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white house. for a complete television schedule visit booktv.org. >> good evening and welcome to the enoch pratt free library. my name is vivian fisher. it's my pleasure to introduce our guest speaker. dr. janet dewart bell is a communication strategists and consultant with multimedia background as well as experience in policy advocacy, strategic planning, development, media training and education. she is a social justice advocate
activist, executive coach and motivation speaker. among her many accomplishments are emmy for outstanding individual achievement at wcbs affiliate in washington, d.c. and programming for national public radio. she was chairperson of the district of colombia mission for women and represented the district at the international conference of women in kenya. bell established lecture series on race in america society at the new york university school of law and now in 23rd year and i want to say that we are grateful for the service in terms of being a scholar and civil rights activists. along with other lead donors, she helped establish in 2012 the
dewart bell for pittsburgh school of law. professor bell's ana -- alma ma. she is also the found e and president of lead, intergenerational solutions, inc, nonprofit dedicated for leadership of social change agent. she serves on the board of teaching matters, cancer care, the southern center for women rights and women's media center and who -- ordain elder where al are welcome. please join me in welcoming dr. janet dewart bell to ball moor and the pratt library.
[applause] >> thank you so much. thank you for that very kind introduction. it's so wonderful to be here. i came to the library a couple of times with my late husband derrick bell and pleasure and honor to be invited here. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> during the civil rights movement african americans led the fight to free this country
from the slavery and jim crowe. african-american women placed significant roles at all levels to have civil rights movement. often they remain invisible to the larger public while some african-american women led causes and organizations such as dorothy height of delta sigma pheta, others did not have titles or official roles, they did not stand on ceremony, they simply did the work that needed to be done without expectation of personal gain, often unnamed and unappreciated. african-american women help construct architecture for change. women aidab. wells barnett were
antirape activist. they tried to protect black women which came from a tradition, it literally means the right of the lord and the antibelum and jim crowe south. that meant black women's bodies and lives did not matter. white men abused and raped women as well. rape, segregation, lynching, education, economic justice. people who live and worked in the south in the heat of the civil rights were clearly the heart and soul of the movement, their heroic actions often
putting themselves and their families in harm's way were without equal. as servant leaders, african-american women. >> leaders in desire to serve communities and power for themselves. they were not survival. i would like to tell you about my personal story. my mother was born in rural arkansas in the place that's so small you cannot even find it on the map. it was 100 miles away from little rock, arkansas, she could not go to high school because school for black children ended at eighth grade and the nearest high school was 100 miles away in little rock, her two oldest sisters were able to go to high school so my mother never had formal education but she was self-educated and i always say, she's the smartest person i ever
knew. one of the things that she did in civil rights movement was she bought me a car to do voter registration in the south, a car that was everything she had owned. now, this was a major sacrifice because my mother worked as maid in hotels and motels in erie, pennsylvania wh i was born, where she met my father, my father was born in rural georgia. she was born outside of griffin, georgia and i said, some people sort of kind of heard, griffin, no, he was outside of griffin, georgia in 1898 and he was taken at a school as all the black children were for agriculture needs cotton picking and what have you. my father technically went to the third grade but functionally
illiterate. so i say, of course, i would be become an educator and a communication specialist because it meant so much to my parents that i would do that. in the -- this is my mother, isn't she gorgeous, willy may neil, love that woman. this is my grandmother safrona mcknight. all 4'8-inches tall and she lived on a farm in rural arkansas and she 4'8, less than 100 pounds could drag a 100-pound bag of cotton through the field in 120-degree heat. i always say, that's the kind of legacy i have to live up to every day. my grandmother fierce and in the
