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press, i would be curious to hear each one of your perspectives on what you view to be the biggest deficiency with regard to the plan that we will vote on today. >> i guess i would say the plan that the president has put forward to deal with isil, i assume that is what you were referring to, is a strong plan in many respects. we've got to work with an international coalition. we have got to work to support the efforts made by the new iraqi government and we've got to take the fight directly to isil. ..
engagement but not at the end of the day impacting the harm to the united states is there one thing you think would impact the terrorism threat to the united states around the world and what would be the of primary weakness or that center of gravity? to impact the outcome? >> let me answer the question in this way from 98 just experience, it is important that in our efforts to not enable the enemy to recruit faster than we can capture or kill. so along with the efforts of the military and the partners overseas there has
to be an effort to counter the propaganda with those violent extremist threats as pointed out by members of this committee the groups in the current a jar good as a propaganda and recruitment to not recruit somebody to indoctrinate them. i am of focused on hitting counter terrorism at home and we are focused on counteracting the literature and propaganda the notion isil is the islamic state. is false it is murderers and kidnappers to commit genocide. those who have captured the world's attention right now.
i think i address the promise of the question it has to be a comprehensive effort. >> i am down to 30 seconds. i will skip ahead. given the testimony of roughly 6 percent operational control, why not make an simply build a fence? why not simply build a fence? quick thoughts? >>. >> i have the past. >> first of all, what we do on the southern border depend on large part of the resources congress is
willing to give us. >> wedding is the recommendation? >> the most effective the efficient use of our resources is a risk based strategy. i do not believe building across the entire southwest border is the appropriate use of taxpayer dollars. if i build a 15-foot wall somebody will build the 16-foot ladder. we have the technology in place. >> maybe but it would certainly not to allow school age children to walk up to officers to hand themselves over. >> very definitely the situation we faced this summer that the kids wanted to get caught. when you deal with that kind of situation.
fnma a stepped up the ability to engage in the public message seeing campaign about the hazards of doing that. when we go down that road we need a partner in congress. we ask for money to help pay for the efforts to step up border security and we did not get help. >> i have burned through my time. to be continued. >> mr. richmond? >> those who played the great part to protect but let me just ask i have heard it said before it is what
keeps us up at night especially with the homegrown terrorists that cybersecurity could be somebody's sitting in the basement trying to reach have it. we know what we do in terms of chemical facilities that they are equipped to deal with those kinds of things but we also have a number of shipping companies at at its peak has millions of barrels of oil a day. how confident are way we communicate enough for state police and local police and wildlife fisheries to make
sure our facilities offshore that connect are covered? and also embedded is to make sure intelligence sharing is there that state and local police have done what they needed to have the clearance. to. >> going back to what the director said i would be in a position to share more with state and local partners in terms of classified information. once they have a security clearance and a background check is in our interest that we do that. in the nine months we have been in office with the level of cooperation we get from state and local law enforcement the relationships are better than others. i also visited a number of
ports. i have been to the coast guard station in new orleans i don't know if i have been to the commercial ports but i have been impressed with the level of cooperation with authorities. we have to keep at -- at its port security is one of my priorities while in office. >> talking about resources with a question from my colleagues but what resources that we could provide local governments to help with homeland security? the then to do things of that nature. >> give brings in over
9 million visitors a year. but outside the port assets could be very valuable. and to assist local police departments to make the country more save the specialty at the time. >> that principal theme is that activity. through grants we fund a number of different programs, training, and the ability to provide equipment for homeland security. grants is the of principal means to do that something
that we are looking into. and is that appropriate levels? >> just days late request with your intelligence sharing to go hand in hand with the ability and competence to do a great job let you do you cannot be successful if the local police departments are not focused or call the ted doing what they do. but to say that the police department is lacking in areas to make your areas of unsafe? but to make sure that they
are focused on aunt been to give them that extra push. can you provide us that information? >>. >> we don't focus on that. we need resources and the answer is we don't think so. >> we just try to fix the of problems in the field. from my vantage point with the state and local law enforcement but it is our best line of defense against
any homegrown attack. >> thank you for your questions. if uc law-enforcement sheaves don't get it let me know. thank you. >> i will thank of witnesses for being here today with a great oversight hearing. event then it speaks volumes with your presence here today being ushered in with the fbi and vhs. that is always the best formula. but the leadership to be here today.
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ranking member to move forward with his opening statement first then i will have my opening statement as chairman of the committee and ask my colleagues for short opening statements as well. >> ag for holding this timely and important hearing. also our steamed witnesses and i am pleased you are able to do this. babylon history in massachusetts say happy to see his legacy move on. today it is relevant given the proximity to europe with the conflict zone. and for those terrorist
gangs coming into the united states. these tools are cheap and effective to have plentiful resources. for this reason the nexus to focus on various facets of recruitment and communications strategies. this is a problem for decades. of course, we need the cooperation of the transatlantic partners the national counterterrorism center with 12,000 individuals in that figure includes will over 1,000 european citizens. the other estimates from our allies overseas expect the numbers to be even higher.
