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it's always vitally important for me and my team to remember. every house had a family living in it and they need a helping hand. >> more about how to help the recovery effort in oklahoma. visit that's all for us tonight. anderson cooper starts now. >> good evening, everyone. we've got some incredible stories to share with you of what we've seen here today. but first breaking news in the jodi arias trial. we just learned that county does plan to retry the penalty phase. this comes hours after the jury charged with deciding whether arias should live or die, told the judge they were deadlocked. this is how it went down. >> state of arizona versus jodi anne arias. sentencing verdict. we the jury duly sworn upon our oaths unanimously find having considered all of the facts and circumstances that the defendant should be sentenced -- no unanimous agreement. signed foreperson.
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>> is this your true verdict, so say you one and all? >> yes. >> now, remember this is the same jury that took less than two hours to decide that arias was exceptionally cruel when she killed travis alexander. arias stabbed him 29 times, slit his neck from ear to ear, shot him in the face. now, in the penalty phase, arias took the stand, pleaded for her life. she told jurors she could make a difference in prison. the 12 jurors needed to reach a unanimous decision. obviously they could not. let's talk about now with cnn legal analyst and former prosecutor sonny hostin. and also mark geragos. let's start with cnn's ted rollins and what was it like? >> it was an incredibly emotional scene inside the
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courtroom. two of the female jurors were crying as the verdict was read by the court clerk. the judge got emotional, got a little emotional as well while she was addressing the jury. and the alexander family as you might imagine was very emotional. the sisters were openly weeping in court. as the jury was walking out one of the female members of the jury looked over into the gallery and seemed to be trying to communicate with the alexander family. there are reports that she said, i'm sorry from my vantage point. i couldn't tell what she was saying. once the jury left the courtroom then the entire family continued to sob openly in court. >> what happens to arias now? until this penalty phase starts in mid july. >> she'll -- tonight, she is back at the maricopa county jail here in phoenix and she is waiting along with everybody else to hear whether or not the
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district attorney's office -- they'll try to impanel another jury to try again to go after the death penalty. they have indicated in a statement which you mentioned at the top of the show they seemed on the going in the direction. i talked to the defense team afterwards and they said she was shocked by this. and she did appear very emotional as well just prior to the reading of the verdict and then when the jurors were walking up, she stood up, got out of her chair and walked all the way across to the end of the defense table and tried to make eye contact with those jurors as they were leaving. >> so ashleigh, they're going to impanel the new jury but they're not going to relitigate the case? >> correct. not the guilt and innocence phase of the case and whether it was particularly cruel. that has been decided by the jury and those verdicts stand. what's odd, this third phase which was solely life or death,
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it only featured jodi arias and while it seemed like she took the stand, she actually did not take the stand. she took a podium and did not have to swear under oath and she was not challenged. no challenge to anything she said. it could be entirely different the next time around. in fact, it has to be, anderson, because any new panel of jurors say actually they need to learn what it is they're deciding her fate over. here's the problem. they have seen a lot of television on this and so it's going to be real tricky to voir dire them and find out if they can be fair and honest and unbiased when they render this kind of verdict. that's a really tricky road to hoe. >> so mark, your reaction to this verdict? is it unusual to bring in a whole new jury just for the penalty phase? >> well, my reaction is what it is expected. you and i have talked about this, when we saw all that slew of juror questions and they were referring to her by her first
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name, jodi. there's a familiarity there that i think kind of portended the fact that there was somebody or people back there who felt this is a human being, you know, it's tough to say i'm going to give this person death. i'm not so sure and i really do not think that it's a fait accompli they're going to retry this case. i think they need to find out first, maybe ashleigh knows or has some of the news or ted, but they need to see what the split was. they have to see was this one or two lone holdouts? so that it was 10-2 for death? or did this tilt towards life and not death? for most prosecutors, if it was grossly in favor of life, i don't think they'd expend the resources although most prosecutors have an unlimited budget and they exceed that. i don't think they'd waste the time and the resources to go after her again if it leaped -- if this jury leaned towards life. >> sonny, will the prosecutors
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also check in with travis alexander's family to see what they want, to see if they want to go through it again? >> no question about it. this just happened, the verdict came down today. the prosecutors have to speak to the family because we know this family has been in the courtroom day in and day out. they were visibly shaken and upset when this hung jury came back. so there's no question in my mind that it's premature to say that this will indeed go to another penalty phase and a new jury will be impanelled. i agree with mark 100%, that decision really hasn't been made. i suspect that this is the kind of case that could very well end in some sort of plea deal where jodi arias pleads guilty or accepts a sentence of life in prison without the possibility of parole and waives her appeals. i think that's very important to the prosecution. >> right. jose, what do you think about the chances of a deal here or that death is taken off the table and she goes -- the prosecutors just go for life?
