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[inaudible conversations] b-17. [applause]
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5 feet apart. would you mind extending your cane? [laughter] are we set? let me express my appreciation for you turning out the deeply appreciated we always special debt to carl this is the 23rd panel the best panel was at
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1:00 a.m. in the parking lot of the supermarket across the street from the hotel. >> so let me say to the been -- to the panel before we run out of time i would like each of you to name a book that you think would be most in lightening or helpful and to consider a campaign for president. and then set to go.
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and then i would be happy if you carry this conversation by yourself i don't think i am in any position to add a great deal but as we are teetering towards the edge. so my first question and indeed there was the impeachment effort what would that look and feel like on the people of america if you feel that trump is doing a pretty good job but impeachment is a very serious thing and we have to be aware of the fact many
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people don't feel the last year has been a fair year. we have heard nothing but stories on television every day and i really fear for our country as we start the cycle of impeachment than the chaos that emerges from that so i also take this seriously. and with the lion share and i can barely stand on television they never invite experts to talk about russia.
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and then it is way more complicated. and it is perfectly normal to be engaged in international affairs. so if there was any dilution, so this is very serious. and for all of my colleagues in washington. with that old expression washington is hollywood with unattractive people. so this is a very tough place to be. we don't have a strategy and
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unassailable causes that would be untold damage to our country. >> up until four months ago into the mindset of the liberal base but joining as the token republican and the only republican that writes for them so to gain some insight with that grassroots and what they think and i will tell you there is a nervous pressure on the democratic politicians as they take over the house to pursue impeachment. the 2020 candidates are feeling the pressure.
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and that in the 2018 that is almost inevitably and with the impact to be more deeply fisher to impeach a president that is duly elected that has 40% approval. and to add this but they could only do that to wing the swing district.
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and this will require one of two things. with a lot of democrats this is not nancy pelosi's district this is in the midwest. and then to result the house of representatives to improve the impeachment resolution with every republican and some democrats. and it is also bad for the democrats with that clear and convincing evidence. and we see this play out inside the republican party.
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and then lied about it. but then to find themselves to have a candidate who said we will make this an issue with a campaign and with bill clinton's behavior would be more damaging to the party. and to do damage to us it could be done a lot more damage. >> standing back and looking at the various trend and with that parliamentary system with no opportunity to reestablish credibility so really the only
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run the races. and with the strategy of the entire country and to live with that choice for four years. we are still waiting for both parties. i would love to join the party again. with both of those elements. the 35% of the electorate are independent. so this is assignment 39% chooses not to be a member of either party. so that is a very fluid
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situation. >> i am a corporate spouse. and then as you suffer through with the politics of this state that the biggest four republicans right now is the national republican brand and we have a record number of governors and since arnold there has not been a republican in the state that could separate themselves out like in the state of california.
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so in california. but increasing lee you see that frustration the fracturing of the democrats with the price of housing or that is unappealing from the national party. and then to have the public president and to separate
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themselves out. but i do think it is possible. >> i keep reading that republicans will lose texas. and the demographics are such over the next few years texas will be a democratic state. >> i keep hearing that the less come up with a candidate for governor we are not good on math you can follow me on this they have a higher percentage of the population than the national average and has a higher percentage of the population than the national average. texas has a higher percentage of asian american then the national average so thereby i
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conclude that texas has a smaller percentage of white van the national average dre deep red state because republicans routinely get between 40 and 45% of the latino vote. our governor was the second governor elected 50% with a television ad that was emblematic of his campaign featuring his mother-in-law saying nice things about him. latino said his mother-in-law is one of us. he is married to one of us. anglo said his mother-in-law can say nice things left but when bush ran for reelection as governor 1999 only the second republican since 1872
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the majority of the tickets were not white men. women's and latinos made up the majority of the tickets. now as long as they keep that mindset but speaks to all texans we will be all right. and then to demolish the republican party but literally does anybody know the candidate for u.s. senate? the candidate for governor? they don't even have a full ticket statewide but these are the same people who say count on it. more latinos more in that
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democratic state. >> you have something? >> no no no. >> what is the major national issue? is it the impeachment or is there a compelling national issue is that in the primary concern? it is the issue of what it is or what it should be because after all the media shapes what the campaign will offer the voters but with the issue ought to be is how the country will stay solvent.
