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we come here to help. to be a part of the community. it's always vitally important for me and my team to remember. every house had a family living in it and they need a helping hand. >> more about how to help the recovery effort in oklahoma. visit cnn.com. that's all for us tonight. anderson cooper starts now. >> good evening, everyone. we've got some incredible stories to share with you of what we've seen here today. we do have breaking news in the jodi arias trial. we just learned that county does plan to retry the penalty phase. now, this comes jaus hours after the jury charged with deciding whether arias should live or die, told the judge they were flat-out deadlocked. >> state of arizona versus jodi anne arias. we the jury duly sworn upon our
oaths unanimously find having considered all of the facts and circumstances that the defendant should be sentenced -- no unanimous agreement. signed foreperson. is this your true verdict, so say you one and all? >> yes. >> now, that took less than two hours to decide that arias was exceptionally cruel. arias stabbed him 29 times, slit his neck from ear to ear, shot him in the face. now, in the penalty phase, arias took the stand, pleaded for her lives. she told jurors she could make a difference in prison. we'll talk about it now with cnn legal analyst and former prosecutor sonny hostin. mark is the author of the book, mistrial, how the criminal justice system works. and sometimes doesn't. let's start, though, with cnn ted rollins who was in the
phoenix courtroom and ashley banfield who is also on location in phoenix. ted, reaction of the verdict? what was it like? >> well, it was an incredibly emotional scene inside the courtroom. two of the female jurors were crying as the jury was read. the judge got a little emotional, as well, while she was addressing the jury. and the alexander family, as you might imagine, was very emotional. the sisters were openly wimpering in court. the jury was polled by the judge. and, as the jury was walking out, one of the female members of the jury looked over into the gallery and seemed to trying to be able to communicate. there are reports that she said i'm sorry. from my vantage point, i couldn't tell what she was saying. once the jury left the courtroom, then the entire family continued to sob openly in court. >> what happens to arias now?
until this penalty phase starts in mid july? >> she's back at the county jail here in phoenix and she's basically waiting, along with everybody else, to hear whether or not your district attorney's office will proceed with this next phase and try to empanel oolt jury to try, again, to go after the death penalty. they seem to be going in that direction. i talked to jodi arias' defense team after this and they said she was shocked by this. she did appear very emotional, as well. and then, when the jurors were walking up, she stood up, walked all the way across the end of the defense table and tried to make eye contact with those jurors as they were leaving. >> so, ashley, they're going to empanel this new jury, but they're not going to relitigate the case, right? >> correct. not the guilt-innocence phase of
the case and not that other phase which it was particularly cruel. that's been decided by this jury and those verdicts stand. but what's odd is that this third phase, which was solely life or death, it only featured jodi arias. and while it seemed like she took the stand, she actually did not. she took a podium and did not have to swear under oath and she was not challenged. no challenge to anything she said. it could be entirely different the next time around. in fact, it has to be. any new panel of jurors, actually, they need to learn what it is they're deciding her fate over. here's the problem. they've seen a lot of television on this. so it's going to be real tricky to voir dire them. that is a really tricky, tricky road to home. >> is it just for the penalty
phase? >> my reaction of the verdict is -- you and i talked about this, anderson, when you talked about that slew of juror questions when they were referring to her by first name, jodi. there is a familiarity there that i think kind of portended the fact that there was somebody -- or people back there, who felt this was a human being who said i'm going to give this person death. i'm not so sure and i really do not think that it's a fate accompanying that they're going to retry this case. they need to see what the split uz. they have to see was this one or two hold outs for life? so it was 10-2 for death? or did this tilt towards life and not death? most prosecutors figure it was grossly in favor of life? i don't think they would expend the resources.
i don't think that they would waste the time, the resources, to go after them again if this jury leaned to wards life. >> sonny, will the prosecutors check in with travis alexander's family? >> there's no question about it. and that hasn't happened yet. this just happened. the veshlgt came down today. the prosecutors have to speak to the family. we know this family has been with this family day in and day out. it's premature to say that this will go to a new penalty phrase. phase. i agree with mark a hundred percent. and i suspected that this is the kind of case that could very well end in some sort of plea deal where jodi arias plead guilty without the possibility
of parole and weighs her appeals. i think that is going to be very important to the prosecution. >> jose, what do you think about the chances of a deal where death is off the table and the prosecutors just go for life? >> oh, initially, i would have thought that. specifically, the alexander family to determine what it is that they want. and it's not only about walking out of the courthouse and saying hey, do you guys want to go through this again or try it again? i think the family really needs a little time, a little time to thechb make a decision, a collective decision of the family.
