this weekend. president barack obama should be arriving in thailand in less than three hours. he's on a three-day journey to asia where he'll attend the east asia summit. his visitor to myanmar will be the first-ever for an american president. you thought the election was over. arizona democratic congressman ron barber has officially won a full term for the seat once held by his former boss, gabrielle giffords. barber was wounded in the leg and face in the shooting that seriously injured giffords. the democrats have posted a net gain of six seats are three races still undecided. nfl legend mike ditka had
trouble with his hands and his speech. he'd suffered a mild stroke. but he said, it's no big deal. he's an espn analyst. he won't be on the air this weekend but will be back soon. that's expected. get well, coach. general david petraeus, anthony weiner, gary hart, public servants whose careers were torpedoed over sex scandals. but if they're successful at their jobs, should they be forced to step down? our conversation is next. hmm, it says here that cheerios helps lower cholesterol as part of a heart healthy diet. that's true. ...but you still have to go to the gym. ♪ the one and only, cheerios plus the perfecting color of a bb cream equal? introducing the newest beauty trend. total effects cc cream c for color. c for correction.
it's a story as old as history but as fresh as the day's headlines. a powerful man, married man, at the top of his career, brought down by an affair with an attractive younger woman. how often have we heard that? days ago, retired general david petraeus was known as a decorated lifetime soldier, the architect of a successful
military strategy in iraq. now wrapping up a distinguished career as civilian chief of the cia. then we learned his biographer was also his lover and a career ended. we've seen the story before. but why does it always have to end this way? why? let's talk about it now with susan milligan, contributing editor at "u.s. news and world report" and andrew tilghman, the senior writer for the "military times" newspaper. thank you both. susan, going to start with you. should general david petraeus have resigned from the cia and if not, why? >> well, that's his decision. i mean, that's -- he clearly felt that he couldn't continue effectively in that role. i just think that the environment that we're in makes it -- helped create that situation where he felt he couldn't continue effectively. i really don't get the big deal. i understand in the military,
adultery is a crime, although apparently he wasn't serving in the military when he actually committed the crime -- what they would call a crime. >> but you're saying certainly he shouldn't be forced to resign? if he wants to, that's his business? >> look, people have affairs. this happens all the time. and if we're concerned about the spouses being hurt, imagine how hurt they are when the whole episode is international news. that can't be a pleasant experience. it's just that these things happen. and if we want -- when i pick up the paper and i keep reading, oh, sex scandal -- and the whole term sex scandal is so bizarre like we're in a puritan era where sex a is scandal. i lived in europe for five years and i'm sure they're all laughing at us. you want a scandal? how about the fiscal cliff? how about sandy happens and we're not doing anything about climate change? there's a scandal. >> or about going -- having access to people's e-mails and
wiretapping and all that, that's probably a bigger scandal than this and something that warrants discussion. andrew, i did have to say, i was on an airplane when this news broke and the people i was sitting next to, we were all like, really? this guy's going to resign over an affair? did he give away military codes or secrets? nobody could understand why this was such a big deal. i don't get it. >> yeah, i think i had the same reaction. but one thing that makes this fundamentally different than a lot of the washington sex scandals that we've seen is that david petraeus still gets about $12,000 a month in military pension. under federal law as a retired officer receiving a pension, he's still subject to the uniform code of military justice. and adultery is a crime under the ucmj. that might be really unbelievable for a lot of civilians, but it's a crime.
