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investigation leading up to the election. that is live at 10:00 a.m. eastern. then a former contractor is a hearing on a partnership between facebook and a defunct firm. wednesday, commerce secretary briefs members of the senate finance committee on the trump administration's terror. live coverage at 9:00 a.m. eastern on c-span three. live coverage on c-span.org and streaming on the free radio app. this morning we were joined by two reporters to look at the week ahead. >> it is a busy week in washington.
we will take a look at the week ahead in congress with our two guests. one is rosie gray. thank you for being with us. >> let's start with lindsay. talk about the inspector general's report that came out last week. a big hearing today the house hearing tomorrow. will be there what are you looking for? >> the doj who wrote the report will be there to answer questions from lawmakers. the fbi will also be there answering questions. we are expecting democrats to continue to probe on the comey finding reports and to show that he was negligent in his decisions that were against normal department policy like when he decided to not consult
loretta lynch at the time when he announced that clinton should not be prosecuted for her e-mail server. he also did not consult anyone when he announced the additional e-mails before the election that they found from the anthony weiner probe. democrats feel that it proves that at the nt -- though try to show that what he did all along on the first side with the republicans you would expect to hear about the text messages related to the president and fbi officials who are involved in the investigation also involved in the russia investigation texting showing bias against president trump that they did not want him to be elected in one message saying it would stop him from being elected.
i think republicans will want to know if there's bias in the russia investigation. >> what was the white house posture on the ig report since it went out and what is it bracing for? >> trump and his allies use it as ammunition in their ongoing case against the fbi. even though what the report says is how the fbi behaves benefited hillary clinton in the end. it plays into a a narrative that the fbi has this bias in operatives who are not operating legally. president trump is showing that it exonerates him and it's not about the russian probe, it's about the investigation into the clinton e-mails. >> the phone numbers are the bottom of the screen for our guests. we will get to your calls.
once the two hearings are done, what is next in this case? >> that's a good question. the republicans have been asked for more documents related to the russia pro. they're expecting them soon. if they don't get them soon they've warned that they may have to do something. their members on the conservative side who have called for impeachment. so, i think they have a few weeks to deliver before congress starts hammering them a little more. as far as the clinton probe, i do not know if they want to go much beyond the hearings. depends on what is revealed. >> how will the white house use
the hearings to their advantage? >> it depends on how it goes. the hearings will be used as part of the ongoing push to show there is biased against president trump and the justice department and fbi. and likely what they were referring to indicating there should be some reshuffling at the department of justice. not something president trump has done yet but it has been suggested that he could potentially do. >> let's get immigration on the table before we go to the first call. the house was supposed to be taking up to immigration bills this week. the maybe it was off and on again. first layout the two bills the house will consider. what you they do? >> there similar in the border security act.
it has a more conservative measure by some standards because it goes further on the enforcement side. there's a compromise bill that moderates have gotten into the past few weeks and negotiated. they both provide money for the wall. one bill only authorizes the money where's the compromise bill provides an advanced appropriation of the money. the differences on the anthony bourdain sid and so much of thek comes from providing this for deportation. it never put ice past it. the compromise bill provides 67 daca. >> i want to take it back to the
white house early last friday morning. the president was followed by reporters as he was headed to talk to fox. he agreed with the policy of children being separated by their parents. >> i hate the children being taken away. the democrats have to change their law. that is their law. >> that is the democrats law. we can change it tonight. we can change it now. you need their vote. the democrats, all they have to do. >> by one vote, we don't need it you need 60 votes. we need one vote edge. we need 60. we need ten votes and we cannot get them from the democrats. >> you cannot do it through an executive order.
>> can we do one question at a time. >> the children can be taken care of quickly, beautifully and immediately. the democrats force that law upon our nation. i hate to see separation of parents and children. the democrats can come to us as they actually are, and they can change the whole border security. we need a wall and border security. we have to get rid of catch and release. you catch a criminal and take his name and release them and hands up going into our society. we have to change our were lost. the democrats have control because we don't have the votes. we need more republicans and that's why we will do well in the midterms. >> the atlantic the president has said he might not sign either of the bills. he saw people scrambling on
capitol hill. the president in the white house walked it back last night. where are they right now? >> there are mixed messages about the bills as far as the white house's position. he is going to the hill tomorrow to meet with house republicans. we will have more clarity than. as far as the message about family separation, this clip that you showed trying to blame it on the democrats, there has been a pattern of shifting the blame to other parties whether democrats or congress not being able to cope together. trump could ended if you wanted to. the implication is that it's a point of leverage.