so i'm a little bit shocked that they would jump the gun like that. that doesn't preclude them from cutting a deal, going all the way through them. >> how tough is it for the jury to come to a unanimous decision? how is it going to be any easier for a new jury to come to a unanimous decision? >> i don't think it's going to be any easier. nothi . >> nothing about what this prosecution and particular prosecutor has done has been rational in any sense. they've been over the top. they announce they're going to retry it is over the top. somebody needs to be rational and sit back and digest what
happened. do you put everybody back through this and make a spectacle out of this? and, i still -- i'll go back to what i said before, you've got to know what the split is. if it was 6-6 or 9-3 in favor of life, then you can't expect that you're going to do any better next time around. as i've said countless times, this just kind of demonstrates the ir ra trooefble, broken nature of the death penalty system in america. >> jose, when we -- jose, when we heard -- i'm sorry, we're being told we're getting video of juror number 9 coming in. let's play that. >> did you look at them? >> sir, is there anything you'd like to say to the family of travis alexander as a juror? >> no. >> sir? >> do you think that travis alexander's family now has justice?
>> sir, if you just give us one word, is there one word you would use to characterize? we certainly don't want to bother you, sir. we will go away. but is there any way you can characterize how did you vote? >> no comment. >> no comment what so ever? >> no comment. >> reporter: will you give us the break down? that's really what everybody is curious about. >> no comment. >> reporter: no comment. >> reporter: any advice for the next jury? >> no comment. >> that was actually pointless. i don't know why we showed that to you. obviously, he had no comment and they were harassing him. jose, how likely -- let me ask you the same question, how likely is it that a new jury can come to this with a fresh pair of eyes? that this trial has been so widely viewed. >> for lack of a better phrase, this penalty phase from the start, repeal.
this new jury is not going to alleviate those issues. i think they're going to create more. but this case will bring forward new issues and by having a second penalty phase, it's just going to compound the problem even more and getting off to a wrong start. i can't dell you or stress enough the uniqueness or social aspects of the trial, the way it was covered, intimidation of the witnesses, which are clearly established here. how rare is that? a 20 something-year-old girl doesn't have a soul in the world to testify on her behalf. when everyone -- when your average 25-year-old has a million friends and many people comes forward.
but because of intimidation, because of social media and the coverage, i think you have a legitimate problem that's going to be addressed. and it's going to be a long, drawn out process. having another penalty phase will only compound things more. >> we've got to leave it there. lel us know what you think about this trial. you can follow me o on @andersoncooper. new video from inside the school here in the dark right as the tornado hit. >> you're going to hear from the teacher who took this video. when you see what the school looks like now, you're going to be amazed anyone let alone everyone survived. later, a graphic video that we're going to show you after the break as police took down the suspect.
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hey, welcome back here to moore, oklahoma. you may hear some construction noise around me even though darkness has come in this neighborhood which has completely been destroyed. we're trying to fix up their homes and secure them as much as possible putting the wood on the door so that no one is breaking in. the first funeral was held here today, the first of many, after
loved ones are remembered. tony died along with her six classmates including her best friend. tonight, before we do anything else, we want to remember her and so many others who lost their lives as we remember a little bit about each. we're learning more and more each day. jenny kneelly lost consciousness. jenny neeley was 38. randy smith was 39, an electrician, he loved playing video games and watching movies with his son. cindy plumley was a nurse. she enjoyed spending every moept she could with her children and grandchildren. and then, of course, there are the children, emily conatzer who was nine years old. she loved lady gaga. her father said she was a fashion diva. christopher legg.
9 years old, loved sports and was battling skin cancer. his family says he was facing it with strengts. then there are the vargyas sisters. they were at home with their mom and grandmother in the tub trying to stay safe. their mom and grandmom survived. karina was a vibrant 4-year-old. we're going to talk to her dad later on. phillip is going to join us ahead tonight. amazing, when you see the video, no one died at briarwood elementary. that's a real testament to the principal and the teachers and the students. it was the closest of close calls. this is about as close as you can get. it's -- we're going to play you two clips. the second one, it's all over and the damage, they start to see the damage in the school. the first video is in total darkness. that's what they were seeing
that was cell phone video taken from a fifth grade teacher. i revisited the school earlier today. take a look. >> this part, here, is where i was at. so while it was absolutely terrifying, we heard everything going on overhead. it's nothing like what happened back there where it approached the building. >> so you took your kids out of the classroom to this hallway? >> right. >> so these are cinder block walls? >> yep. look around you. we don't have any glass in our classroom. we are safe. i know you hear scary things, and we recently had very bad
storms where a lot of our students had taken shelter the saturday and sunday before. i said you're safe. you're in cinder block walls. >> but the roof here, it's basically corrugated steel. >> right. but this was the building that sustained hardly any damage. >> so what part of the building is this? >> that's where my son was. with mrs. bidle. >> and that's about the only corner that survived? >> that is still existing. her desk was -- you see she painted the walls rain woe. bow. and there still is some standing over there. but i just don't know how my children weren't either crushed to death or sucked out.