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i don't think there is any question unless something happens we will see a ballooning of the budget deficit and absolutely no effort that i can make out to think through a coherent strategy and this is important for all discussions we have had i have heard no discussion about the billions of dollars we are sending overseas and what we are getting as a result and those are the issues we ought to have that he in the weeds well in advance of the new tax reform bill. >> honestly i don't even think the major issues will be about tax reform that is long past many of the candidates will be
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running positive campaigns is between the public perception and what it actually does from the negative that will be better for them pocketbooks of ordinary americans but the major issues in the discussion leading up to november whatever donald trump wants them to be. he has control over what is happening in the news he doesn't have the self-control to deal with a specific message so for me to sit here in january to say in november we talk about the budget is silly because he will likely send out a tweet about a senators underwear. [laughter] so those feelings will be the
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major issues then depending on what happens there will either be a landmark deal or their bone to be and that is the big outstanding issue. >> i am a deficit hawk but we will not talk about that this fall because president trump took that off the table to say he wasn't change medicare social security with the average two-person working couple putting in $118,000 of taxes over the course of their lives with $320,000 worth of benefits but also debt with their kids name so we will not talk about that but we will talk about what he touched on
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think about lot last fall immigration was in the exit poll at 13% the economy of 52% also with those tax cuts 20% believe believe they will get a tax cut in 201830% think they won't 50% don't know so what happens with that 50% that that don't know? if there is any decline of those that don't think they will will have a big impact whether the republicans have the landscape but he is right will they stay focused will the president stay out of their way? he made a statement the president was looking forward to campaigning spending most of 2018 on the campaign trail i wrote a column to say don't do it. the best thing he could do is be president focusing on the people's business because in his in front of those crowds
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the self-control dissipates and when he says really weird things if you want to have republican majority even if they don't impeach him in the house i served two years in the white house with the democratic house of representatives is like going to the proctologist every day without the anesthesiologist presents. [laughter] >> do you have any parallel attitude when you read the newspapers or watch television? >> parallel to not having the anesthesiologist? [laughter] >> there was a lot of really good things but one of the best is now i can look with that amused gift to schism. >> where do you get your
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news? >> i read the washington post and new york times and lead with the wall street journal. >> i didn't realize you were a consumer of the fake news edl. [laughter] >> fiction after fiction also those that used to do the white house news summary have graciously kept me on the list i read the newsletter from politico and then i surf as only a norwegian with no balance. also whenever tim miller whatever he writes but he hides that. you need to do more promotion. >> i have 650,000 people on my twitter. [laughter] what do you read?
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>> in the morning i read the conservative policy newsletter i cannot watch cable anymore i do not watch one minute of it. then i get the transcripts from carl so i don't have to watch it but cable is terrible. really that is it there was nothing else on cable. >> dana perino? her new show is good. now i'm starting to go south little bit. [laughter] >> i'm telling. >> is fine we can go at it but.
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>> besides i punish myself with twitter most of the day. >> do we have a psychiatrist in the house? >> i am the only one here that we the new york times and washington post but an array of foreign press to see how our views are projected overseas and that gets to be a source a great deal of concern talking about the way what is going on in our country and from my perspective the biggest secret is we cannot govern ourselves very well anymore that is a national security issue. >> where do you get your foreign news? >> i have a set of links and i scanned through the british papers also the middle east i check out russia and elsewhere.
