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>> most people in america never have really been on a farm. maybe it would go to the county fair but they don't know what it is to be a farmer, which is not a romance. and so there's this kind of romantic view of agriculture which i find actually exasperating because it makes it impossible to think about agriculture clearly.
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>> go to for the complete we can schedule. >> c-span, where history unfold daily. in 1979 c-span was created as a public service by america's cable-television companies and is brought to you today by your cable or satellite provider. >> now, reported from wired magazine, the "new york times" and "usa today" on covering emerging technologies. this is 45 minutes. >> good morning. i'm gerry mccartney, university cio, director of the dawn or doom conference and the like to welcome you to this years opening event for this
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years dawn or doom. this is our third year and we're very excited about what the event has become. a global leader in many areas of technology and we think it's important to let these types of discussions that we will be having the next couple days about what happens with these technologies when they move from our labs into the real world. please have a great touch for a great group of journalist to join us this morning so you can about the industry that keeps us all informed about what is going on in science and technology. i also want to welcome c-span who is here today recording sessions for broadcast later this year. so let me take a minute. i'm pleased to introduce transeven, digital editor as you say today where she manages the publicationspublications, sociaa strategy on the west coast -- natalie diblasio -- and writes a column called launched.
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hashtag launched. focus on the intersection of tech and culture in the bay area. as a reporter she's covered everything from po chest to political conventions to tragedies including the aurora theater massacre, super storm sandy and the boston marathon bombings. she will be leading the conference early tomorrow to head to the presidential debates such as a busy week. next i'm delighted to introduce jared council. jared joined the indianapolis business journal andy covers technology and finance. before joining them he worked as a reporter on jobs and southern indiana in cultural virginia covering beats including crime, city government and defense contracting. he is one state why joseph awards in virginia and indiana for both investigative recording and technology reporting. emily dreyfuss is wired news and opinion editor. she leads wired new national affairs coverage focusing on
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social upheavals that will shape the future of america. before landing at wired or previous endeavors including acting as a managing editor of cnet social media and homepage as well as executive producing cnet tvs rumor has it. emily will also be speaking a second time today right here in the hall at about 3:30 about her experiences working in the san francisco offices of wired as a telepresence robot. and finally but certainly not least lee, quentin hardy was a deputy technology editor for the "new york times" and formally executive editor for forms of media. he began his career at "the wall street journal" and is witnessed was on diverse topics such as the internet, africa, finance and hardware and software, management, satellite, energy and the marijuana industry.
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congratulations. [inaudible] >> he began his career as an international publisher and its lived and worked in a dozen countries including japan, singapore and united kingdom. i'd only, the bureau chief and san francisco was not able to be a today. she is still going to be one of the final judges for the student writing contest and we hope katy can join us next year. our moderator today is the widely known steve cowley. steve is lead author of two books, a former columnist for men's fitness magazine from a magazine editor of 1330 esquire pic is now our senior strategist for stem and public affairs. now, please sign your devices but don't put them away. we hope to see you tweeting for the hashtag dawn or doom or posting to facebook, snapchat, instagram or whatever other
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local poison you prefer. please join me in welcoming our journalists. thank you. [applause] >> thanthank you, gerry. thanks everyone for coming. we are going to start off with what hope is a very easy question. so starting with the jared, could you tell us a little bit about where you went to school and just a bit about your current job, what do you do? >> yeah, so 28 years old, born in philly, went to hampton university and, which is not far from virginia beach, and graduated in 2010, and so i been in journalism for about six years now, and i think i've been a geek for about 28 years. i just love learning about stuff and i kind of got introduced to journalism as a come his way to
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learn about stuff and tell others about what you learn and get paid for it. so that's kind of what attracted me. and like i said, graduated 2010, work and southern indiana. my first job out of college covered crime and government therethere, and then moved to virginia in 2012 and covert defense contracting, tourism, so what is so forth. and to use after that, finally moved to indianapolis and it was my first time covering anything related to technology. i don't have any background in tech, didn't get a degree in tech but i knew had to talk to people and tell stories this is really attracted to the field because of the promise and the perils as this whole conference is about. these days i cover, i cannot kind of look at it in two ways. i cover not only i guess
