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on his sniper gun. or the particular duffel bag uses for investigations with the cut is uniform and what has to wear certain days, whether he has a cover on or cover off. i had to build that into his mentality, this is how he led his life. it didn't interfere with the story. it's hard to do that. i never want to write the book where writers do a lot of research and you want to leave it all in. he doesn't want to integrate and the stress we find a a spot and slaps a minute or so the reader, you with the stuff and flip, flip, flip, you get back to the story. i never want to write a flip book. .. host: joining us from fort lauderdale florida is republican strategist and author of the new book stone's rules how to win at politics, business, and style. thanks for being with us. guest: good morning. great to be here. host: let me begin with news of
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the last 24 hours. your friend and former partner paul man t>> on allegations he tried to witness 10 in addition to his case. your reaction to what happened on friday and where does this go next? >> guest: i think the special counsel is trying to pressure paul to plead guilty to avoid a trial. the reason they are doing that is they do not want to discuss the fisa surveillance that was on both paul manafort and according to the new york times in january 20, 2016 on myself and also carter page. in fact, in discovery, the government insisted to manafort that he was never
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under surveillance at any time. the washington post, new york times and in any other news organizations have reported otherwise. i think that surveillance was unconstitutional, was illegal. i don't think the government wants to talk about it trial and that is the reason mister manafort is being squeezed in this way. >> host: but he is also being accused of tampering with witnesses in the investigation. >> guest: i can't the specifics other than what i have read but i find it interesting that one of the brothers who hacked the white house computer system whose accused of burglary, stealing records, stealing money has not spent a day in jail while mister manafort is in jail this is clearly a pressure tactic to induce him to plead guilty to avoid trial . >>. >> host: the washington post had the headline at this hour that you revealed another
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conversation, another meeting in 2016 with another russian operative and the post has this text exchange between you and mike caputo. waste of time, anything at all interesting? can you explain what this is all about? >> guest: absolutely. mister caputo, a longtime associate asked me to meet with a gentleman by the name of henry greenberg. turns out that's not his real name because he had information he said he wanted to pass on to the trump campaign. i met with mister greenberg who has been revealed to be a long time fbi informant and he told me he wanted to million dollars for unspecified information. needless to say i declined, said i didn't have to million dollars and if i did, i would use it to buy political
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information. he said it's not your money i want, it's donald trump's. i said you really don't understand. donald trump doesn't pay for political information. i've reported d in this meeting that mister caputo has refreshed my memory to the house intelligence committee, it was a 20 minute exchange. even mister greenberg and the washington post confirms there was no transaction and that i declined it. knowing mister greenberg's extensive background as an fbi informant, it is clear to me that this was a sting operation of some kind, and attempt to penetrate the trump effort and perhaps compromise donald trump himself. it turned out to be so innocuous that i didn't recall it but i have given my entire recollection now to the house intelligence committee . and i'll go to the inspector general. >> the characterization is that you did not disclose it to federal investigators .
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to just explain you didn't know about it or forgot about it, is that your excuse? >> that is correct, i did not recall it at the time . i did not recall an excuse until the general counsel raised this question with mister caputo. i have no memory of this, it was an innocuous exchange. this guy shows up wearing a maga hat, i declined, nothing inappropriate happened and i have now refreshed my memory and informed the >> why do you think fbi operatives would have done this? >> we have this jeff helper example, we have be strzok page example. some subset was working against the trump election, was trying to penetrate the trump campaign. i think this was a sting effort. the time i bought it was a clumsy effort to get money
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and i declined but in all honesty, this was a 20 minute exchange which i do not recall because it was so ridiculous. >> host: would the president consider a pardon for paul manafort? >> guest: i think that's premature. i fthink mister manafort need to go to trial. the president could make that decision at that point . in the case for example of general flynn who has pled that the president should consider a pardon for general flynn. >> host: you are friends with paul manafort. he was your former partner, when was the last time you talk to him? >> guest: it's been a couple weeks now. obviously i feel badly for him. it's going to be difficult for him toprepare or trial in a jail dicell . the hardball tactics of the special prosecutor are
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obvious but we have not spoken in several weeks. >> host: what did he sound like when you talked to him? what is his mind like at the moment? >> guest: anxious to go to trial. unwilling to fold and plead guilty, not willing to testify against the president in any way. i don't think he has any information that's damaging to thepresident, therefore in order to do so he would have to make something up . bear false witness, as it were. that would be perjury in itself so i think he is at the last time i spoke to him anxious to go to trial on these charges. >> right now, he's looking at charges based on his personal financial dealings, his lobbying efforts and business practices, nothing involved in the campaign. >> i thought this was about
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russian collusion in the 2016 election. paul manafort stands charged of numerous infractions but none of them having to do with the presidential election or his service in the trump campaign. frankly, i do not think he gets enough credit for his effort to report an effort to steal the nomination donald trump, even though donald trump has run the primaries and the state conventions. as you know, there's a precedent, 1962, robert taft into chicago with more than enough votes to be nominated and that nomination was stolen from him in the credentials committee and the rules committee of the 1952 convention. the republican national convention is governed by its own rules rather than state or federal law and the trump campaign despite the fact that they were rolling up large victories when it came to delegates was not paying attention to who was being appointed to these crucial and controlling committees.
