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senior fellow heather macdonald looks at the policing in america. >> what we hear from the "black lives matter" movement is that cops are racist. they are in minority neighborhoods and oppressing people in those communities. presumably it would seem really out of whim or caprice because there's never any explanation as to why officers would be in those communities. so i am simply adopting a phrase that is often bandied about by "black lives matter" protesters. i see the signs that say "racist killer cops," "kkk cops." they're suggesting cops are motivated by racial animus.
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>> you can watch all previous "after words" programs on our web site, >> george gibson, what is blooms bury? >> in the u.s. is a division of bloomsbury. it was founded in 1986 and then after the publication of the first harry potter novel they opened a business in the united states and i'm the publisher of the date division. >> host: what kind of books to you publish. >> guest: we publish 110 books a year, mostly nonfiction. 20% is fiction, but a lot of history and politics and current events and food-related books, popular science, those are the four areas we publish in. some memoirs as well. >> host: want to catch up with
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you here the publishing convention. talk about the books coming out this fall and you have one coming up on lyndon johnson. >> guest: we do. called "faustian bargain by and it's the story of the dark side of lyndon johnson. lbj accomplished an enormous amount as a president but had a very dark side, and this story is told through the lens of a man completely unknown to history, neighborhood mack wallace who only enter investigated with lyndon johnson a couple of occasions bus his life story tells a great deal about the dark side of lbj and the deal me made with cronies in texas, to which mack wallace was very mitch involved in and aware of. the best way to describe this is he in 1951 walked into a small golf course owner in austin, texas and shot the man dead. he was arrested two hours later and he said to the arresting officers that the texas rangers,
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i work for lyndon, i have to get back to washington. within an hour, lyndon johnson's personal lawyer, john coker, was defending him, and he was exonerated. and then top security clearance working for dhbird, a weapons contractor in texas, and had top security clearance for the next 12 years, which the office of naval intelligence trade to rescind and couldn't so there's a hidden story here, behind the scenes story of lbj, who for all his great accomplishments had a very dark side as well. >> host: where where did melon get the information cincinnati was very interesting. the day after john f. kennedy was assassinated and lyndon johnson became president, that next day, life magazine was set to release an article investigating lbj's dealings in texas with the likes of bobby baker, his aide in washington. that article never saw the light of day. and the senate intelligence
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committee was doing an investigation of lbj also. that, too what stopped immediately. you can say lbj is one over the luckiest men alive because jfk's assassination put him in the white house which is why people say he was responsibility for jfk death hut be was not. but he did benefit by becoming president and by avoiding these investigations and that's what that book gets into. >> host: what does the term "faustian" meal. >> guest: well, a deal with the devil. she argues that the young man, like mack wallace, who came into lbjs orbit were in fact deal can with the devil and making a bargain with the devil. that got something for iter bit paid a steep price for it as well. >> host: a new book out on the american revolution, what are we going learn. >> guest: paul is the former head of the art department of -- also an historian of note and the story of the revolution through the lens of the five
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great painters of the era, chills pill son eel, john trumbell, gill burt stewart, and benjamin west, and they are fascinating group of men to begin with, but you see the revolution through completely different eyes when you study the paintings they did, which were so iconic at the time. very influential in guiding america's feelings at the time towards britain or against britain. plenty of paintings that aroused positive sentiment for england at the time and many that supported the colonist cause. but each of the artists had their own kings to at the revolution. charles wilson piehl was in washington's army and did portraits of people at valley forge. he fought in the battle of princeton. ben gentleman minimum west was in london, very much in favor of the american cause but also the court painter to george iii.
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so he couldn't go too far in what he painted. he had to hold back. in his own sentiments because he would have lost his position at court. fascinating individual stories that give a wholly different look at the american revolution. >> host: what was the reaction when you first heard about that book? >> guest: that i did not know this aspect of the story. i read a of books about the revolution and the period but i never read about those artist. there have been biographies of all of them but i never read any of those so i didn't know their stories, and reading the proposal for the book, i was stunned by the van bran si of their own stories, how amazing they were as individuals, and the effect they had on the american public at the time. whether you were in favor of the revolution or not these painters had huge impact. piehl was the equivalent of a war photographer. he was al valley forge, doing protraits the people involved,
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whether common soldiers or george washington himself. he did painting of washington a battle. he was the war photographer of the time. and taking great risks as well. and so these men had fascinating vibrant lives and they come alive in at the book and then tell the revolution in a different way. >> general george gibson, who is carol anderson. >> guest: the head of the african-american studies and history department at emory university in atlanta. one of the really great african-american professors in the country. and at the height of the ferguson riots in 2014, she wrote an op-ed for the "washington post" called "white rage" in which she argued that even though everybody understands why we're talking about black rage and the death of people like michael brown and eric garner, she be talking about white rage because also every point since the civil war ended, when blacks have made appreciable social progress in america, they have been met with a concerted deliberate white
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opposition, whether it was in reconstruction, the great migration north or after background vs. board of education changed education in the country, or the against drugs and then the obama presidency. every time that blacks have made progress in the country there had been a concerted white blacklash against them in the courts and legislatures. it has been code as protecting democracy or preventing fraud or some other buzz words but it is systemic racism, and this is the first time that one connected 150 years of history from 1865 to the present so to show that attitudes alive during reconstruction are sadly veer much alive today. they're coded and worded differently but the systemic sense of racism and pushing down a minority is still very much in our culture, sad to say. >> host: when does that book come out. >> guest: may 31st, and so
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it's a little blitz before the fall season but it is perhaps the most powerful book i have ever published. tend of it i came away with this -- first of all an anger and a sense of this undeniable. we cannot deny this is happening. >> host: and finally, little bit off the beaten path, maybe for bloomsbury and book tv, but madam chairman. >> guest: ross king is an historian of art and history. his skill is at connecting great art with the history that stands behind it, it's -- the story of claude monet and his famous paintings, and he didn't paint them until he is 74 and his wife died and world war i was about to start. his son was in the army and he was terrified for losing his son. the town where he lived was turned be a military hospital.
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and yet he produced extraordinary paintings at this old age. his great presented wag george plymouth -- not the president of france -- the prime minister of france and became the prime minister, and he would check up on monet who was notably decisive. he felt that monet was a treasure of france and ultimately convinced monet to give a lot of his paintings to the country after he died. they now sit in the paris, famous paintings of the water lily. so this fascinating friendsship at ther center of this book. >> host: that's just a quick preview of books coming out by bloomsbury. you're watching booktv on c-span2. >> this is booktv on c-span2.
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television for serious readers. here's our primetime lineup: tonight, 7:15, gary burn shares about his time as a kryzewski -- as a secret service officer in the who is during the clinton administration, then a height of experiences with sex simple in her momentum moyer "sex object." on "after words" at 9:00 p.m., heather mcdonald talks about policing in america. at 10:00 p.m., a roundtable discussion on hillary clinton's book "it takes a village." and we wrap up our lineup with representative marsha blackburn from the book that influenced her life and career. that all happens tonight on c-span2's booktv. >> booktv visited capitol hill to ask members of congress what they're reading this summer. >> i plan on reading four things. the first one i'm in the middle is bully pulpit.


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