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mcpherson from rollcall is the house leadership reporter so let's start where you talk about the inspector general's report coming in last week. where are you today and how you are staring and what are you looking for? >> today owed -- the doj to answer questions and i think we are expecting the democrats the continuing of the probe that code me was very negligent and did not consult
anybody when had additional e-mails that they found from the anthony weiner probe so they said that sure they're asking questions along that line but on the flipside for republicans you should expect to hear a lot about the text messages related to the president with fbi officials also with the russia investigation they didn't want him to be elected and actually.
>> that's a good question. republicans are asking for more documents and if they don't get to them and he is legally obligated so they have a couple of weeks before they are hammered a little more on the issue but i am not sure they have much more they want to do beyond the hearings. >> i think how it goes but then that is the push there is
bias against president trump and tha that. >> what is the immigration before we go to our first call. . . . . the house is considerint do they do? guest: very similar in the border security aspect. there is a bill by the house judiciary committee. it goes further on the enforcement side. and then there is the compromise bill that moderates and conservatives have sat in a room
for the past two weeks and negotiated. they both provide for money for the wall. one of the big differences is that this bill only authorizes the money and the other one, the compromise bill, provides an advanced appropriation of the money. the big difference is on the dock aside, how they treat those populations. daca side, how they treat those populations. them at thedes ability to stay here with her deportation but it never provides a path to citizenship that the compromise bill provides six years of daca and the ability to apply for a merit-based visa which would lead to a path for citizenship. host: taking you back to the white house when the president was followed by a bunch of reporters as he was heading over it was askedx, it
if he agreed with the policy of children being separated from parents. here is a look. ? i hate children being taken away. the democrats have to change their law. quiet. quiet. that is the democrats law. we could change this tonight. do -- democrats have to >> you control that. need 60 votes. we need 10 votes and we can't get them from the democrats. you can't do that with executive order. one question at a time. can be taking care of quickly and beautifully and immediately but the democrats
force that law upon our nation. i hate it. i hate seeing separation of parents and children. the democrats could come to us as they actually are -- in all fairness, we are talking to them -- and they could change the border security. we need border security. of catch andt rid release. we have to change our laws. democrats have controlled because we don't have the votes. republicans need more republicans. which is why the we will do so well in the midterms. guest: -- rosie gray now from the atlantic -- the president saying he might not signed either of the house bills. that said people scrambling. the white house walks that back late last week. where is the white house now on the bills? there has been mixed
messages about the bills, as far as the white house decision on them. he does go to the hill tomorrow afternoon to meet with house republicans about this. and i think we will have a lot more clarity than. as far as the message with the family separation situation that is happening. the clip you just showed, that showed him blaming it on the democrats. but there has been a pattern of trump and white house official shifting the blame to other parties, democrats or congress not being able to come together and trump actually could end this if you wanted to. the implication is that it has become a point of leverage in these negotiations on the hill. let's go to tony. we are talking about the week ahead. go ahead. caller: good morning. i have a couple of quick points
here. first of all, blaming the democrats for their policies that he is putting forth with the immigration? we all know that is a bunch of baloney. so the republicans are in charge of everything now. number one. number two, i don't know why nobody is pushing back against him blatantly lying? nobody is pushing back on this. i find that troubling. republican, democrat, independent. a lie is a lie. investigation, when they want to keep saying -- it started with papadopoulos and how can they didn't ever say that this was something that was troubling to me? if they were investigating hillary clinton, i don't care if she did wrong. put her in jail. thator them not to say
trump was under investigation also, i find that troubling. host: lindsey mcpherson, the two bills you described earlier, where is paul ryan? guest: he has provided no guarantee that either measure will pass. this bill has been out there for months but they have not brought it to the floor is because they don't believe it does have the votes to pass. speakerromise bill, the says he hopes it will pass but they are not sure. they delay this amid the confusion over the president's position after he said he certainly would not sign that bill. so they will revisit that after he visits with the conference tomorrow night. after the company meeting they will see if it happens.
host: let's go to sears in milwaukee. good morning. good morning. rosie gray -- she commented nationalhat only reopening the emails investigation, she said it helps clinton and she misspoke, it hurts clinton. secondly, i am concerned about the social security deficit. and what would be the best thing to do to correct that? a large income, you only pay social security taxes on a tiny percentage. get more benefits back havea poor person who
taxes on all of their income? right you are absolutely that i did miss being, it did not benefit hillary clinton. guest: the ways and means committee has had an impact. republicans feel strongly about entitlements. they have been working on democrats working with that. there needs to be entitlement changes before congress take that up. jeff froms go to mississippi. caller: my comment is on the discussion about illegal immigration. everything that is going on -- in the't they put -- system? lawyers have to have verification?