country you would have your shotguns, right, and so every week the young insurancemen all white usually young would come by and collect the premiums and one day the young man came and apparently did not get the memo, you do not mess with safronia mcknight's daughters, she had 3 daughters, no sons, he came in and fondled one of her daughters, my aunt, my grandmother calmly walks over to the gun rack, picks up a shotgun and shoots it and missed the young man's ear intentionally because she was sharp shooter as was my mother and as i was i and he was not ridiculous and stupid and he left. my grandparents sent their
daughters away because they thought surely they would be lynched but they refused to succumb as my parents say do not take low to anybody, they would rather die than be slaves or to be anything less than first-class human beings, first-class citizens. fabulous. so i should say this, about week went by, no one came, nothing happened, another week went by, nothing happened, eventually another guy insurance man came and said, aunt safronia, as if nothing had ever happened, my grandmother lived to be in her 80's. this is my encounter with the klan, i was about -- this is about 1966, 67, so i was 20, 21
year's old and voter registration in southern virginia and i could have gotten my foolish self-killed but obviously i did not. i went there and i was staying with people in the community. you to remember the times of terrorism, the people who lived in these areas were there all of the time, some of us maybe from other parts of the south, maybe from places like eerie, pennsylvania or ohio, we were not living in constant danger, excuse me, like these people were and so if you read -- if you can read the sign more closely it says, a united klan rally, good-preaching country music, the white public only. i took the sign off a telephone pole and i kept it all these many years to remind me of the courage and bravery of those people who live there. i wanted to talk a little bit about some women who are not in my book before i get to the 9
womennia -- women i interviewed. anyone familiar with her? she started citizenship schools and she worked primarily in the sea islands, sea lie lands off georgia and south carolina, so to teach in these schools, she eventually lost her teaching license from the state and her pension because she would not give up her membership in the naacp and she got her pension many, many years later. her story was not unusual. ella baker, ella baker worked for almost all of the major civil rights organizations at the time as the inspiration, as they tell me for the student nonviolent coordinating committee, that was someone with passed knowledge down from generation to generation.
ella baker. a center named after her from california which she was remarkable woman and everybody i know her called ms. baker. nobody calls her ella. king fairfax, very little known, she worked for civil rights os at the time but she also worked for the american friend's service committee and the reason i wanted to point her out in prince edward county virginia which is in southern virginia, when the schools were supposedly desegregated, prince edward county refuse today desegregate the schools. they closed public schools for 5 years which meant that the black children had no schools to go to but they set up private academies with public funds for the white children. gene fairfax did outplacements, she came and sent children to places, can you imagine you're
15, 16, 17 about to graduate or go to high school or what have you and you have to go far away from your family to pursue your education? she sent these children to safe havens and around the country i meet people who are ms. fairfax 's kids and especially young people. they didn't close the school for 5 years, yes, they did, you can look that one. maida springer, she lived in pittsburgh primarily, but what she did was she got involved in the labor movement and she set the grounded work for the aflcio's involvement in the liberation movement in africa. this is very big deal. there are a couple of books written about her but as all the other women, you can do almost a whole library on them, that's
maida springer. molly moon, i put her in there. i met molly moon because she was the founder of urban league and i look at her, during the time we were trying to figure out what to call ourselves. we have been called names that are less pleasant than this, were we colored, black, negro, african american, what were we called and there was a lot of disagreement among people in the diaspra so molly moon became a bridge over that and molly moon said, oh, well, african american, that's very specific and that incorporates everybody. not everyone totally agreed with her but that's one thing that she did. the other thing -- she in the 40's, she and her husband henry lee moon who was the director of communications for the ncaap, national urban
league, you think that's not the south but it's still segregated. that's one of the things that she did. molly moon was a great mentor for me. fannie lou, sick and fired, we know that. fannie luo, sharecropper. my parents had 35 acres, they were sharecroppers, they never got 40 acres in a mule. fannie lou spoke passionately at 1964 democratic convention representing the mississippi freedom democratic party and she was so powerful that lbj and linda johnson called fake news conference so that he could take attention from -- from her while she was speaking.
