tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN February 7, 2013 8:00pm-9:00pm EST
recently it does seem like it's more about shock than rock. there certainly is a difference between sexy and sexual. thanks so much for watching. "anderson cooper 360" starts right now. erin, thanks very much. good evening, everyone. it's hard to imagine a bigger night because it's hard to imagine -- forecast a bigger winter storm than the one that forecasters say could dump more than 2 feet of snow on parts of the country. tens of millions of people could be affected. already thousands of flights have been canceled. we'll tell you what you need to know about where the storm is going to be. we begin tonight with breaking news about the hunt for a killer. he has the means to inflict mass casualties and a mission calling for precisely that. this is a man that police all over southern california are trying to find and may be one step closer to locating. christopher jordan dorner, an ex-navy officer with a grudge against the lapd.
breaking news tonight, police have located his burned out truck near big bear lake. that's about 100 miles east of los angeles. that's the truck there, burned out. they have not, however, located dorner. just moments ago, we learned that the fbi went to the suspect's home in las vegas. we do not know, however, what, if anything, they discovered there. mee meantime, back at big bear lake, the l.a. times is reporting that fresh tracks were found nearby. check points are up on local roads and the faa has barred all local news choppers from the air space overhead. as for the suspect himself, authorities say that christopher dorner is not only armed, not only dangerous and vowing revenge on his former lapd officers but also people close to them. in a strange and chilling online manifesto allegedly written by dorner, he says, and i quote, i never had an opportunity to have a family of mine own, i'm terminating yours. as for his capabilities, a local
police officer had this to say, quote, of course he knows what he's doing. we trained him. i learned today that dorner sent me a package to my office here in cnn in new york. the package arrived on february 1st. i receive a lot of strange packages and letters and we have a system in place for dealing with them. i did not personally see this package or know about it until today. the package contained a dvd and a bullet-riddled keepsake coin called the challenge coin. it's nomhis former boss, william bradden, who joins me shortly to talk about it. that coin had three bullet holes in the center, as you can see. and one partial hole on its edge, on the upper right-hand corner of the coin. we're going to show you more of the contents of that package in a moment. in addition, we're going to talk to a veteran crime reporter about ways of stopping a revenge killer, and chris lawrence on the type of sniper training the
suspect has. but we begin with randi kaye. >> we're under attack. that was the word from one california police lieutenant after at li threast three offic were shot early thursday morning. one officer died. police say the shooter is this man, 33-year-old christopher jordan dorner, a former lapd officer who was fired in 2008. police say two of the officers were shot around 1:30 in the morning here in riverside. they were sitting in their patrol car, parked at a nearby spotlight. that's when investigators say dorner ambushed them and opened fire. a good samaritan called for help using the officers' car radio. one of the officers died. the other was taken to riverside community hospital. the reason for the rampage, it appears to be dorner's attempt at revenge for losing his job. and an effort to clear his name. all of that found online in a long, rambling manifesto allegedly posted by dorner.
in it, there are direct threats against police officers dorner once worked with, as well as threats against their families. it reads, there will be an element of surprise where you work, live, eat, and sleep. i have the strength and benefits of being unpredictable, unconventional, and unforgiving. throughout the manifesto, dorner accuses the other officers of costing him his career, also of racism and use of excessive force. about an hour before that fatal shooting in riverside, police believe dorner shot another officer here in corona, about 13 miles away. the bullet just grazed him. the officer in this incident had been assigned to protect other officers who dorner had allegedly threatened in his online postings. >> the officer was fired upon with a shoulder weapon. officers were able to return fire. one officer sustained a graze wound to his head. the vehicle sustained numerous hits. >> the officers are okay, but
dorner got away. immediately, the california highway patrol issues what's called a blue alert to law enforcement, warning them a gunman considered armed and extremely dangerous is on the run. the blue alert is activated for nine california counties frk stretching all the way south to san diego where police say the attempted hijacking of a boat could be linked to dorner. dorner's police badge was also found in the city, but his shooting spree may have started days ago here in irvine. on sunday morning, monica quan, the daughter of a police official named in the manifesto, was shot and killed along with her fiance while sitting in their car. on wednesday, police officially named dorner as the suspect. quan, who was 27, was the daughter of retired los angeles police officer randal quan. in dorner's alleged online rantings, he blamed randal quan for mishandling the appeal for his termination. dorner lost his appeal in 2011.
