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option b. followed by libby chamberlain's account of her facebook group that turned into a political movement , pantsuit nation and wrapping up our look at politics and prose list of best-selling nonfiction books is pulitzer prize winning author alan taylor's history of the american revolution. >> some of these authors have or will be appearing on tv, youcan also watch them on our website, tv.org. >> . >> accumulated darling, tonight were pleased to present from the congressman radio host trey radials signing for his new book "democrazy". join me in welcoming trey radel. >> thank you so much, thank you very much, nice to meet you. >> i'm i left my cell phone. >> thank you all so much for coming, that's the flashlight and that there. >> how are we doing? >> you so much for coming by,
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this is a little intimidating. to be honest with you, first of all and my good ear, do you need me to stay stationary? i will stay put which i'm really not good at doing. so let me start with just a big thank you. you know, writing this book was a tough process. get me wrong, it's a lot of fun and will get that but it was a little cathartic and so i've been out there and i've been doing the national media but this is home. and you're my neighbors, your family. >> and the first thing i really actually feel obligated to say is i'm sorry if i let anybody down. my life has a lot of ups and downs. you've got to keep side of what's important. i went through a lot, to be clear, i had and have my health. >> my family, and you, here today so thank you so much for coming here, i really
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appreciate you coming by night for this, it's really cool for me. all right, so it's a little heavy. if anybody's read any of the book at all or if you've listened on radio, you know i've always taken what i do seriously but i don't take myself . sleep and so we can have some fun, we can do q&a, i'm happy to talk about anything if you have any questions at all, i will tell you if you listen to the station, maybe you have certain political stripes. i have been, i've done everything i can to invite people from all different backgrounds here tonight. i don't care, let's be clear up front whether you're reading the book "democrazy" or if we're having a conversation, i don't care if you're a democrat or republican, i don't care if you're liberal or conservative, what i found in washington is just how much at the end of the day we have in common. you don't see it on let's take two extremes, msnbc or fox but in the belly of the
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beast of washington, the truth is that there's really good people there. and at the end of today, one thing i learned is it's not really democrat versus republican, often times it's americans versus the system. and the way the system works. >> so while i, i break down kind of how the sausage is made. in washington dc in the book but at times it's so ridiculous it's hilarious. >> and so i take you through some of the ways that money is influential and other ways that is really not as influential as you might think it is. money really moves the infrastructure of parties. so when you get to it, if you haven't gotten to it yet, i can maybe bust out my impression of john boehner a little bit later. has anybody had a chance to read it? all right.
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so i take you through life what it was like meeting john boehner not too far from here in naples. and what it's like, what it was like through my set of eyes. and again, when i tried to do in the book is not really get partisan acting, very talking points. >> i'm not in it, it's not any sort of, well, maybe there's a little redemption and maybe some of that is happening right now tonight thus hanging out talking and being with each other but it is not like a holier than thou book and it is not like any political book that i promised you've ever read, unless it was written by somebody like unser s thompson. a few of you got that. and it is certainly not like any republican book i promise you that. and i don't know how many of you are republican, but i have fun with it. i want to show that again, whether your democrat or
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republican, some of the ridiculousness that goes on in washington dc but at the end of the day and i can't stress this enoughthat there truly are good people in washington . who are working to improve your life. that may sound like political speech but really what i found is that while i think it's often not necessarily democrats versus republicans, it's more like americans versus the system the way it works, the reality is most members of congress really want this to think. they make solid opportunities for the people in their district, and for their kids and families. really what it's a question of is how we get there. and that's where it gets tough. when you hear this talk about these are the most partisan times ever, we went through that during a thing called the civil war which was pretty intense for the country so while we are in hyper- partisan times, the