the barometer may come we must continue to work closely with our partners and the other intelligence agencies. and then traveling to the midday -- the mideast. information sharing will be put to the test as they courtney and respond across international boundaries. so i will continue to be a strong advocate to incorporate local law enforcement to utilize the of multiplier effect. headed is the mindset and the recruitment of these militants to go on and rape and kill. as the trans-atlantic
community we can only fight terrorism by devising countermeasures. in particular the message promoted by heritage and the cultural history is important to help young people find their true identities with that backwards propaganda to destroy the history. and i think it is important for our partners of the fight for those that impacted and affected for what they can do are they protecting those from being coerced? a true partner to confront radicalism would only do what they could do to take
place abroad but is zero tolerance for extremism to go unchecked at home as well these are important questions with evaluating the capabilities that in most cases are prone to a tax more than we are. the radicalization occurs across the world in rural and urban settings, will the import of all educational levels. is a the long run the course of action is not only targeting terrorist groups but the polarizing policy that leads the division. the conversation must include both genders for donnelly men that take up arms but women within isil and other groups. they are growing up in the increasingly environment and
this law have any effect on future generations. the subject of today's hearing is the of the utmost concern to national security and accord to period from each of the witnesses. with that i take the chairman and i yield back. >> the hearing is on the emerging threat and the specific threats to europe and the united states as well. in 2011 the syrian people rose up against their government it has been torn apart this is an open and civil war with the terrorist groups with al qaeda taking
full advantage of the chaos. with 50,000 foreign fighters entering syria to take up arms on this fight after several thousand of those fighters came from europe to hold passports from european countries and called isil and hate is a brutal anti-western terrorist organization that has grown over up fast territory of syria and iraq. facing a terrorist group to control the and a and proven abilities on the battlefield. it is also one of the richest terrorist groups in the of world that profit from criminal activity and
black market whale sales and of course, the a gift of vast amounts of military equipment that we have generously provided iraq. this is dave macon million dollar operation. it is a nightmare to think about to pull off the financial resources with so many recruits. and all we need to know about the intentions so the
terrorist holding the knife with the be heading videos spoke in a british accent. that 898 -- indicates the magnitude. we have already begin to see the threat of terrorism and yemen born naturalized citizens and was indicted to attempting to provide support to isil in new york state. dozens of people have been arrested this week for those planning to a isil planning terrorist attacks in the west. perhaps it is a little too soft we need to understand what a terrorist attack in
the west means for the bodies of tearing apart of the bodies for those who just want to live their lives in this group of other human beings for whatever reason they have will at random murder our fellow citizens and to talk about what motive to terrorize western civilization was a huge section of the globe. bantus travel touche syria those them brussels the victims are ordinary people.
i don't know why of that message of hate and violence attracts what are the of viable options to prevent terrorist are returning home? and how can we prevent them and conducting this type of horrible murder upon innocent people? and to work with european allies in to go against russia to defend ourselves and finally let me note that to learn from europe's
immigration experience talk about reforming our own laws. this problem is not only counter terrorist but how different people can fit together in a free society. we have a lot to cover. so with schatz the raking member has already been heard from. >> thank you mr. chairman. isis is the threat we need to understand has to be reckoned with. especially the united states under estimates like those terrorist groups to set up governance and northern iraq and syria to tax the people they have oil and money and as you said they have
american and the equipment already. for those to train them and of first that cut and ran. they just threw down some weapons into cough ramroding. know here is a tank that was given by the united states but they bailed now isis controls a take belonging to the american citizens. here is the beret after capturing humvees and abandoned by the iraqis that we subsidized. and at the bottom the most alarming for humvees american made given to the iraqi troops to fight isis after they cut and ran they were abandoned now it is on a truck headed to syria to
fight in syria i think we underestimate who these people are. fighters are already coming back to europe to launch an attack and german -- jeb may lead its first attack. and how cameron said last week there are space six planned terrorist attacks and the threat will not stay in a near up the cat -- europe because many individuals are able to travel to the u.s.. we have to work with european friends to track the jihad is fighting and convince them that this is a group to be reckoned with as the threat to all civilized people they cannot be allowed to read turn home to continue jihad. i have introduced a foreign
terrorist organization passport revocation enact for this purpose it calls for the state department to revoke passports for those that are fighters for any foreign terrorist organization or support them in the way. american citizens are traitors and are not welcome back to the u.s. and with that i yield back. >> thank you very much. this is an important topic in the level is going on radical terrorist groups grow around the world would be wise and prudent to address that we heard reports of sayings happening. think of the boston marathon bombing. that is unacceptable.
is lew of what goes on in the middle east talking about isil they said they are coming to america we have to pay attention and not allow that to happen to have to be dealt with and we need to do more to secure our borders. i'd like to hear more ideas from you. and in addition. it is called the terrorists nationality act. that will strip citizenship away from people in to pick up arms against american citizens or military. so what to make the country safer i yield back.
>> a senior fellow with the foundation for defense democracy and a senior editor of course, of a publication that tracks counterterrorism of issues is a widely respected expert at al qaeda and other groups around the world and contributes often to "the weekly standard" and makes guest appearances on television and radio and has appeared before other foreign affairs committee hearings and real pleased to welcome him to this subcommittee. also we have the fellow at
the kennedy school of government at harvard university appointed 2009 as a first-ever special representative to the muslim communities by secretary of state clinton. she worked in that capacity to communicate with muslim communities around the world on behalf of united states government. for her achievement she was awarded the distinguished honor award in 2013 prior to the appointment she held senior positions for international development and the state department with euro asian affairs to work as the director of middle east initiatives for the national security council. she has a master's degree from diplomacy at tavis university.