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>> oh, initially i would have thought they're excellent. but i'm somewhat shocked by the nature of the reaction of the state to announce immediately without even talking to nip -- to anyone or specifically the alexander family to determine what it is that they want. and if not only about walking out of the courthouse saying, hey, you guys want to go through this again or do you want to try it again, i think the family needs a little time -- a little time to actually digest what has happened and transpired over the last several months and then make a decision, a collective decision as a family before deciding to go through this again. so i'm a little bit shocked that they would jump the gun like that and make that type of an announcement. but that still doesn't preclude them from actually cutting a deal all the way -- going through it again and still cutting a deal before the jury
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comes back again. >> how is it going to be any easier for another jury to come to a unanimous decision? mark, how is it going to be any easier for a new jury to come to a unanimous decision? >> i don't think it will be any easier. look, i love jose, but i'm not shocked, jose. nothing about this prosecutor has done has been rational in any sense. they have been over the top and to announce they'll retry it is over the top. someone needs to be deliberative and rationale and sit back and just digest what happened. do you put everybody back through this? and you still -- i'll go back to what i said before, you have to know what the split was. if it was a 6-6, or if it was 9-3 in favor of life, then you
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can't expect you'll do any better next time around. why would you put everybody through it? and as i have said countless times, this just demonstrates the kind of irretrievable, broken nature of the death penalty system in america. >> jose, i mean, how likely is it do you think that a new jury can come to this with a fresh pair of eyes? i mean, this trial has been so widely viewed. >> for lack of a better phrase, this penalty phase is dead from the start. i have to tell you, it is ripe with issues for appeal. this new jury -- the arizona death penalty statute the way it is designed has already gone through the u.s. supreme court. but this case will bring forward new issues and by having a second penalty phase, it's just
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going to compound the problem even more. they're getting off to a wrong start. i can't tell you or stress enough as to the uniqueness of the social media aspects of a trial. the way it was covered, the intimidation of the witnesses which are clearly established here. how rare isn't clear -- a 20 something-year-old girl doesn't have a soul in the world to testify on her behalf. when your average 25-year-old girl has a million friends, and many people that could come forward. but because of the intimidation, because of some of the social media and the coverage, i think you have a legitimate problem that's going to be addressed and this is going to be a long, drawnout process. but people want jodi arias to go away. retrying -- having another penalty phase will only compound it and make it more. >> all right.
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we have to leave it there, jose bias, mark geragos, ted williams, ashleigh banfield. coming up, we have a lot of information from moore, oklahoma. more video from inside the school right as the tornado hit. [ screaming [ . >> you're going to hear from the teacher who took this video and the sound. when you see what the school looks like now, you'll be amazed that anyone, let alone everyone survived. later the london terror attack. graphic video we'll show you after the break as police took the suspect. we'll be right back. #%tia[
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welcome back here to moore, oklahoma. you may hear some construction noises around me. people are trying to fix up their homes and putting wood on
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the doors so that no up with on breaking in. the first funeral was held. loved ones remembering 9-year-old antonio candelaria. tonight, before we do anything else, we want to remember her and we're learning more and more each day. jenny neely. she and her son jacob were riding out the storm at home in a closet. he was thrown clear, he is okay now we're told. his mom did not make it. jenny neely was 38. randy smith was 39, an electrician. he loved playing video games and watching movies with his son dylan. he lost his life in the storm. cindy plumley was a nurse. her family was her life. she enjoyed spending every moment she could with her children and her grandchildren. she was just 45. and then of course there are the children. emily conatzer was 9 years old,
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loved lady gaga. she was a fashion diva, loved designing hats and clothing no telling what she would have done in life. christopher legg, loved sports and he was battling skin cancer. his family said he faced it with strength and enthusiasm just as he faced life itself. then there are the vargyas sisters. they were at home with their mom and grandmother in the tub trying to stay safe. their mom and grandmom survived. karrina was a vibrant 4-year-old and wanted to become a figure skating. we'll talk to her father later. phillip varrygas will join us later on. no one died at this school, but as you'll see in the exclusive video taken by a teacher, as she hunkered down with her kids it was the closest of close calls. this is about as close as you
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can get. we'll play you two clips. the second one it's all over and the damage -- they start to see the damage in the school. the first one in total darkness. that's what they were seeing during the storm, but it's sound of the storm itself and you hear the kids themselves and how scared they are. it's an ef-5 tornado tearing through the school. listen. [ screaming ] >> i'm sorry, i'm sorry, it's all my fault. >> you are okay. it's all over. it's almost over. it's almost over.