who is that little woman speaking. he might have said something else. who is that woman speaking. very powerful i knew she was powerful even before that because i saw her speak with -- around the same time, she was addressing a rally in louns county, alabama. was speaking and he was using language she didn't quite approve of, she's a very fine christian lady. he kept talking. mrs. hamer came up here, she's way down there. she said, stop talking like that, shut your mouth, i don't remember the exact words and he said yes, ma'am and all i could think of, that's a powerful woman and so she was. winston and debbie hudson lived and worked in lee county, mississippi, winston was active
in naacp but had innormally what they did was they did voter registration, they did a lot of work, there's a book about them called mississippi harmony, you can read more about them but they represent another group of women who worked so hard in the civil rights movement and who are unacknowledged. the montgomery busboy cot in 1955-56, why did include that, because it's african-american women leaders and leadership roles. joanne robinson, was teacher, professor at college and she was also active in the women's political council and one of the things they did, how was the boycott successful. it was not successful just based on auditory, people were
strategists and visionaries and they thought ahead, they knew there could woman a time when someone would sit down to stand up. and so when mrs. parks did that, they were ready and ran off all of the things, but that, they had arranged alternate means of transportation so people could get to work and those people who couldn't get transportation walked, they walked for over a year and i tell people, we can't people to walk to the stores these days and these folks walked in the heat and the great threats of terror for over a year. joanne robinson, teenager at the time, she actually did the same thing mrs. parks did a few months before but because she was a teenager and considered unruly she was not considered
the right symbol for the movement they were trying to build, i don't blame them for trying to find someone who would represent the movement in the way they would move the movement forward. i tried to track her down to interview her and died a few years before. i could do that. but she -- years later after this, after mrs. parks became the symbol, she said that she thought mrs. parks was the right person. rosa parks was considered by everyone to be quite up right and dignified all of which you already know. she was the secretary of the local naacp branch, you may not know that, the other thing that people don't know is she was trained as a community organizer and as an activist. she went to high lander, tennessee as did many civil rights workers which is one of the few places where interracial gatherings could train together. they were against the law,
highlander was always under threat from the authorities but highlander proceeded anyway. georgia, gilmore, georgia gilmore was a cook, what she did, she and friends, she particularly started the club from nowhere, what they did was raise money to support the boycott. this was a threat to livelihood and life. they called it the club from nowhere. most people knew who they were. she and her, she and the people she worked with persisted and they raised money to support the movement. so i'm always saying that when you're movement oriented not just personally oriented, you find ways to move social justice forward. georgia gilmore did that. rosa parks, rosa parks you may not know. you see the sign on highlander,
i showed that. that's the rosa parks, the young rosa parks that people think of. i should mention as secretary of naacp, she didn't take dictation, she might have done that, i don't know that. what she always did was she investigated lynchings and rapes, mrs. rosa parks just before she died. daisy beats. head of naacp, integration of central high school, the students are called the little rock 9. but remember these are individual students, these are young people, these are people about the age of those marvelous students in parkland i lift them up all of the time.
green who was a senior and graduated, was the first to graduate from central high school, a young woman in there, elizabeth, on the day when they were supposed to go to the schools, experts, families were not notified so they could change the location where they're supposed to meet so 8 people met with daisy beats and the security, the local police, national guard, whoever to escort them in the school. elizabeth family did not have a phone, so she alone walked in the school and there are pictures of this child walking through hostile crowds, not hostile children, but hostile adults yelling at her, shouting profanities, doing horrible things, that was something that traumatized her for the rest of her life.