people do time in the brig for it. i think based on some of the things we've heard this week, there would also be a case to be made if it ever came up that he might also be subject to things like conduct unbecoming of an officer or conduct that brings discredit upon the service. i think it's important to consider david petraeus who spent 37 years in the military, this is the mindset he comes from and -- >> andrew, i get all that. and i understand he is held to a different standard. do you think he's the first general, though, to have an affair? come on. >> no, absolutely not. but i think it's certainly been very public. we all know about it. and it raises questions inside the military of a double standard. i talked to a lot of guys this week, lower ranking enlisted guys that really still feel like rank has its privileges and the upper level guys don't get held to the same standard that everyone else does. >> let's move on. we've pretty much exhausted this subject. that he's held to a higher
standard but it's not right. a person who i feel worse for is his wife. it should be worked out between them. he resigned. i wish we could just move on after that. it seems like lunchroom high school stuff. susan, let's talk about benghazi. the timing of this resignation -- it has a conspiracy theorist really going. do you think that played a role in his decision? >> i would be surprised if it played a role. in fact, i think if anything, he wanted to -- he said he wanted to go in front of the hill and talk to them about what happened, why there was sort of differing intelligence in september about what caused the attack. in a situation like that, i've not been in the military. but i've reported a number of war zones. a situation like that, there's a lot of competing intelligence. there's a lot of confusion. you don't really know what's going on. it's just -- you're going to get
a lot of different information. and he did tell the hill the other day that they did suspect that it was al qaeda. it's not really clear why that was taken out of the talking points given to susan rice. it might have been because they didn't want to tip them off that they knew it was going on. >> i get it. and the information is evolving. certainly the white house should have to be held accountable and answer questions if there is some difference in their messaging. that's certainly true. but, andrew, what administration wants people to die on their watch? no administration wants that. and it certainly appears that many people -- this is an ideological thing to many people. people are contorting themselves to try to make sense of some conspiracy theory and then when you look at it logically, you're like, really? are you kidding me? >> i think regarding benghazi, this happened several weeks before the election. and i think it's just been -- it's really been churned within
the media and the political machine. we've lost a little bit of sense of proportion about it, i think, to some degree. >> and it's people who, quite honestly, don't like the president and don't like the white house and they're trying -- as i say, con for thing themselves into some sort of conspiracy theory. it is terrible what happened over there. but i think everyone needs to take a breath and step back, let the investigation play out, make sure that those who did it should be held accountable as well as the white house as well. thank you, guys. great conversation. wish we could continue. they cut their mikes off. thank you, guys. for more than a week now, it's a scandal that has gripped america. that much-decorated military hero and young ambitious biographer linked by an affair that's rocked the government at its highest level.
the general david petraeus keeps adding new twists and turns with new characters and new drama just like a soap opera, right? >> bottom line, it's a soap opera and it is done. we should all move on. >> oh, this is far from over, stephen. >> susan lucci! >> oh, yes. and there's more. general petraeus has developed amnesia and can't remember that he's pregnant. by his own evil twin. who's in a coma. and is my lover. >> that doesn't make any sense. >> how dare you! >> how did you do that from over there? >> don't you remember? i was in a boating accident and
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a disgraced cia chief, a biographer at the center of a scandal, a top u.s. commander under investigation and a florida socialite allegedly behaving badly via e-mail. at the center of it all, technology. i talked with human behavior expert wendy walsh about why sex and technology have become intertwined. >> because it's become a paired stimulus. here are stats that might freak you out. let me get this right.
single guys can send pornography either on their computers or iphones for about three times four times a week. married times, over seven times a week for 20 minutes. now they're getting platonic texts and e-mails from average people but it can be a little confusing in the mind. if you don't believe pornography has become addictive, think of this. a full one-third of all content on the internet is pornography. so it's a big market. >> you say pornography is affecting our text messages. are you talking about sexting? >> well, because it's a paired stimulus. what happens is men are using their iphones and their computers as sources of arousal. and they also use in it courtship and dating. their brains also become addicted to a constant new stream of brand-new images, of new and exciting lovers. what happens is they meet someone they want to date or their wife and what do they say? send me a naked picture.
because this is the very thing that they're used to -- it's an extension of their sexuality now. of course, the problem is with all the sex scandals that we're seeing nowadays is that people who should only be having platonic text relationship, the boundaries get a little blurred. >> what are the boundaries for men and women? has technology interfered with sexual marriage protocol? >> absolutely. not too long ago, like 20 years ago if i wanted to have contact with a married couple, i would call the home phone where if the guy answered, he might say, let me put the wife on. she holds the social calendar. now every spouse, male or female, has their own facebook page, their own iphone where private texts are going in. it starts to blur the boundaries about are we a unified front? when i see a facebook page where it's one page for one couple, i love it.
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massing on the gaza border preparing for what could be the second ground war in gaza in four years. and the area is still being pummeled by air strikes. that was just minutes ago in gaza city. at least 11 people were killed today in gaza. moving on now. by several measures, our current congress is the worst ever. that's according to gallup, the 12th congress broke a record earlier this year when just 9% of people surveyed gave it a thumbs-up. just 9%. that's less popular than nixon during watergate, than bp during the oil spill, less popular than paris hilton. this congress also has passed fewer laws than any congress since world war ii. i spoke earlier tonight with thomas mann of the brookings institution. he argues that one party is mostly to blame for the gridlock. >> but now the overriding
reality is that the republicans have really gone off track and it happened before the tea party, although the tea party has reinforced it. and that extremism has become the major source of america's dysfunctional politics. >> so joining us again, republican strategist ana navarro. here in the studio is the paul babeu, the sheriff of pinal county, arizona. we'll talk about the new gop, the new face of the gop. ana, let's starts with thomas mann. is he right? are republicans to blame for a do-nothing congress? >> no, it takes two to tango. you've got a majority of democrats in the senate, you've got a majority of republicans in the house. it's been a very hard session
for congress, very little has gotten done. i think that's true. i'm feeling rather optimistic. we saw something at the end of this week, don, that we haven't seen in a very long time. we saw the majority and minority leader of both houses going to the white house and actually come out sounding optimistic and talking about cooperation and getting things done. it's a good omen if they avoid the fiscal cliff and reach some sort of an argument. thankfully there's a new congressional session beginning in january. let's keep on hoping. >> you have to deal with politics as sheriff. do you think the gridlock that the republicans are mostly responsible for the gridlock? >> no, it takes two to fight. and who knows that better than a cop? >> yeah. >> the democrats have an equal standing in that fight and in that gridlock and the fact that the american people want all of our leaders, post-election, to come together and resolve the issues at hand, namely the economy.