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country's always been that way. it's always been a struggle of more government or less government. how much do we need here, how much do we need they are, where do we cut, we cut and one of the things in my book is i don't really get into social issues. i'm pretty libertarian on quite a bit. sometimes i'mmisconstrued as liberal , a bleeding heart liberal. i'm libertarian in the way i think government shouldn't have a whole lot to do with your personal decisions . but i think the battle with more government or less government is often in the context of time. so for example during world warii , maybe it was better to have a little bit more government while i thoroughly disagree with bailout, you would find a lot of people that would argue for them . but again, if some of it is in the context of the time we're living in, of where we need more or less. as a conservative i generally
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way toward left is way better for everybody that we may have differing opinions. that said, i have never written a book before so i don't know what i'm supposed to do here and i'm looking for guidance from anybody. i could, please, if anybody's about to step up, i could do q&a, i can read a little bit if you want me to be cheesy here. what's that? don't read any? there's no spoilers are or anything. there are some things that are spoilers, surprises in this book. >> we can do questions and answers if you want to read a little bit i like talking. let's do q&a and i'll repeat all the questions if anybody can't hear you in the crowd, tell here question. >> and then maybe wherever, if i think part of the book is appropriate to the question, we can do that too. you have no idea how hard it is for me to stand behind the podium without walking around and not looking for
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the camera. please. >> i wanted to know if you made friends in the house and if they kept up with you or did everybody turn their back . >> did anybody bail out on you? >> i made a few friendships with a few members of congress. i will tell you to the two of them are democrats, one is a far left liberal. i joke around in the book, one of the first things i did in congress, albeit a short time, were going to have a little self-deprecating humor here, hang with me. that january that i was sworn in i made it a point to go meet every florida democrat i served with. and i did it because of course i'd already met every republican in the delegation and i knew i'd be talking with the republicans every day, meetings in and out of meetings every day but i went to go meet with florida democrats because like anything in life, you cannot
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get anything done unless you have a relationship with people. and i think that's fortunately in washington, you're missing a whole lot. it's for multiple reasons. it's because people leave immediately to go fund raise. people bust out of a regular day in washington where there in washington dc on a monday through thursday or tuesday through friday, 5:00 or whatever rolls around when you get done with your committees and you go out and you raise money and a ton of money is devoted to a ton of time devoted to money, a lot of money is devoted to time, it goes hand-in-hand in washington but so there's just so much focus on that. and people leave. people leave immediately to go home.let me say something to tax that conventional wisdom.while i think it is important our members of congress are in june with the people they serve and i mean literally,
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physically shaking hands in hearing from people, i've got to say it's just as important and sometimes more important that they keep their butts, i'm going to watch myself, in washington dc because if they're not in washington, often times are at home raising money for their getting caught up in an chamber and that can be the far left, the far right, moderates, everett might be. and typically, a human being we tend to stay in on little echo chambers. to make it worse, google, yahoo, being, they based on what you search for, when you search for news if you tend to visit let's say fox news or msnbc use two different extremes, they will keep you in that silo. >> i think that members of congress, yes they need to be home but they should also be in washington which brings us back to personal relationships. >> one of the things that's missing that was prevalent a lot in the 80s and 90s is members of congress would get to know each other.
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and they get to know their spouses. and they get to know their children. and it's a whole lot harder to talk smack about somebody and when you know their eight-year-old might be watching. it's a whole lot harder to stick your finger in the eye of somebody or call them the devil or whatever the word of the day is when you actually know them. >> so with that said, i met some democrats and that far left liberal one still in touch with today, i sent her character up in here, i thought about going to meet people and that i talk about going to meet these vile, debbie wasserman schultz. and i thought, again, and having fun with it, like in the book i'm going boo, yes, don't call me debbie wasserman schultz. that's what i've been saying and i talk about how often times, a little audio issue here. how often times, oh, it's this? here we go.