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technology business of software that businesses use to run their businesses better better, wheths marketing or procurement. so i cover all of that but also the business of technology in terms of how do you start a tech company, how do do you raise money for it and ultimately how do you chart a path for a successful exit. that's about it. >> natalie? >> i'm natalie diblasio with "usa today." i have moved to san francisco to work with our technology team in december. before that i was in charge of a fitness publication in virginia that was online only, and before that i was with "usa today" for three and half years as a braking is reported. i went to the university of vermont, and my job now, okay, so i work in a pure of "usa
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today" which has significantly fewer people and a headquarters. i'll write tech and breaking news and help manage our paper social media strategy but also work with the tech reporters and are west coast reporters to make sure we are optimizing anybody social media presence and helping everyone elevate themselves on as many platforms as we can. >> thanks. emily? >> i'm emily dreyfuss with "wired" magazine. i went to wesleyan university in connecticut and i was an english major and i stumbled into journalism because i know idea what somebody who's only skill was writing would do after college. it suddenly occurred to me that journalists get paid to write words, so i became a reporter -- >> that used to be true. >> well, i got paid very little to be frank. my first job was as a report at a tiny newspaper on the coast of
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connecticut and i was the only staff writer on the paper. i had zero experience but that didn't matter. i wrote about crime which we actually did have some. i had to cover standoff in the streets but also covered the building of the new skate park and i was the restaurant reviewer and the playhouse reviewer. i did little bit of everything. and from there i just fell in love with the craft of journalism, and i became an editor. i moved out two sandwiches go as well and that's all of them away into technology journalism, because san francisco is where tech is everywhere. i was not, i didn't identify as a geek. i kind of thought to myself i'm going to get out of this and go back to the literary arts, but i quickly realized that technology is everywhere and is inescapable. i sort of bring the perspective of the reluctant technologist to my coverage of the tech world because i think whether you are super into it and you are a
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gadget hound, or not, technology is happening to you and that's the perspective i like to take on all the coverage. at at wired i'm trying to take the perspective in how technology hits every aspect of our lives and take right now look at the presidential election. >> hikes. quentin? >> i definitely went to a couple of colleges and have some degrees but i think there's a couple other things that are sort of more interesting where my work has been sort of one enzyme third-generation on both sides of my family and journalism, cartoonist and writers and businesspeople. so watching what's happening now is of interest. and the others i spent 13 years overseas. i started out as a traveling salesman and then i was a correspondent in tokyo back in the days when we were worried american high school students were not learning enough japanese. that will give you some perspective. so in some sense i'm back in the traneight, something like a
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foreign foreign correspondent, and that's really appropriate stance to take in the kind of thing uncovering now. because emily just said something really important. technology is now shopped through every the internet used to be a place, now essentially the internet pervades all of society, all of the physical world, the way we think about things, in some ways has the tropes of the internet in very important ways. what i'd like to do is try and look at that as a braking phenomenon, but even more is to go to nonobvious places where it's taking hold and try, by using the off-center approach, shifting peoples views about things. a couple years ago i was north of you writing about a family farm in indiana that had to become so data smart, or i went to north dakota and wrote about the drug industry outside of grand forks, or i went down to texas and wrote about what it's like to be a high school football coach in an age where everything is being videoed all
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the time and you're getting all these instant messages from people with 30-second shot of the kids doing a tackle. it's an entirely different dynamic. so that's what i do. >> thank you, quinn. i will come right back to you. so what do you like most about your job? what motivates you to go back into the office everyday? >> decides on the golf umbrella? know. i like, i mean, i get to go to school. it's fantastic. i get up in the morning and i think what's the coolest thing i can think about today and who can i talk to about it? peoples to pick up the phone when the press calls. they are really welcoming. they want to explain themselves, want to be understood. it's a tremendous honor and responsibility to try to present that fairly. it's just a blast. >> emily, even if you're going into the office as a robot, what motivates you to go in? >> i think that just the fact that all have to do all day is think.