bradley mobley, son emmet was killed, either whistled or said bye, bye baby so some white woman at the store, later that night where he was visiting with uncle, grandfather, she was visiting from chicago, there was a knock on the door, the ku klux klan, they took him out, they mutt -- mutulated and found body and also bodies of other people who had been killed. this was a typical occurrence in the south. i talked about the race, the terrorism that we had because people keep trying to getter that, there were no muslims involved in this. these were white christians who were committing these crimes active violence. this is bradley mobley with her
son and that's her after her son was killed and i'm sparing you the open casket, although the open casket is very, very powerful. and i think that she made the right decision to display that because we would rather look the other way but sometimes you really must look into the face of evil, of what evil does, primary female attorney with naacp. legal defense fund and she, there she is, she always looked like that. the most dignified person. when she would argue cases, people would come from miles around, they would walk, they take carriages to see the motley woman argue, female attorney and she integrated, she litigated for the university of georgia
and the university of mississippi and i think you know the other two people in the picture martin luther king and loretta scott king. the women that i der -- interview is lea chase, ran restaurant and she still runs the restaurant in new orleans, some of you might have been there. she believed that cooking was her contribution, so in her restaurant new orleans, she provided a safe haven for civil rights workers to become integrated groups. remember, after my young people in particularly, that was against the law. their business could have been shot. harm could have come to them but as she says, you know, maybe it's because new orleans has a little bit, let the good times
roll that things didn't really happen to her. this is mrs. chase later on and i interviewed mrs. chase, she was about 90 year's old and she was absolutely phenomenal, i interviewed her at her restaurant and she -- i had a videographer, wouldn't you like to take a rest, she said no, she kept going out for hours, videographer and i were passing out on the side, she's still going, still cooking in her restaurant and she said a couple of things, one she said, who knew and new york times picked up this year, who knew you could change the world over a bowl of gumbo. it was taken a day after,
dr. jen jackson, psychiatrist, she was attending the american psychiatric association and in the meeting they are trying to figure out what the heck is going, june jackson and her husband never worked in the south but they opened occupy townhouse in new york city to civil rights workers, they raised money, they provided places for them to stay, they -- she even provided -- dr. christmas, we are down here, nobody has talked about post traumatic stress then. we need somebody to talk to. she provided, she was one of the first black women to graduate and lawed her now as she should have been lotted. this was christmas taken last year, i think she was about 93, 94, don't be jealous.
that's what she looks now and i always say, life of social justice activism, you wind up looking like that. [laughter] >> arlene hernández, she died about little over a year ago and she led student protests at howard university, people forget howard university was in the south, mason and they were also -- had issues public, accommodation, all this sort of thing, she did that when she was in college, she later became a laborer activist and leader and she also became the first and i think only african-american president of the national organization for women. she quit now when they -- after she had been the president when somehow they figured out it was okay to present an all-white for
officer, she said this could not be, she moved to california and maintained activism and she did labor organizing not just here but abroad. judy richardson right there, representing the young people, judy, among other things ran the -- do you remember? does anyone remember the wide area telephone sister line, the wats line? okay. she ran that line and that line was literally a lifeline for civil rights workers because what they did, people would go in the rural areas, even urban areas and they would need to call in at night. people would know that they were still alive. these are dangerous times. judy's job was to take through ports and sometimes through tears contact the fbi. she would have to contact the fbi and she talks about her frustration being in some places where there was terror going on and the fbi agents would not
intercede at all because they didn't want to blow their cover. she was very frustrated with that. this is judy last year, the year before receiving an award from the city of boston. later she started, she cofounded a black bookstore at that time the largest black-owned bookstore in the country, drummon spear in washington, d.c. and she became the associate producer for eyes on the price and she's partially responsible for that name because henry hampton we wanted to say, america i love you madly and she said, no, she fought for a title that became -- that evolved into the title that we know. she like many of the women, very humbled, she said so me, why do you want to interview me, i didn't do anything special and i said, i beg to differ with you and besides it's my book.
dianne nash, she was considered so trust worthy and specific, the word she always uses is diligence and the reason she became -- two guys who were head of the student movement and they would go out for various meetings and things and they would come back and report to a group like this and they would go, we did this, they were not very specific and everybody knew how specific dianne was and they encouraged her to become head of that. she -- one of the things that she talked about when you see various documentaries and things on the civil rights movement or the freedom right is the fact that she took over the freedom ride when the congress on racial quality bus was attacked and people were so severely beaten that they could not continue and diane nash said if we let
violence stop us now, we will never succeed. she passionately believed in nonviolence. she -- after the time of civil rights movement, she moved back to hometown of chicago, this relatively recent photo where she became a tenant organizer and she -- she's a wonderful person. she's really so specific. she only talked to me because i had to get someone else to be my third-party endorser. donaldson who works very hard, most people know him from the committee and he knew me, he knew of my work, i met her, but she was diane nash, but he knew me and he convinced her to talk to me for a while but it's so funny, i tell the story because i love it. she said i will give you 15 minutes and i said, okay. i will take whatever time i get.