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it's almost over. >> i hate this! >> i know, it's okay, honey. >> you hear the teacher trying to keep them calm. that's what it sounds like. a 200 mile per hour tornado. this is what teachers and students experienced just seconds after the funnel cloud passed. >> calm down. listen! listen! >> shh! [ whistle ] listen. okay. >> shh. >> wow. oh, my god. oh, my god. oh, my god, my house. oh, my god. oh, my god.
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oh, my god. >> the cell phone video taken from a fifth grade teacher. i revisited the school earlier today. take a look. >> this part here was where i was at. and it's wall to the ceiling and so when -- while it was absolutely terrifying and we heard everything going on overhead, it's nothing like what happened back there. where it approached the building. >> so you took the kids from out of your classroom into this hallway here first? >> right. >> so these are cinderblock walls. >> yep. that's what i told my students in the classroom. i said, look around you, we
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don't have any glass in our classroom. you are safe. i know you hear scary things about storms and we recently had bad storms where a lot of the students had taken shelter the sunday before -- saturday and sunday before. and i said, you're safe. you're in cinder block walls, you know? >> but the roof here -- it's basically corrugated steel. >> right. but this was the building that sustained hardly any damage. >> so what part of the building is this? >> that's where my son was. >> right over there? >> yeah. with mrs. biddle. you see the green bulletin board and the brown door? mrs. biddle had them tucked into that corner. >> so they were sitting literally in that corner? >> that corner. >> that's the only corner -- >> that's still existing. her desk was -- you see the -- she painted the walls rainbow. and there still is some standing over there. but i just -- i don't know how
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my children weren't either crushed to death or sucked out. i have no idea. my daughter was across the way and there's a car outside her classroom. there's a car in the classroom next -- he just said there are approximately six cars in the vicinity. >> this car obviously should not be here. >> our parking lot is out front. >> so where did this car come from? >> we have no idea. >> so it got picked up, slammed here. this is the middle of the school k. >> this is the middle of the school. >> how soon after the school pass and you left that bathroom with your kids that you were able to find your kids? >> my kids personally came out right away. my son was standing behind me all of a sudden. i asked him later how did you get out? he said, mrs. biddle helped us out and i believe the p.e. teacher, they had a chain and they were sending the kids out. and -- because you can't walk out of that.
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and my daughter was rescued by her dad and if they would let you see the fourth grade door, all the kids were rescued through a broken window. single window that someone busted out. they were essentially could have been trapped in there and perhaps in a big building maybe that sometimes is the issue. we had somewhat open areas. i don't know if that made us more exposed or fortunate to get out. it feels so haphazard, you know, that it's nothing you can prepare for. >> no matter how many times you drill. >> no matter how many times you drill or you say you're in a cinderblock building. it doesn't matter. >> you don't know where it will hit. >> did you think you might not make it? >> the walls never came in on me and i knew that nothing like this had ever happened at our school before. to me before. i had heard about it. i think at one point i thought
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how is there not going to be loss of life in this building? but again, if i were back here that absolutely -- i would have been convinced that it was my last breaths. i know that a lot of teachers were at one point, you know, -- mrs. sanders my fourth grade daughter's teacher said at first the kids -- she was like, this is going to pass, we're going through procedures, it's been 30 minutes can someone check? the more updates we got, it's coming and brace yourselves and then it was more of a panic that it's coming and she said that she just kept the kids in the corner. and she put her arms around them. and she said that at one point -- she was just praying over them. lord, give us protection. keep us safe. bring us peace. and then when it was over, she had to pass her children out the window. everything caved in. >> that's incredible. >> amazing to think my daughter
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was in that and that she survived. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> it is amazing. joining me is the principal. it's amazing when you see mrs. biddle's class, the one corner where she had the kids hunkered down is the one corner that made it through. incredible that nobody lost life there. >> a miracle. it's a miracle. and truly god's protection over us. and when you look at that footage, just where the kids came out are the places that there was just enough space. i don't know how that happened, you know? >> and the storm is picking up cars and slamming it into the school. >> yes. when i walked out and saw that, i thought whoa. where did they come from? you look at the parking lot, where's all the cars? that's an odd feeling. you can't just get in your car, like i'll drive off now. yeah. i'm really proud of the whole staff there and keeping