i have no idea. my daughter was across the way. there's a car outside her classroom. he just said that there are approximately six cars in the vint. >> and this car obviously should not be here. so where did this car come from? >> we have no idea. >> so it got picked up. slammed here. >> this is the middle of the school? >> middle of the school. >> how soon after the storm passed were you able to find your kids? >> my kids, personally, came out right away. my son was just standing behind me, all of the sudden. i asked him later, how did you get out. he said mrs. bidle helped us out. and i believe our pe teacher, mr. murphy, they had a chain. and they were just sending the kids out. because you can't walk out of that. my daughter was rescued by her dad.
all the kids were rescued through a broken window, a single window that someone busted out. they essentially could have been trapped in there. we had some opening, but i don't know if that was unfortunate or let us get out. it's so haphazard. nothing you can prepare for. no matter how many times you drill or say i'm innocent or in a block building, it doesn't matter. >> did you think that you might not guilty make it? >> i knew that nothing like this had happened to me before. to our school before. i had heard about it. i think at one point, i thought how is there not going to be loss of life in this building. but, again, if i were back here,
i would have been convinced that it was my last breath. my fourth grade daughter's teacher said at first this is going to pass. we've gone through procedures, we've been here 30 minutes. can someone check? and the more updates we got, it was it's coming. brace yourselves. and then it was more of a panic that it's congresswomaning. and she said she just kept her kids in the corner and she put her arms around him and she said at one point, she was just praying over them. lord, give us protection, bring us peace. then, when it was over, she had to pass her children out the window. everything caved in. amazing to think that my daughter was in that. and that she survived.
>> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> it is amazing. joining me now is briarwood's principal. it's amazing, when you see mrs. bidle's class, the one corner when she had the kids hunkered dwoun u it's incredible that nobody lost life there. >> it's a miracle. truly god's protection over us. i mean, when you look at that footage, or just where the kids came out are the places that there was just enough space. and i don't know how that happened. you know? and the storm was picking up cars and slamming them into the school. >> yes, that's an odd feeling. you can't just go get your car. like, i'll drive off now. yeah. i'm really proud of the whole staff there and keeping everybody safe. it's heartbreaking. i haven't seen that video. so it's hard to see.
>> you went back to the school today? >> yeah. >> what was it like? >> that initial shock of seeing what it looks like and, wow. we came out of that. so i was worried about the teachers going out there. the fire and the police were there so that we could walk in and do it faithfully. i worried about them. i kept warning them. be prepared. it's going to be hard to see. when you're leaving that night, you're not thinking about what you came out of or how much space there was. when you came back in the night of day, wow, how are we going to get out of this? >> do you think that things are going to change? obviously, i've had a lot of people tweeting me and texting me, saying why aren't more schools having shelters. that's something you oov slbvio would like to see?
>> yes, i know in '99, they put in a safe room over there. i'm assuming that's what's going to happen. i know our superintendents are talking to people, trying to get some kind of funding. it has to be important to keep our kids safe. >> and that's what it is. a matter of getting the money for it. so, listen, i i'm so glad everything worked out. i'm so glad -- >> yeah. yeah, it's nice to meet you, too. you guys are doing a great job. >> i wish you the best of luck in rebuilding. >> all right, thanks. >> just ahead, the one loss one family is facing with incredible strength. two young daughters killed. the father wants to talk tonight, he wants you to know about the little girls he lost, what they were like in life. we also have new video of that terrible, horrible terror attack. you'll see a suspect charge police. police opened fire. we're going to update you, as well, on two new arrests. we'll be right back.