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do you need this? do you all need this? >> is it better for the people in the back this way? okay. >> so i went to meet debbie wasserman schultz and i remark on how i did radio before i ran for congress and i'm like talking about how, my god, i used to talk a lot of smack about her on the radio, is she going to shake me? what's going to happen and it turned out she is one of the nicest people i've ever met. she's very kind, empathetic, sympathetic in my ups and downs and i remain in touch today. i fundamentally, radically disagree with her on a lot of issues. >> and that's one of the things that came out of washington and you know, if she's going to run again, no. i'm never running for congress again and that's one of the reasons i can see these things but i had a relationship with debbie wasserman schultz and she's a
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nice person and a good person. a congress men, it's a little tough to say that and that's one of the unfortunate part of today. >> one other question. >> debbie wasserman schultz, i love her, she's so funny. >> i don't know how you mean that but okay. >> she's hilarious. >> that being said, why do people come home from washington and hear us but never listen to us. >> they never go back and hear what we have to do. >> they go back and do what they want instead. >> depends on where you stand on issues and ultimately at the end of the day, the biggest battle for a member of congress is what you your conscience demands you do, how you feel in your heart that balancing that with what the constituents want because it's not always the same. i think sometimesmembers of congress , they over complicate things. >> it's incumbent in congress
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to get rid of obamacare and you go in there and say we're not going to do that now. >> let's leave leave out the here and now, this political situation is the craziest ever. i don't know how to make sense of it and i've been a political animal since i was 15 years old. when you talk about voting someone in to get rid of obamacare, let's to take a look at the present situation. let me see something outside that if you're a democrat, republican, i care. i want to get a raw assessment and let me say it out loud, right now donald trump , the president, the republican president is not only attacking the most conservative members of congress, he's targeting them. he's saying i'm going to knock you out of the primary. the way it used to be and when i say i used to be isaiah 5 minutes ago before all the insanity we've been through in the last couple years, is that if you're a republican, you fear an
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attack on the primary from the right. so if you're in a republican district, you fear that somebody's going to step up and say i'm more conservative than this guy were you fear what are called outside groups and this is another thing i go into in the book of these organizations that are 501(c)(3), 501(c) four so without getting into the dynamics, their groups that can drop $1 million into a race in the primaries, heritage freedom, there are a very powerful organization. i dealt with them very much so on almost everything. it's always different, a little bit on foreign-policy i tend to be a little more libertarian but republicans fear that. what's crazy about what's happening right now is that number one, i don't know what conservative or right is and number two, it's not just now the, these grassroots organizations, the 501(c)
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force have public, their fearing the trump campaign machine. it's just a bizarre time. let me stop that and put some context, i do believe that donald trump is a dealmaker. i hope that ends up with conservative policy but there's part of me that in the way that i've watched him campaign and study him and be amazed by him, i'm going to remove good and bad by the way, i want to take emotion out of this but i do wonder if this is another tactic because the man was chock full of tactics. the whole way through. and it may be another way he's going to shake up the system as he promised to do and get people to vote his way, whether or not that's conservative policy, time will tell. what's up, anything else? we can chat about anything, whatever you want. >> a little bit about a personal question i'm sure it's in the book somewhere but very few people go
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through what you went through and as publicly as you went through it. both as a celebrity and a member of congress and i think it speaks volumes to your character that you were able to withstand the slings and arrows from all over the place and come back and i like to know what was that during that time, was your faith, your family, what was it inside of you that gave it to you to come back. >> my wife. >> yes, look, i went through some dark times. >> i, when we talk about like i went through some dark times but again i want to be clear that it was yes, there's no question that was awful. i mean, you name the news network, i was on it and i was named with a terrible moniker which i don't want to repeat because it stings, had a nice rhyme to it though.
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and man, it was convenient. but they call me representative, not congressman so i digress. so i write about rolling hot wheels on the floor with my kid and feeling incredibly blessed because again, i had my health and even when you look at the legal situation and all that, i was very lucky. even with the idiotic decisions i made, let's be clear. i don't, i don't make excuses in this book. >> i just make really terrible decisions that hurt my family, that hurt my friends, and her people that i worked with. all of whom are here tonight, i heard a lot of people. but i would roll hot wheels on the floor and be like, i'm so blessed. i'm so lucky i have my family and i'm playing with my kid and starting to learn about batman and superman and the school comics. and then there would be these waves of justice like all my gosh. what did i do to my life?