so we are talking, i look at my stopwatch, oh, i'm so sorry, i don't want to impose, we are at 15 minutes and she said without hostility or anything, as a matter of fact it's 18 minutes and so we wrapped it up and i love her because that shows you how real people are, that's catherine, as i say to young people and those who may or may not have seen black panther, she was a real black panther. and she and her then husband first of all, they did the good work, the breakfast programs and educational programs, you have to remember, they were community programs that the black panthers did. people see -- people think of leather jackets and programs that they did. magnificent. she came back from, i think, four years in exile, they had
two children abroad, part of her background was that she grew up in alabama, her father was agriculture specialist and he was sent abroad when she was very young with the u.s. aid program and so she spent a lot of time in countries that had people of color as leaders and india, asia, white supremacy never had a chance with her. it was over before it even started. kathleen cleaver, graduated summa cum laude, federal district judge that would hire black panther, here is kathleen cleaver. it's interesting, several women said to me, is kathleen cleaver still as gorgeous and i said,
yes, she's as nicest can be. she gave me a full day. she allowed me to talk to her while she was entertaining her grandchildren from the sudan, you grandparents know that's precious time and so i said for all these women, i just wanted to do right by then. gay mcgoogle, first black student to integrate the all women's college outside of atlanta, georgia, she was the only one, the first one they accepted and the only one, can you imagine the isolation that she had, she -- after two years she did transfer, she went to bennington and later on became antiapartheid leader in washington, d.c. she helped organize all of those antiapartheid protests, she in her own right and with her late husband john payton and so she's
fabulous. when nelson mandela voted, this is a famous photo, when nelson mandela voted for the first time he wanted gay mcgoogle by her side, there she is, there she is today. she also went to law school and she's now a professor and she was one of the women who, she was the first, i think, to be on the committee for the end of raillial discrimination at the united nations, fantastic perso. gloria richardson, mrs. richardson was like, no, she was nonviolent as a tactic, she did not believe in it passionately, she believed in self-defense and she and her daughter, in fact, had to calm her down. she got involved in civil rights movement to support her daughter who was a teenager and daughter,
in fact, told her mother to get out of the line because she was tripping white people when they were walking by. mom, that's not what we were supposed to do. mrs. richardson tells the story, she laughs about it. this story was when the national guard was sent, riots, there were no riots by black people in cambridge, maryland and some national guards, you can see pointed gaun at her and she s.w.a.t.ed it away, she was offended that anyone would do something like that that to her. she was honor bid the city. she never thought that she would see that particular day and there she is looking at a higher authority. i'm georgia to end up with a
chapter of myrlie ever, this was taken after her husband's assassination and her three children. liting background about mrs. ever. born in mississippi in 933, myrlie was raised by aunt and grandmother, when she was 17 and student at a&m college in mississippi she met her future husband, they married when she was 18. when evers was appointed the first naacp field secretary in the state of mississippi in 1954, he negotiated a paid position for myrlie as officer secretary. they were basically the office, the home was fire bombed in
1962. in june 1963, edgar evers was assassinated in the driveway. widowed with three children, emotional intense, reminder of her husband's death n. the summer of 1964, she addressed the naacp convention at a time when civil rights workers lift up names, james cheney, andrew goodman, michael were missing and not yet discovered murdered and as with discovering the body of emmet they found other bodies. mrs. ever later moved to california. at the age of 31 she went back to college, working part time and graduated from pamona
college in 1968 with degree in sociology, remember she had three small kids at the time. she vigilantly pursued justice that ended when killer was in 1984, you notice i don't mention his name. the evers' home is a national landmark on a quiet unassuming residential street, its location brings into sharp focus the terror that was part of everyday lives of african-american leaders during civil rights movement. mrs. evers today remains beautiful, gracious, grateful and propelled by an indivisible force, mixture of compassion, curiosity and righteous anger,
she is defiantly a whole person for african americans preserving personhood is itself an accomplishment. in her own words, this is part of the chapter i adapted for the nation magazine online and magazine now. mrs. evers' words, i have fortunate to be surrounded by people who loved me dearly. my grandmother and aunt told me i could accomplish anything i set my mind to do as long as i stayed within the boundaries of what society had for me. you can do whatever you want to do but keep those boundaries out of the way, you never stop dreaming for something higher and better. emdgar was veteran as world war ii as was my father.