[indiscernible] that was slow down the illegal crossing because -- that is common sense. host: what is the status of e-verify? guest: it was in the bill and it butd've made it mandatory my understanding is that they take it out of the bill before they vote this week and the house will take up a separate bill in july. host: rosie gray from the atlantic, can you remind us what the the pillars are president has talked about. the wall, border people areure that
entering through legal ports of entry -- i'm blanking right now. bills on immigration the hill, he will be looking for part --ings to be able to be a part of them. but there is a question over and he can accomplish supporting the compromise bill a topic this week. the wall with the mexican border. the diversity visa program, limits on family immigration. and we also had stories last bek that the president might willing to shut the government down later this year if he doesn't get money for the wall. is that realistic? guest: they talked about this before. i don't think we could rule out
think -- ig but i don't think it is necessarily at the top of mind at this moment. host: let's go to meet. caller: one thing i'm waiting theyour wisconsin is supreme court decision. because we had elections for the state legislature with gerrymandering. that is something that has been going on in different places across the country. so michigan or north carolina or , politicians have rigged the elections using gerrymandering so that people get out and vote for one party and the other party has seats when they shouldn't. i have seen this up close in milwaukee county itself. also statewide. so this is the undermining of democracy. it starts at the state level.
and it can also go up to the house of representatives. either way it is a blot on democracy across the country. this year and pennsylvania, we saw when the state supreme court ruled that it could have a big effect on the elections. a lot of people running back to the democrats, the court true the map so we have the supreme court decision that could affect a lot of other states. more action in washington this week in clues the defense authorization bill. picking up in the senate this afternoon. the hill has this headline that the senate is bracing for a trump showdown over a chinese zte.om giant,
what was the arrangement that the president made with the chinese and why does that cause so much chris pratt? -- cause so much push back? has raise questions over whether the president has played improperly with business deals. moreis also becoming germanic because we are in the midst of a heightened trade conflict with china. the president imposing tariffs and the chinese responding. the situation with china is becoming more heightened. explain how this plays out on the senate floor? it is in a manager's amendment. the ministration has asked the senate to remove it. leaders have shown no sign in doing that. saying that there is not a strong case were that. it looks like it will house --
it will pass in the senate. it would have to be resolved in a conference committee. host: then what does this move onto? the firsty take on package of appropriations bill. it is three packages that include a measure for military construction and affairs. the congress budget and energy and water. any major issues with those? in the house there is an issue with the funding. they're looking at the senate as the guide on this. the house has been able to this with primarily republican support. back tofore we get calls. we talked about the president's
insistence on funding the border wall. when it comes to a spending bill , what priorities does the president have? guest: of art from the border wall, i think the president sure onke to -- i'm not the details of each of the specific bills. a high border wall is priority. to make sure want there is a certain amount of money going to the defense and i'm not sure on the exact civics -- exact specifics. i wanted to ask rosie gray, what is her evidence that stephen miller is the reason behind the immigration situation with the separation of families? guest: i point you towards the
new york story -- the new york times story in which stephen miller defense policy and the times reports he has been behind the scenes, pushing this at the white house. host: you sound skeptical. the new york times, did you notice who their sources were? these days, i am a little skeptical about sources whether they are anonymous and his stephen miller the only one in in supportouse to is of this policy? it sounds like they are all against it but they have been it, am i enforce wrong? guest: there are certainly other thegration hubs in president, including the president himself. as far as the policy, you are correct that not everyone in the
trump administration necessarily supports this. there is a split in the republican party in general over this. but it is also true that the administration could decide to stop separating the families if they chose. it isn't the democrats forcing these separations to happen. host: preston, you are on the line. wondering where someone finds the requirements for the rules on entering our country? host: why do you ask? caller: well, i don't know what they're required to know or not. i don't appreciate the fact that my telephone on something it says to press one for english. which it should be our countries language regardless. people that come in, whether or