before monica quan was killed, dorner allegedly made this threat in his writings. i never had the opportunity to have a family of my own. i'm terminating yours. police here know what they're up against. neighborhoods are on lockdown. intersections sealed off. officers on edge. so much so that two undercover lapd officers opened fire on a pick-up truck they thought was dorner's. turns out it was two women delivering newspapers. one was reportedly shot in the hand. the other in the back. but they'll be okay. meantime, the lapd says it's doing all it can to insure the safety of their personnel and their families. >> of course, he knows what he's doing. we trained him. he was also a member of the armed forces. it is -- it is extreme ly worrisome and scary. especially to the police officers involved. >> those officers know if the
online writings belong to christopher dorner, the police have a bull's eye on their back, and the man coming for them is want afraid to die. >> at this hour, do authorities have any idea where dorner is? are they getting closer? there was a local news report about tracks away from the truck. >> they hope they're getting closer. at this mountain, bear mountain ski resort is on lockdown. they found christopher dorner's truck around 2:30 this afternoon. they're going through the truck. it is burned out. they won't say whether or not they found weapons, but they said they found fresh footprints. they're certainly trying to follow up on those. there are about 400 homes in that ski resort area. they are going door to door. they have called in a lot of extra officers to help. it's unclear if the homes are vacant or if people are there part time or full time. he could be hiding out in one of those homes. also, they haven't received any reports of stolen vehicles. the question is, is he still on foot? can he carry all his ammunition and weaponry on foot?
no question, everybody here still on edge. if you look around here, the officers, they're carrying rifles all over the area. they have their hands on their weapons. every moment, just a short time ago, there were s.w.a.t. teams and police cars rushing by us, so they're certainly on edge, hoping to get an end to this safely, anderson. >> let's hope they do. as i mentioned at the top, in addition to posting the manifesto online, the subject also reached out to be directly, mailing a parcel to my offense on the first of the month. he found this hand labeled dvd with a post-it know saying, quote, i never lied. the dvd shows testimony from a man who said he was kicked by an lapd officer. confirming dorner's story that he said got him kicked off the force initially. also, a coin wrapped in duct tape.
the tape bearing the message, thanks but no thanks. we thought on top it was the initials i.m.o.a., however, if you look more closely at it, it appears to be the number one with a space and the letter m.o.a. that could spend for one minute of ark, which is a marksmanship term. the coin, three bullet holes. that was the coin that was part of this parcel. as i mention, i was made aware of this parcel just today as was the editorial staff of my program and also cnn management, and upon learning of its existence, cnn notified chief bradden and the police department. chief bradden joins me now. i want to show you some of the images that apparently were sent to me. i didn't know about this until really just a few hours ago.