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>> where'd you get your russian news? >> the easiest the idea that to have a lock on everything but certainly the broadcast media but to read the overheated editorials how putin should be kicked out of office read moscow news i'm sorry moscow times which is in english they have a remarkably open debate what putin should should not be doing in his campaign and they give a lot of space to the opposition that largely he that development in this country are being interpreted overseas. >> later in the morning i get from defense democracies that has pretty good links to the
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international press and for economic news later i get it early but i save it until i have time a great website out of new york that has a lot of economics like here is something from the left here is something from the right to get a sense. >> i read the newspapers and i'm just stunned by the absolute absence of fairness and balance it is alarming a lot of facts are positioned to the prevailing sentiment. do you think journalism will ever go back to where it was?
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business of well-educated young people to go through the brief golden moment and to explain that of the moment that which the press was highly partisan. and then there is brief moment and that three major network and now we are back to the wild wild west? with 3000 newspapers in the federalist papers reprint when
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they reprint reprint from the others and to have a common database and that is very problematic for democracy that is why we trust in the institutions the media is that the all time low congresses near the all time low back near watergate the supreme court is still relatively high although the lowest ever the only two that retain the trust of the american people is military law enforcement and that is the only thing you trust.
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>> there are a lot of negatives in our environment how we are also selecting our news from people that confirm our beliefs but if this is a movement of the future to put aside the he said she said of the past but journalists are human so the idea there is a golden age in the 80s where dan rather would call it like he saw it is not true because journalist always have a more liberal point of view. but they are advancing this issue by trying to cover that
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up. but moving to a place where they acknowledge their bias so to your initial question of the current news environment i think that is true when you do% of journalists did not vote for president trump. >> so there is the inherent bias so to bring up the fact he really only has himself to blame for this with that moral high ground that if he was not constantly advancing to anything from the boldfaced lies constantly forcing the media to cover his behavior and i think if he was doing
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what his advisers wished he would do to focus on governing the country he may have more of a high ground but that is a mark on both of their houses as far as i am concerned. >> you are right but actually from washington it looks like there is complete and total feedback the news media media since he is terrible but they have never seen more paper sold or so many hits on their blogs and they are making money hand over fist with the advertising that goes with the political commentary all those numbers are up so they are making money on the president who loves that attention so it is circular. my big concern about this campaign is that this will
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continue and continue to alienate the public as we have a lot of things we need to sort out we won't have that conversation we won't be describing that in the midterms we are in the middle of this moneymaking drama. >> it is an interesting test selection is a reaction to the previous election so 1960, jfk the young energetic guy as opposed the eisenhower administration, a new frontier for new generation of leadershi leadership, 1976, watergate, 1980, the question is we really want somebody who can govern who can unify and
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restore a certain sense of what the presidency was about. call me an optimist but as i travel around i get the sense whether they like him or not they are worn out. but republicans or democrats i speak to more republicans but i do have democratic friends i do speak to that audience. >> and jewish lawyer. [laughter] so the other thing that the attitude of the democrats please get together and get something done and act like
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adults? >> i will take the pessimistic contrary view. >> hopefully he is right his resume will speak to that but i don't sense the democratic party is looking for somebody to bring comedy. >> comity. >> they will have to nominate it will either be donald trump but there isn't a lot of evidence people are looking for somebody overwhelming number of people that come to the panels at least right now want to 19. and i would suspect the democrats will put up a couple of boring senators that will relive the same history there will be a socialist like
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bernie or a celebrity. >> i could not agree more this is where the dominant -- democrats nominate biden more of firebreathing hopeful part of the resistance then that will give donald trump his second chance to face the one democrat that he can defeat because i agree the democratic party has the resistance is a virus causing them to be overheated and zombielike if they were smart they would pick better fights to and nephew and have an agenda like the brilliant column today suggested. >> you promised me you would read my column before you came. >> i think you are right on an earlier panel somebody made the point they want to become
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the opposition and this is an excellent point the other reason i have a problem with this whole thing growing up with the military so to keep with the great west point tradition for answers i don't know the answer i don't know or yes or or no sir. but going into the impeachment territory as we think about russia has been a gigantic political issue it is a mistake now more so than foreign policy did anybody apologize for not properly preparing their organization against cyberattacks? no. it is everybody else's fault. we are a global superpower.