not they are legal, i know that some of the children have to have tutors in school. they get medical treatment. they get food stamps. they get a lot of privileges just because they're here. and another thing i've always wondered, like mexico, these are centuries-old countries. they have gold. they have things in their countries. why is it that we come a one of the youngest countries, has to support half of the world? these people have their own things to deal with just two there is, but somehow it comes down to the americans supporting the world because they expected, and we do it. host: all right. lindsay, want to take that one? available if you just google immigration laws. i'm sure you can find it online. thell just say republicans, what they are looking to do this week is
not change every law on the books. they are trying to beef up enforcement to make it harder to cross illegally, as well as once people are here, to make people -- to make sure they can catch people. host: what has been the role of the democrats so far with these immigration bills, and what might they be in the weeks ahead? republicans have been negotiating on their own. democrats aren't really involved in these negotiations. negotiations were born out of discharge petitions about moderate republicans forced to vote on other bills more supported by democrats. thatrats did side and discharge petition to make sure measures got to the floor. actually havethey the votes this week. they basically can say we oppose
the bill, and mitch mcconnell that have no incentive to take it up if it is not going to pass. host: how potent have the democrats been in recent days? do they matter much to this debate? certainly they've raised the profile on the separation of the border issue. that is addressed to some degree in the republican bill. the settlement in the court case republicans p oint to as one of the recent separation is occurring. because children can be put in a safer spot when their parents are attained, that is why they've been separated. that's what republicans are pointing to. democrats believe the administration can change it on their own. there are different viewpoints on that. certainly have raised the profile of it. it was all over the sunday shows. that is what they were all talking about this weekend. there's a lot of pressure for the admin efficient to address
this. how much is this impacting the white house? >> it is certainly calling issue -- calling attention to the issue of family separation. it is becoming a really hot button issue that clearly could have some impact in the midterms. -- democrats seemly certainly seem to think it could have an impact on the midterms. host: melania trump and laura bush were active over the weekend. op-ed inh wrote an ."he washington post "i know there are good people at all level of government who can do better to fix this." we can also that melania trump's tweet on the air as well. her office put out this tweet.
"mrs. trump hates to see children separated from their families. she believes we need to be a country that follows all laws, but also a country that governs with heart." >> both of those are notable on different levels. the laura bush op-ed is part of what i referred to earlier. there is starting to be more push back in the republican world against this. melania trump very rarely comments on policy, so it is notable in that regard. it is definitely a critique of what they are doing, although it is still her wording that both sides need to come together to fix it together. it is not a fairly a criticism of her husband, but it definitely indicates distance between her and this particular initiative. host: the president is up and tweeting.
"why don't the democrats give us the vote to fix the world's worst the -- world's worst immigration laws? where is the outcry for the killings and crime being caused by gangs and thugs, including ms 13, coming into our country illegally?" caller: i want to know why the media keeps putting donald ismp's blatant lies that it the democrat laws causing the separation at the border. earlier on call in the deficit talk. donald trump has been in office for 512 days. 158 of those days have been spent at his properties. 116 of them at his golf properties. these are definite, verifiable facts. i want to know why the american people have to pay for him to and trashity to go
the people that he doesn't like, and imocrats and whoever, just think the media is definitely messing up showing donald trump daily telling his lies, that it is democrat law that has caused this problem. i thank you for your time. but one more thing i want to say. host: callback after about 30 days. i'm sure some other issues will come into your mind. we do want to move on. let's go to lindsay mcpherson. can you pick apart this whole issue the color brought up, where the president is blaming the democrats for the laws that are in place now? can you give us a little bit of the modern history so we can understand this better?
>> there is a human trafficking law they point to. i am not super familiar with it. the fact that we haven't seen this until recently suggest that the laws are not to blame. other presidents certainly didn't use those laws to take this approach. the attorney general jeff sessions with the zero tolerance policy, that has caused more detention of the parents, that has caused more separation of the children. the detention where the parents are being held, sometimes the jails and stuff, is too restrictive to put the children in. they can put them in a less restrictive place. the republican bill would make it so that they can be detained together, but that puts the children in jail with their parents. it is a catch-22. but there are different laws you can point to.