>> okay. as a sheriff outside of phoenix, you have been outspoken of the federal government on illegal immigration. what progress if any do you think this next congress which takes office in january will make on this issue because it is a tough issue? >> it is a tough issue. there have a lot of hype and the republicans, i believe, in even my state of arizona had taken it very hard and we were portrayed in a way as being against latinos or hispanics. and that wasn't the case. and it's the same -- arizona, we have a majority of the impact with illegal immigration and by drug cartels and yet we were portrayed as we were against them because of their race or their color. i don't write the laws. i enforce the laws. if we're going to change the law, let's have a discussion about that, what we wanted to see done in arizona and i think across america back with president reagan what was
promised, secure the border first. then we can reasonable a conversation about what we do with the 10 million, 15 million illegal that is we do have here. >> speaking of passion, ana, i know you're passionate about this issue. i heard you last night on bill maher. you said that you thought his parting shot was -- when he talked about people wanting things, you thought that was insulting to hispanics. am i correct? >> i found it terribly offensive. for him -- first of all, i found it in bad form. nobody likes a sore loser. i don't care if you're a republican or a democrat. it is so important to exit the stage with dignity and with grace and elegance. and so i think finding other people to blame is just not the right way to go out of the political stage. particularly when who you're blaming are blacks, hispanics, women, young people -- who's left then? just the white guys? as a republican who is a woman, a hispanic and i'd like to still
claim being young, i find it extremely offensive. >> you look young. >> thank you. >> the white guy is going, listen, don't beat up on me. ana, i want to talk to you about the appearance on bill maher. your discussion on the resignation of general david petraeus -- you made the panel of men blush, not a little bit but a whole lot. listen. apparently there's some problem with that sound. but what did you say? >> first of all, you know it's not easy to make bill maher blush. but, look, don, this is -- really this isn't rocket science. >> tell them what you said, ana. tell them what you said. >> that horny men are easy to get around and that a very smart woman can get around a horny man
any day. i would say that on anything. but let me tell you, this isn't rocket science. if you want a private life, then stay in the private sector. if you want a public sector job, then you're not going to have a private life. you're giving it up. once you put your hand on a bible and you swear to a public sector job, you've given it up. you get a lot of perks. but one of them is not the right to a private life. that's just how the cookie crumbles. >> and paul and i will say to that, yes, dear. thank you, ana. >> paul knows it from experience. ouch. >> okay. >> yes. >> thank you. appreciate it. coming up -- the new faces of congress. gay, bisexual, hindu. meet those making capitol hill more diverse than ever. introducing a revolutionary new mascara.
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november 7th, america woke up, looked in the mirror and saw how it's been changing for years. for the first time, 20 women will be serving in the u.s. senate along with record numbers of asian americans and latinos. hawaii elected the nation's first practicing hindu to the house of representatives. she will also become one of the first female combat veterans in congress. i spoke with her about being part of something that would have been unthinkable just a
generation ago. the decisions you make as a congresswoman -- >> it's part of who i am. and really my hindu practice is what motivated me to be here, the practice of karma yoga, which is dedicating your life in the service of others. saying that the separation of church and state is so important in our country and is really the basis of the freedoms that we enjoy so that we can have buddhists and hindus and christians and muslims and people of many, many different backgrounds serving alongside one another. so making sure that we continue to respect that diversity and we uphold the ability for us to live in this free country and to have these freedoms that we enjoy. >> i want to ask you because usually when you take the oath -- right hand on the bible and you do the, i pledge -- and
you put it on the bible -- you're not going to be using the bible. you're going to use the bhagavad gita, i would imagine? >> i look forward to being able to talk about that in a little more depth once we get closer to january when we are sworn in. >> talk to us about it now. what do you mean? what are you saving? >> i am. i'm honored and excited to be -- to taking the oath of office on the bhagavad gita. it's a scripture that provided me and many others of many different backgrounds with strength and wisdom and inspiration. >> when you look at this last election and many people were surprised by the outcome -- other people, like the first gay senator from wisconsin, and you, and also the first buddhist elected, do you think that this country is moving in a direction that is away from the past, away from the way we used to elect politicians and that there's a new thinking in this country, a
more progressive thinking? those on the right my say, this is way too liberal -- i've heard people say, this isn't traditional america anymore. >> well, i think it's an important statement and it's one that i saw and experienced firsthand during my deployments, both of my deployments to the middle east where i saw there the extreme negative effects of what can happen when a government attempts to act as a so-called moral arbiter for its people. so i think what we're seeing here and what we need to continue to strive towards is making sure that no politician, bureaucrat or government official attempts to put themselves in that position of arbitting so-called morality and that the freedom that our country was founded upon is continued to be upheld. >> i think you guys -- congress ranks even lower than lawyers.
