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populace who voted for general weaver and thereby sink the republic. he now has a democratic running mate and a populist running mate. he has to finesse the issue of how to get that populist running mate off the ticket and battleground states where i cannot afford the vote to be split. he decides he will storm the country in a fashion that is not been done before. he will get on the train, campaign the country, has 33 major trips he makes across the country. this is the first time is ever happen. there's been occasions in which a candidate michael on the road to a major ga are or a big gathering of some sort but literally number of times they spoke on the road to less than one dozen. there's been a sort of a front porch campaign in 1888 the jimmy
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harrison basically had about 80 speeches he had to visiting delegations over a four-month period. it was an amazing testament to his courage most days, until october 7 and august and september, until october seventh, his generally, he is generally making his own train reservation, riding in a common car grab a sandwich at a depot someplace, and hoping that when he got to the end of the line someone would pick them up up and he would have a hotel reservation. sometimes he has a private car he makes a chip through kentucky, tennessee, virginia and up to washington d.c. and he has a private railcar but sometimes he's just writing -- young senator for north carolina
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senator jones of our says we have to have a private plane car. we took a late train to baltimore because they wanted him to be somewhere at 8:00 o'clock in the morning. we waited until 2:00 a.m. to switch trains. got him on the train and he doesn't catch and express, we caught a, we caught a little train and there's a handful of people there. you're going to kill him if you keep doing this to them. if you have a private car he can fall sleep in the car, he moved on tran can pick him up in the middle of the night he can wake up refreshed and have a place where he can have us close, washes face. >> host: so he is going everywhere, what is mckinley do. >> guest: well mckinley is being pressed by hannah to go on the road. once panic sets in its unstoppable.
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he says we have a race on her hands and keeps pressuring mckinley to go on the road. mckinley says look, i can't do that. if i go on the road, he will get on a trapeze and i will have to mimic him. if i go on the road, i road, i've been on the road before, i know what it's like hannah said his friends to go talk and finally mckinley says i have to think before i speak, so what happens is people are showing up in groups so somebody and i think that somebody is mckinley says let's make that my routine. only let's get it organized. so people don't show up on my doorstep and say were here to see you. set it up so we know who's coming us invite those that we want to have come. such as those that volunteer to come. if it's a critical voter grit from a critical state let's know that they are coming, have
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ascended what they want to say in advance we can edit it let's have remarks each time, will take them under an arched to the courthouse square, will have them form up there, we'll have bands and entertainment to keep them occupied when the moment comes when i finished meeting with the last delegation they can then come on the lawn will have an organized program. all think them for coming to five time i shake everybody's hand and log onto the next group. this becomes campaigning on an industrial scale. 750,000 people come to canton ohio. on some weekend a hundred thousand people come. they show up at the station they go to townsquare women go shopping men pick up cigars, merchants do well in towel, sometimes they take special groups and speed them have
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appropriate drinks for the men if you're dry you get a couple coffee and a sandwich, they come through its industrial and scale he knows exactly what he wants to say the messages tailored to that audience and repeated by them when they go home. lysol the major and here's what he said. >> host: so which of these two men to think address more people? >> guest: i'm convinced that brian sees more people. the estimate is two to 3 million people. he would go everywhere there are people but he attracted spectators. mckinley attracted supporters. it was targeted. he created an army, his campaign was based on this principle we want to create an army of people who will serve as our surrogates and advocate. they organized everybody, had groups for blacks, germans,
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women because some women could vote in western states, they organized traveling salesman as these were people who traveled widely, spoke well a new lots of people. lots of young men were falling into it. it was great excitement. so tell us what happens on election day. >> guest: mckinley wins the northeast there's not a single county in the northeast that goes for brian. mckinley went 75% of the vote. takes all the critical battleground states. new york, new new jersey connecticut, ohio and indiana follow. he whence most of the critical battleground states in the midwest. he hoped to wins nebraska he loses the rocky mount state. he loses south as expected. all of the states in the old confederacy fall to the