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everybody safe. it's heart breaking. i haven't seen that video, so it's -- >> hard to see. >> yeah. >> when -- you went back to the school today, did you? >> yes. we got to take all the teachers back. >> what was that like to go back? >> i got to go back yesterday. we pulled all the permanent records out, so that initial shock of seeing what it looks like and, wow. we came out of that. so i was worried about the teachers to begin with. them all going out there, because the fire and the police were there. so that we could walk in and -- >> right. >> and i worried about them. i kept warning them, you know, just be prepared, this going to be hard to see. when you're leaving that night you're not thinking about what you just came out of or how much space there was. and when you come back in the light of day and you see it, wow, how did we get out of this? >> do you think things will change, and more schools will get shelters here? obviously a lot of people have
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been tweeting me and texting me saying why don't more schools have shelter? that's something you'd like to see. >> oh, yeah. in '99, they put the shelters in there and i was talking to one of the teachers over there. i'm assume that's the same thing that's going to happen here. i know our superintendents are talking with people, trying to get some kind of funding. it has to be important to keep our kids safe. >> that's what it is, a matter of funding. having the political will to get the money for it. i'm so glad everything worked out. >> yeah. yeah. nice to meet you too. you guys are doing a great job. >> i wish you the best of luck in rebuilding. >> thanks. see you later. >> just ahead the loss -- the one family is facing with incredible grace and strength. two young daughters killed in their family. we'll talk to the father of the two children. he wants to talk tonight, because he wants you to know about the little girls he lost. what they were like in life. we also have new video of the
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welcome back. anyone with kids in the room, you might want to tell them to leave the room or look away. we have new video of police taking down a pair of suspects in london. take a look.
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the reason we think it's important to show you as graphic as it is, because you can clearly see one of the alleged killers charging police. then and only then do the police fire. two men are under arrest and there are more arrests as well. nic robertson has the latest from london. so the video we're showing, what's been the reaction to it in london, nic? >> reporter: well, the reaction here is to make people aware -- the police did arrive that they were armed and ready to respond. there was concern the police had taken a long time to get there. but what most people here are concerned about is that the police force are ready to deal with people like this. and i think a lot of people were pleased that the police came and they were able to identify these gunmen. that they were able to see that these attackers, that they were able to see that they were
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coming towards them. and that they took them on. there's a lot of people -- there's a lot of people here that would worry that perhaps the police in britain weren't able to deal with a situation like this. well, now they're relieved that they see that they can. anderson? >> what -- there were two other people taken into custody and what do we know about them? and what do we know about the suspected killers? it wasn't clear if they were british citizens or where they had been born. what do we know? >> one of the suspects 28 years old, a british citizen, but of nigerian descent. he had turned to islam seven or eight years ago. he joined an organization or had gone to rallies with an organization that had a pro al qaeda agenda. the two people arrested today, we don't know their direct connection to the two primary suspects but we know they have been arrested on suspicion of
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conspiracy to murder. both 29 years old. one a man, one a woman. the two main suspects here still being held in hospital. their condition we're told, stable, anderson. >> and i do want to focus on the victim in all of this. lee rigby. what do we know about him now? >> this is a young man, 25 years old. very well respected and liked by his colleagues and his family as well. everyone who's talked about him has said this was a man who would always be quick witted. would always liven up the situation, would always make happy. he had a 2-year-old son named jack. he joined the army in 2006. in 2009 he was deployed to afghanistan on a fire support base there, using artillery, mortars to support troops in field. in 2011, when he came back to britain, he became a recruitment officer at the barracks behind me here.