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i get to think and be curious about things. i read the newspaper wake up under read the new york times, i read "usa today." i read local newspapers and that i think what do i have to say about that and what can we contribute and where else can we look and what more is there to say? that's just fine. >> natalie? >> i have a lot of questions all the time. when i'm with my friends in social situations, they tend to be like stop interrogating the over driver. so when i get to work i'm allowed to indulge my never ending questioning. i think the same thing. everyday i get to go in and learn something new. the cool thing about journalism is you go to work every day and you are honing the story selling skills, no matter what platform whatever it is totally different because the news is totally different. a perfect about working toward something and working toward something completely different
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everyday. >> and jared? >> i agree with all of that. but i think more specifically, i like where i'm at in journalism, in terms of being able to cover the technology industry in central indiana. for decades, i'm sure as many of you know, the tech scene here in terms of startups and financing has really been a desert out here. back in the late 1980s, it started to change the look that with folks like bob compton and don brown, interactive intelligence, really planting the seeds for this ecosystem to grow. and today i feel like i'm on the front end of a growth story with technology here in central indiana. and his list is a household at a publicly traded company. interactive intelligence while
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it's not so much household name, they just had a $1.4 billion -- month or two ago. the biggest story is target which started out as a digital marketing company aimed at laundromats, to now or i'm sorry, a few years ago selling, sales force. we are still seeing the ripple effects of all of that in terms of folks going out and becoming investors are starting their own companies or just lending their skills to startups. i appreciate being able to be described to cover all about. >> there are a lot of exciting things happening here in central indiana although we can put our own spin on it. a lot of high-tech for example, going on. so this is for anyone. is anything about your job that surprises you or has surprise you when you went to your
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current position? anyone just jump in. >> i've got some. there's a lot of things that surprised me. i think the first thing is how very different our audiences are, do they know what platform we are reaching them on. people defined "usa today" on snapchat are consuming news completely differently and are not also consuming news on their mobile app. same thing for tablet users, facebook, people that are reading as, no matter where, they are reading us for different reasons. and also when it comes to understanding the content, people are all over the map as far as if they are really, really already interested in something or if they're totally new to a topic. we are finding that we're doing, like when, for example, when the fbi wanted to get into the iphone after the san bernardino shooting. we wrote a story about how the
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cap at the remote and explainer about why it would even matter that raking in the phone might have consequences down the road. then we need to write a story about how people reacting to it. the reason is the slot to talk about but also because people understand completely different things about a topic. because with such a broad audience, i was surprised to realize how many different ways need to write an phrase things, to reach everyone whether at on the platforms they are at. >> i didn't expect that. whitten, the "new york times" has seen and he knows about the change and is a leader in changing journalism. so how much, what sort of surprises to you? >> what surprises me? what surprises me would be the appetite the readers have for difficult subjects. they always have, but it used to be chinese foreign-policy or it was very politically driven.
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and people are extremely hungry to know more about what tech is doing. it's transforming everything in the world. they are willing to go very deep and learned things with much more depth than you would expect. and then i think the question is also about the times itself and what is surprising in that. the amount of video, we get fantastic designers, the experiments in an omission which i think is extremely powerful. the way we are having different sorts of relationships with the reader, much more direct, where various newsletters and e-mail reminders and whatever become extremely important in having this kind of bilateral relationship. there's a feature called what we are reading where various reporters will pick out things elsewhere on the web. people are interested in that. they want to know what else am i looking at?