the point is we didn't really see this in mass force until the attorney general's decision, so it is hard to point to anything but that is the main cause. host: that last caller also took issue with how the president spends his time. we know he is headed to duluth, minnesota for a rally. will that be typical as to what we've seen in these rallies? how does the crowd look? why is he going to minnesota? >> from time to time he's done these campaign rallies around the country. he did one in nashville recently. are again tohey the sort of rallies he held during the election. areas typically where he has a lot of support and a lot of his fans come out. it is a sort of exercise in maintaining his bond with his base and pushing a lot of his issues. i also think it is something he
-- you know, he clearly sort of enjoys doing these rallies. host: anything else you can add about the president's schedule this week? a meeting involving the national space council today. he is going to the hill tomorrow afternoon. he's got some stuff on thursday that i am completely not remembering now. host: let's hear from thomas in texas, republican caller. good morning. caller: good morning, america. how can you pass a military budget and they don't even want $9 billion because they are not even asking for $9 billion, but we are authorizing $9 billion? for central, you would have to go down there and kick almost
every american company out of their. columbia has legalized marijuana. i think they are going to make $5 billion this year. and people are moving back to mexico, if you look at the stats. thank you. host: let's hear from edwin in chicago. good morning. caller: good morning. i'd like to ask two of your reporters that are there. why isn't every news organization which can be in contact with each other at the snap of a finger, why aren't all of them taking the day and coming out and saying the separation of young children will have anrents effect that will last with them all of their lives? that we has aible particular place in texas where they have two-year-old children that are walking around with no
one able to take and change their pamper or give them the comfort they need? if you are a parent, you know that if a child gets excited or frustrated, the normally will use the bathroom. that means they are walking around with stained pampers, which is not only detrimental to their health, but also to the people around them. and we all know that the president can stop this by saying stop. so why aren't all the news organizations coming together, take a day, and to say we will not stand for this> pressure from the outside can stop this president from taking advantage of people who are coming from another country, asking to come to a place that they can have a better life. host: thank you for calling. to our guests come explain what
is in the president's control ontrol on thisc issue. >> this is part of the zero tolerance policy that attorney general jeff sessions is at the helm of. my understanding is that they now treat -- there is a push to prosecute anyone who comes into the country illegally. once that happens, they start prosecuting and the children are considered unaccompanied minors and are kept separately. lindsay talked about some of the reasons for this, which facilities they can be sent to. lindsay might able to speak more knowledgeably about what congress is able to do. >> congress could pass a stand-alone bill. dianne feinstein has one. i believe there are some measures that might be introduced in the house this weekend. there is that provision to roll
back the settlement on the lease restrictors on the payment detainment then silly these. certainly -- detainment facilities. certainly nancy pelosi believes the administration can change it just like this, and snapped her fingers. i democrats believe legislation is a necessary. house republicans and senate republicans i think are starting to feel the pressure, so i expect action in congress on this probably within the next couple of weeks before the july 4 recess. host: here are some tweets from secretary houston nielsen, the ,hs -- terry kiersten nielsen the dhs secretary. the miss by members, press and advocacy groups must stop.
it is irresponsible and unproductive. if you are seeking asylum for your family, there is no reason to break the law and enter illegally. you're not breaking the law by seeking asylum at the port of entry. we do not have a policy of separating families at the border, period. seeking asylum, we have continued the policy from previous administrations and will only separated child is in danger, there is no custodial relationship between family members, or if the adult is not present." don't --true that they there isn't necessarily a policy that says children must be separated from the parents. the separations are a result of this zero-tolerance, sort of a byproduct. but it is sort of, there's a lot
of prospective or tweets on that because it is a sort of de facto policy. host: george in columbus, new jersey. independent. good morning. caller: good morning. basically a to say lot of billionaires have come out in favor of universal basic income. basically a this is graduated capitalism where our is ready to retire or moved to the next level of capitalism. also, as far as the immigrants , we have embassies in their countries, so why don't we use
our embassies? if they want to come to our country, we could use -- if we ,now where they are coming from we should make it so that they can get a visa before they can come to our country in the country where they came from. know where they are coming from. host: thanks for calling. anything you want to add? >> on universal basic income, that is not really my area. i am not really if i completely understood your point about embassies, but certainly there are legal ways of trying to come that oneited states can begin doing from one's home country. >> there are ways to apply from your home country.