i know you're seeing these images for the first time. the first is a coin, the kind of coin that i would imagine either you give out or it's the kind of things soldiers give out or on police forces they have a ceremonial coin with bullets shot through in the middle and on the side. what do you make this? how did he get this coin? >> chances are he would have received it from me. the photograph that has been displayed widely of me shaking his hand in front of a pair of flags would have been the custom i have when someone is activated into the military, heading overseas, i would bring them to the office, present them with one of these coins as a token of respect and good luck and have their family come up to me, and have a liaison officer who would work with the family while the soldier is gone. looking at the coin, that's what is called a challenge coin. it's my personal coin i give out to people, and it's a coin
that's usually an inch and a half to two inches in half. looks like he shot it through with a .22. >> i think it's a military tradition, whenever i'm with a military group, they'll coin me, or i think president obama has other high officials who have them. do you remember anything about this person? >> i actually do not. and it's interesting because he's a very distinctive looking individual, just the sheer size of him, but in the course of a year in the lapd, i would probably handle anywhere from 200 to 400 disciplinary cases, major cases. and in a 10,000-person department over the space of seven years, i don't recall him. as distinctive as he looks, and i don't recall the specific set of circumstances for which i fired him, or discharged him. now, i have reviewed all those documents, but i have no recollection of it in the sense of even after meeting him. >> in the parcel that was sent
to me, and again, this arrived on, i guess, february 1st, and i'm just learning about it and cnn management is just learning about it today, there was duct tape the coin was wrapped in. on the duct tape, hard to see there, it says thanks but no thanks, will bradden. up on the top, it says i am moa, which we thinks is an abbreviation for imagine more open america. do you have any connection? does that make any sense to you? >> it doesn't make any sense to me. i received a call from your security department just about an hour ago, actually, informing me that they had received this package, i believe, last friday. and as you have indicated, you are just becoming aware of it today, as is senior management, i guess, at cnn. what you are shown me is, being quite frank with you, very disturbing to anybody who would look at it and understand it was accompanied by some form of
letter or written correspondence, so one of the issues i spoke to chief breck a short while ago to inform him, and i understand your security has forwards it to the fbi and they'll share it with the lapd as they move their investigation forward. >> i didn't see it because as you can imagine i get a lot of correspondence and a lot of nutty correspondence and usually forward it. >> as i do as chief of police. >> usually it doesn't even go to me. i sort of forward it on to the security folks. he lists you in this manifesto. he clearly has some sort of a beef with you. does -- does any of that resonate. does it make any sense to you? >> in terms of without speaking specifically to the manifesto and what's in it, although there's public documents i understand the media has been very good about not identifying other people who are listed in the document. in my case, i was the chief of
police that signed off on his discharge from the lapd. so in terms of his grievances, i could understand his grievance directed toward me and my capacity as chief of police, but a lot of people get discharged, and a lot of police officers get discharged. and none of them resort to the actions that this young man has taken. >> well, mr. bratten, i appreciate you joining us. i want to bring in a colleague with experience reporting on law enforcement and participating in it. john miller worked in counterterrorism for the lapd for three years and he's also a cbs correspondent. you have long history in law enforcement. what do you make of this suspect, given his training? how hard is it to track him down? >> it's a unique case. in some ways, you have the classic manhunt, and you also have something that is quite an anomaly which is you have the hunted, who is also hunting the
hunters. he has obviously fired at police officers. he's turned on them as they have approached him. so this is not your average manhunt. you're talking about a guy who has military training in close quarter battle tactics, all kinds of weapons, long weapons, short weapons, automatic weapons, semiautomatic weapons. he's certified in intelligence and counter intelligence which means he's learned the trade task of intelligence. and beyond the military training, of course, he has the training in tactics and procedures of the lapd. i went through the same academy he did and they spent a great deal of time on firearms proficiency and tactical proficiency. and clearly, he's using that to whatever vantage he can. he knows how they think, how they work. >> what's not going in his fa h favor. >> what is not going in his favor is the flipside of that coin, which is a criminal who is