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democrats. the critical breakthrough is from delaware, maryland, west virginia and kentucky mckinley wins republicans had not won their decades. then he's takes oregon and neroli carol forney on the west coast. 51% of the vote. no one had done since grant in 1872. he was a dominant majority in the electoral count. >> host: what are the consequences of that two-party system. >> host: it brings into the republican party particularly labors which bring the republicans dominant for the next 36 years. republicans held the house for 26 out of 36 years. the white house 28 white house 28 and the senate for 30. the only time there was power is when they divide among themselves in 1912. omar governor's governor's and state legislators until we do
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today. the mayor said and most major cities are routinely republican, boston, new york, philadelphia, baltimore, chicago. there republican mayors left and right. mckinley created a coalition of of industrial workers, small-town farmers who have their own farms on the traditional small-business allies of the republican party as well as union veteran. it becomes an unstoppable coalition for over three decades. >> host: so you credit mckinley for real political creativity and foresight. has there -- who since his time has been like him? has anybody that is consequential. >> guest: i think fdr was. i think he was deliberately set out to blow the lines into the public in coalition. jews would become an element and the republican party after the
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1896 campaign. the populist movement had a lot of very angry anti- somatic voices who brian did not still. as a result a lot of the jewish voters became republican. again, he reached i got the intelligence had been republicans in the aftermath back into the democrats under roosevelt. >> host: anyone else beside fdr. >> guest: ronald reagan in his own way. we're looking at us was a strong principal leader who can change politics those would be the two i would pick. >> host: carl, this is an entertaining book, it is packed with information. it has big things, wonderful details and i will end with my favorite detail which was the question is who is going to give the opening invocation at the republican convention. you
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mentioned the american protective association p so is it going to be a protestant minister or catholic priest? how do they finesse. >> guest: a jewish rabbi gives the opening invocation which is i would imagine anti- catholics were anti- jews. but the enormous signal. i'm in charge. you are no longer in charge. there protestant ministers after a mckinley as a result of this becomes the first republican candidate to receive -- the rabbi is there to give the invocation. >> host: great detail. thank you very much. >> guest: thank you. >> book tv is on instagram, follow us for publishing news, schedule updates and behind the scenes pictures and videos.
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instagram.com/book -underscore tv. >> sunday night on q&a, tyler able stepson of the late washington merry-go-round columnist, drew pearson talks about the second volume of mr. pearson's diaries. it gives an insider's take on washington d.c. from 1960 until 1969. >> it was just remarkable all of the things that he did and sometimes he would criticize himself in the diary. if you read and that carefully you could have come across place where he says i think that calm was too strong, i should've said it quite that way. or lyndon is going to get mad at me for the way i wrote that column. but he needed to be told what i wrote and i'm glad i wrote it. >> sunday night at 8:00 p.m. eastern on q&a.
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>> just me and power is a biography of george herbert walker bush. the author was given exclusive access to the diaries of a president bush bush and first lady barbara bush. mr. beauchamp spoke to george w. bush at the bush center in dallas. this is just under one hour. >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome margaret spellings, president of the george w. bush residential center. [applause]. hello. good evening everybody, thank you so much for joining us here at the bush center on the beautiful campus. i i hope for most of you it is welcome back. we are thrilled to be here. i want to first recognize first lady laura bush and gerald turner, gail turner, president of smu. this mighty university we are partnering with.
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thank you for being here [applause]. we have been keeping a very busy calendar this year with our engage at the bush center serious. where hosting former chairman of the federal reserve ben pataki on the 16th, as long as karl rove at december 14 where has a new book on mckinley. even though it may not sound that way. please plan on joining us for both of those. we also want to your attention to our holiday season special exhibit called a season of stories, christmas at the white house 2003. opening on november nineteenth, just in time for all of your holiday visitors. the exhibit will feature a number of handcrafted decorations depicting below storybook characters that were displayed on the white house for christmas in 2003. we hope you'll come and experience that.