>> let's go to tony was a democrat. go ahead. >> good morning c-span, just have a couple of quick wins. first of all this blaming the democrats for their policies that he's putting forth with immigration, we know that's a bunch of baloney. republicans are in charge of everything. number two, i do not know way anybody is pushing back against him line. nobody is pushing back on this. i find it troubling. republican, democrat independent, a lie is a lie. number two, if that's the case and they want to keep saying about this it all started with papadopoulos. how come they never said this is something very troubling to me.
if they're investigating hillary clinton i don't care, put her in jail. for them not to say trump was under investigation i find troubling. >> thank you for calling. that's talk more about immigration. >> where a speaker rhyme in the republican leadership now in terms of if these votes can pass? >> he is provided no guarantee that these have not had the votes to pass. they don't believe they have the votes to pass. they help it can pass but they're not sure. that's a mechanism in the house. they delayed that among confusion of the president's decision that said he would not sign the bill. they were look at it after he meets with the conference
tomorrow night. they will see if it has the vote. >> who is the point person at the white house? >> as far as the family separation stuff it has been cuban miller. >> susan, good morning. >> good morning. first, i want to mention that rosie gray commented earlier that comey statement reopening the e-mails investigation secondly, and concerned about the social security deficit and what would be the death best things to do to correct that. if you have a large income you only pay social security check on the small percentage.
you will get more benefits than a poor person. >> you are right, i did misspeak. >> i will say the ways and means committee had security of the house, republicans feel very strongly about retirement and they feel that without them working that there needs to be some push an entitlement changes before congress is going to take it on. >> good morning with illegal immigration the dog about everything going on why don't they -- verify system whether
they have a green card or whatever is just common sense. >> what is the status of e-verify? >> that issue was in the bill i would've made it mandatory for some employers to track their employees status. i think you will take it out of the bill in the house will take up a separate bill on the e-verify issue in the guestworker issue in july. >> can you remind us what the four pillars are that the president has talked about with immigration and how you see those playing out? >> he talked about building a wall and border security.
he talked about making sure people are entering through legal ports of entry. as far as immigration bill on the hill, he'll be looking for the things to be a part of them. there's murkiness over what he will be able to accomplish and how many votes he can move and whether he supported the compromise bill that will be a big story this week. >> we do have a graphic including 25 billion for a wall. the visa program and the lebanon chain migration. we also has stories last week that the president might be willing to shut the government
on the sheer if he doesn't get money for the wall, do you think that's realistic? >> i'm not sure if it's realistic. i don't think we can roll it out but, i don't think it's necessarily at the top of mind right now. >> let's go to nate. >> thank you for having me. one thing i'm ready for in wisconsin is the supreme court decision because we have rigged elections for state legislature with gerrymandering. that has been going on different places across the country. so if you're in michigan, north carolina or florida, politicians have read the elections using gerrymandering. say people get out vote for one party and the other party holds onto the seats when they shouldn't.
i have seen this up close. it's also statewide. this is an undermining of democracy. starts at the state level but can also filter to the house of representatives. >> what you make of that? >> we saw this in pennsylvania with a ruled against it it can have a big effect on the elections. with the supreme court decision could affect a lot we think it could get a vote of the senate late this afternoon the senate is bracing for a showdown.
they're talking about the t what was that story of liza causing pushback? >> it has raised questions about whether the president's position has played improperly into business deals. it's also becoming more dramatic because we are in the midst of a heightened trade conflict with china. the president opposing tariffs on his side. so the situation with china is becoming more heightened. >> how does this play out in the senate floor? >> i think the administration has asked the senate to remove it and the senate leaders have
shown no interest in doing that. they said they haven't made a strong case for. it looks like it will pass in the senate. you basically have to be resolved in a conference committee. >> when they finish what are they moving onto? was the rest of the week? >> there picking up their first bills called the minibus because it's not a full omnibus. it includes measures for military constructions in veterans affairs. and energy and water. >> any major issues with
stephen miller is the reason behind the immigration situation with the separation of families? guest: i point you towards the new york story -- the new york times story in which stephen miller defense policy and the times reports he has been behind the scenes, pushing this at the white house. host: you sound skeptical. the new york times, did you notice who their sources were? these days, i am a little skeptical about sources whether they are anonymous and his stephen miller the only one in in supportouse to is of this policy? it sounds like they are all against it but they have been it, am i enforce wrong? guest: there are certainly other
thegration hubs in president, including the president himself. as far as the policy, you are correct that not everyone in the trump administration necessarily supports this. there is a split in the republican party in general over this. but it is also true that the administration could decide to stop separating the families if they chose. it isn't the democrats forcing these separations to happen. host: preston, you are on the line. wondering where someone finds the requirements for the rules on entering our country? host: why do you ask? caller: well, i don't know what they're required to know or not. i don't appreciate the fact that my telephone on something it says to press one for english.