on the run, anderson, has the ability to tap into their criminal network, their colleagues, their associates, other criminals who will give them aid, comfort, money, cars, phones, a place to be harbored, an escape route. his social circle is going to be fellow military officers who police officers. and those are not the people he can turn to. so he's facing as his profile has risen over the last 24 hours, an increasing sense of isolation of where can he turn to. the discovery of the truck up in big bear is actually interesting and perhaps telling. the fact that he set it on fire as opposed to leaving it by the side of the road in an area that no one was really looking almost suggests he wanted to draw attention to it. that begs the question, has he planned some big fiery ending where there's going to be a confrontation and he'll go out in a blaze of glory? we have seen that before. or has he planned an out where he had a stash vehicle, a
disguise, new identification, and he's back on the move? right now, it's too early to tell. >> given he had this whole m manifesto written and the incident that angered him took place in 2008-2009. you would think he had a lot of time to plan this. yet a lot of his movements seem kind of disorganized. he tried to get this boat. that didn't quite work out. then he left his wallet in that area. his wallet was found in the area. does it seem like he's sort of has the steps planned out? >> i think a lot of thought went into this. and he has been -- he's shown some disorganized traits and also some very organized ones. sending the packages out, including the one that came here and other packages that went to other individuals and doing so at the end of january so he could kind of prestage, this is who i am. this is what my grievance is, so that information would be handy to people once his name emerged. the idea that he cut off all his
communications, his cellular televisi telephones, internet, on january 31st, basically wiped himself off the social network, except for the facebook posting that was part of the prestaging. and he had already done the pre-operational surveillance on who his victims would be, where they live, where their family members live. i think if you look at the san diego thing, there's a couple questions there, in stealing the boat, when he tried to do that, he was on his way to getting away, but he didn't handle the dock lines correctly. they got caught up in the rotors. and that spoiled his escape there. you have to wonder, was that part of a plan to go south over the mexican border by sea, or was he going north to some landing point where he had another part of his plan? he's put a lot of thought into this. >> the fact he wentarve police officers who were guarding people who were in his manifesto i found very aggressive. the fact that he would go after
the police officers who were standing body guard over others. >> and how that happened, i learned a little more, is these were -- they pretty much used the entire elite metro division of the lapd to guard these targets. then when they ran out of metro officers because of the number of potential targets, they took one of the gang units from every area and assigned them to additional potential targets. and these officers had rolled into a gas station down in riverside. and a citizen who had seen all those signs on the highway, be on the lookout for this truck, said, hey, i think that truck is on the overpass at magnolia. they circled out of the gas station, headed towards magnolia. they were rolling up on the truck, he came out of the truck, over the top with a semiautomatic rifle. opened fire on the officers. they returned fire, but you know, what it tells us, anderson, is he's not waiting for the car to stop. he's not looking to take off and get in a chase. if given the opportunity, he's going to take the element of surprise, the element of speed,
and the violence of action. the very things they taught him and trained him in the navy and he's going to use that to try and overwhelm. >> scary stuff. john miller, i appreciate it. we learn local authorities are planning to hold a news conference at 8:30 eastern time. about 12 minutes from now. we'll come back to the man hunt shortly. looking at the alleged killer's manifesto, is there anything to be learned in that? the truck has been located about 100 miles east of l.a. a very extensive search under way. first breaking news that could bury tens of millions of people in a ton of snow. chad myers in the weather center has been watching the storm grow into really kind of a monster. what's the latest? >> we still have in this pink area here, anderson, all winter storm warnings. more importantly, 23 million americans are in blizzard warnings tonight. starting about 6:00 a.m. tomorrow, and some spots won't gesnow until even noon. but by the time we do this show again tomorrow night, literally, there could be 10 inches of snow
in some spots and it will still be snowing. this is the least amount of accumulation model i have seen, thinking this isn't going to happen. 7.5 for new york city, 12.8 for boston. this model does believe the merger of the two storms, one to the west, one coming in from the south, will happen with new york city at 14, boston at 34 inches of snow before it's all done. and winds to 60 miles per hour. >> wow. >> one more thing, anderson. where that big bear truck was located out west, there's now a winter storm warning there as well for those officers. >> wow, interesting. that's going to make it a lot more difficult. thank you very much. let us know what you think about all that's going on. up next, back to the manhunt for christopher dorner and the hunt for motives and the words he wrote and posted online. is there anything to learn about how to catch him from those words? as i just mentioned, we're expecting a press conference about seven minutes from now. stay with us for that.