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manafort is a master at convention politics. he was exactly the person the trump campaign needed at that time.he beat back an effort by the cruz. i took the nomination and i think he deserves credit. >> host: rudy guiliani saying he couldclear up the probe with a series of pardons, your reaction . >> guest: far the rush of probe doesn't seem to have revealed any russian collusion. why i call it the russian collusion delusion. given the partisan nature of all the investigators, given the fact that we, that the special counsel indicted 13 russians and now doesn't want to provide discovery to them, looking for a headline, this is a bogus partisan investigation. the president is right. it's a witchhunt and it has interestingly not slowed the president down in terms of turning the country to prosperity and seeking peace
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abroad. it's amazing how much the president has been able to achieve given the daily attacks y by the mainstream media from the democrats and his critics and i think mister guiliani is absolutely right. >> host: let me go back to this washington post story. roger stone revealing new content with the russian nationals during the campaign. were there any other meetings that took place that you now remember that took place in 2016? >> none that i can recall. i even recall this one, it was so innocuous and again i want to be clear, i declined any effort to purchase information or to pass this information on todonald trump . >>.
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>> host: let's get your book called "stone's rules: how to win at politics, business and style". you write the following. the media is mindless yet endless insistence that the russian state health donald trump when along with the bogus claim that julian hodges a russian agent and i supposedly emails from wikileaks and pass them to donald trump is truly the biggest lie of the century. >> guest: i think it's absolutely true. you can read it constantly. let me be clear, i had no advanced knowledge of the source , content or the exact timing of the wikileaks disclosures regarding the dnc. i received nothing including allegedly emails from wikileaks or julian assange or the russians or anyone else. iiapassed nothing of that nature onto donald trump as some have claimed . so this false allegation
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keeps getting repeated. there is no evidence to back it up because it is not true. it is also accurate that i do not regard mister julian assange or wikileaks as russian assets. i think assange is a journalist. he does what the washington post does, what the new york times does. he gets information, sometimes classified and he publishes it. it is interesting to note that wikileaks has never been questioned in terms of the authenticity or accuracy of what they have published. very few american newspapers or media organizations can say that. i reject the idea that he is a russian asset or that wikileaks is a russian front. at this juncture although i once believed that the dnc and then, today i don't think they were hacked at all. as you may know i'm being
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sued along with others in the trump campaign by the democratic national committee which is terrific because we will get a chance to examine those servers and establish once and for all whether the dnc was ever hacked by anyone or whether the information was downloaded to some kind of portable drive and taken out a backdoor which a number of it experts s now believe based on an article i read. >> you've written how many books, roger stone? >> this will be my sixth book. i'm a new york times best-selling author of this book is somewhat different than the others. you don't have to be a republican or a conservative or a trump supporter to benefit and enjoy this book . this would work for a bernie sanders supporter, a progressive, even people who aren't interested in politics
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whatsoever. if you're trying to get a hand in business or media or fashion or agriculture, no matter what your chosen application, i think these rules could hold you in good stead. >> host: let's go to donna joining us from st. louis, independent line with roger stone, good morning. >> caller: i have two things. first of all, fox news is the fake news. they're not exactly edward r murrow or walter cronkite. he doesn't want to answer questions from the people who try to question him on something. and guiliani are using it to try to bring down a real american hero, mueller. he gets wide bipartisan support for the job and now he's getting closer and closer to trump and they are getting more and more hostile. secondly, trumps bankruptcies, the russian bailouts, the facebook accounts, our 2016 elections
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and money laundering, it's all connected and all mueller is the best person in the country to connect those dots and they're all going to catch up with trumpeventually because no oneincluding you, stone , are above the law in this country. it's a matter of time until the truth comesout. thank you . >> host: roger stone . >> guest: i guess i'll put you down as undecided. real hostility this morning. no russian collusion has yet been proven. you seem to want to relitigate the last election which donald trump one. i find the news coverage at fox more balanced than say cnn. >> host: how would you look at a picture from newsweek magazine in your office with a number of richard nixon posters from his campaign in 1968 and 1972.