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welcome back. anyone with kids in the room, you might want to tell them to leave the room or look away for a few seconds. we have new video of police in england taking down a pair of terror suspects. take a look. the reason we think it's important to show you, you can clearly see at least one of the alleged killers charging police. then and only then do the police fire. two men are in custody.
there are more arrests, as well. nick robertson joins us live from london with the latest. so the video that we're showing, what's the reaction been to it in england? >> reporter: well, the reaction here is to make people aware that police did arrive that they were armed and ready to respond. there was concern the police had taken a long time to get there. but what most people here are concerned about is that the police force are ready to deal with people like this. i think a lot of people are concerned that the police came and they were able to identify these gunmen, that they were able to see these attackers, that they were able to see that they were coming towards them and that they took long. there's a lot of people here that would worry that perhaps the police and britain weren't able to see the situation like this. now people are relieved that they see that they can. >> there were two other people taken into custody today.
what do we know about them? what do we know about the suspected killers? yesterday wasn't clear if they were british citizens or not or where they had been born? what do we know? >> one of the suspects, british citizen, but of nigerian decent. he had turned to islam about seven or eight years ago. a convert to islam. he had joined an organization or at least gone to rallies with an organization that had a very pro-al-qaida agenda. the two people that were arrested today, we don't know their direct connection to the two primary suspects. but we know that they had been arrested on suspicion to conspiracy to murder. both 29 years old. one a man, one a woman. their condition, we're being told? stable, anderson. >> lee rrigby, what do we know about him now?
>> this is a young man, 25 years old. very well respected and liked by his colleagues and his family, as well. ench w everyone who's talked about him said he would always liven up the situation. he had a two-year-old son named jack. he joined the army in 2006. in 2009, he was deployed to afghanistan on a support base using artillery mortars to support troops in-field. in 2011, when he came back to britain, he became a recruitment officer at the barracks behind me here. o potentially, did his attackers know him? >> nic, i appreciate the reporting. thank you very much.
also, some terror plots in the wake of the boston bombing tonight. one of the youngest victims was discharged today from boston's children's hospital. she was in the hospital for 39 days in intensive care. show had 12 surgeries. she lost her left leg below the knee. you may remember, she had been an irish dancer. she hopes to dance again. we'd been following her story closely. i talked to the amazing paramedic matt patterson who saved her life. in a statement today, the richards said that jane has been moved to a rehab facility where they say she's going to continue her recovery. they remain devastated over martin's death. a mass will be held in his memory on june 9th, which would have been his ninth birthday. there's a lot more happening in the world tonight. >> anderson, some breaking news
in the jodi arias hung jury. late word is the jury hung 8-4, 8-4 in favor of death. other news now, in his first major counter terrorism speech of his second term, president obama defended his administration's use of controversial drone strikes. president obama also said he would resume steps to eventually close the u.s. prison at guantanamo bay. lois lerner, the head of the unit that targeted tax exempt status has been placed on administrative leave. the move comes a day before she testified before the house committee. she had not broken any law or agency regulations and then took the fifth. the boy skoults of america today voted to lift its long standing ban on gay members.
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we've seen a real out pouring of compassion and kindness here, volunteers from all over the state to help clean out. oklahoma's attorney general is warning, though, about business scams and price gouging in the wake of this disaster. it's unthinkable that folks would be gouging prices. what have you been hearing? >> i talked to the state's attorney general office earlier today. they said they've already gotten about ten complaints of price gouging, one of those was a hotel that doubled its room rate. an inspector went to that hotel and got them to bring down their prices. another gas station actually raised the price of a gallon of gas by a dollar. but this is against the law in this state. they passed a law after the may 3rd, 1999 tornado because they were having some of these same problems.
repair and remodelling can't raise their rates more than 10 pbt. . people in the neighborhood saying they were contractors and then disappearing. >> they pose as volunteers and do that very thing. this state, state inspectors are already being proactive about this. they drive around in pick-up trucks, usually out-of-state plates. now state inspectors are going to the hotels in the area and taking pictures of these pick-up trucks that they can show to victims if they have problems. >> and it's something law enforcement will be on the look out for. >> anderson, the day after the tornado, i had a problem trying to get in here because law enforcement was so protective of keeping people out and looters, especially. >> erin, i appreciate it.
thanks for the reporting. there is a lot more to tell you about here. many homes and buildings in this part of the country don't have formal storm shelter. in tonight's american journey, a company that's on a mission to try to change that. here's tom foreman. >> in the wake of the oklahoma twister, some have been raising their voices high, insisting this storm off to spur a movement from more people to put in storm shelters. from wichita, kansas, pba architect sold an assortment of models, many of which looked like normal rooms. and there, corey sees it as more of a business, it's a mission. >> after-the-fact, it's too late. this has to be something that you plan for, you get in, you get it in place and use it. and use it correctly. and i think it can save lives across the country. >> reporter: crude storm shelters have been around for generations, famously featured in "the wizard of oz."