i think that some people just don't want to wait. the process takes a long time, especially if you don't meet some of the qualifications for employment visas and stuff. that is an individual decision, i guess. host: let's get some other issues on the table for our viewers. the farm bill is something we will be looking at as a revote later this week. remind us what happened with the farm bill, when it came up, and what might happen this week. is proposed byl democrats -- is opposed by democrats because of the changes it makes to nutrition and work requirements for able-bodied adults to qualify. without their support, republicans had to get it on their inside. some moderates oppose the work requirement issue as well as have voted against it. on the other half you have little more than a dozen
-- conservatives pu are opposing it is to make a point about immigration. tieervatives are trying to the goodlatte bill to the floor over the farm bill and didn't get quite the commitment they were hoping for, so they voted against the farm bill. host: where is the senate in this process? >> i believe the senate has marked it up and is going to be voting on it before the july 4 recess. if they vote on the goodlatte enoughhat is going to be for the republicans to vote on the farm bill on friday. host: the house has been working
on many opioid related bills in the. last week -- in the last week. what has the white house said about their priorities in tackling the problems of opioids in this country? >> this is something they have spoken about quite a bit command something kellyanne conway spoke about quite a bit. i think they've addressed it as the major crisis that is. cannot sure to what extent be addressed legislatively versus other means. it is something the white house has at certain points made a priority. host: was behind the strategy of many, many different bills as opposed to packaging them together at something people can look at, one may be big bil that deals with the issue?
>> allows individual members to sponsor each of these individual bills. that looks good for political reasons. is put outuch money by congress in these bills to deal with the issue? what are the significant policy matters happening? i'mnot sure offhand -- >> not sure offhand if there is any money but in these bills. they would still have to be appropriated. i haven't looked too closely at the details. callslet's get a few more in and wrap things up for this hour. alan from misery. death from missouri -- from missouri. you are on the line.
to remindwould like everybody that republicans and democrats are supposed to be citizens of the united states of america. i am against separating children from their families. i don't think that's right. i am a little bit worried about keepsident that blaming past administrations for what he is responsible for now. host: any questions for either of our guests? one covers the white house. one covers the hill. caller: no. host: let's go to daniel in minnesota. caller: yes. my dad was a green beret and war too, and i am next
instead of land, handed down to a government entity was would devastatingly take it away, as far as what all got going on by actuality, they are just going by how they filter at all. like, the name tag beyond the doors, that is where i'm lost. it gets me to where i am not any help at all in the last three years supporting it. the guy was last of kin at his property. as far as doing what i have to , that is what the country needs as far as something as far as patriotic and coming right
from the heart. that is coming from the heart because my dad would be here farm, and i'm from country. and i can't do anything. understanding that come eyes you can actually relate to the problem before, then that is what i'm all about. host: so what is your message to congress and the white house this week? caller: listen up, and chain of command doesn't really matter as long as you got the topics and issues handled. stuff when i with can't go into my ancestors heritage or geniality. we get the point. he is telling everybody to listen up and do something. >> i think a lot of people in
this country feel this way about a lot of different issues. host: let's take one last call from new jersey. democratic caller. caller: good morning. i'm calling about the immigration problem that we seem to have now made worse with this zero-tolerance policy. is that there's no way we should be separating minor children from their mother, their father at the southern border -- separating migrant children from their mother, their father at the southern border. it is not helping their psychological development and it doesn't really protect us as we protect them together. i also think that this policy, regardless of what congress does -- and they seem to be better at not doing been doing -- will disappear shortly after the november election.
i think this policy is simply get theident trying to vote from his base in november. it will have either done that or failed to have done that the day after elections, and it will disappear from the horizon and probably will be implemented at all. but the damage done to the children, the parents, and the cost of such a venture are going to be laid on the backs of the american people. get ak we need to just sensible immigration policy and follow it. host: all right. thank you to everybody who called for this hour. we have time for one final thought from each of our guests. but go to what you will be looking for out of the white house this week. >> i would just make a larger not many ofhow
these colors have been talking about the family separation issue. i think that shows how much of a hot topic it is and how much it is going to have to be a priority in both. the administration and the hill to address >> in the house it is a big deal that they are going to vote on an immigration bill, an issue that has long divided republicans in the house. the fact that they are taking action is a big step they have not done a long time. outeeing how that all plays will be interesting, and it does relate to the family separation issue. if these bills fail, they might look to move something individual. i don't think the last caller pointed out that congress is willing to play this out all the way till the election because there are some horrible republicans. are guests have been lyndsay mcpherson for "roll call and rosie 15 years after the
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