tv Senate Democratic Leaders Speak Out Against GOP Health Care Bill CSPAN September 19, 2017 7:29pm-7:54pm EDT
what our majority wants to do. the president of the united states is committed to repealing and replacing this bill, not propping it up. >> senator --
>> [inaudible] >> there you have it, ladies and gentlemen. [inaudible conversations]. >> okay. i'm proud to be joined by my colleagues -- hey, folks. take it somewhere else.
[laughter]. okay. i'm proud to be joined by my colleagues, senator durbin, senator wyden, senator stabenow to talk about what is going on in health care. first, we heard a lot of talk about the states and governors. just released was a letter, 10 governors, five democrat, five republican, opposed to trump care ii, the so-called graham-cassidy bill, more in favor of a bipartisan negotiation such as that that senator alexander and senator murray are going forward with. second, i just heard our republican colleagues speak. there was a word missing, people, patients, care, all this stuff democrat, republican, governors, washington, how about how this affects people? millions will lose coverage. no guarranty of preexisting
condition. and, an end to medicaid as we know it. tens of millions of people could well lose coverage. people who desperately need essential services would lose it our republican colleagues don't seem to care how this affects average american. why trump care, the previous trump care bills were so unpopular. that is why this bill is so unpopular. that's why despite all the efforts they're struggling their own senators know the public dislikes this bill. the latest version of trumpcare may live under a new name, graham-cassidy, no matter how many ways they try to dress it up, hide it, it is more dangerous and reckless. it is more dangerous than the previous bill. trumpcare is a sham.
crafting in the dark of night. say one hearing on one day, without a cbo score and only two witnesses, against the bill, that is a hearing? that is a full airing of the bill? come on. they're ashamed of this bill. they're afraid to find out what it actually does. and so. we get another bill in the dark of night. .
they don't want that. they don't want to tell middle class families in suburbs that mom or dad in the nursing home may no longer get coverage. they don't want to tell a 23-year-old young man who desperately needs opioid treatment that it may go away. this isn't simply making a decision at the state. they make the cuts here in washington that hurt average people and then tell the states to figure out who to cut. this is not a neutral bill that simply devolves power to the states. it's a bill to end medicaid as we know it and let the governors do the dirty work. that is why, that is why 10 governors from the states of colorado ohio alaska montana pennsylvania virginia louisiana nevada massachusetts and vermont , five democrats and five
republicans have said don't do trumpcare two. don't do graham cassidy. just on the substance according to the center for budget and policy priorities that will result in about $700 billion in cuts to health care by 2027. it would cause millions to lose coverage, millions. it would radically restructure and deeply cut medicaid. he would bring us back to the days when insurance companies could discriminate against people with pre-existing conditions. it would get rid of the consumer protections to give americans access to maternity care, substance abuse prescription drugs and it would grow the individual market into chaos resulting and 15 million people losing coverage. if they let the cbo do its work, if cbo weren't pressured to put
out something that's just a few lines this would all be told by cbo. how do we know? because similar bills in the past have been scored by cbo with similar provision. they are afraid. they are afraid that the public will hate this bill so they are trying to rush it through in the dark of night. we want above all a bill that protects average americans not flashes the health care they need whether the governor or washington should try to do that is wrong. we want to work in a bipartisan process to make things better. we want the house, the president republican leadership to stop pressuring those who want to come up with a bipartisan solution to refrain from doing it. we can make this work in a
bipartisan way in the final thing it would save this, we have seen the very hopeful sprouts of bipartisanship in the last month going back to this trumpcare to, graham cassidy shut down that bipartisanship that america yearns for. i'm going to call on senator
stabenow. >> thank you very much to all my colleagues in thanking everybody who has now reengaged through e-mail, to call, to be involved in this effort one more time to pass a form of trumpcare which is actually worse than the last one. as senator schumer said we don't have and we won't have a full cbo score for weeks but most of the provisions have been scored in different ways so we know really what is coming. we do know that it's disastrous for the people of michigan, for
people across the country and certainly disastrous when we talk about the loss of essential basic health care provisions for people. essentially, it would let states give insurance companies, because this is what we are really talking about making decisions, and insurance companies are bright green light to put profits before patients and went as health care stopping health care? is it health care that doesn't cover prescription drugs? is that health insurance if it doesn't cover maternity care? is that health insurance if it doesn't cover them urgency rooms is that health insurance if it doesn't cover people that have pre-existing conditions? and is that health insurance if it doesn't cover mental health or substance abuse treatment in the middle of an opioid epidemic? i want to remind republicans