10% of americans approve of the job that congress is doing. >> people tell me i'm crazy all the time. >> how are you going to change that? >> well, i'm excited, actually, because i see great opportunity. when you see these kinds of challenges that we're facing, there is great opportunity to bring in a new and fresh way of thinking. >> there were many people who were really surprised at the outcome of this election, the past election. do you think that people in many ways, especially those who have been in power for a long time or who have run campaigns and so on, do you think that they are that out of touch with the way americans -- most americans think now? >> i think people may have underestimated the power of people and the power of democracy. we've heard and seen and experienced how big money tried to influence elections from the top of the ticket all the way through the --
>> it appeared not to make a difference at all. it's pretty much the same as before the election. >> i'll tell you in my own race, i was the candidate who was not supposed to win. i had a very tough primary battle. i was 45% behind in the polls in february of this year. and through the power of people, through the power of democracy, we turned that around to a win in our august primary by a 21% margin of victory in a six-way primary. and it was not through super pacs and it wasn't through so-called establishment who said i was not supposed to win. it was because people believed they could make a difference and they went out and worked hard and cast their votes, making a very, very strong statement about what kind of representation they wanted going forward. >> congratulations again, congresswoman. say it ain't so. >> i thought it was a prank or something. twinkies are going out of business. >> it is no prank.
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and here's more. why did the toasted marshmallow taste like fish? when you hung that sign by the entrance that says, welcome to flavor town, were you just messing with our heads? oh, my god. fieri insists the reviewer had an agenda. >> i just thought it was ridiculous. i've read reviews. there's good and bad in the restaurant business. but that, to me, dude went so overboard, it seemed like there was another agenda. >> dean obeidallah is back. he insisted that the reviewer had an agenda. did he hit the mark or did it leave a bad taste in your mouth? >> i want to go eat at that restaurant. how could it be that bad? >> the thing is, when you have celebrity chefs -- sometimes i will taste -- not saying this about him.
but everyone goes, oh, my gosh, it's great. and you're like really? sometimes it's not good and people suck up to celebrity chefs. >> i think simon cowell wrote a critique. it was cutting. it was like he did something personal to the guy. it was funny, though. i'm not kidding. i want to go eat there. >> maybe he helped him out in some weird way. >> all press. >> it's like simon cowell, your food is terrible, you are not going to hollywood. >> spot-on. >> can we talk about twinkies. >> yes, we have to. >> poor twinkies. 82 years, hostess shut down twinkie production. new jersey governor chris christie scores our moment of the week with the twinkie dodge. look. >> you think you could get me high on this microphone?
talking about twinkies. this is a set-up, man. i know it. you people are the worst. this is a set-up. >> it's a set-up. >> hilarious. >> he has a sense of humor. i saw this and i said, thank goodness for a sense of humor. >> people are freaking out. people are taking this so personally. people are selling them on ebay. there's a million other crappy things you can eat now in place of twinkies. it's not -- >> are you "the new york times" reviewer -- >> that's my pen name. >> someone got in touch with me on social media and said, you should tell the real story about twinkies. twinkies is not doing well in their estimation because people want healthier choices. it's not necessarily just the union thing. >> they were in bankruptcy twice. it's their second time. people are getting healthier and not buying this stuff. it has so many preservatives, your children could eat it in like 30 years. >> i want to thank you for this.
but for earlier when we were talking about the israeli/palestinian thing. >> it's a tough issue. >> you guys are talking like normal people and not like diplomats and people with talking points and they come on and give their side's point -- >> it's a human issue. there's suffering on both sides. we can't discount the suffering on either side. we're not going to get back to what the real goal is, a long-term solution for both people. >> thank you, dean. >> thank you, don. >> bad reviewer. twinkie, that was him, not me. coming up, return of the jedi. a navy reservist surprises his little boy "star wars" style. might bring a tear to your eye.