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also terrific for families. tonight, we are excited to present you with conversation between president bush and author john beauchamp. they will discuss the new book destiny and power, the american the american odyssey of george herbert walker bush. john was granted exclusive access to president bush 41 as we call him. he delivers an unprecedented and comprehensive pretrial of a great man who has long held a special place in our history and enter. now, please do me in welcoming to the stage my boss, the 43rd president of the united states, george w. bush and author john beauchamp. [applause]. >> thank you all.
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they already the love you and haven't read the book. >> that it is perfect man. it's all downhill. >> thank you for, john, margaret thank you, laura and i welcome keith, john's wife, sam, mary, and make and make a right from nashville tennessee. thank you for being here. we are thrilled you are here. [applause]. so i know the subject of your book quite well, and i read your book. >> yes sir. >> much to the amazement of some of our fellow citizens and i really liked your book. i hope everybody here reads it. it is really the first serious biography of my dad but before he talked about the book i think people might be interested in your background. where were you race? college? >> i grew up in chattanooga,
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tennessee on the civil war battlefield. so for me history was always a real thing, his tactile thing. i can still find many balls from the battle missionary bridge in our yard. i went to great schools, an episcopal montessori which is redundant when you think about it. i went to the mcauley school which manages to produce pat robertson a ted turner so we have a foot never can. then i went to the university of the south which is best understood as the combination of downton abbey and deliverance. i'll put together. but growing up, i read a lot -- i love biographies of great men. william manchester, i love politics. my grandmother was a judge in tennessee. he stepped coffee with the local political guys every morning
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downtown, so i would go down at a very young age which makes plain why am as strange as i am. the district attorney would be there, senators senators would come by as a courthouse group. so for me politicians were always real people. when i went into journalism, i went into print journalism which was like being the last rat to board a sinking ship. i thought that was unkind but accurate, ultimately. what i always wanted to do was write about these great events that they were great events that were shaped by people. what impresses me most bite politicians in my mini character flaws is that folks in your line of work are fallible, you make
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mistakes, but you do great things. you bend history. what i always try to find when i write a book about someone is what is that moment of transcendence when all of the human realities are still there but you managed to rise above them to put the country in the world on a better course. that is of fundamental human drama is why i do what i do. >> so you have written a book about jefferson, jackson, roosevelt, all dead. >> that's true. >> then you decide to write one about someone who still alive. >> very much so. >> what's the difference. >> you can't call the others to check things out. the other three also do not have sons who happen to also have nuclear authority. [laughter] so we can talk about that in a second if you want. you know what the difference was, i always feared that
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because your data so generous with his access, you because your mom was so generous, because you are so generous, i worried that i would have a hard time throwing a punch if i had to. but because of the evils that your parent put around this is you call it as you see it, were not -- this is history not journalism, because of that it emanated from your father, the problem became i never met jackson which is a good thing he might've shot me. i never met jefferson or fdr, i never met churchill, so when so when you're writing and you know this, you've done two great books, if you're writing about someone you don't know you don't know what you're missing. if i try to describe what it's like to have dinner with your dad, or sitting around with your father, and i wrote that section and i would think, you know did i quite get it exactly right.
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because as you know, your father has what i call a quiet persistent, charisma. he's no jfk, he's no ronald reagan, yet he became president of the united states because person after person, at every stage in his life, almost anyone who met him, with some exceptions we can damn near count on one hand, to leave that he was someone whose hand, the affairs of the nation and the world would be safe. that's a particular kind of gift, a particular kind of charisma that does not fit into the usual categories. so your dad created a much more difficult literary task which you know, because you didn't. >> yeah but mine was a little different perspective. you are never president. [laughter] >> in the world is a lot better off because of it. i can assure you.