that health care isn't political, it's personal. the way they were just talking about it, standing right here was very political and for all of us, for families and the people in this country it is very personal when the young cancer patient can afford the medications that keep them alive because their insurance won't cover it gets personal. when a mechanic who realizes his lifetime dream of owning his own shop has to pay more for insurance because he hurt his back a few years ago, that's very personal and when a woman has to pay more for her health insurance just because she is a woman, that is personal. and you know what? i take it personally. the people of michigan take it personally. all of my colleagues take it personally and that's why we will fight this in every way
possible on behalf of the people >> senator durbin. >> thanks, chuck. we were watching the other room and the republicans gave a press conference. it was interesting. one of the sponsors of this legislation got up and said this is really about the great national debate between socialism and states rights. really? it's not about the great national debate of socialism and states rights. it's about basic health care for families of america and if this is such a hot deal for governors all across america how to explain bye bye republican governors like the governor of alaska and the governor of nevada coming out publicly against this notion of states rights? why are they turning their back on an opportunity to receive this money and make the decision locally to be popular for votes as one of the senators said, because they can count. when a count they realize there is not enough money under this plan coming from washington to
sustain health care in their states and to keep up with the cost of health care in the future. they are realists. they understand that full well. it isn't a question between socialism and states rights. it's a question about whether or not we will provide basic care. i don't see a lot of people across america complaining about social security because it's a washington program. they realize it has liberated them and their senior years for good life and the same thing is true for medicare. the second issue i want to raise is one that was raised by the other sponsor this legislation, the jimmy kimmel test. remember when he referred to back? this gentleman who is well-known on late-night tv as the comedian had a tough time. he was bored -- his baby was born with a serious problem in the race to question his tv show. what's going to happen to families like mine under all this talk about new trumpcare? i can tell you under this trumpcare version it's not a good outcome.
first off if that family happens to be under medicaid there's a serious question as to whether it's about coverage. half the babies born in illinois are covered by medicaid. their moms are covered by medicaid in prenatal care. they want a healthy baby, and they want a healthy mom to and when he cut back on medicaid is this bill does you lessen that opportunity. once the baby is born once the family has a child with a pre-existing condition under this trumpcare bill it will harm them for the rest of their lives when they try to buy health insurance. that's one thing we stood up for on affordable care act and said we are not going to give in on this at all. we do want people discriminated against because they remember their family that was born with the birth defect were because someone has survived cancer care for someone who has diabetes and their family. they walk away from this in this bill. they say that's one of the options insurance companies can play with when they decide what your premiums will be.
time and again we look at this bill there's a real reason why they don't want the american people to take a hard look at it. the rates are going to go up for senior citizens. that's why aarp as opposed to it. the reimbursement for hospitals is going to go down. that's why the american hospital association all the state chapter suppose it and it's not going to provide a quality care health care professionals like nurse and doctors know all of us need. this is a route 1.. many thought the battle was over for this year lease at least. it's not. the battle is going to pick up steam and pickup importance of every family at this point. >> senator schumer i'm just going to make a couple of additional points. the first is right after graham cassidy heller passes health care markets are going to enter a freefall and the reason that is the case and i would urge you
to talk the state insurance commissioner about tron 2.0. you would have a combination of no cost-sharing plus a rollback in consumer protections so that you will have a particularly large number of people who are frail and vulnerable. make no mistake about what happens if graham cassidy passes there will be a freefall and insurance market in the second i want to mention and i do it because of the press conference several republicans talked in the press conference about how how -- they are proposal would be for. jeff: . we need to understand tron 2.0 uses. jeff: as a money-laundering program and the reality is you cannot have a strong. jeff: program if you decimate medicaid.
the two are that directly, for the idea that somehow this bill is going to be good for chip is just absurd. this is a bargain basement block grant. we are going to pull out all the stops. people power be trumpcare before. we will use people power to beat it again. >> senator's death in us talking about rain gauge meant.