when he returned to mississippi he decided to confront the rapid prejudice and racism. i came along and learned as you move toward in the work, mississippi delta and later in jackson, mississippi. medgar and i moved first to a town formed by former slaves. medgar was the first-known african american to apply. found some other person, perhaps he was the second, but ms. evers thought she was the first. whatever the accomplishment, the willingness to do that is still the same. he applied to the law school. he went to visit with
dr. springer to talk about the naacp supporting him. instead they talked to him in taking the position as first field secretary for the naacp and opening an office in jackson, a very, very interesting time. it was not only typing, organizing events or celebrations or even the sad things to acknowledge people who had been hurt, who had been killed. i did research for his speeches. i even wrote some of them. we were behind the cotton curtain because you cannot get information out to the wire service that you could in any other part of the country. being concise what you supported in sending the information to naacp office in new york city and you did it and the young people here by telegram. i was welcoming committee to
people who came in. everyone visited our house, our house was so small, we always found a place. i think of thurgood marshal, attorney derrick bell, what a terrible time i had to budget $25 every two weeks feeding and housing people but it was our home. many of us bonded. there are a few of us still around. we have been there. it was an exciting but frightening time because you staired at death every day and you walked and death walked along with you, but there was always hope and there were always people who surrounded you to give you a sense of purpose. you try to prepare, you do a little role-playing, i
personally would put myself in a position mentally where i had just lost my husband. i knew it was coming. i recall a conversation with medgar not too long before assassination, i said to him, i can't live without you, i can't make it without you and he looked at me and said, you are much stronger than you think you are, you will be okay, you must believe it. today when i visit my former home, i can still see the blood. we need today get away from that place. our eldest son derril reached a point where he refused to eat, he would not study, he would not talk. my daughter would go to bed every night with her dad's picture holding it very tight. the little one with a rifle. i knew we no longer could live
in the house. a woman who was lonely and afraid but one who is determined to make it. everything that i thought medgar would have wanted and the promises i made to him the night before he was killed. my grand mother said to me, you run as far away from mississippi as you could get without going into the ocean. california became home and until this day, it still is. i summarize as best i can the character of the women in these book. to me they represent authenticity, courage, and purpose but obviously much, much more. i quote elaine jones, with my
passion on that. elaine jones, native in virginia, in 1970 became the first african-american women to graduate from the university of virginia school of law and later the first woman president and director council of the naacp legal defense and educational fund. she says that black women in civil rights movement. i wish i could capture the voice. the point is no one did what we do, black women believed in fundamental fairness, we know the difference between right and wrong. that is the way of finding our way and inspiring others. my book, lighting the fires of freedom is love letter to women in the movement and to the movement itself. i also want to acknowledge that there are a number of books by and about black women on the civil rights movement by
impressive group of writers and scholars including betty thomas, beverly, barbara clark, paulie and many more. the rich history of women involved in the civil rights movement indicates that there are many stories that remained to be told and to be told from different perspectives. reclaiming her story is portal to recognizing authenticity of african-american's women leadership. rashad johnson, director of color for change.org, writes about women. these stories of perseverance, love, lost, inspiration and strategy add to the song book of
the civil rights era allowing us to hear and model our newly-revived movement for justice on the sharp passionate and unforgettable voices of these women whose idea was so transformative. yes, rashad, stories of these remarkable women serve as instruction for the work that still must be done to make real the ideals of this nation. join with me. ♪ ♪
>> thank you. [applause] >> we have about 15 minutes for q&a. >> please speak up. [inaudible] >> maybe pictures, sound bites, stories of that sort. [inaudible] >> thank you. >> well, thank you, that's a great question. one to have things that i did, i wasn't able to video all of the women i interviewed but i interviewed some and so i'm going to try to put those in some sort of mini series, maybe