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question emerging, because he would have had that connection with the public as a recruitment officer, potentially did his attackers, did they know him? did they know his background that he had been to afghanistan? those are questions open at the moment. >> thanks. on the terror front, some good news in the wake of the boston marathon bombing. we want to tell you about 7-year-old jane richard, one of the youngest victims. was discharged today from boston hospital. she was there for 39 days, she's had 12 surgeries. she lost her left leg below the knee. she just started irish dancing and she wants to dance again. we have been following her story closely. i talked to a great paramedic named matt patterson who helped save her life. her 8-year-old brother was killed in the attack. the richards said that jane has been moved to a rehab facility. they say she is in good spirits. they also said they'll remain -- well, they remain obviously
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devastated over martin's death, but they'll have a mass in his memory on june 9th which would have been his 9th birthday. a lot more happening in the world tonight. i want to check in with isha with the 360 bulletin. >> anderson, breaking news in the jodi arias hung jury. late word that jurors who were deciding whether she lives or dies hung 8-4. hung 8-4 in favor of death. other news now, in the first major counterterrorism speech of the second term, president obama defended his administration's use of controversial drone strikes abroad and outlined new restrictions on the use. president obama also said he'd resume steps to close the u.s. prison at guantanamo bay. more fallout at the internal revenue service. lois learner, the head of the unit targeting conservative groups has been placed on administrative leave. it comes a day after she testified before the house oversight committee. she told the committee she had
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not broken any laws and then she took the fifth. the boy scouts of america voted to end the long-standing ban on openly gay members. the new policy takes effect on january 1st. however, the boy scouts ban on guy adult leaders still stands. still some work to be done, say the advocates. >> isha, thanks very much. just ahead, it's unthinkable in a time like this, but scammers swooping in on oklahoma to take advantage of shell-shocked sur shell-shocked survivors. and plus, a father's brave effort to stay strong while mourning his two daughters' death.
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we have seen a real outpouring of compassion and kindness from people here. volunteers from all over the state coming to help clean up. we have seen that really since the storm stopped. but oklahoma's attorney general is warning though about business scams and price gouging in the wake of this disaster.
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aaron mcpike joins me now. what have you been hearing? >> well, spoke to the state's attorney general office and they have gotten about ten complaints of price gouging. one of those with a hotel that down -- doubled the room rate. now an inspector got them to bring down their prices. another gas station actually raised the price of a gallon of gas by a dollar. but this is against the law in this state. they passed a law after the may 3, 1999, tornado because they were having some of the same problems and businesses in the area can't raise their rates beyond 10% for the next 30 days. repair and remodeling services can't raise their rates more than 10% for the next six months as people are trying to repair their houses. >> one of the things i remember in the wake of hurricane katrina, people were coming into the neighborhoods saying they were there to help and charging exorbitant fees or saying they would do -- they were contractors and getting money up front and then disappearing. >> yeah. and they call those travelers and they pose as volunteers and do that very thing.
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now, this state, state inspectors are already being proactive about this. they drive around in pickup trucks. we're told pretty flashy. usually had out of state plate, but now state inspectors are going to hotels and taking pictures of the pickup trucks that they can show to victims if they have problems with the very thing. >> something that law enforcement will be on the lookout for. because there are law enforcement around here directing traffic and the like. >> they have been. the day after the tornado i had a problem trying the get in here because law enforcement was so protective of keeping people out and looters especially. they were worried about. >> certainly a good thing. erin, appreciate it. thanks for the reporting. there is a lot more to tell you about here. many homes and buildings in this part of the country don't have, you know, formal storm shelters and in "american journey" a company that's trying to change that. here is tom foreman. >> reporter: in the wake of the oklahoma twisters, some have been raising their voices high insisting this storm ought to spur a movement for more people
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to put in storm shelters. from wichita, kansas, the pba architect sell an assortment of model, many of which look like normal rooms and there cory sees his work as more than a business, it's a mission. >> after the fact it's too late. this is something you plan for, that you get in. that you get in place. and then you use it and use it correctly. and then i think it can save lives across the country. >> reporter: storm shelters have been around for generations. famously featured in "the wizard of oz." but modern shelters are an entirely different matter. many companies now offer a variety of steel and concrete structures for above and below ground. boasting an array of extra security measures and strengths. >> each one of these anchor bolts has a 10,000 pound sheer strength. so by putting one every foot around here, it can more than
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withstand any storm. >> reporter: the challenge has always been economics. even simple storm shelters can cost several thousand dollars and as bad as these storms can be, even in the most tornado-prone areas odds are most homes will never be hit. >> it's about the money and the statistics. an ef-5 tornado is very rare, 1% to 2% of the tornadoes. >> reporter: still proponents look at the plaza towers elementary school in oklahoma, the december estimated houses and they stand firm. >> nobody can talk to me and talk me out of the shelters are worth it, because i know they are. we're saving lives. >> reporter: tom foreman, cnn. they're among the youngest victim killed and we're trying to tell you their stories. a pair of sister, one 7 months old, one 4 years old. their dad joins us because he wants to tell you about his little girls who were lost.