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this is a very popular item. so what's that is telling you is it's really nice to people died in my opinion or whatever but they are also developing this relationship with the reporter at the paper which is to be a relationship with a paper generally. we are going to where that goes. >> that is interesting. i know a lot of outlets encourage people of the own social media presence. >> within reason. you can fill that in off-line if you want. >> can i say something? i don't know if this is a surprise, but it never ceases to astonish me, and that's the lack of diversity in the field. i'm the first black reporter at my paper, which are started in 1980, and rarely do i encounter folks of color covering a beat or in positions like me,
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covering this industry. speaking why do you think that is? >> well, i don't know. it's probably a whole host of reasons. i think, i mean, take a black for example. we are 13% of the country but when you look at diversity surveys on google and facebook, we make up two, 3% of that at some of these companies. i wouldn't put all minorities in there because we see i think a proportionate number of asians or indians, but blacks and hispanics, it's just, we are largely missing. in terms of the reasons, like i said, we did kind of have a whole panel discussion on that but i think one reason might be well. when you look at -- wealth. when you look at african-american wealth it's a slice of what caucasian wealth
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is in this country. that matters when you have an idea to start a company but didn't have any friends or family to come to the right that first see check. you know, it matters when, if you want to pursue and i give much about the luxury to take off work or quit your job. i think that's one reason. and why that is, not exactly sure, but i think the the way we can kind of turned the tide or at least begin to, i'm sure there are tons of efforts already underway, but i think people want to be what they see. if we have more minorities in executive positions, tristan walker is one person who comes to mind. he runs the shaving company, you know, people, it actually give somebody something to emulate, you know. i think by large color shouldn't
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matter but it does. if you don't have folks in an industry, again, that can can serve as examples for people to aspire to be, i mean, it's it's a tough sell. >> i think you are right. i appreciate you bringing that up and you're right we should have a panel. maybe next year we will. >> can i dovetail off what jed was saying? i think it's an important point and it's not just a problem in the industries we cover but it's a really big problem in journalism itself. i think you really right to bring up that various and the cost of entry and journalism is like that. our industry is really dependent on unpaid internships as a way in. in order to be up to afford to take an unpaid internship you need to have family support and institutional support the hide you cannot make money for three months on my case i first writing gig in connecticut that
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started as an unpaid internship after college, and then it turned into a staff writer position where i got paid money. and that i think really contribute to lack of diversity as a barrier to entry into the field. and then, there's a million problems that percolate up and result in a whiteness in journalism. but another thing is the segregation of our networks and how we find people to work with. because it is this whiteness the very beginning and other people you're working with 80 are not a person of color, and so than when you're thinking of hiring someone for a job, you reach out to your own network. we are a diverse country but we're a segregated country for a multitude of reasons and people, whether they intend to or not, with absolutely benign neglect reach out to those that they know. we know people who are like us and, therefore, we insulate ourselves. it's a really big problem.
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we also in journalism have this thing where you want to cover all topics, but if you look at any of our organizations, we cover the topics that as we set are interested, are interesting to us. when we wake up and we like what is a thing i want to talk about today, this is important with different types of people in the newsroom asking questions. what's interesting to me and what's interesting to quit and will be different to someone else. we are grappling with this at wired. it's a real problem and we desperately need other voices in our newsroom. i have no idea what the solution is other than to just, if you are a nonwhite man wanting to go into journalism, please do. please do. do it. >> it's a very important topic, and we will be returning to that, you're right. that deserves more attention. so i think everyone here except
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for emily and works at a tech publication sort of has the beat of tech. i guess emily, your publication. >> that's fair. >> okay. but as we read the news these days seems tech is ever would. so in politics you stories about e-mail servers and cybersecurity, so many business stories about some new tech development. is there still a tech beat, or all reported tech reporters now? >> i think because so much conversation happened on social media and where considering social media tech, we talked about that in our newsroom about what is new technology and are these companies, social communication platforms tech? we decided they are. right now in the evenings the date of politics will happen and then the night of twitter and