even online but because i think that their full -- the full interviews are really powerful. i had-i was privileged to interview most of the people all but one who gave me the 15 minutes but she is so organized. she's one of those people you put mic in front of and ask a couple of questions and she gives you all the information she needs so she was fabulous, but i think to hear the women speak in their own voices and what i say is that they allowed me to peep in their col colloquialism, let me try to change that, you are driven by semicolons and do something that's not important. please let me keep it and they were find enough to do that. but, yes, and i think -- but the other thing i want to encourage
other people to write about this. i think that my -- one of the things i feel i'm privileged to do is set a spark myself about it because i was able to do interviews, i was able to get them, get them published but i want other people to do it because there's a lot there. i spent -- this is also the subject of dissertation. i spent a lot of time on my dissertation, but it's not done this way. i'm done snatches of people's. here you have more and in particular chapter more in whole, more of a sense of the person, not just illustrating one of my academic points. so that's why i'm very excited about my -- i'm excited about my own book and i can be because it's not me, it's these women, but thank you, that's a great idea, i hope to be able to do
>> i believe that most african americans suffer from some part post traumatic stress syndrome and many are not aware of that and when i think about what's going on in this country but to put it exactly with quote, unquote, black on black crimes -- [inaudible] >> i believe that we need to come inside of different community across america and have people such as yourself, myself and other people as well who could come in and teach and put forth and to say, we know what you are going through and we care about you so that we can help mothers and fathers, so we
can teach people that if it's possible to learn -- [inaudible] >> and so thank you for being here. [inaudible] >> my late husband derrick bell, some of you may know of him, professor at harvard law school among other things, but before he was that, he -- he managed, i don't know how he did it, 300 school desegregation cases. he worked with speaker motley in mississippi and what derrick and i always said was that we found joy in the mississippi struggle and we always concentrated on
that too, not denying the stress, you know, the great dr. price cobbs talked about that for many years ago and people didn't pay attention to the psychic energy it takes to be part of an oppressed group and so but even with all that, you know, you have -- we do the work, join the struggle, engage but we find joy, we laugh and talk and dance. i was at a conference and everybody was so serious and i said, expected some great intellectual comment and they said what do you think,ic we need -- i think we need to dance more and they said, okay. that was an interesting comment. >> thank you very much.
[inaudible] >> pleasure hearing the stories. [inaudible] >> and so the singing, the negro or the african-american spirit, very important because those are the songs that help us to get through that period and still -- [inaudible] >> they are the meaning and appreciate you and all the ancestors -- [inaudible] >> thank you. i think just a couple more. >> i just want to make sure that everybody here knows that
>> you can go online and call in but to find out more of the civil right heroes [inaudible] >> i wanted to go back and say a couple of things about the women that i talked to in this is for the women across the board is the they continue to work for human rights. some people have said name to this the human rights movement rather than the civil rights but cannot get support. there's a great book written about people in the late 40s and 50s who wanted to join with the international human rights movement they
>> you are probably wondering how this all started. writing a funny book about the life of the vice president. charlotte will take it from there. >> thank you for coming. this is really cool and special and has been a dream of mine since i was very small to have a book out, especially a children's book, especially about an animal. and with my dad. it's really fun. i wanted to talk about marlon in general because a lot of people
ask how long we have had him and how old he is and when we got him so i wanted to introduce you to him a little bit since he is not here tonight. he is resting. he a lot of press interviews this week. [laughter] we thought we would let him rest up. i got marlon when i was studying in college in chicago and i was studying digital cinema in english and i wrote a short film. and so, i had a short film and needed a bunny in it. a lot of people told me to change it to a turtle or something that is easier to find. i don't know why a turtle would be easier to find back but i thought, no, it needs to be a bunny. it was fate that i would happen across marlon. i looked online and it pet stores and found them on craigslist. [laughter] yep, he's a craig list bunny.