first we will hear from? is a tossup. >> good morning. they give for inviting me here today. mr. chairman and members of the subcommittee on european and eurasian and the threat to europe is my honor and pleasure to be here for this important and timely sharing. of a senior fellow at the kennedy school of the government at harvard university my opinions written and verbal testimony are my own. i come before you today to talk about the fighters returning to europe and what the united states could and should be doing as a political appointee. and especially europe.
and with that complex process that they prey on young muslims and to threaten stability replied. and to explain what i had seen to win the ideological war against extremism. i firmly believe we can win. i know firsthand of the men and women serving our nation with commitment and steadfast determination to keep us safe from harm. i am honored to work with them and for them i also know the respect all presidents have for all faiths. both administrations have openly said that he this act represents the religion. my interest and involvement in the issue is not typical being involved in the h. w.
bush administration it was there in 1993 and focus on national security and awarded of grant during the delicate and unstable time. and to understand that power of ideology and a way of life. i felt called to serve after graduate school after 9/11. al qaeda would define my country and religion i could not sit back and watch. for more than a decade i have worked on the history of the impact of muslims. during my tenure in that conflict with isis broke out of the founders also prepared that something that happened in copenhagen could have any effect.
then assistant secretary for eurasian affairs asked me to serve as a senior adviser to focus solely on muslims in europe than recalibrate the way we engage with muslims our country never had that position and the ambassador understand how vital it was be reached at to gain an understanding of their diversity and analyze the impact on them of the extremist narrative. for two years i travelled across europe to know what is happening within communities between generations to push back for past breaking initiatives opposed by the extremist these initiatives was in muslim communities and by partnering with them could help to wield greater influence.
several of love these initiatives continue to operate today independent u.s. government. from those thousands of conversations to have the identity crisis. and filling that intellectual vacuum and governments were ill-equipped as a similar dynamic continues to unfold before our eyes with even more gruesome implications. in order for isil or other extremist organizations to persuade someone to joint they must be able to appeal emotionally to a young person eager for a meeting and a sense of belonging to one to make five points on one american it could do to
fight back yesterday we saw a report that an austrian teenage girl who'd joined isil is pregnant it the male recruits is the important changes the landscape. policymakers should be concerned not just those the leave their home countries to fight but that ideology that will spread among those left behind. third. european civilization does not construct a national identities in a uniform way as a result we must be new ones in our approaches. forth. we can win the ideological war with extremism by investing significantly in soft power. fifth free borders in europe today represent the whole story. keeping the cycle of hatred turning by free ideas to
feat of more virtual -- virtuous cycle but comprehensive attention we could change the patterns of discourse within the community with positive consequences for europe and united states and allies. the ideology is the greatest threat of our time. but to be digitally connected to address that ideological threat head on this is winnable. if we act proactively. thank you again for the opportunities. >>. >> i'm sure we will have some serious questions for you now we have the next witness. senior fellow for defense democracies you may proceed.
>> faq for having me here today to talk about this issue we have been tracking for and fighters to go to syria for awhile now. it is betting that today we have more foreign fighters in serious and afghanistan. that is the incredible metric and it creates all sorts of security challenges. and then the possibility to use terrorist attacks that most of them will not come back hallway but will invest in the iraqi and syria. they can become partners to dispelled the mythologies of
a grandiose quest to serve our messengers that people going off to fight in syria is not what it pretends to be. but as foreign fighters increases for shooting at the museum in brussels where we don't know if he was under correction but it is the serious threat. somebody known as the psychopath for those individuals traveling around. he had been a identified in 2013 that we have that sort of threat. we have the more nuanced one thinking about to create an
11 between 10 and 20,000 what al qaeda was doing was trying to identify the most talented and dedicated groups to report this. that gave us the trial from germany and afghanistan. they were committed and skilled to fly planes in two buildings but those recruits actually wanted jihad against the russian government and not recruited originally for the u.s. but this is how jihad could be repurchased very quickly. but the skilled professional terrorist it is not against us.
but the consensus seems to me they cannot plan at the moment. but i will pause on that. but these threats seibald very quickly going from of a regional security was basically a nine or 10 months. there is a lot we don't know we did not know that muhammed was the al qaeda operative several months after that 11. it worries me what we don't know just because we don't take they have the ability does not mean they cannot in the near future. but finally everybody is concerned about isil watching iran goes through to the nation states but i have a slightly different view but the greater near
term threats is the al qaeda operatives carter very rude about catastrophic attacks against us they were embedded with that branch of al qaeda and is a rival of isil today. this is how complicated as it comes from multiple directions. you have skilled operatives dispatched to syria. they're carefully sorting through the piles like something along those lines. that is the bigger year term concern. and to be deeply imbedded in an insurgency very popular and realize just today there is a big vote on funding to
trade the rebels the my caveat is hal they act they are not isil but yet they are al qaeda and oppose suicide? is that complicated game and i don't hear a lot of discussion about that. this is just my own be careful how we do it. finally back to your point of the recruits traveling there was the suicide bomber he managed to travel to and from his home in florida from syria as he was indoctrinated to blow himself up in syria. they decided not to try to use it and did the attack against the u.s. but they learned how he got in and
out of the country that is how we should take about that. thank you. >> 84 that testimony. i will yield to the ranking member. >> they give both for your testimony. the perception of ideology of how they carry things out that was very clear in both testaverde and i appreciate that but to focus the shared commitment to strengthen women's rates globally. in transitional society such as iraq and part of that is ideological flourishing is
occurring within families. the chairman and myself held a hearing on the importance of women to battle violent extremism. and you mentioned about sisters against violence that women are the first educators of the children and a unique position to spot radicalization and extremism and also in a pivotal position to try to deal with it. we have to empower women to recognize this a give the tools how to deal with that but it could you comment on that overall effort to use with it more effectively to quash this ideological
thought? >> i talk a lot about the ideology i don't have to explain how important family is that the young person grows up the millenials are experiencing something no other generation has experienced it in the coat -- the context of post 9/11 1/4 of the planet? 1.6 billion people, the 62% is under the age of 30. they have grown up looking at the life in a different way. everybody has the ditty crisis but something is happening to that generation asking questions that their parents and grandparents did not ask. as they look for this sense of identity answers they
always go to our not necessarily traditional it is not the older person in the village or the town but it is then shake we answer the lot of the questions for them. why women are important they are that of mothers first teachers if you look at that policy mothers talk about what they have seen that there is another piece of this bet how you use women to mobilize their perspective globally. that is where we begin to look at a model that would work at local level and
inspired by a regular people. in the bush administration reluct at trump driving to say how did that get off the ground? what would happen if we began to build a network of like-minded women you could push back against violent to extremism in to give her a small grant to get this off the ground now all these years later is the independent organization added chapter level that has mobilized within to push back and talk about to put the lessons you learned on the table. yet there is what is happening to muslim women.