which it should be our countries language regardless. people that come in, whether or not they are legal, i know that some of the children have to have tutors in school. they get medical treatment. they get food stamps. they get a lot of privileges just because they're here. and another thing i've always wondered, like mexico, these are centuries-old countries. they have gold. they have things in their countries. why is it that we come a one of the youngest countries, has to support half of the world? these people have their own things to deal with just two there is, but somehow it comes down to the americans supporting the world because they expected, and we do it. host: all right. lindsay, want to take that one? available if you just google immigration laws.
i'm sure you can find it online. thell just say republicans, what they are looking to do this week is not change every law on the books. they are trying to beef up enforcement to make it harder to cross illegally, as well as once people are here, to make people -- to make sure they can catch people. host: what has been the role of the democrats so far with these immigration bills, and what might they be in the weeks ahead? republicans have been negotiating on their own. democrats aren't really involved in these negotiations. negotiations were born out of discharge petitions about moderate republicans forced to >> some other bills that are more supportive and they found that discharge position and found that those we get to the floor but since these negotiations were proved it
looks like the have the vote this week that will turn off the discharge position. that could have a role in the senate where they could say we oppose the bill and they would not take it up. >> how potent have they been? did they matter much to the debate right now? >> that issue is addressed to some degree. the republicans point to the case is one of the reasons the policies occurring is that the court case said that they have to be held in the least restrictive environment possible and because children can be put this where they can be detained that's why they've been put there. democrats believe the administration can change it. but they've hammered the issue
they're always talking about it and there's a lot of pressure for the administration to address it pgh so, jesus impacting the white house? >> it is calling attention to the families. they've started to be more media where these are being kept. it is becoming a hot button issue and an issue that clearly could have some impact in the midterms. >> i wanted to ask about the potency of the first lady. melania trump and laura bush were active over the weekend. here's a bit about what laura has written. sure people on all sides agree that the immigration system isn't working. zero-tolerance is not the answer. i know they're good people at
all levels of government who can to better to fix this. we can put melania trumps tweet on the air. her office put out this tweet. mrs. trump hates to see children separated for their families. she believes we need to be a country that follows all laws in a country that governs with heart. >> both of those are notable on different levels. i think the lower bar shop bettis there starting to be more push back in the republican world. in the melania trump tweet, she rarely comments on policy. it is notable in that regard. it is a critique of what they are doing. although her wording that both sides need to come together it's not necessarily a criticism of her husband but it indicates the
distance between her and this particular initiative. >> the president is tweeting and said why don't the democrats give us the vote to fix the worst immigration laws. where the cries about people including ms 13 covenant our country illegally. >> good morning. i want to know why the media keeps putting donald trump's blatant lies that it's the democrat laws causing the separation of the border. and i wanted to call an earlier on the deficit talk but i do not get in. donald trump has been in office for 512 days. 158 has been spent at his properties. 116 at his golf properties.
these are verifiable facts. i want to know why the american people have to pay for him to have security to go in trash the people he doesn't like, the democrats and whoever. i think they're just telling his lives with the democrat laws that's causing these problems. i think you for your time. the other thing i wanted to say. >> mike called back within about 30 days. i'm sure some other issues will come to your mind. >> can you pick apart this issue
can you give us a little bit of the modern history so we can understand this better? >> there is a human trafficking law they pointed to. i am not super familiar with it. the laws are pointing to laws in the '90s that are they are not to blame. other presidents did not take this approach. that cost more detention of the parents which cause or separation of the parents. i think that is a factor and it will be in the least restrictive place possible. i think they could put them in a
less restrictive place the republicans would make it so they could be detained together. that puts the children in jail with their parents. it is a catch-22. there are different laws to point to. we did not really see this ms force. >> the last color also took issue with how the president spent his time. we know he is headed to duluth, minnesota. >> he's heading for a campaign rally. >> is that be typical to what we've seen in the rallies? why is he going to minnesota? >> from time to time he has done these campaign rallies. he did one in nashville recently. essentially they are can to rallies he held during the election. he goes to areas where he has a lot of support of his fans come out in the exercise and
maintaining his bond with his space and pushing a lot of his signature issues. i think it is something -- the history of these things is that he enjoys doing these rallies. >> anything else you can talk about the present schedule this week? >> there is media involving the national space council today. he will go to the hill tomorrow afternoon. he has some stuff on thursday that i'm completely not remembering now. >> this go to a republican caller. good morning. >> good morning. how can you pass the military budget, they do not want $9 billion.