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i threw everything away. as time is the ultimate healer of wounds i believe for a lot of the ups and downs i've had, a lot of the tragedies and successes and losses and all that. >> time helps heal but family was the ultimate sort of glue. >> thank you. >> your sure making it tough. >> yes. >> turner evans. >>. >> i think term limits for every member of congress unless i'm serving in congress. >>. >> yes, i do. i think that you see legislatures around the united states that implement term limits and have by the way shortened sessions that they get in, they, there's the clichc again, they crank out the sausage and they're done and you've got balanced budgets, you got solid policy.
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nightly in florida, there's always questions, what should you not do but i believe in term limits, i believe they be a good thing. let me take a step further though. i think that i don't know what the answers are. >> but maybe there's a way to completely rethink the entire system. here's what i mean by that. maybe, just maybe, long one term would be like a one six-year term for i don't know what the number is but maybe anything you do an eight year term for a number of the united states senate. and i don't know what it is, a five-year term for the house, maybe, just maybe that takes a little bit of the local burden of fundraising and constantly campaigning because it's every two years, the second thing, you'resworn in the second you're running for your next game. it's in state . >> maybe, that is one of the
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answers is a longer year span but term limits. there's a lot of talk, staff will rule everything and staff will take over and i don't buy that. there is the argument though that the ultimate term limit is the vote at the ballot booth but having been in the belly of the beast, i will say that, very openly , not having any of the weight of having to run again or be in the united states congress, it is a heck of a lot easier to maintain your position when you're being in because there are also ways, one of the things i go into, i'll get into the weeds quickly, i go into like what is called prank email andthere somebody here . >> okay. pride mail is, i hate the term the way you as a member,
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let me step back, sometimes the mind goes a little faster than the mouth. you have to rules when you're in congress or senate, campaign and your role as a federal lawmaker. you never ever mix the two and i will say that all of the members of congress, i never saw any mixing, i never saw abuse of office but i'll tell you one way that maybe, possibly could be abused with taxpayer dollars in terms of incumbency and reelection. you take all the mail and you get a budget in the united states, in your office where you can mail out pieces and you cannot target based on demographics or republican or democrat but you can kind of feel out maybe possibly your strongholds will be, where your voters might be and if you know your district, planned parenthood, let's use device as an example. if you're in a liberal district, when you mail these things out they have to reflect yourvoting record.
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they cannot be political at all, they can't say vote for me. all they can do is state i voted this way and that way, done .and it has to be marked with paid for by our tax dollars. let's say or you're in a left-leaning district and their rapidly fighting for their funding for planned parenthood. they might be able to put out a mailer that says i voted to save funding for planned parenthood. on the other side if you're in republican districts, we need to be fun, you can put out look at this awesome legislation i voted for that stop the funding of planned parenthood. maybe, that could be a little abuse so i use that as one of the examples that just kind of goes to show some of the realities of washington. what else, we will go here and here. >> what's your responsibility as an elected official who is way more educated than the public on an issue saying you represented an area where
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your way more familiar with water quality then it budget educated public and fundamentally got the facts wrong. what's the responsibility of the leader to go with what you know is right for the public #. >> that's kind of a battle that i've been talking about about voting for what is in your heart and head and what you believe in versus sometimes the loudest people in the room. and one of the last things i write in, i'm a new author, i think it's called the acknowledgment section, i write that i'm not there to hop on a moral high horse or preach to members of congress, i hope some of them read it but i say don't always listen to the loudest people in the room. the loudest are not always either the most educated or what is truly the best fit for the district, the constituency or for america. the issues that i sometimes, i know i get fast-forward on the radio talking too much foreign-policy because i get a little in the weeds. in the news today, i fought
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against the obama administration and i don't care if it would have been w's administration or this administration, i am antiwar. i think we are sending our children to fight battles that have been fought for thousands of years and they're coming home without limbs or worse, they are dying. it's a fruitless fight, i don't know what the definition of win is . i'm not running for office. [applause] you're getting me fired up here. that was one of the issues where sometimes i get into a room and people would be like we've got to take the fight to them. >> that was my to stereo typical southern accent. we've got to go for freedom boys. i'm sorry but if you look at iraq today, since we have been there it is corrupt, it is a mess. people are protesting because the infrastructure here is a disservice to the people. and there is a very valid question to be had about how much more stability we had not only in iraq but the