>> that was my second question. >> it my role as special representative the what i thought had have been did europe was not just minorities but majority countries as well. so this idea from malaysia to argentina led matter to us. -- led matter to as. that does not leave with it out of the picture. they are connected with the movement of their speaker to i see a special representative? i see a change in the way this generation of women began to take about themselves so you see a lot of -- see a two-pronged
issue to stop the radicalization. the other point is we begin to see women getting radicalized. steve lecter is the irony there. anything but that level of authority and power by ec isil use these groups the then soldiers but social networking and communication to shape people's ideology where the average age is 25 years old. so just continue that is the second point i wanted to make. >> you are correct. they're beginning to be mothers themselves in raising their children in a particular way.
to be gauged with the outside or retreat. so you look at said datapoint is -- at the data points. it does not take a lot of imagination. this summer we have others doing the same vein if we use our imagination and it is very scary. >> but the point even in the boston marathon bombing what his mother had on his radicalization i will not comment because of the trial pending but i will say clearly but i yield back. >> thank you for your thoughtful questioning.
>> mr. chairman we thank you for your testimony and i thank you are right. we see this happen now. most radicals don't come back. we know there was only 19 and 500,000 but they could change quickly now we have these organizations that are more coal last to the radical groups will organized and well funded with isil getting 3.$5 million per day in the single -- sale of oil on the black market. . .
we are seeing now. as you brought out the person for florida and the person from minnesota going over and becoming radical jihad, we have to have always -- and this goes back to a bigger problem with our immigration policy. i think that we are all -- we all want responsible immigration, but we have to do it right to bring people over here. but going back to the isil threat, removing the path from these people to get passports from these people, we remove these passports -- i lost my train of thought here. the european allies defend themselves from the threat of these depending foreign fighters a western passport. they can go over there and come back. they are a u.s. citizen, and i think britain has started to take these passports away. is that right? >> britain has a number of
security restrictions to put in place. >> okay. with that i am going to yield back. mr. chairman, i appreciate your time. >> thank you very much. a couple of questions. are these the uneducated -- overseas, are these the uneducated people of lower class is it cannot get jobs? or are they from the upper crust who are actually very well-educated and not necessarily just a product as a fifth not just schools but instead people conclude that their choices and had made -- have made the choice that their religion is better than everything else. >> is not easy to typify in that
regard. you look at a common example of the suicide pilots on 9/11, highly educated, come from good families. you find this over and over and over again. is the strength of the ideology cannot necessarily any socioeconomic factors. >> let me know before we move on that it is vitally important that we do not try to lump all muslims into the category of terrorists, otherwise we are doing exactly what the terrorists want us to do, which is create a dichotomy between the western world and all muslims and thus expand dramatically their strength and potential danger. so we should make sure we reach out. again, this is -- you were
talking about the muslim community in the crisis going on with different people. do you think that there is a threat to that we could have an overreach year and push muslims and to the radical terrorism can't? do you see that happening at all ? >> one of the things that is important for us to understand is why we have learned over 13 years to look at the radicalization process. what government and communities can do. the strengths and weaknesses have played out over the course of 13 years did you ask a really important question about thought to are these people, how well educated, where they come from. one of the things i was talking about in my testimony is the nuanced approach to understand the distinction within certainly -- here today we are talking about europe.