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more. >> the subject line reads last resort. it's perhaps the only explanation we'll hear from the alleged shooter, christopher dorner. over 11,000 words posted on his facebook page earlier today addressed simply to america. it's pages and pages of threats, confessions, and rambling opinions. and it is chilling to read. he writes, quote, i know i'll be vilified by the lapd and the media. unfortunately, this is a necessary evil that i do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the lapd and reclaim my name. the question is what would you do to clear your name? dorner clearly wants vindication from the lapd which terminated him in 2008 for making false statements to a superior officer. the attacks will stop when the department states the truth about my innocence publicly, he writes, i will not accept any type of currency/goods in exchange for the attacks to
stop, nor do i want it. i want my name back, period. he said he was telling the truth and he urges the media to investigate his case. he writes, quote, with the discovery and evidence available, you will see the truth. unfortunately, i will not be alive to see my name cleared. dorner writes repeatedly about his own death. at one point, he writes, self preservation is no longer important to me. i do not fear death. he also writes, i have nothing to lose. you cannot prevail against an enemy combatant who has no fear of death. dorner wants to make sure he's not branded a liar, but seems to have no concerns about being a killer. he promises the violence of action will be high. and he lists members of the lapd by name in his manifesto, writing, in essence, i have lost everything because the lapd took my name and knew i was innocent. your day has come. later, he writes, you destroyed my life and name because of your actions. time is up. dorner doesn't stop there. he writes, suppressing the truth
will lead to deadly consequences for you and your family. i never had an opportunity to have a family of my own. i'm terminating yours. it seems me made good on that promise. on sunday, he shot and killed 27-year-old monica quan, the daughter of one of the officers named in the manifesto. two others have been shot so far, and the manifesto threatens more will come. i know your route to and from home and your division. i know your significant others routine, your children's best friends and recess. i assure you that the casualty rate will be high. dorner doesn't just stick to threats. the manifesto is also filled with bizarre ramblings in everything from news casters to gun control to entertainment. he said he's a fan of the "hangover" movies and offers this opinion about michelle obama. off the record, i love your new bangs, mrs. obama. a woman whose professional and educational accomplishments are second to none when compared to
recent first wives. dorner's tone is unwavering. he's on a crusade, he feels, to purge the lapd of corruption, and he tries to portray himself as a person of morals. he writes, i'm not an aspiring rapper, i'm not a gang member, i'm not a dope dealer. i'm a man who has lost complete faith in the system when the system betrayed, slandered, and libelled me. i lived a good life and though not a religious man, i had a code of ethics. no one grows up and wants to be a cop killer. as a young police officer i found my calling in life, but i found out that the violent suspects on the street aren't the only people you have to watch. >> we're waiting for a news conference at big bear where chris corner's truck was found. chris, if this press conference starts, i'm going to break into our interview. >> got you. >> what i found interesting and puzzling is big parts of the manifesto don't sound like they came from an insane person or
someone capable of doing these killings. he also seems to at times display empathy towards people he cared about. what comes across to you in this? >> absolutely what you said. he's not insane. he doesn't have a serious mental illness like that. this is a man who feels like he is justified in doing whatever he needs do do to get his message out there. he's narcicisstic. he's rationalizing his actions. he's been victimized and he's going to inflict that on other people that he believes are to blame. he's a classic vengeance-motivated predatory violence individual who is just basically a disgruntled former employee who unfortunately has military and law enforcement training. so he's justifying his actions. he's homicidal and suicidal, but he's not crazy in the classic sense. he's got character flaws that make him think he's entitled and special enough that he gets to
do these things, that he gets to take matters into his own hands. >> you're saying he's not only homicidal but suicidal? >> absolutely. he's talking about willing to die as a consequence of all these things, so he's both homicidal and suicidal and extremely dangerous. >> the events he's pointing to, him getting kicked off the lapd, these went back to 2008-2009, why now? what sort of things would trigger this sort of reaction this long after the initial reaction? >> there's been appeals processes going on for a while that he makes reference to in terms of appeals with the courts that have been exhausted. i had heard he had left his job as recently as last friday, another job he had i think with the navy. there's all these options and things that were exhausting themselves, and it's often typical for workplace violence suspects like him to act out when they do all their options