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>> margin mention this and that is, something that i do not realize that he had kept a lot of diaries. he spoken to his tape recorder for years and he gave you full access. >> on conditional. >> so how did that happen? and that his sons had no idea that he had those. >> mr. president, you and and i both come from a common gene pool which is -- so speak for yourself. direct conversations are never a big thing in my family. except for where did the olives go for the martinis. when i was growing up that's about as honest as we got some time. i'm using a technical term mr. president, i hope you'll forgive me, i begged. he kept diaries as a un
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ambassador, as rnc chairman, and then a campaign diary in 1980, sporadically as sporadically as vice president. he was very good and even and odd numbered years because and even numbers years he was out campaigning. he was on the road for congressional and senate candidates. then starting on november 4, 1986 he six he says i am beginning a diary about the biggest challenge of my life, the biggest mission of my life, i'm going to run for president. it was the day they lost the senate. so it starts kind of dark. but he did this throughout the 88 campaign, then its president he missed a week or two maybe, but not really. he would do it early in the morning, sometime up in the trigger rooms. you use the same room as an office up in the residence. he would carry it around in his
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briefcase, he would do it on marine one, you can hear the blades of the helicopter. he would do it on air force one, you can hear the engines, he would sometimes do it late at night when he sounds like a step away from the grave, just beaten down by the day. but what is so revealing about them is reading them alone is fascinating. it is a unique historical document. i told him at the time, believe it to this hour, that they are important as john's quincy adams diaries were which he kept throughout his whole life. it's as close as anyone except for the gentleman to my right is ever going to get to being president. he is talking, he's not writing. the act of writing, you set back from it. this is a man who'd turned a man who turned on the tape recorder and told the truth. as he was capable of not doing that. even when he was having
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the worst possible day, even if new gingrich had done something or he read the d's paper, newsweek. >> that's an inside joke. >> yes, it's gracious gracious of you sir. [laughter] >> welcome to dallas. [laughter] >> where those olives? even when he was having the worst possible day he would talk himself back into the game. so the night he lost, which i believe was the night the 20 century and a, november 3 and fourth, 1992. he is seeking in suite 271 at the seen in suite 271 at the smithsonian, your mother's asleep, he can't sleep, it's 1215 a.m., he gets out of his bed goes into the living room, turns of, turns of a tape recorder, and he basically says, they always said i didn't get it i didn't believe, i understand understand what the country is going through. but what i did not get is how
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this generation does not understand duty, honor the country, the way my generation did. i'm paraphrasing slightly [applause]. those are tough words. first sitting president of the united states to say about his country. but then but then what does he do? he says, the strong, be gracious, finish strong, don't show them that it hurts, what stunned me the moats listening to these diaries was, it was one of the most emotional men who could have ever held office. he won my heart in those diaries in 1986, very early on when there's he's on a mission from president reagan and he is shown into a children's leukemia ward. of course, your sister died of
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leukemia in 1953, he is standing there and the press is behind him, all the cameras and microphones, he realizes where he is. he starts to cry. he will not turn around because if he turns around with tears in his eyes the story becomes about him not about them. now, i know a lot of politicians and there are not a lot of them who would not have turned around. i tried to create some kind of moment. he says, this for the kid has this old man crying over him but i just hope he knows that i love him. that is george herbert walker bush, and that is the george herbert walker bush as a biography i believe, is a sweet and noble man.