for central america you'd have to go down there and kick almost every major company out of there. columbia has legalized marijuana. people are moving back to mexico if you look at the stats. >> thank you. let's hear from edwin in chicago. good morning. >> good morning. i would like to ask two of your reporters, why isn't every news organization which can be in contact with each other at the snap of a finger, why aren't all of them picking a day and coming out and saying, the separation of young children from their parents will have an effect that will last for them all of their lives. how is it possible we have a
particular place in texas where they have 2-year-old children that are walking around with no one able to take and change their diaper or give them the comfort they need. if you are a parent you know that if a child gets excited or frustrated, they normally will use the bathroom. that means they are walking around with stained pampers which is not only detrimental to their health but to the people around them. we all know the president can stop this by saying stop. why are not all the news organizations coming together, pick a day and say, we will not stand for this. pressure from the outside can stop this president from taking advantage of people who are
coming from another country asking to come to place where they can have a better life. >> explain what's in the president's control and what's in congresses control on this issue. can the president change this on his own? >> this is part of the zero-tolerance policy that attorney general jeff sessions is at the helm of. my understanding is that they now treat -- there's a push to prosecute anyone who comes in illegally. once that happens they start prosecuting the parents and children are unaccompanied minors at that point and cap separately. lindsay talked a little bit about this, i think lindsay might be able to speak more knowledgeably about it. >> congress could pass a
stand-alone bill. diane feinstein has one that only has democratic cosponsors. some measures could be in the house this week. there's one in the republican immigration compromise bill. there are a number of legislative ways to fix this. certainly, nancy pelosi had said the administration could change it just like this. democrats believe registration is unnecessary. i'm sure they are not going to just sit idly by. the house republicans and senate republicans are starting to feel the pressure. i expect to see action on this in the next couple of weeks. >> here some tweets. the dhs secretary this must
stop. it's irresponsible and unproductive and as i've said before if you're seeking asylum for your family there's no reason to break the law and illegally cross between points of entry. she said you are not breaking the law by seeking asylum at a point of entry. we do not have a policy of separating families at the border. for those seeking asylum we continue the policy from previous administration and only separated if a child was in danger. there's no custodial relationship between family members or if the adult has broken the the law. any reaction? >> she's drying distinction between people who come to a port of entry and applied legally the people who are trying to enter illegally. it is true that there is not necessary a policy that says children must be separated from
their parents. it's a byproduct really. but there is pushback on that. it is the fact old policy. >> george from columbus new jersey. good morning. >> i'm calling to say basically billionaires have come out in favor of universal basic income. now, i think this is basically like a graduated capitalism where our country has -- in our capitalism so we are ready to record tire moved to the next level of capitalism. also, as far as the immigrants
go, we had embassies in countries, why don't we use our embassies. if they want to come to our country if we know countries they're coming from then we should make it so they can get a visa before they come to our country in the country they came from. if we know where most of them are coming from. they want a work visa, set it up in the country they came from. does that make sense? >> thank you. let's hear from our guest. >> on the universal basic income is not really my area. not sure if i completely understood your point about embassies. certainly, there are legal ways of trying to come to the united
states that one can be doing from their own country. >> there are ways to apply in their own country. i think some people do not want to wait. the process takes a long time especially if you do not meet some of the qualifications on employment visas and stuff. it's an individual decision. >> let's get some other issues on the table. the farm bill is something that might be looking at a revote. and what happened with the farm bill and what might happen this week. >> the farm bill came up and is universally opposed by democrats because of the changes it makes to the supplemental nutrition program. it adds requirements for able-bodied adults to qualify. they were basically cutting food
stamps. some moderates suppose the work requirement issue voted against it and the other half you had a little more than a dozen conservatives opposing it to make a point about immigration leadership was worried about that so conservatives were trying to bring the -- to the floor so they voted against it. >> where is the senate in this process? >> i believe they have marked it and will vote on it before the july 4 recess. ariel this week or late next week. the motion to reconsider was moved to friday. if they pass they vote on the bill it will be enough for the
conservatives to vote on the farm bill on friday. as long as the immigration stuff goes through. >> in the house has been working on many opioid -related bills and will continue to do so. what has the president said about their priority and tackling the problem? >> this is something they have spoken about quite a bit. for example kellyanne conway has spoken about it. they have adjusted as the crisis it is. i'm not sure to what extent it can be addressed legislatively. it is something the white house has made a priority. >> what is behind the strategy of many different bills as opposed to packaging them
together and people can look at as one big bill? >> is something that they are focusing on behind the scenes. it allows individual members to sponsor individual bills and their republicans who get to attach the names to these bills. that's good for political reasons. >> how much money is being put out by congress to deal with the issue? aside from running what is the significant policy matters? >> i'm not sure if there's any money in these bills? if there is any authorizing funds they would be appropriated later. maybe someone has authorized. i don't look too closely because i have colleagues covering the.