for handling within the system, to become exhausted. that's, where believe, what you're seeing here. there's been a series of events and likely a recent triggering event that has basically kicked his whole plan he's been working on and fiantasizing about for a long time into action. >> i want to remind you that the sheriff's department is about to hold a news conference in big bear, california, where the search is under way. this is where chris dorner's truck was found. we'll bring that to you as soon as that comes up. we'll keep it on the screen as we continue to talk to chris. at this point, for authorities to track down this guy, is there any sense you can glean of how prepared or how thought out his actions mail may be? i talked about this with john miller who thinks he spent a fair amount of time preparing his plan. >> he's been fantasizing about this act of predatory proactive violence for a long time, and
he's been making all kinds of preparations. the preparations haven't been perfect, but this is a man who indicates in his manifesto, in his message, that he thought a long time about it. that he's going to use the skills he's learned in his different military experiences of law enforcement experiences against those in those organizations and law enforcement in particular. so i think he's got a lot more planned. and we're going to see more from him, and what you have to be careful about is, you know, lots of misdirection, and i think that's part of what may be going on right now. >> we're going to be speaking later to some of the friends of this man, that he writes about, actually, in the manifesto, and he speaks highly of in the manifesto. it does sound like he genuinely cares about them. someone like that, someone he cares about as a family member or a friend, is it possible that person could somehow reach him in term s of if there was
communication, talk him down, talk him out of continuing? >> the hope is one of those people that he looks up to, that he respects, that they obviously don't want him to continue this. his message has gotten out there that they would tell him they have seen this. >> i have to jump in. here's the press conference. >> there was a question earlier about whether or not we found any tracks around the vehicle. i can tell you we did find some tracks around the vehicle, but they did not lead to the suspect. we're continuing to work with our partners. there's a number of folks here with us today. u.s. forest service, big bear fire, u.s. marshal, fbi, cal fire, orange county sheriff, riverside police, irvine police, pomona police as well as the san burnernardino police department. we're committed to continuing this operation. we still have a number of patrol cars providing extra service to the citizens of the big bear area, making sure that they stay as safe as possible.
we'll continue the search, and i also have with me assistant chief mike moore from the los angeles police department. >> thank you, sheriff. good evening. this complex and violent investigation has led to this mountain. joining sheriff john mcmahon and the men and women of the san bernardino sheriff's department, am men and women of the los angeles police department, riverside, and others, we're committed to sharing everything bit of information, working in concert with them and apprehending this individual and adding whatever information we can to help these men and women up here find this individual. thank you. >> thank you, assistant chief. we have been in constant communication with our board of supervisors. they are committed to making sure we have the resources necessary to continue this investigation as long as we need to. representing the third district of our county in this area
specifically, supervisor james ramos. >> thank you, sheriff. first of all, on behalf of san bernardino county, our hearts and prayers go out to the victims. and we're here to make sure that sheriff mcmahon has the resources he needs to make sure that the job is done at hand and the task he has in front of him, resources wouldn't be something to stand in the way, so we're here to fully commit and make sure we stand in unison with sheriff mcmahon. >> thank you, supervisor. that's all we have at this point. if there's any questions, i'll take a couple before i have to go. >> when you say the tracks stopped and did not lead to the suspect, where did they lead to? >> what i said is we didn't find the suspect. we did find some tracks, but they did not lead to the suspect. >> my question is where did they lead? >> i'm not going to provide any additional information other than we did follow some tracks, but they have not led to the suspect. >> did they go to a residential
area? >> nord. >> did they begin as vehicle tracks? >> yes, sir. >> how far did they lead you? >> i don't have that information at this point. >> is this search going to continue all through the night or are you going to call it off with the storm coming in? >> we'll continue as long as we can, weather permenting. >> what about tracking dogs? >> it doesn't affect the dogs. we do have dogs here with us tonight. the snow on the ground does give us a pretty good idea of where the tracks are going. and it doesn't affect the dogs, at least not at this point. >> door to door and each and every single cabin and home in the area? >> we're continuing the door to door search in the immediate area. >> sheriff, do you have any air resources that will be able to go overnight trying to find this guy? >> we have air resources with flur. depending on the weather, they will fly tonight. >> what kind of resources do you have on the ground? >> there's about 125 law