which generation are we talking about, which at this cities, how are they looking at the particular issues that there dealing with. the success is going to come from the community level. if you look at the responses across europe and our governments are looking at the threat they're is a wide range of reaction to this growing problem. but when you are looking at the scoreboard, the distance, opportunities for recruitment, we have to start with the immediate family, the communities, and make sure that the communities are getting information about what we have learned, looking very deep at all of these issues and not sort of separating the immediate. >> i will have to say, the world has faced many different challenges from a murderous groups over the history of the planet. muslim extremism or i should say
, i know a lot -- the word is law, a lot of us are having trouble with that. want to be respectful of their fate but cannot help but notice that the people who are murdering people are doing so in the name of their faith. and it really pulls on a lot of us because we know it -- i mean, i know many muslim people who are wonderful people and would never dream of it. i do not think their fate is doing anything but adding to their life. obviously those people we fear now are identified with the islamic muslim face, the motivator that has motivated them to do that. they are announcing it to the world. i am not sure. listening to your testimony, you know, 50 years ago and 60 years ago the oil world was threatened
by these the nazis who had no muslim connection at all who were basically from a christian company of -- country and japanese militarism which had its own -- you could identify addition to religion that they were a part of that glorified the ancestors especially who were very militarily successful. you could see that direct line, but to be fair about i do not think that the greatest generation in the united states spent time trying to psychoanalyze my people became not cease or why people often live the people of japan backed up their military swing. we went out and had to defeat them and that is where we are now. we want to understand, as you were sitting in offices and into
decent were involved with the medical to resolve fifth respecting the fact that most muslims are not that way. but the job now is not some long-term analyst cut instead fifth to try to defeat it this evil forces that would murder our families. >> and the threats that allen's as fixed and vincent pointed out fifth to ideological with sandals and all five of the country's fifth case seriously thought of the ideal of peace. be investigated if it, hard and soft power to defeat death if we have not done that mouth
vantage of the situation. we have challenged our fellow americans who are muslims to join us and help us win this battle because, as we are learning today, it is -- what is happening in syria, there will be a wave that hits us here in the united states and is already beginning to be felt in europe. let me ask about their share threat that we have with our european allies. do we not also share this threat is? and mentioned this in my opening statement. do we not share this threat with russia? should we not cooperate with russia? i actually went to moscow and met with their intelligence operatives and got a briefing on those peoples who were involved with the bombing of the
boston marathon. >> i will preface this by saying there are a lot of ways in which our interest and russia is divergent. but, you know, to your point, when you study who is in serious right now, the chechen jihad, these are not freedom fighters, deeply opposed to the russian government to my very much on either side of isil corporation al qaeda in syria. this hearing is happening because of the isil military gains on the ground in iraq and syria. while the top military commanders in syria is a chechen for isil. he is actually the one who really gave them the military victory in eastern syria which has opened up the pathway into iraq. really the most committed skilled and oftentimes tacticians. they are a threat to russia, our interest. their is a common threat to. one of the interesting
things we are talking about the radicalization of women, one of the biggest examples is that chechen black widows , the widows of fallen jihad who go on to become suicide bombers and operations. so there is a common bond in that one, narrow sense in terms of the threat. >> would you like to add to that? >> thank you, mr. chairman. i wanted to say that you made a very good points about the push back against the ideology of extremists. what you are seeing over the last 13 years since 9/11 is the increase of forces pushing back coming from muslim communities. and you are seeing new networks of former extremists that have been built to push back, but that needs to be wrapped up. those are the voices that matter, the credible voices. to your point about russia and the black widow example that my colleague has just raised, that, to me, is a
illustration of the worst case scenario. what we ought to be looking at is not the tip of the iceberg of what is percolating. what is happening to get in there. that is where we have to stand pat their radicalization process. if we do not we will not. >> i cannot understand why they really just extremist group that appears on the surface to be so anti freedom for women and so compressive saying that women have to where i garment and hide themselves can't have regular jobs. i cannot comprehend how there would be women joining the ranks of people who held those believes in order to try to create a society
space upon those standards perritt -- x army, some to it because they are so invested death in the ideology of building a so-called caliphate. there are many reasons why, but their sense of belonging in terms of where they are, if you look at the two law who ran away from home to join chechens' how these, this is an illustration of the kind of things that are happening. grew up in an open and free environment. how did they get radicalized
? and so the last point i would say is the other role that women are playing is the enticement role. someone on the other end of a u-2 video or chat room that is eager to bring women on board very persuasive. >> major challenge and not just for democrats or republicans but uniting one challenge but people of various religious faiths, including muslim community and christian community and jewish community here in the united states and elsewhere. we need to have some unity behind this to help save mankind from this senseless murder of innocent people. when you talk about people being terrace, their purpose is to terrorize.
that means to win the battle through terrorizing a population to letting them achieve their goals through that sarah. we americans are not going to be terrorized into giving up our rights and freedom and ability to be part of the world. i think that we need to stand with our european allies and our allies in the muslim world who are being killed and murdered at a much higher rate. a closing statement? >> thank you, mr. chairman. i think what was interesting with this hearing among many things was how we were dealing with how this radicalization occurs, the steming of it, however is nurtured. think we do not put enough emphasis on that. we are going to have to. we have to do it in europe
and we have to do it safely through the mideast. i look at the examples of what they're doing and how sophisticated they are doing things, they are actually making great efforts, radicalized groups associated with al qaeda to this dry muslim history, not just orally, but actually through the discussion of artifacts and the destruction of antiquities and profiting from the sale of those. they are destroying, creating a new narrative that is not historical, traditional, religious. we touched on that and go forward. i think that is something we should put greater emphasis on. want to thank our to witnesses for touching on those things today in their testimony. >> thank you. >> thank you, mr. chairman.
thank you both. as we are talking about -- and i am sure you have read the book by samuel huntington talking about the majority of the conflict in the world is muslim to muslim. they come together and we become a common enemy. how much of the growth of radicalism comes from the hatred of the west's ideals of liberty and freedom versus the western foreign policy, or are they connected in your opinion? >> i will say, the ideology is deeply anti-western. a lot of times a few our foreign-policy through a conspiratorial lens which does not reflect reality. on the side of moslems during the conflict in the 1990's, osama bin lawn was able to nationalize critiques of u.s. policy because we did not deliver arms to force is quick enough. more ideological. foreign policy driven.