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cybercapability is a capability united states of america uses and our allies use and it turns out the chinese and the russians use also. we have to take responsibility to protect ourselves in that environment. [applause] i haven't heard anybody say i'm sorry that my password was inadequate, we didn't have cyberclasses so if you want to know what worries about me with this discussion is it will not be good until we take responsibility for ourselves. [applause] >> as you scan the news from russia, what is presented to the russian people about the collusion discussions and conflicts? what does russia see from us?
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>> they are completely bewildered by what is going on you do hear them say we have turned into a domestic political issue i am sorry to say is true now i have a lot of issues with that country and that leadership but the truth is that russia has become weapon i used in the domestic political debate we should have a completely different discussion for the election and i am sure they tried to hack the services of the dnc that russians were effective to get through those barriers we are fully ourselves if we think what happened to anyway because the
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united states has one of the biggest cybercapabilities as we should have to have a much more adult conversation domestically with national security. we are not we will have a very exciting very short-term and tactical set of elections coming up as an independent and growing up in a household talking about the long haul it is depressing. >> i agree with a lot of what she has to say but there is a silver lining i never thought in my lifetime the progressive caucus or the black caucus of the hispanic caucus to be anti- russian to support sanctions on the oligarchs and thank god there is one positive thing that the united
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states congress is completely unified the senate vote was 96/two to install the sanctions on the russians as an anti-communist viewing putin as a roman's monarchist communist i am delighted. >> he is a of things but he isn't a communist. [laughter] >> i like to think that because he was kgb. >> that unified approach by the united states government of this issue is appropriate. >> the senate intelligence community i hope they simply will not have those russian attempts to influence but a concrete series of recommendations if they conducted their investigation in a way not highly partisan or polarized to give credibility to make those
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suggestions i suspect it comes out of the senate with numbers no way they will not adopt those same type of recommendations so my hope is to have a conversation with members of the committee who are vaguely implying yes we will do that. >> i do agree senator byrd is fantastic but i am discouraged what i suspect will be the president's response and i think if you look at the poll what republican voters think some still don't even think that russia did this so with this threat of cyberthat i help my party this time so
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that is very dangerous and there is a lot of other ways that russia and china can impact the political system. and that is incumbent on the president to say this is seriou serious. i think we are just in a redo. >> and to make my position very clear i do support the probe we need to get that information as soon as possible it is very serious and any suggestion of collusion and also very much in favor then to be realistic
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so having said that we should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time and not only do all of those things but understand that cyberactivity is the new frontier. this is very, very serious thing to take it casually or even act like victims only creates a barrier between ourselves to take responsibility for our own futures by getting educated making sure we take measures. >> i have heard that and one thing is we did have one set of excuses for the behavior of the russians and our response the previous administration sent out a spokesman to say we didn't want to make it a big public issue we were afraid to get involved in the campaign and president obama spoke harshly to vladimir putin in the summer.
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not good enough. and by the mirror putin likes to be harshly spoken to. that makes him feel good so we have a lot to do so we have an example credit the obama administration with this that when we needed to when they came after us we went back at them in the message was you mess with us it will allow price you will pay it will be higher than what you have exacted from us we should have done the same with the russians. [applause] >> book recommendations? >> you won't be surprised to hear me suggest strategy for the long haul. by patrick dougherty nickleby wrote a strategic approach for the joint chiefs of staff in this is an excellent way
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thinking how to shape the futur future. >> from my depressing contributions from today's panel that with regards to 2020 amusing myself to death. >> presidential decision-making is coming in 2019 focused on six big presidential decisions trying to decide if they are successful habits. >> are you allowed to identify the author of this important book? [applause] the first chapter is entitled the money of the world.
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