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far sweeter, fart nobler than the country appreciated at that time. i think it is changing and i hope this book helps change that. >> thank you. [applause]. may be far sweeter than mother. [laughter] and you have access. >> it forgets to houston, he said it. [laughter] >> the reason i mention that as you read her diaries. >> i did. >> i knew she was a diary keeper, of course she did not let any of us read her diaries. what did you learn in that. >> this is an amazing historical document starting in 1948 when they go to odessa. when i went to odessa they thought they were going to russia. it was the wrong odessa but it was not that far off. literally, mrs. pierce's sent
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boxes of soap and detergent to her son-in-law and daughter figuring they did not have that in texas. the first time your dad drove through texas in the studebaker he stopped at a local diner in abilene and ordered chicken fried steak not knowing if it's chicken fried like a steak or steak red like a chicken. so he ordered a lone star so it didn't matter. so there is one moment in the diary 1948, you are too, maybe 1949, where you are listening to mother goose records. >> is where it all started. [laughter] >> take that pollutant [applause]. [laughter]
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-- putin. >> and you jabbed her in the let big with the knitting needle. >> take that mother. >> what these diaries give you, you put an incredibly intelligent observant woman at the highest levels of american politics for have center, this is what you get. you have first impressions of texas politics, she she said in 1963 of the john birch society which are in dallas and houston, big forces, the nuts will never love him. she said that she said that about her husband in 1963. we have her account of president kennedy's assassination. incredibly moving. we have the first time she met the reagans. she points out how immense will attractive they both were. now she was not always quite as
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complementary about everybody, i don't know if you've had any experience with that mr. president? but what it is, it is an honest account of the events that shape the way we live now. if you want to understand the 1968 convention where your dad is a to your congressman was in the present running for vice president, you read this. if you don't understand what it was like to be married to the chairman of the committee during watergate, you read this. what i learned is that she was the one who really kept the family going while george hw bush, an immensely wonderful father, but as always in that generation, he was out there. he
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was building an international business, you and i talked about this what is your first memory of your dad? >> baseball. >> but otherwise he was out there using kuwait, trinidad, london reason money, new york raising money to get that oil business going. one of the several times that he cried in interviews with me, i mean several, several times. sometimes our interviews were like the worst therapy. he would cry, i would cry, the kleenex would run out. the chief of staff would come in it's that i cannot leave you two alone. it was when i said did you have any idea, on january 6, 1945 on that cold saturday in the first presbyterian church that you are marrying a woman that could move 37 times and and endure what she could endure in public life, in raising and loving this table family? he burst into tears. he said no.
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i do not know that. but i could not have done anything i did without her. >> yes, interesting. [applause]. >> so one of the things that amazed me in the book, i'm trying to help you sell it. >> i appreciate that. >> there's an economic stimulus package. >> as it is. personal. tell them the story about losing the senate race and going up to see nixon and the job's and initially offered. that really surprised me. >> so he runs in 1970 for the second time for the senate, it was supposed to be george hw bush against -- it was going to be a parallel race of what happened in tennessee with a young guy, handsome young republican like your father against an aging liberal, al
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gore senior. that. that was was going on in my hometown say. here is when to be george w. bush guess you are bore. >> remember i said, there's on one hand you can talk about folks he didn't like. i think we can say governor conley was not high on the bush christmas card list. >> ..
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george hw bush was just one sexy guy. every story talks about how he had candies glamour, country club matrons would swoon over him. just again and again it had this thing about his appeal. well, now we have two tall war veterans who are pretty good-looking who served in the house. in texas in 1970 i don't have to tell the former governor the advantages for the democrats. benson bush did not work because benson was more conservative. so bush, president bush goes up to me with nixon. someone suggested the un to him. bush started thinking about this. when he goes into see nixon,
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nixon has decided he wants to make him an assistant to the president. again, what is 2nd prize? and so president bush makes the case, you know,case, you know, i really think i could do more good for you at the un. no one is up there making the case, supporting you. it was a brilliant, brilliant tactical argument because nixon is looking at the son of prescott bush, with whom he has served in the senate, polished son, ivy league son of a senator and thinking, you know what, what bush is saying is right. if he goes up there he can make the case for me. i am the grocer son from yorba linda and having this more patrician figure will work for me, process happens. he sent them out to find
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bush white house office. you know what i thought about this. george herbert walker bush of the shortest white house staff career of anyone. it was about 40 minutes. there was another wrinkle in their, he said here's another thing, don't live on the 42nd floor apartment of the waldorf-astoria. go to greenwich, commute in, establish residency and then run against a river cough nixon thought that bush could not make it from the
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senate down here but if you turned him into a connecticut republican he might be able to beat river cough. what is so wonderful and will speaks so much about his devotion to texas and the fact that he raised his family here and built his business here is at that point he thoroughly thought of himself as a texan and never bet on that. you know better than i do, if the president of the united states tends to suggest a pathway you listen. >> he made an interesting point in the book about comparing his position on the un and the 64 race and taking the position.