>> weren't they australian background, born there, of muslim descent? >> it was austria. i believe that they were born there. >> the lone wolf starting to develop in this country like that who had supposedly murdered for american men in the name of jihad against the west but we just of want to see that over here. we look forward to dealing with you in the future. design policies that prevent this. thank you both. have a great weekend. >> i want to think the witnesses and my fellow colleagues. the american people need to know that we are taking this very seriously and that there is a threat that is emerging with this battle
that is waging in syria. it will impact our society and our safety. we have to pay attention to it. the people in europe are now beginning to experience those people coming back from this conflict. we will experience as well the way that it will hit us, and it is -- what we do about it, we have to use our heads and the courageous. again, we need to make sure that all americans, including muslim americans are recruited in this effort . so i want to think the witnesses, and this hearing is adjourned.
[inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> tonight on our companion network it c-span a debate in the arkansas governor's race, to former congressman debate in little rock. you can see it live on c-span at 8:00 p.m. eastern. and at 10:00 p.m. the texas governor's debate between republican attorney general greg gabba and democratic state senator wendy davis. right now here is a look about some of that tv ads in that race.
>> every week businesses leave california to escape high taxes and strangling regulation. they come to texas because we keep taxes low and regulations reasonable. i am greg added. my job's plan will build on it, control state spending, unleash and keep taxes low so that small business can grow. together we will keep texas' number one in jobs. >> in the that texas court room greg abbott made the case against children. he fought for $5 billion in cuts to education made by his insider buddies. now he is proposing to give a standardized tests to 4- year-old spirit wendy davis will reduce the number of standardized tests artistic across the board, cut bureaucratic waste and build an economy for all
hard-working texans. you decide who will be best for texas. >> the texas governor's debate with democratic state senator wendy davis and republican attorney general greg abbott is tonight at 10:00 on c-span. and live tomorrow night on c-span iowa governor debates his democratic challenger, state senator jack hatch live from burlington, iowa tomorrow 98:00 eastern. >> the democratic national committee is hosting its annual women's forum. vice-president joe biden addressed the gathering today and talked about his role in passing the violence against women act 20 years ago. his remarks are about a half-hour. as south [applause] >> by god.
death kind it with it is good to be back with you all. you know, it is true that we have been friends a long time. i have, as has been pointed out, i have been around for a long time. i have worked with a lot of great chairpersons of the democratic party. you know, i have -- and i mean it worked with, campaigned for thousands of candid it's over the years literally. and i have never seen anybody work as hard as tirelessly as did the. by the length, if we want anybody to do that 60
seconds or 120 seconds we get to respond to some attack on the president or the administration of the best person is always deadbeat. she is up there. [applause] and so it is great to work with her. the province of his fifth being close to her she did not even ask. she just tells me where to go and what to do. she is left of the sister earth. those of the hood of my sister that i deliver she tells him. luftwaffe of south five can not begin without talking about send the and carrot. [applause] it looks like there are a lot of people here. and when you started this it was a lot smaller robbed. the tables were a lot
smaller. you set out to make sure it got bigger and make sure that at that table there were as many women as men. he set out to make sure that things changed. the truth of the matter is, i see a lot of old friends out there and some new friends. we have been through an awful lot all lot of fights and quite frankly we have won most of them. not always the first time we engaged. it is because of how you have changed the party, how you have changed the party. because we have to five we don't just have activists in the party. we have world and national leaders in albany and who are so engaged in using their influence in ways that
aren't powerful of death to change eighth significant circumstances that he to be changed and the country. one of those big fights whether or not as many at the table was 20 years ago with. twenty years ago this month. in south -- [applause] in legislative terms anniversaries are about saddling difficulties that we have overcome, it problem that we have to begin to solve. but there are also reminders of how much more needs to be done to finish the job of we set out to do, not just -- with every major legislative to initiative. the second of this fight is much less daunting, no less important but less daunting. the love of you out there remember it is because you
have my side i suggested we have federally funded women's shelters for little minority and the significant portion of the intelligentsia in this country was biden wanted to set up the indoctrination centers. that is that's 20 years ago. ladies and gentlemen, when we started 20 years ago i along with many of you were accused of engaging in an effort to break up the american family because violence against women was a domestic issue in the literal sense, a family
issue. that is what we were told. cynthia hogan, my chief of staff. in the nfl and seen nothing yet. i am glad they hired her. i am glad that they hired her. that is one strong person. they have no idea about what they just bought on to. thank god. cynthia hogan when i started this effort was being told by some of our allies. i will let mention the allies because they were allies. came along and said this is just a fad. it was not a fad. it was a social failure in america that we had refused to deal with, although others have tried repeatedly for a long, long time. and you all knew would that
it was a social fell your. i was absolutely convinced from the outset, as i am now, by the way, that we forced the american people to take a close look at the face of violence look into the eyes of the women who were abused in every social strata, every income level, the football players as brutal as professors. no distinction. they had to look you in the high. the most terrible send that one could commit. the cardinal sin among all of those was to raise your hand to a woman or to
someone physically weaker. i was convinced that we forced america to look in the eye. because of some extremely brave and courageous women when spoken about this week because of their willingness to step forward would begin to put a face on this heinous crime. i was sorry the public might think these were aberrations , celebrity cases , anomalies and horrible anomalies.