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facebook and like write a commentary to send on, and then what the night stories into being is what people are talking about. in addition -- what happens is the news happens and then people talk about it and we do on the street interviews. but also that they conversatio conversations, strangers are argue with each other like fiercely on social media. that is what's happening. it's almost like we need to cover conversation socially as a metro beat. what is edwin saint in new york city, in the twitter verse? so in that way there's always a tech infused social feedback piece spirit i think a social media metro desk would be fascinating. quinton? >> let me spend a second on that. in a world where 98% i think of
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wall street trading is computer-driven, or where the president is putting less money into an aircraft carrier or more money into cia and nsa, or where agriculture is about, involves genetic modifications of crops, everything is a tech store and a reporter thinks they are a tech reporter, which is just fantastic for people like me and natalie to spend our lives sweating bullets to get this stuff right. jared, too. everybody thinks, i got that one. no, you don't. i really wish you would talk to me about that. that's just a family stuff. there is still tech reporting though, which is spotting that crossover of science and engineering into commerce, and that fuzzy area where things are being developed and invented, and they're hopeful hopeful that they haven't attached to the
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world or they are attaching to the world in some novel way. they are not baked in yet and that's a very rich patch right now. >> to work in tech journalism, to be a text editor or reporter do you need a background in engineering computer science? or is it more about the reporting? >> i think it depends on what part of tech you are doing. for me i don't have a background in it, and i am a tech editor. i assigned stories and i write story on cybersecurity and robotics in the future of work. i learned on the job. i definitely need of technical skills because, but i hold them at cnet and at wired it but i do think some of the best reporters we have let saint cybersecurity which a very complicated topic and in order to explain and airgap attacked at the computer you really need to know about the injury and how things work. one of our reporters does have
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technical background and the other one doesn't, but they are equally adept in a conversation is because as 40th axis of talking to all the experts. as long as you know which questions ask, you can learn. you are good at learning. i don't think you do need to but it depends but if it's very, very technical i think it would probably be very helpful. >> i think having a variety of reporters with a variety of different backgrounds helps because, i have this column and what it is about is i just moved to the bay area and i'm a millennial unlike every millennial who is interested in tech wants them to debate any. it's expensive and ridiculous, and when you're there it's like being in a different world because everyone talks about ann thousand and understand these things that don't matter everywhere else or are not happening yet. my stories are coming at it from that lens. it's like outsiders view of an insiders place for everything is like kind of a latin in this weird new tech way.
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but that being said, we've got, our cybersecurity report is brilliant and she's great. when i was tasked with helping with the story i didn't even realize what i didn't know. so having her around to kind of bounce ideas off of or to handle some of it was wonderful. so i do think it helps to have all of it because our readers are looking for all different kinds of understanding of technology. >> so my next question may be a little bit of inside baseball, but science writing and medical writing i recognize as specially feels within journalism and they have their own conventions and things like medical writing, the rule on when you can write about studies. there is a national association of science writers. there is a medical writers association to s. res. i know there is no technology writers
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association, national association. is technology writing -- >> by technology you mean computers basically? it such a broad term. >> and that's what i'm sort of what i'm asking. is technology so broad that there is not a specialty field of technology? be think it will be or do you think as technology continues to spread, that as we were saying earlier, perhaps every writer will be a technology writer? do you think you will become its own specially? >> i think it is to be its own specialtspecially and it isn't . back 20 years ago when cnet was first started and wired was first started it was very much a niche think that was focused on gadgets, and to computers and how we're going to shrink down tips and what the internet was going to do. now, that is a pervasive part of all of life.