enforcement officers in this general area, both tracking as well as doing the door to door searches. >> sheriff, are you concerned that the suspect may be baiting law enforcement into a confrontation? >> certainly, there's always that concern and we're extremely careful and worried about this individual. we're taking every precaution we can. >> residents have expressed concern about all of the empty homes in the area. when you're going door to door and a home is empty, then what? >> if we have seen any signs of forced entry, we'll keep looking at it. if it looks secure, we probably won't. >> who is leading the search right now? >> out here, we have a command post set up and a number of people. >> is one agency taking the lead? >> san bernardino county is the lead on this part of the investigation. >> can you give them advice right now, people in this area? >> sure, i talked to them earlier at the last press conference. the trick is to make sure if they see anything unusual, see anybody who looks suspicious,
let us know. we have plentee of uniforms officers around the community to respond to their calls. >> would you advise people to stay off the street? >> certainly. >> do you know if the susfepect has any survivalist training? >> we don't know. >> we're assuming he's still in the area because we're continuing to look. until we find other information, we'll continue our search. >> did the dogs get his scent, able to track him at all? >> i'm not going to talk about any portion of that. it's part of the investigation. >> did you recover anything in the truck in the way of equipment, weapons, packs, food, anything? >> i'm not going to talk about what the investigation has led to in the vehicle itself. we'll announce that later. i will tell you that we'll process the vehicle tonight at our crime lab in san bernardino. members of the los angeles police department, the irvine police department, and riverside police department will be participating in that evaluation
along with our folks. >> any tips, any sightings, anything? >> there's been tips coming from all over the state throughout the day. no specific tips that we're aware of in this area. >> can chief moore speak to us really quick, police? chief, have you seen anything like this in your career ever? something of this magnitude? >> i would really not like to get into the magnitude of this. this is certainly a very violent and tragic event. i would like to stay focused on the safety for the community and the description of our effort. >> what is your department doing up here? do you have resources up here? >> we have resources up here. we'll continue to support the san bernardino's sheriff's department and the apprehension of the suspect, as is irvine and riverside. this is a whole law enforcement community effort. it has been since the start, and it will continue until its
culmination with the arrest and capture of this suspect. >> thank you, chief. >> you heard from the officer from the lapd and mostly from john mcmahon, a san bernardino sheriff. we're joined by chris muhyundai. just a final thought. one of the most significant things that was revealed there besides the fact that the tracks, there were fresh tracks around the truck, but they did not lead to the suspect, the sheriff also pointing out they do have air assets in place with infrared capabilities which might be availabvaluable at nig although there's a storm coming in. they also have dogs who they say are not affected by the snow, at least at this point. at this point, what do you think people need to know? >> i think people need to know that this man is armed, extremely dangerous. hopefully he'll turn himself in and realize that there's people that he respects that want him to do so. and safety is paramount.
you know, they're looking up there. he's resourceful enough to potentially hunker down up there and survive for a while. but he's also resourceful enough to be elsewhere, and they need to know that the professional men and women of various involved departments are going to be working very hard to resolve this and keep everyone safe. >> clearly, this is a man who has reached out to me here at cnn, he's reached out to other news groups as well, and he has this manifesto. he clearly wants to get his message across. if by any chance he is listening to a television tonight or this broadcast tonight, i assume you would suggest to him that the best way to get his message across is to give himself up, and that will afford him the opportunity to at least, you know, argue his case. >> that is correct. the best solution is to turn himself in. he'll have plenty of chances to tell his story. you know, hurting people is not going to help his cause anymore.
people, here, he has a message to tell. it's time to turn himself in. >> chris, i appreciate your expertise tonight. any armed gunman on the loose would be a threat. christopher dorner is a trained sniper in addition to all of the other stuff. just ahead, the latest we learned about what kind of marksman he really is, and how good is he, and what other weapons training he might have. also, more on the monster blizzard bearing down on the northeast, and the big storm in the barrier causing problems for the law enforcement searching for this man. and it's already causing problems in the northeast. what you need to know ahead. hmmm. uh... yeah, can you find a take where it's a bit more dramatic on that last line, yeah? yeah i got it right here. someone help me!!! i have a flat tire!!! well it's good... good for me. what do you think?