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region with yes, the evil saddam hussein but we cannot be team america like in the south park creators have their movie where puppets flew around the world blowing up something they love. we have to have a more focused foreign-policy and i believe the focus truly needs to be with the mystic policy on what's happening in the united states and where liberals and conservatives can agree and i think they can agree on where we shift our resources from abroad to hear it home whether it's for education or for our veterans. sorry, gino. >> i was returning, i like the ideas but when you come to the committee for where people get more time and more generation which you are a part of but to continue over and over, how would that do because when it comes to committee, how would that be affected?>> i don't have answers. are you in part of the book
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where i talk about getting on the a&e committee? >> is that what you're referring to? you've read part of that? >> so the, thank you. the, so, all right. in congress there are a a and b committee. i share a dirty secret you can read about, is not too much of a spoiler, i promise. especially when john boehner becomes a rock star. so there are, the committees in congress and you knowthem, you are than in passing, the intelligence committee, committee on foreign relations . the transportation infrastructure, or in affairs but they go on and on and whether or not, hi. there are a committees and b committee.a committees are the stellar committees, that's life south beach's hottest club that you want to try to get on but you got the
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big bouncer with the velvet rope won't let you in. a committees are committees like energy , and i'm having a total brain. [bleep] here. ways and means, thank you. ways and means is the best committee to get on because you control what affects everybody in theunited states , tax policy. so if you're affecting tax policy, there's a whole lot of vested interest. i'm going to try to keep this as tight as possible. vested interest meaning where the government inserts itself with the introduction of lobbyists. lobbyists are bad people, the only reason lobbyists exist is because government is in an industry. government is deciding what will your subsidy be, what will your tax break be, where do you stand on this? as long as government is choosing pacific businesses they will subsidize or where they get their 501(c)(3), whatever it may be in the big picture or how they set tax code, that's where the
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lobbyists step into the office and say we need to keep this break, we need to keep this break for pharmaceutical companies to puerto rico, that's an example that we lobbying about. the a committee is wearing you to get that dirty little secret, they raise a lot of money. when you're on a committee and you have vested interest, you want to be able to get you on the phone. lobbyists are going to donate your campaign. >> depart, is how you get on an a or b committee. >> and the way you do it and let me be very clear here, this is democrats and republicans, i'm an equal opportunity shopkeeper about the system and how it works. but when you get on a better committee is how much money you raise for that party's political apparatus. >> think about that for a second. so you've got, was called the
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democratic congressional committee or for the democrats, the republican at rcc, national committee, those are the political arms, separate from what they, what people do as lawmakers but they're the ones who step into a district and are assassinating the competition and boost up the guy that they want in that district was the political arms so more money you raise for them, the better committee you're going. you see is one of these areas where it's kind of like, oh, sure the political is separate from what i do in congress, wink wink. >> and that's part of the way it goes. >> i don't know. >> after that it's a tough question. that would need to be sorted out but what you do in tallahassee is term limits but they do run on the sessions. >> was there a question , yes. >> how do you see the future of bipartisan politics in the trump era where it seems like everything is the extreme on every single issue. >> well, donald trump is now
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reaching out to democrats and i don't know again if that's a tactical measure of negotiating, we will see. >> but bipartisanship does exist. there are , it's not cool to go on the news and be like, look at this water infrastructure bill that all democrats and republicans today. who wants to hear about that when you can hear about, there's this guy shouting at that woman, what update or look, look at these people yelling at each other, there's turmoil and chaos. 5 billion people are going to lose their insurance, people are going to die area that's what the news wants to cover. but will they cover the way that democrats and republicans that was near and dear to my heart as both a libertarian and someone who wanted to reach out to all the numbers on the other side, i work on things like criminal justice reform.