>> people are really, a week ago no one saw, this hadn't even raised its ugly head but now the groups are really localized. you will find the hospitals, the aarp, the nurses, cancer care and all the societies that represent are all mobilized. they realize this is worse than the last one so i think over the weekend you will see huge mobilization.
go ahead. >> how tough would this be for senators from missouri and obviously senator mccaskill another's? are you confident that this bill would not get any democratic votes and secondly. >> there are people in every state. you can be deprived of insurance if you have a pre-existing condition in every state. there are dramatic cuts to medicaid in every state. it hurts every state and whether you are democrat or republican if you are representing your people you don't want this bill. >> senator graham laid out a campaign ad against a lot of your democratic colleague saying hey you put national interest ahead of people in the state. >> i don't even get what they say. we are talking about the people. their press conference was simply about washington federal
socialism states rights. they didn't talk about people. do you know why? this hurts people and they know it. let me tell you we are doing this because we care about people that if the 2018 election is a reference on trumpcare they are going to get clobbered and they know it. >> the president has indicated there'll be a bill soon. you think the united states should stay? >> i do. i thought the agreement was a bad agreement but i also said once it passed let's give it a little time to see if it's working or not. if iran violates the deal that's one thing and if they don't and do other bad things let's not violate the deal. let's go after them on the other bad things like terrorism etc.. >> unlike our republican leaders
we are not trying to hurry to get out of here. we are happy to talk about this issue. you notice --. >> are you concerned because this bill only raised its head a few days ago. because there's such a degree of uncertainty that is why people are so nervous. >> what we have done is we have looked at what the bill does and then we have looked at how cbo has scored previous bills with similar precision. we have very strong numbers and if the republicans viewed her numbers than they should wait for the cbo score. >> a follow-up on that talking about how it came up suddenly. you think that was a republican strategy to be quiet for a while and bring this up? >> with trumpcare one, two, three or four to have hearings that debate to have discussion because they know what they are
being pushed by some of their hard right and the factors who want to get out of all this safety net social security medicare and medicaid. the last trumpcare bill is not as severe as this one and 20 million americans supported it in a majority of trump voters were against it. so they know this is a very bad both substantively for the american people and politically for them. that's why they try to hide it and that's why they don't want to have discussion and debate hearings. that's why the republicans leaders were so anxious to get out of here. >> leader mcconnell was going to talk about the house could pass. do you think that is now stalled?
>> look i spoke to patty murray. the offer she gave lamar alexander was generous and he even said it was a good offer so i just, you know i have a lot of faith in senator alexander's believe in bipartisanship. i hope he you won't let those partisan pressures get them off course. we know how much senator alexander admires howard baker. [inaudible] >> with that and busy with a couple of other issues now that but we do intend to have discussions on those. >> with the time left in the fiscal year and the jewish holiday coming up in the time within a calendar year how concerned about you are worth the calendar with health care reform next. >> that was the majority and it was their choice. i wish they hadn't made it but i
think at least for december agreement on a variety of issues we will do very well. >> you suggested last week your daca deal would begin this week. i'm curious what you make of the president's quoting elton john today and reference to the leader of north korea and calling him rocket man's? >> if i were giving the president a vice i would have said avoid using rocket man. we know the leader of north korea is erratic to put it kindly. that kind of language i think is risky. on the first issue, we have been talking a little bit among our colleagues in the white house and i am still very optimistic we can get a good deal on daca, on border security and on the wall of any sort. last question.
>> sooner the better but this week there've been other things on the plate. >> do expect them to make some appeals and does it make it harder for democrats to negotiate? >> if they uproot the entire health care system and get rid of so much of the health care that people need, a
little fix to improve it isn't going to do much good. thank you everybody. [inaudible conversations] the president's speech to the united nations general assembly leading off prime-time this
the senate has adjourned for the day and will not need again for legislative work until next week. in today's session senator elizabeth warren talked about the equifax data breach and legal protections for financial privacy. here's a look. >> mr. president. >> the senator from massachusetts. >> mr. president i askgn recognition to speak. >> the senators recognized. >> mr. president affects one of the nation's credit reporting agencies has said that hackers has breached its system and stolen highly personal