and then an incredible idea. we should write a report that is entitled violence against women, all week in a life of america. they surveyed almost every law on the books and all 50 states and then went and looked at the crime statistics for just one week. it took one week, up 21,000 crimes against women in one week, ordinary women, extraordinary, young women, old women, poor women from a wealthy women. stories of a father abusing his daughter and fearful she would say something. he took her in the garage and put her advice. a man who was a man of some means taking a hammer and breaking of his wife's arms.
i remember back then saying something i could not prove but was convinced of and been widely criticized because i have some knowledge of post-traumatic stress, the vietnam war, people were coming home when suffering from. i could not understand why a woman who torras a leak smashes your head against the wall for much of surf it would not have the lot tenth lifetime in the next with the unhealthful edith the cdc hasn't come up with a study showing that it is the reason for long-term chronic disease with. a consequence of a will that is physically yield years
and years earlier. when that report came out things began to change. it broke the dam of congressional resistance. we pass to the violence against women with one vote to spare to avoid a filibuster. in each and every time we reauthorize it because of you -- and i am not being solicitous, people in this audience, each and every time we have had to reauthorize it, the idea we had to fight about it blows my mind, but every single time we made improvements, protecting american women, protecting plg bt community, so much more. we knew we should have done it but could not get it done the reason i raise all of this is beyond talking about the anniversary but to remind us that we have made progress. 64 percent drop in domestic violence between 93 and
2010. we saved more than 12 -- [applause] we saved the country more than $12,600,000,000 over the last six years alone reducing medical cost and social services. more than 3 million women and men have used the domestic violence hotline. but anniversaries are about setting our sights on finishing the job, let me tell you what success looks like because i am often asked by the press. so compassionate. what constitutes success? there will always be some man raising his hand to someone weaker physical, whether a woman or child or another man. but success will come when the societal attitude changes and women, not a single woman in america asks
herself the question what did i do. [applause] what did i do? [applause] what did what i was wearing, should i have not raise my voice? never, never, never is it the woman's fault. never. [applause] never. and a lot of you have got to get your head around that issue as well. there is never -- and the second thing that will mark the second pieces needed when every single man in america understands that he never has the right to raise his hand. it just is not in right that is always other than self-defense wrong. we have made a lot of progress. we begin to change attitudes
in america, but we will not have succeeded to those two cultural -- those two issues become cultural norms is when we will see dramatic progress. ladies and gentlemen, now we have to focus on what is left. their is a lot left on that agenda, and it is young women. asked my staff -- and i have a brilliant staff. the president allowed me to maintain control of this issue inside the white house and with the cooperation of the attorney general i have been able to appoint all the people who deal with this issue legislatively and politically and administratively. i have a great woman who runs the operation. and she came to me in february with the report which i found incredibly disturbing and disturbing. that was that we made all of this progress in violence
against women and there is one area where we virtually made no progress. young women between 15 and 25, one in ten of them are subject to abuse, physical abuse during that time. it has got to stop. so this past april the president gave me authority to go on and put together a group of media outlets, advertising agencies, young activists to talk about how we can reach a different crew of young americans, young man. made me realize that all the emphasis on what manner doing wrong, we have to reach the men engaged in men .
the president and i will be launching a new public awareness campaign that grew out of these conversations. it is called, it is on ice. and i believe it is going to help reach out to college campuses across america and high schools and drive home the message that everyone of us has a role of protecting young people from sexual assault. this is not a -- [applause] this is not a woman's issue. this is not a woman's issue. this is an american issue. it is time for men to start to stand up. here is the deal, there has been and other brick through i have observed. when you go to -- the questionnaire and ask the one thing that you can do to make the college campuses safer. they said, engage young man.
you will see what we roll this out our attempt to begin a full-scale full-blown effort that we will be unrelenting on over the next several years to make is cowardly not to step out. there is an absolute obligation that you have, and moral obligation to step up and intervene and say something. there is another thing i have observed, and i will end with this. that is, thank god that we no longer talk about women's issues when we come and speak to women's groups. i used to be @booktv my wife was so offended. now are going to talk about the women's issues. where in the hell did they live? [laughter] my observation is everything
is a woman's issue. [applause] i'm serious. i'm serious. those of you in this room represent every walk of life, and economic strata. you are ceos of major corporations, fortune 500 just came out with a list of the 50 most powerful women in america. twenty-four are ceos of major corporations. ten years ago that number was six. significant philanthropist's managing law firms, professors of great and small universities, represent every economic power center in the collective leaders of this country which is what they thought together was different than anything else and now -- [applause] and your voice can not be denied.
your voice can not be turned off. you have not only raised money for the democratic party, you have raised the bar and your sons to know better. like my wife -- [applause] like my wife, jill -- i am mildly praises, but you help set the british standard across the board ended matters. there is one important issue that i want to brief in addition to that. it is the economy and the plight of the middle-class. let me start by reminding everybody in the press that women make up 47% of the workforce. in 1970 we made up 38%. and he should, if we had cratered labor force participation and economically he should be
making a panera two and and a half%. more than 40% are now the sole primary source of income for their families. reflecting the fact that there are more single mothers, 65 percent of whom work. the fact is 24 percent of married women in america earn more than their husbands compared to several% in 1970. the middle-class is maybe the most important women's issue that exists out there. we used to have a basic part in in america. that was when you contributed to the productivity of the enterprise your involved in you've got to share in the rewards that the productivity produced. democrats and republicans for the past 40 years.