>> let's get a few more calls in. alan from missouri. hello. >> hi. i like to remind everybody that we are republicans at and democrats are all supposed to be citizens of the united states of america. i am against separating children from their families. i don't think it's right. i am a little bit worried about the president who keeps blaming past administrations for what he is responsible for now. the buck stops with him. >> a question for either of our guest? one covers light also uncovers the hell. >> no. >> let's go to daniel. you're in minnesota? >> ahead.
>> my dad was a war hero and i'm so can in the classified territorial lands, why would that not be protected through the federal government instead of handed down to a government entity which would take it away. as far as what i got going on because they're not going by any of it. they're just going by how they filter out from the dnr or that program. it's like the name take this is been posted back and forth but it gets me to where i cannot have help at all in the last three years of supporting it. and he was actually a veteran shot and window and last of can on his property. there's gravel rights for mining it. as far as doing what i had to do
as an entrepreneur, that's what our country needs is something as far as patriotism that's coming from the heart. that's -- also my grandpa was in minnesota and i had property there and cannot do anything because unlike a p on. without under standing that you fix it when it's broken. but if you can fix it before it's broken then -- >> what is your message to congress and the white house this week? >> to listen up and chain of command doesn't matter as long as you have the topics and issues handled. and how it was handled with like my parents that's what this
country is about. our heritage. >> thank you for weighing in this morning. it's on everybody here to listen up and do something. >> i think many people in the country feel that way. >> let's take one less call. hello. >> good morning. i'm calling about the immigration problem we have seen with the zero-tolerance policy. there is no way we should be separating minor children from their mother or father at the southern border. it is not helpful to their psychiatric development. it doesn't really protect us any greater is than if we kept them together. i also think the policy
regardless of what congress does and doesn't do and they seem to be better at not doing than doing, it will disappear shortly after the november election. think this policy is simply a president to try to pump up the base and vote in november. i think it will disappear from the horizon and probably will not be implemented at all. to then, it's done to the children, the parents and the cost of such a venture are going to be on the backs of the american people. we need to get a sensible immigration policy and follow it. >> thank you for calling. thank you to everybody who has called. we have time for one final thoughts. this go to rosie first.
what are we looking for at the white house? >> i want to make a larger point about how many of these callers have been talking about the family separation issue. i think that shows how much of a hot topic it is and how much it will have to be a priority for the hill to address. >> it's a big deal that they will vote on the immigration bill this week. even if they fail, the fact that they're taking action is a big step which they have not done in a long time. seeing how that plays out will be interesting. assuming that these bills fail they could move something individual on that i don't think congress is willing to let this play out all the way to the election. there are some vulnerable republicans who are worried.
>> we have the house leadership reporter for roll call and rosie gray, the white house correspondent for atlantic magazine. thank you for your time. >> "washington journal", live every day with new some policy issues that impact too. on tuesday morning, the supreme court correspondent reviews the supreme court action on key partisan gerrymandering cases. then chris discusses the department of justice inspector general report in the hillary clinton e-mail investigation. we'll talk about the health implications of children being separated from their families due to the zero immigration policy. watch "washington journal". join the discussion. >> this language of attack of
harm, damage that by expressing an opinion that people don't like, you have inflicted an injury. i found that very striking and frankly, rather frightening if the truth be told. and quite emblematic of the way the left is now responding to any sort of dissent, especially one that trenches on identity grievance in politics which is everywhere and has affected everything. >> amy wax talks about the limits of free expression on college campuses in the united states. >> earlier today, former secretary of state, madeleine albright spoke to attendees at
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