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from very early on george hw bush was the star of the family. shot down on september 21944 rescue after four hours a life raft commits the wind and tide have been going toward it was a scene of terrible japanese war crimes including cannibalism which led your dad to sometime said your mother, i was almost in order. hell,hell, he might have been an entrée. he was a tall guy. sixty-two. at that point he was meant to be saved. your father introduced him to the french ambassador in washington.
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and in 1965 we lost the 64 race but the 7th district is coming into being is a fellowa fellow named ross baker who is thinking about challenging him in the primary. >> no relation to jim. >> no relation to jim. none of that. he goes to him. baker says, i want to be a congressman. i think you're using this as a stepping stone to the senate. this is 1965, 411965, 41 years old command yet to win a race, but he had a sense of destiny, word he does not particularly like but it was
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a sense that he was meant to do great things. what is so striking to me as a biographer is finding the examples. your other grandfather wrote a letter a yale to a friend who said it would not surprise me at all if the son-in-law becomes pres. president. people were talking about the possibility of a pathway to the presidency as a possibility long before it became probable which was a revelation to me which led me to see, begin to see his career in a slightly different light. if you believe your the best man for the job than what you say and what you do on the campaign trail command he told me once sitting on the porch at your house in maine politics is not a pure undertaking. you have to say and do certain things that you might ingest badly to get to where you want to be.
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the test becomes -- that is the business of politics. what is important is what you do once you have the power. and one of the examples is, as the president says, in 1964 george hw bush was not the biggest fan of the united nations. but he gets the job, gets the power, andpower, and works like a dog to make the un matter as much as it can for foreign-policy and foreign policy and the help his president which was his duty at that time. and there is example after example where he would win power and always at that point put the country ahead of his own political interest. and that is a rare political story. >> when you write the book on me, you won't find anybody predicting i would be president. [laughter]
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>> we will have to find another angle. >> yeah. >> let me ask you this. >> give me time. >> so let me ask you this, how long does it take for historians to get a clear eyed view of a presidency? in other words, the difference between history and journalism. >> you know,know, i think it is 20 to 25 years where you let the dust settle. our mutual friend has a 25 year rule. at that point you can begin to see things more fully. it is clear to me at this point that particularly on the domestic sphere people did not think your dad had much of a domestic agenda. well, walk into a public restroom or try to enter a public building anywhere in the country and you will
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find that disabled americans can get into buildings they could not get into before he was president. [applause] the most sweeping piece of civil rights legislation says the middle of the 1960s was signed by george w. bush. he compare it to the fall of the berlin wall, the barriers are coming down. his interest was rooted in fairplay. another example of where he said one thing and did another was he opposed the 1964 civil rights act as a candidate for the senate in texas. what does he do in april of 68 when he is actually in congress with a vote? he votes for fair housing. the african-american soldiers will have every right to buy a house wherever they want. he came down here and faced
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an immense amount of hate. a lothate. a lot of words we don't use were thrown at him. he told me a guy came up to hear and so we did not send you updated do this. he stood there and took the because he thought it was the right thing to do. he might have done one thing and 64, but when he had the power and responsibility and authority what did he do? he put the ultimate interest of the country directly ahead of his political interest. his district did not want it. he tells a story about getting on the airplane to fly back to washington and the woman is coming at him. when people are coming at you with a look in their eyes you want to be as far away as possible. he is sitting in the airline chair and is thinking here it comes again.