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there are republicans, mostly libertarian leading republicans and many conservatives including all right and working with democrats on these type of things, things like mass incarceration, the spending that we do on mandatory minimums, things like that at the federal level. track and republicans are working together in some areas, but they don't talk about. >> yes. >> what you think about the healthcare thing that they're always talking about. >> i don't know. i mean, it's a complicated mess. i've spoken with members of congress in terms of some of the relationships i have. i talked with people on both sides and voted no. just a little insight, i get to share this on the radio but there was some, from what i've learned, i sound like a ridiculous, like from my sources, as a reporter. but a close friend of mine in congress said what happened
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behind the scenes was that a few members of the freedom caucus promised they were going to come through and left the white house with the deal and renege. >> it's a mess. what is crazy is what happens next, does the governing coalition become president from, democrats and moderate republicans? no, i don't know. it's a fascinating time. >>. >> towards an alternative on section 6. >> what? >> oh, they want total and complete control, chuck schumer, democrats and republicans, a bit when for anybody who doesn't know is a currency that is not monitored , by the federal government . i won't get into nsa talk or anything like that but you know, i occasionally throw on the tinfoil hat and is a distinct libertarian belief
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on civil rights and things like that that says yes, of course they want as much control and they want whatever they can to monitor. monetary transactions. >> you know, there's always been theory that they're not going to phase out the penalty penny, then a phase out the nickel and you know, i don't know. >> i always keep a little cash on hand. well. >> yes. >> from having only currency. >> trump is playing five dimensional chess or whatever, do you think from the decision, with he's doing the internet privacy bill? do you think he's going to do some good, i mean arguably doing some good like repealing the nsa or what you think? >> with respect to the browser data that you're talking about, yes.
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>> i would have gone against most republicans on that and so quick, just to recap as quickly as possible, republicans overwhelmingly voted to allow data from your browser and things like that without getting too much in the weeds your internet service providers. the reality is a lot of that information in various ways is pretty much open as it exists. >> it really wasn't that open, essentially you look at just. >> we totally agree. >> the difference now is all of your information ever is being open to everybody versus a small amount of that data being on google or facebook. >> everything and my belief while you may have a conservative and again, i don't like to put people in
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labels because we are complicated as human beings and politiciansare our candidates are just as complicated, that said , the conservative argument would be its business and everything should be transparent, anything can be bought or sold on the private market, we don't need government regulation. my argument isthe internet is too young. i take can't decide with both , for me it's a little bit of a civil liberties issue. but also the recognition that today the internet, it is something that we truly have no idea of the infinite possibilities of the really positive things that can come from it but also some of the negative when it comes to your information. made immediately available. you look at some of these potential examples of let's even look at like eight, your credit card information with unmasked in similar ways which i believe there are still some regulations on the
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extent of your shopping. if healthcare companies, random examples, if anybody's a smoker, i'm not a smoker but let me use it as an example. if you go to get gas and you pay inside, if they're figuring out that they're paying inside, statistically you're more likely to get be a smoker because you're getting cigarettes, the healthcare company get that information and you bet your premiums will be different. i get that it's a random example but if you begin to really play that out in the way that things like whether or not you're going to get approved for a loan, whether your healthcare, any healthcare company will pick you up, you get to some sticky situations and it's very difficult, that said, let me move on. >> there was one over here. >> is that you? >> i'm sorry, i thought you raised, we can ... >> you went to the point of my original question.