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at wired people are constantly referring to wired as a technology magazine, though that's a really how we see ourselves anymore, only because we see technology so much a part of society that we think we are covering a bit of everything. we haven't entertainment desk and a national affairs desk and dislikdecide to desk. and science writing, which is a very intense specialty because it's so hard to understand what ph.d is our publishing insights and nature journals that you really need a specialized person to be able to interpret it. we have that all under the umbrella of what i think if i consider tech writing. >> therthere's some people in te audience right now that are looking at the phones behind consumer products that were manufactured in china by cheap laborers. they are checking social media. so they're going to these organizations, some which are inside amazon web services, these enormous cloud computing services and are using that computing to map social
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relationship beauty -- using artificial intelligence. there's like five different tech stories just and someone sitting right there looking at the phone. it's kind of the egg. where do i stop? >> automatic. [inaudible] spirit we encourage you all to be posting a social media about this panel. >> basically have it checked my twitter and 20 minutes and the kind of making me nervous. [laughter] >> it's a real change for events like this were used to be people run the phones you thought you were failing. now if they're not on the phones you know something is wrong because they are not posting anything. there's so many product developments and company announcements in technology. i also don't know how you all keep up. but it does make me wonder, so with all this daily churn, do you think technology stories
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you're missing or you would like, you wish had more time to spend every? >> yes. >> are you asking if i'm paranoid? >> i think there's so much happening, so the people developing so many cool things and so many people that are trying to get, so because facebook was successful, succese that is in the start of world dreams of being the next facebook. s&s am an idea which makes anyone, they're running with it. i probably get speedy which facebook -- [inaudible] >> sorry. >> we were getting inside. that's the hazards. you can get so far in hoping it's going to be the next thing, what's called falling inside with your source spirit visit got to be true. this guy is so great. i love this thing, you know? kind of an example o falling in
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love with your source and hoping your spot at the next best thing. i almost wanted -- >> do you all know what an talking about? >> it was a company that, the coverage took a different direction in the spring and -- >> it wasn't everything that turned out to be fake. >> it's a great idea if it would work. everyone would want to be true. >> sweat vodka is a good idea. >> hashtag. >> silicon valley is promising to make the world a better place. that's than narrative that is being sold to us. as tech journalists one of the things we have to be on guard for as i think quentin is making people foresaw a false promise. it's sort of easy sometimes to see it because places will also
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something that is so absurdly but now that you would never give them the credit that they want. they will say like it's almost like the 30 rock add where they were like do you ever have trouble putting bread in the toaster? know, no one has ever had that problem. silicon valley is often trying to solve problems that don't exist just to make your life more convenient. but it was a blood technology company that was saying there is a high cost to get medical tests done. if we could make this easier and we should be able to because science has all of his abilities. if you could it at home and make it fast and streamline it than that would be great. and we as journalists, a lot of us, maybe not particularly on the stage but our colleagues and a whole industry was like that's a great idea. and we let them tell it. >> i'm going to come to you with the next question but i'm not
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trying to imply anything. do you think tech journalists, , and can because of the speed of news, do you think tech journalists sometimes end up erring on the side of being cheerleaders for industry? >> two things. first i would say i think sometimes we in the media business at large but especially in technology, we have short attention spans. we will cover something because it's what's new and what's next and it's hot. and then we won't really follow it through. i think one example of that, no offense to anyone here, but when three d printing was what was hot a few years ago, it was kind of like the way, this going to change change lives dramatically in the next two years and we haven't really seen that. i think for the most part a lot of these technologies, they take time to gain traction. they can be the best idea in the world but at the moment is it right?
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the moment isn't right. look at virtual reality technology in the '90s. kind of the window wasn't open yet. i think sometimes we can just again focus all this attention and say hey hey, this is next bg thing, when it really has yet to prove itself out. as far as being cheerleaders, like i think that sometimes the stories were telling are not really that sexy so we have two spice it up and get peoples attention. you know, whether it's self-driving cars or drones or whatever. and i don't think we are being cheerleaders by doing that, as long as we can talk about the reality and the hurdles that are present for whatever the technology is. >> i was just going to say that i think even without trying to be a cheerleader, just writing about a company in a way that isn't immediately like
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condemning it is cheerleading it in a way because there are so many companies and everyone is just fighting to get noticed. social media, people are not necessarily reading the story. they're just think the headline and if your company is named, your higher in search results. your data will get that specter facebook page will get more views. just by writing about the ones that might be interesting, by picking one of nothing other, giving that company a giant like jump over its competitors and in that way it's not cheerleading but it is like, just a properly timed interesting enough start up falling in your lap can really change the game for the startup. ..