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she walks up and says, i'm a democrat in your district command i always going to vote for you now. he sat back and flew on. i am convinced that because he thought that was right -- i know he did it because he thought it was right, and i command i think it taught him if you put the country 1st then ultimately -- >> in this case he ran unopposed. >> i now. [laughter] >> the royalty checks would be a little heavier. but one of the things that surprised me is how much the 92 campaign stunned. you alluded to that on his
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dictation. but he never shows any of the angst. do you have any impression about when he greeted bill clinton? anything in the diaries? >> and on that very night, on the night he is calling him a draft dodger and sack sac amply we just select someone whom duplicitous -- duplicitous the important service to his country, another line was i like bill so when they met it was right when -- it was the day before your grandmother died. the 3rd week of november in 1992. and he was grace itself. we have footage of it. they had a long conversation
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, covered everything you can imagine. showed him the sauna, what he called his little world that the study and the dining room. clinton's reaction was while and he personifies -- and see if you think i'm overstating this. i actually think that culturally and temperamental he your father has more in common with franklin roosevelt, theodore roosevelt, and even the founding fathers that he does with many people in his own time. >> really? >> i really do. public service was an extension of yourself, it was expected of you. if you could get to the top it was fabulous, but at any level. we all of the story.
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december 71941, walking across the campus that end over and passes cochran chapel finds out about pearl harbor. he immediately decides he wants to serve, immediately knows he wants to be an aviator and told me that he even considered joining the royal canadian air force because he did not have to be -- and they were already mobilized because of the existing situation with the war in europe. he gets to june 121942, has already written letters to the navy to get signed up. the secretary of war gives an impromptu speech at the graduation.
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more useful. said no he wanted to strike out on his own. he takes notes. september 21944 here shot out of the sky, flew 58 combat missions. you don't think about did
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not do enough. all records, followed every procedure. and then he said the other thing i wonder is why was i spirit. i am convinced that that experience as well as the loss of your sister imbued in him a code that every minute counted. and he told me life is unpredictable and fragile. he knew that he had been given so much in life, loving parents comeau was seems to be one of the greatest mothers in history, loving brothers and sisters. i think he realized that he had been given this chance,
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to whom much is given much is expected.
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>> retirement is not working out. he was in the east room. a diary entry that night say what kind of man is this? he only showed us who he really was at the end. he appreciated makes this patronage. he made his life are with watergate. he gave in the un, the republican national committee. now, nixon's view is really important because it endured. and your father told me this. thought he was a loyal appointee. bush takes a beautifully.
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but that was his job. he served in these nonexecutive job. articulating later that he was never in an executive job. you are serving the president. so your dad said in diaries, said it to me that he thought that saw the beginning of the sense that he did not quite have the guts to do it began with nixon. the other critical element is one of the reasons nixon thought that is because as chairman of the national committee your father size duty says the protection of the party, not the protection of the president. these other guys sent over these attacks. bitterly attacking opponents and he would not do it
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because he believed the parties interest and nixon's interests were going farther apart. >> what is interesting is the resignation, the cabinet meeting. one of only three people. nixon walks in on august 7 1974 and says i think it's time, the most important issue facing the country and so the attorney general says something to him. bush says whatever is going
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to happen has to happen soon because it is august 11 even-numbered year ended at is looking at congressional numbers. nixon was saying, i have the support of the senate. you know how eager people are to come give you bad news. >> rarely. >> what he does is leaves the cabinet meeting and writes a letter urging the president to resign. it's better for the country. >> when people read this book what would you like them to take away?
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he was someone uniquely but the country before his own narrow political interest. oneone of the great examples was the 1990 budget deal. he thought facing a deficit required it. you have rebellion brewing on the right. president bush goes out to announce the deal. he goes out the front door. i can't, president bush speaking, i can be off the corner falling on my
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ideological sword. there is october. june 271990 the statement was released. august 2 saddam and fades kuwait. budget negations roll into columbus day. the last thing is going to do is put the troops at risk but he has americans in harms way. gingrich went to him and said just don't do it now. take the pledge back and say if you wanted tax increase both for the democrats. and i honestlyi honestly don't think that was in your father's imaginative capacity as he is building an army reverse aggression

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