if you're shooting from a concealed position, if you can shoot from your weak side, you might not have to expose as much of your boggy and be a smaller target and still -- >> would they obviously have more specific training? >> no, no special operations training. but he did serve in a riverine unit, sort of the old brown
water nievy, doing a lot of security operations, securing oil platforms, so he has more prior fire arms training than a typical sailor serving aboard an aircraft carrier. >> i want to bring in someone who is mentioned in the manifesto, a friend of christopher dorner's. i can't imagine what this is like for you. bizarre to say the least, and very upsetting. you were mentioned in the manifesto. he said, thanks for introducing me to outdoor sports like fishing, hunting, mudding and also respect for the land and resources. you even introduced me to pbr, a beer, that when you're a poor college student, is completely acceptable to get buzzed off of. i'm sorry i'll never get to go on that moose and bear hunt with you. i love you, bro. what goes through your mind? >> my initial reaction is it's not entirely accurate.
but you know, in spite of that, when i first read it, i have to confess i was somewhat flattered and i obviously made an affect on this person's life, and it seems that i'm a person whom he respects. but you know, going deeper and putting it in context of this manifesto when i have not read but i heard snippets of it, is shocking to say the least. you know, who wants to be lumped in to this kind of a fiasco, frankly, it really is beyond shocking. >> i know he called you out of the blue about four years agoto catch up, which was around the time he was let go from the lapd. what did he seem like? how did he seem then? >> the same person i knew in college. you know, he did mention to me when we were speaking at that point in time, again, about four years ago, he mentioned he had some type of grievance that was ongoing with the los angeles
police department. i don't have any recollection of details, and quite frankly, i don't remember speaking about it, but he mentioned there were issues he was dealing with. he didn't seem to be particularly aggravated and he didn't express any violent tendencies or retribution or anything of that nature. the events of the past couple days come as a big shock to me. >> he did reach out to me here at cnn and to other news organizations trying to get his message across. in case he is watching, what would your message to him be tonight? >> turn yourself in. no good is coming of this. you know, you are not going to clear your name by killing people nor by hurting people or by going on the run. it's absolutely, no good can come out of this. turn yourself in.
and those hurricane force winds will cause blizzard warnings everywhere you see in the red and orange. that's a blizzard warning. 23 million people right now under a blizzard warning. this is the best case scenario computer model i can find. 7.5 inches for new york city. 12.8 for boston. this is a model that does not believe the two storms will combine. and now i'll show you one, a model that does believe the two storms will combine. we'll pile those numbers up into boston, over 30. new york city, at 14. that's a pretty good number. i believe that's probably right on the money. the big story here is we're going to have winds of 50 and 60. you may never see that snow. it maybe just drift 8, 10 feet high. >> winds at 50 or 60, that's unusual for a nor'easter like this, isn't it? >> it certainly is. this is a big storm. this has a pressure that was almost what sandy was as it made
landfall. this is really a windy event, yeah. >> your biggest concern now is what? >> cars getted stranded on the road way. a couple inches, you think you're going to make it home, but you run into an accident in front of you. your car has to seat there for a couple hours until they clear the wreck. now you're in 8 inches of snow. thousands of people on the interstate. that's my biggest fear. >> a lot of folks stuck in the airports tonight. chad, thanks very much. we'll be right back.
special programmatic note to tell you about. 10:00, one of the deadliest attacks on troops in the afghan world when the taliban launched an attack at keating. the battle lasts 12 hours, the losses were devastating, but those who survived said it would have been far worse if staff sergeant clint romesha had not put his life in risk. jake tapper sat down with him for "an american hero" this story ahead. >> there is movement everywhere, muzzle flashes everywhere.
you just couldn't pick them out fast enough. >> october 2009. up to 400 taliban fighters unleash a torrent of withering fire upon a remote u.s. outpost in eastern afghanistan. combat out post keating sat at the bottom of a valley that was both beautiful and deadly. it was one of the most valnerable bases in afghanistan. >> when you look at the manual and look in to find the definition of finding a defensible spot, this is the total opposite of it. >> the attack so fierce in the end more than half of the 53 u.s. troops at the outpost were killed or wounded, but as buildings burned and the enemy ran freely through the outpost, soldiers became heroes. onin particular. >> i know that there's so many great soldiers out there that would have stepped in to my shoes and done the same thing. >> real american hero. you can catch jake