but modern shelters are an entirely different matter. many companies offer a variety of steel and concrete structures boasting an array of extra security measures and strength. >> each one of these anchor bolts has a 10,000 pound sheer strength. but so by putting one every fot around here, you can more than withstand any storm. >> the challenge has always been economics. even simple storm sheters can cost thousands of dollars. and as bad as these storms can be, even in the most tornado-prone areas, most home wills never be hit. >> it's about the money and statistics. an f-5 tornado is very, very rare. they don't happen very often. >> still, proponents look at the plaza towers elementary school in oklahoma, the decimated houses and they stand firm. >> nobody can talk to me and talk me out of shelters are worth it. i know they are.
so many families were able to stay safe because they had plans and practices in place. they knew how to climb into the bathtub. but when this ef-5 twister took aim out their house, there wasn't much they could do. their mother and grandmother survived, but were seriously injured. their father, phillip and the couple's two oldest children were not home at the time, they survived. i spoked to fill limb vargias earlier this evening. >> i'm so sorry for your loss. >> i appreciate that. >> how are you -- how are you
doing? how are you standing? >> basically, i've got a lot of things that i have to do in order to rebuild. that's what's driving me. my wife and my mother-in-law were in there with my babies. i wouldn't ask them to do anything other than heel at this point. and i know that i've got a lot of grieving to do, but at the same time, there's a lot of work that needs to be done and i have to move forward with that. and my wife has been supportive through it all. she's a strong woman and i'm proud of her. >> your four-year-old, karrina, she wanted to be an ice skater? >> yes, we took her to disney on ice at the last day fair here in oklahoma. ever since she saw her favorite princesses out there skating, she wanted to go out there and skate just like them. i alms told my kids you had to do one thing outside of school and ice skating is what she wanted to do.
unfortunately, we didn't get an opportunity to take her ice skating before this has happened. but we'll take her one day. she'll be the next time we go. whenever we take the kids and the wife, we know she'll be there with us and we el enjoy it all the more. >> and 7-month-old cindy is one of the only children born here in oklahoma? >> yes, i was in the military, so i had several in california and one in washington. they were all here but they weren't born in oklahoma. >> and she just started krauing? >> she crawled for the first time on sunday. i actually had a joke being my only okie, you would crawl on suchbd. at least we had that last memory, i got to see her crawl before she was taken. >> and how are you other kids doing? >> they're doing surprisingly well.
my 11-year-old son, damien, and my 8-year-old daughter, aria, they're carrying on as if it's normal life. and that's good. i mean, we discussed what has happened. i believe in full disclosure. >> they're 11 and 9? >> no, 11 and 8. i discussed everything with them, and me and my wife hugged and kids are resilient. as soon as that hug was over, they went to terrorizing the hospital for as long as they could. >> and how is your wife? >> she's doing good. she sustained a couple lacerations, which is not bad, considering what i saw at ground zero where she should have been, according to how we did our tornado drill. >> she actually was picked up by this storm? >> right. and i didn't know that until yesterday morning. i had spoken with her and she finally had some clarity. we had some time to talk.
and she told me that after she had landed, she sat up and looked around and had seen her mom who was in there with her. and wasn't sure if she had made it. but she had started her search for our girls at that time. dazed and confused. i had to ask her, you landed? she came to realization that she was picked up by the force of the storm. so i couldn't imagine what she's seen. and that's the reason why i'm here doing a lot of what i'm doing so she can heal, both mentally and physically. >> is it going to be a long recovery for her? >> physically, she was actually released from the hospital today. she's in good condition. she's soar. >> where do you go from here? >> to be honest with you, from here, we're still making decisions. we want to stay as close to the community where we were at when this happened. my family has a lot of roots here. i believe for my kids to make it through this, we have to make
the transition as seemless as possible. and the best way to do that is to keep them surrounded by the things they know most, whether it's friends, family, youth at let'sics and things like that. so we actually plan on reestablishing our roots here and more despite the disaster. >> and it was karrina's birthday coming up, isn't it? >> correct. she would have been five years old in about two weeks or so. and my grandmother had actually mentioned that she had her birthday presents still in the closet. so it's -- there's tragedy all around. it's a bad situation. >> we're sorry for your loss. >> i appreciate that. i really do. >> our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. >> thanks. i appreciate it. >> we've got some more breaking news right now. a preliminary report coming in of a bridge collapse in washington state. the state police are telling our seattle affiliate that a bridge on interstate five, north of
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