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practiced, and they knew how to climb into the bathtub. but when this tornado took direct aim at their house there wasn't much they could do. sydnee and karrina died and the two oldest children and the father were not home at the time. i spoke with phillip vargyas earlier. i'm so sorry for your loss. >> thank you, i appreciate it. >> how are you doing, how are you standing? >> basically, i've got a lot of things that i have to do in order to rebuild some semblance of a normal life for my family. and i think that's kind of what's driving me. kind of that mental to do list that needs to be done. my wife and my mother-in-law were in there with my babies and i wouldn't ask them to do anything other than heal at this point. and i know that i have got a lot of grieving to do, but there's a lot that needs to be done and i
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need to move through that. my wife has been supportive. >> your 4-year-old karrina wanted to be an ice skater. >> yes, we took her to disney on ice at the last state fair here in oklahoma. and ever since she saw her favorite princesses out there skating, she wanted to go out and skate just like them. i always tell my kids you have to do at least one thing outside of school and ice skating was what she wanted to do. unfortunately, we didn't get the opportunity to take her ice skating before this has happened. but we'll take her one day. she'll be there next time we go. >> you'll go with your wife. >> when we take the kids and my wife we'll know she is there with us. >> and 7-month-old sydnee was born here in oklahoma. >> yeah, i liked to call her my okie child. i had several in california and one here in washington, but they
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weren't born here in oklahoma. >> she just started crawling. >> she crawled for first final on sunday. >> the day before the storm. >> yeah, being the only okie i guess it's fitting that you crawl before the tornado. and unfortunately she was taken from me on monday. so -- at least we have that lasting memory. i got to see her crawl before she was taken. >> and how are your other kids doing? >> they're doing surprisingly well. my 11-year-old son, damon and my 8-year-old daughter, they're carrying on as if it's a normal life and that's good. i mean, we discussed what has happened. i believe in full disclosure. so we discussed what has happened to their sisters. >> they're 11 and 9. >> no, 11 and 8, and i discussed everything with them. me and my wife did. we hugged and we dealt with that. kids are resilient. as soon as that warm embrace was over and those tears had been shed, they went to terrorizing the hospital for as long as they could.
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so i think they're doing okay, at least. >> how is your wife? how is her condition? >> she's doing good. she sustained a couple of lacerations which is not bad considering what i saw at ground zero where she should have been according to where -- how we did our tornado drill. >> she actually was picked up by the storm. >> right. and i didn't know that until yesterday morning. i had spoken with her and she finally had some clarity. we had some time to talk and she told me that after she had landed, she sat up and looked around and had seen her mom who was in there with her and wasn't sure if she had made it, but she had started her search for the girls. daze and confused. you landed and that's when it came to realization she was actually picked up by the force of the storm. so i couldn't imagine what she had seen. and that's the reason i'm here, doing a lot of what i'm doing, so she can heal, both mentally and physically. >> is it going to be a long recovery for her in terms of
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physically? >> she was released from the hospital today. she's in good condition. she's sore. she had some lacerations, but other than that, physically she is okay. >> where do you go from here? >> to be honest with you, from here we're still making decisions. believe it or not we want to stay as close to the community we were at when this happened. my family has a lot of roots here, and i believe in order for my kids to successfully make it through this we have to make the transition as seamless as possible. the best way to do that is to keep them surrounded by the things they know most, whether it's friends, family, youth, athletics, things like that. my wife is on board with that. so we're -- we actually plan on re-establishing our roots here in moore despite the disaster. >> and you had -- it was karrina's birthday coming up. >> correct. it was coming up june 13th. she would have been 5 years old in about two weeks or so. and my grandmother had actually mentioned that she had her birthday presents still in the closet. she was going to be mailing them
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out soon. that's tragedy all around. it's a bad situation. but we're fighting. >> sorry for your loss. >> i appreciate that. i really do. >> our thoughts and our prayers are with you and your family. thank you for telling us about your daughters. >> appreciate it. we've got some more breaking news right now. some preliminary reporting coming in of a bridge collapse in washington state. now, the state police telling our seattle affiliate king-5 that a bridge on interstate 5 over the river north of seattle has come down. at least two cars with people inside are in the river. i-5 is the major north/south interstate running to the canadian border. we're trying to gather more information. be right back. ...but you still have to go to the gym. ♪ the one and only, cheerios ♪ the one and only, cheerios
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