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>> maybe it's one of those research, there's nothing, right now there's a lot of talk where isvs don't have their very limited, they have their fiber here but it was very difficult, you can't throw out malone popeye on the state. >> that essentially or something like that so the fact that those, they limit those basically monopolies, and then those being fully taken away and definitely lobbied by those isps. >> that's the biggest. thus the biggest problem, >> biggest target to be made with the infrastructure, the way it set up i do believe or hope that as we've seen in history, and even recent history that often times what we think is anomaly today is far off the mark and we can use various examples even with infrastructure based
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systems like that. >> this is a conversation we had probably for hours. what else, any other questions? i'm happy to answer anything at all. >> if you don't believe in war i'm wondering what your solutions, what would it be to the threat of terrorism? >> we get into very complicated talks when we're talking about isis or what i referred to earlier with respect to things. i think when we went into iraq, i'm going to remove the argument of what we should have gone in and finished. let's kick them out of the boat because we didn't. where we are today is a completely destabilized region. it's not just iraq. the region we have all the destabilization that is
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spread all the way to libya, that's crazy. north africa. it's because of the destabilization of iraq and the way that eventually that al qaeda turned into this wicked stepbrother , mastered stepchild called isis and it spread all over and you see what's happening in syria again which sure, he is a dictator, i get it but there was a stability there. and there's something to be said and you have peace and stability. the other question you've got to say is saddam hussein was telling his people. i'll give you 100 different examples of dictators around different continents that are either starting their people to death, robbing their country blind or killing different people. that's a different conversation where having here so as i said, i tend to lean very libertarian in that i just don't think there's a solution and you know what, vladimir putin and assad want
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to take back control of their country, let them. i don't know why we have to shed our kids blood. i'm only kidding. so if anybody's read the book and the two people here who are featured, marcus lime sure is happy to be introduced, marcus isthe guy i box with. this is more than that one of my closest friends . marcus who i write about extensively in the book, mark, i start with how marcus always helped me stay in shape but after i blew my life up and i disappeared off the face of the earth literally, this was the first place i went was his gym and it's good to see you here tonight.[applause] >> we're good friends but to get away from a little bit of politics that youmentioned in the book , you are doing more political consulting and radio, do you see your self writing another book or
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another politician informative? >> i have no idea. the print is just dry here. >> for anybody that doesn't really follow this at home or for people that are in politics, it gives them a little insight on what's going on behind the doors. >> i don't know why i write about it. including like shooting a 47's in cambodia which you will read about. i don't know. i will, i really enjoyed writing. i've never written a book before, i've written for tv news and when you write for tv news you're taught to write and this is a direct quote from news directors around the country, right like you are writing to a fifth-grader. any subject, you make it very simple people to understand so this is definitely a different process than writing about the hurricane that hit southwest florida or i don't know, a cat in a tree.
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don't worry, i've never covered a cat in a tree. but i don't know man, i would say that if anybody is considering running for really any elected position, even though this is for a federal position, it gives you insight as to how you really in the campaign, you're a startup business. you're a product. i don't want to sound raw about it but that's what you are. as a candidate, you are a product there to sell yourself and it is not the best feeling. but that's what you do, you come up with your brand, your id. you want me to introduce you?if you don't want to, you don't have to raise your hand. so somebody here help me extensively with creating life when we won't launch the campaign, your website, you get down to what you wear.
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when you saw all the republicans on stage and everyone was wearing black blazer, lecture, blue tie, no, tonight is the red tie, were going to be different. there are consultants paid to tell them that. it's insane the intricacies of campaigning. we were kind of a ragtag group that didn't really have consultants or anything but if you are interested in running for something i'm always happy to chat with you and the book will give you insight into what goes on and what it takes and how awful raising money is. [applause] >> any other questions? yes. >> what's your take on the current situation on partisanship in the
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government right now? >> what i was talking about in terms of partisanship is that it does exist in washington dc, it's just not cool to cover. it's not entertaining to turn on msnbc or block and here i was jokingly referring to, our water infrastructure bill today or the thing i worked on was criminal justice reform, removing mandatory minimums for federal judges to do their job, these were areas where in fact the far left and far right come together on a few things. we don't hear that. what we hear in the news is whenever possible. whoever! talk smack is going to get the camera and i'll tell you what, in the politics of politics, that's one of the harsh reality that exists is that if you want to go raise money, be the crazy person. that's one way to raise money because there really are a lot of people that are going to donate your campaign and it's not always the best thing. i was never that guy, don't get me wrong, i get a little crazy with humor in the book.
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>> we can get you in in a month on tuesday at midnight. oh, my god. all right. cool. so i stay mic'd up? all right. >> oh, my god. [inaudible conversations] >> booktv on twitter and facebook, and we want to hear from you. tweet us, twitter.com/booktv. or post a comment on our facebook page, facebook.com/booktv.

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