that bargain has been broken the new york times sunday headline in march of this year, the last week in march, the american middle-class no longer the world's richest. wall street journal to buy nbc poll, august of this year, 76 percent of americans ages 18 and older were not confident their children's generation would be better off in the room. 51 percent in some polls of middle-class families say it no longer is worth it to said markair of -- child to college. 51 percent. in the middle class is not a member. avalon of great economists.
the will to honor all the home and not rant. they will the san ticket to a park where they know there will be safe the able to send your kid to school or if they do well there will be will to get into college and if they get into college you could figure out a way to afford to get them there. being able to take care of your geriatric parents and hope you can do enough it is insult to five trouble right now. the american dream. that's what built this country. and that's what we are determined to restore. think about this. why have we been the most socialist able we have had a
vibrant middle class. shockwaves run through of a back through the depression. people did not take the extreme alternative because they still believe that american dream existed, that if they chipped in, if they helped build it there would be rewarded in the proceeds. ladies and gentlemen, recent studies not by some think tank, standard and poor's recent article in the economist, the imf study, this income disparity slows growth, it slows economic
growth. when ronald reagan was president 1% of the people earn 10 percent of the income in america. now they earned 20 percent of the income in america. from 2000-2012 the economy grew 29% overall. productivity up 36%. how much of a raise the matter plaskett jack $0.14. $0.14. something is wrong, folks. we better damn well figure it out, start speaking. we need to bring them back to the bargain because they are in fact part of this economy. the wealthy do well in the port had a ladder up. you cannot have a conversation about economic growth if women are not fully participating in the economy.
these are the facts. the growth of women's participation in the work force was responsible for nearly 20 percent of the entire gross and gdp in america for 1970 during the 1970's and 1980's. 20 percent of the growth of america, the american years that growth has slowed. in 1990 the united states ranks seventh among the 24 most developed countries in the world in women's labor force participation. in 2012 we ranked 16th in the world. sixteenth in the world. we can change that by helping women balance work and family, economic studies that indicate that giving women their rights, three months of paid maternity leave could increase empire participation.
probably increasing their gdp from over two percentage points. other studies have found a lowering the cost of job care increases women's labour force protection by significant numbers. meanwhile increasing the minimum wage alone would disproportionately help women, many of whom were in a low-wage roles such as personal care, health care support, tipped occupations. why in god's name in the united states of america should it be that you work 40 hours a week and still end up $7,000 below the poverty level in america, below the poverty level? but it is not just about equity. it is about economic growth for everyone. and there is more money in that waitresses pocket, she will go out and spend it on necessities. that increases employment. that boosts the gdp. it is basic economics 101.
and in guaranteeing equal pay for women is so long overdue it would have such a profound effect on families. [applause] so folks, paycheck fairness act is not just about being fair. it is about u.s. economic growth and dynamism. and for america's sake it is pretty simple. we have said deal the middle class back in. there is only one way that we can do that, and i will end with this. we have to do well in 2014. it is that basic. volt l. rock where -- and not making a moral judgment. i'm really not. but this is a different breed.
seriously. think about all of the issues we are now fretting about. access to the polls 81 bills introduced. it was republicans who expanded access, republicans in the judiciary committee, republicans that were involved, guys like matt mathias and packwood and so many others. it was not democrats alone. republicans were of the sponsors and razors of the minimum wage. i could go on and on. i am not joking. this is not your father or mother is republican party. but we have made great progress and we have made it because of you, but there is so much more to come if nancy pelosi runs again as speaker of the house, if mary landreau continues to
be chairman of the energy committee, if que hay in and sheen all of whom have been in the district's campaigning for them and are going to win because of you. [applause] they're going to win because of you. [applause] if we don't keep these women we don't make gains in the house and lose the chance to make the next step in progress which is waning because america is about to explode economically. a better position than any country in the world to be the leading economy in the 21st century by a long shot. to paraphrase samuel clemens, reports of the demise of the democratic party are premature. they are very premature. and there are women like you who have to run for office all over this country. i was just down in texas for wendy davis.
she is going to win that race. to not give up on that race. do not. if you have an extra dollar give it to wendy davis. we are going to win that race. [applause] by the way, i will be heading up to wisconsin where someone will give scott walker the shock of his life. i am serious. watch this. what a candid. there are women in this room have no, who are ready to help them win, to make leaders do what all has to be done because in spite of the millions of dollars of special interest money that has poured in over $10 million of negative advertising and she is still ahead. they are all still ahead. [applause] now we are down to the short strokes. when i was a candid i could tell you the exact number of
days 45, 46, i don't know how many days, but not many, not many. so we are always coming to you, always asking for how and doing all the time. like you, we were raised not to ask for ourselves. you come back to the same people all the time. you know, anyone a point of personal privilege. not easy to write the check. that's the thing to want to thank you for. even arch rose when you do that. here vouching for all of these women and others make sure that we don't slide back a decade by losing the
senate and the ground in the house. the president as a wonderful guy, my great personal friend. the ratio. it is useful but not what we want the job. we have done a lot. this time to step up and make our case without apology. that's why i'm appreciative about when all of you have done to change attitudes, to change all the conversation to the spam democratic women, to give me in the present the of the charity to finish these issues. i cannot tell you how much it means. it really matters.
i had a few pictures taken so happy, so optimistic knows what they are about to do and things is still matters. this still matters and sodium. we need you badly. thank you for your time. double down these last 40 some days. god bless you. thank you for everything you have done for us. i love you. thank you. [applause] >> the un security council met to discuss proposed by isis. that is coming up next here on c-span2. then a subcommittee hearing on tariff threats in europe