no price was listed so i asked the owner how much for the bunny he said make me an offer. it became this godfather joke with my friend so they said we should name him marlon brando and i said no, we have to name him marlon brando to get that bunny plan in. that is how he came into our family. he lived with me in college in the dorm for only a week because that's not actually allowed but then he lived at home with my parents and lived in my apartment in college. now he's a part of our family and he's one of our pets. >> lo and behold, you know, we got thrust into this new role after the election and we were moving to dc and of course, we
had our pets with us on air force two and we weren't going to leave them behind and some staff people were helping us unload marlon in his cage and i don't know if some of you saw that picture because it seemed to go viral and all of a sudden the bunny was famous. we really do not understand why he was famous but that started the whole thing going. >> yeah, so, right after the inauguration, actually i think it was on inauguration day we had moved into an observatory where marlon was now and my mom and dad live there, too. [laughter] >> were just an afterthought now. [laughter] >> so we thought, i thought, we should get an instagram handle and get his name marlon bundo
because i think the twitter was taken like someone took it when he was all over the news that one day. we got the instagram handle for marlon and i remember the first post he put up was marlon in his little cage on our second floor of the naval observatory where we lived in doubt of his cage so i put up a post that said, marlon's first step in the naval observatory and my sister's boyfriend, dan, gets credit for saying he's the [inaudible] so he is botus and that is his official role and yeah, so, instagram is where it all started got popular on their. >> his first steps in the naval observatory that is one thing we wanted to talk about in the book
and so just to let you know we keep saying naval observatory but a lot of people don't know what we're talking about when we say that. in 1974 the first vice president to live in the naval observatory was mondale, rockefeller was the first one who could have lived there but he decided that he decorated it and entertain there but every vice presidents family since the mondale's have lived at the naval observatory. the naval observatory actually is a naval base, there really is a working observatory right across the street for us. the whole property is 72 acres but there is 17 acres that are dated off where the actual house is where we live and the naval observatory is kind of like a
victorian home, is what it looks like, it's on the cover of the book and has a big wraparound porch and very private right in the middle of washington dc because there are no tours of the naval observatory so the white house there are tours people come there all the time but the naval observatory is a little more private and the way the story got started it started years and years ago when charlotte first learned to talk because from the moment she learned how to talk she became a storyteller. she would line up her stuffed animals outside and she would tell them stories and regale them with all kinds of adventures. at night she would tell her little sister stories for her to fall asleep. they shared a room and almost
into high school years, audrey would say, tell me a story, charlotte, i can't fall asleep and charlotte would start a story in the next night she would continue that story. we were not surprised when she went to college and majored in digital cinema and english because we knew someday this book was going to happen. >> yeah, to get to the book really when people ask us how did you come up with it the idea we always say it all started with marlon. it really did. it started with the instagram page. we had no idea if anyone would follow this page about our bunny. >> how many she up to now? >> 27000 followers which is way more than me. [laughter] >> and i don't even have instagram. >> so, he's very popular but i mean, it make sense to us
because marlon is adorable and he's fun to take pictures of it has a real personality and he will follow us around the house and we let him get his exercise outside and we let him he will pose for pictures when were taking it but people ask us all the time how did you get him to do that and how did you get him to sit in front of the fire or open the book and he just does that. we don't do anything. he starts doing it. he has a personality but it started with the instagram page without should do a children's book on this like it would be fun and it was always a partnership, i feel like, it was always with my mom doing the
watercolors and she is very talented we decided to do it together. we wanted to do pick a theme for the book it made a lot of sense to me to make it educational so it wasn't just a story about marlon but also would teach about the role of the vice president whoever he or she is every vice president had very official duties and i did not really even know about a lot of them until my dad was vice president. that is where it all started is that we wanted to help kids and adults in teachers and educators have a way to teach about the vice presidency. >> you watch this and other programs online @booktv .org. >> here's a look at some books being published this week.