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i'm guilty of for sure but it's like, you know , now their noses on its knees but somebody's probably goingto figure out spotting proteins for disease tracking and at that point we will be exhausted and we will go oh yeah , and not recognize that something can do magic has just occurred in the world 's i think as emily said, these are things that we are at least attempting to solve problems in our society,
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problems that we have globally and we want to see progress and i think a lot of us are on the dawn, we want to see human progress and i think it sort of comes down sometimes in our writing we are seeing big progress and big changes and no one is excited. it's like, we are taking a substantial step forward on the right direction in this front, kind of so that's just what you are ... >> the kind of incremental improvements. >> is also true for who we depend on to write the story. people don't want the process story. i am constantly saying to scientists i want to hear the story about all the failures that went into you coming to this discovery because they will publish a paper that took them 10 years to get to this result and i find it fascinating to hear about the disappointments and at the
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time they thought the cells were going to give them the data they wanted and they didn't but individual researchers and companies don't want to talk about that because that quote unquote, bad press. >> i once talked to a guy who was building a refinery of failure so that other scientists would see that's what you're in for. a social network of i'mgoing to try this , or forget it, it doesn't go quite it's so helpful. >> but the other thing is, we're kind of covering delusional people . >> you have to be. >> otherwise, if you knew the odds on what a startup is and how often they fail, you wouldn't get out of bed. in the technology they're making has been so transformative that they see shaping the world, they don't just see building a product. elon musk last week said here's how i'm going to colonize mars. and i mean, okay.
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>> but he might just be the one to do it. >> he's the far end of the true thing. >> so hashtag, delusional press people and i apologize, we are running a little bit shy on question so we have time for a couple questions there's a mic appear if anybody has a question for the panelists . since this is being recorded, if you would ask your questions at the microphone, we would appreciate it . >> i appreciate all of you being here. we've got a variety of panelists here, two editors, two reporters and emily mentioned waking up in the morning and wondering what am i going to cover today? for the reporters, how do you decide what to cover and for the editors, how do you assign and how has that changed over the last few years? >> okay, i'll start.
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i am the morning news editor as well as the national affairs editor so there's always kind of two different timelines. there is one of the stories that we are working on on a longer timescale because we've assigned them, the reporters are working on them for weeks or months depending on how much research they need to do and that's something i have in the back of my mind, knowing when those are going to come in but in terms of mourning assignments and looking at how i decide what other people need to be talking about, social media has really changed this equation for me and twitter has become a resource that i rely on almost too much for this moment because there are two different movements, one is, is it important enough that we are already talking about it and it's something out there that we need to weigh in on because of this moment it's happening or is there a thing that no one else has discovered yet and we need to be focused on bringing it to their attention? i look at social media for the former and to discover
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the latter, i either depend on my reporters who will bring me hedges or i have my proprietary secret places of the internet and the world that i am looking in an effort not to let anyone see all the tabs that i have because that's my secret way in to try to get it out of me. >> i like the way you framed that. to me, it's a little bit different because i am not a reporter focus solely on central indiana and a lot of times, there's already stories out there that pr folks are pushing and that companies are trying to sell, whether it's a fundraiser or a new hire and that's the stuff that everybody has and if it is important enough, we are going to go after it but we're always trying to find those distinctive storiesthat nobody is telling . i'll give you an example,
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about a month or so ago, gop which is this hot tech company based out of chicago opened up an office in indianapolis last year and said they wanted to hire 300 people by, i want to say 2018 and last month, i got a text saying this is eric, what's going on with wikipedia and come to find out they were laying people off and it was like okay, if this company is signed a dealto hire this many people , and now they're laying people off, it's a big deal so i started calling, he was largely unreachable, he was at some conference and couldn't call but i said you used to work at gop yet, by looking at the linkedin pages and folks that i knew there and finally, finally got the story and when i talked to the ceo of it all, this is
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obviously a story they are not going to want to push. they want to make these layoffs and keep it moving but when i talked to him he was like, how did you find out about this so quickly, i just told the employees area and i gave credit to my sources for that one but those are the type of stories that i think to go back to what you were saying about cheerleading, we need to cover the good stories, we need to cover the companies that are hot and have a lot of promise but we also need to chronicle the ones that are struggling or that fail to really make sure we're getting both sides. >> we will make one more question and make it quick . >> thank you so much for attending. my question is on, sometimes when you look at tech news it's like chasing everything that school. as a bystander, from laugh yet indiana who has no involvement in terms of what uber is doing, do you think text have a responsibility


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