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how would richard nixon have handled watergate in today's media environment? >> guest: remember that in 1973 and four, we had a monolithic media. three major networks, several national newspapers but there was no internet. there was no alternative media. therefore, there was only one narrative, it was the washington post narrative. we didn't know the time that three of the burglars were still on the cia payroll reporting their case officer. we know that john dean directed tony last caulfield, to private detectives and both decorated police officers working for the white house to case out the watergate six weeks before the break in, according to their role history texas and university of their own biography. there was only one narrative.
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so i think if there had been an alternative news media, would have had a better chance to make his case but let me say this and i think it's important. nixon was both very great and very flawed. the strategic arms limitation with the soviets, he opened the door to china. he desegregated the public schools. he saved israel unilaterally in the 73 jan kipper war. he launched affirmative action and the office of minority enterprise. at the same time, he launched the ignominious racist war on drugs which has been a total failure. he gave us raging price controls so he was i think both very great inand very flawed but i think his
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presidency has been seen inand balanced. bill clinton said this most eloquently at president nixon's funeral. it was time to judge president nixon on his entire e record and his record shows he was a peacemaker. >> host: he died in 1994. you recall your final conversation with him before he suffered a stroke and mark . >> guest: i was supposed to dine with him the day before and i had to cancel but he was very upbeat. hewas never very retrospective or introspective . he was always looking forward . as you know, he came to be a key advisor to president clinton during the breakup of the soviet union and developments in china. also wrote numerous bestsellers on foreign policy in his retirement years. people ask me about my reference for nixon. in a sense, it's almost nonpolitical.
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it has to do with his resilience, his persistence. it's an american story. defeated, not down, disgrace, still kept coming back . the man is not finished when he's defeated, nixon wrote. he's only defeated when he quits. i subscribe to that. >> host: from michigan, henry, you are next with roger stone. your question or comment. >> caller: good morning, gentlemen. i'd like to piggyback off that missouri caller with two points of my own. the first using a metaphor for war. a conventional einvading force into america or any other country when they want to take it over, the first thing they want to do is to take control and command of the country's communication structure. this is what donald trump is doing when he denigrates and undermines our media and when
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he talks so much about enmity of the media and then being such bad people. glad of your content knew that had used conventional forces to invade america, it would have been mutual suicide so what did he do? he used trumps economic or financial situation, his flailing company needed money, no american banks would loan him money so putin and the oligarchs loaned him money, got him financially indebted and now trump is there operative. my second point, the people who were diehard supporters of donald trump, this is where i agree with donald trump about the media being fake. the media says donald trump touched the heart and knows
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the working-class white people and that's why ryhe won. well, this is the thing. these people are not the forgotten people becauseblack people see them every february during black history month and eyes on the prize . >> host: i want to go back to his first response point, you respond to both of them. go ahead. >> guest: i'm sosorry. >> host: the president has not released his tax returns and some indicate there could be a link between his finances and the russian government. >> guest: no one has ever established that donald trump got loans from any russian entity. i have been on therecord as saying he should have released his tax returns all the way back to the 2016 campaign . i said during thecampaign and i think it would clear the air . on the other hand, if you're looking for russian collusion , it's easy to find. $143 million that the clinton
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foundation from executives in the russian owned energy company that was seeking control of 20 percent of america's uranium or the million dollars that bill clinton took in a speaking fee from the same entity. that would seem to be a real effort to influence the clintons by the russians. >> host: the lead from lancaster california, republican line, good morning . >> caller: good morning. thank you mister stone, you are a true patriot. here's a couple things the fake news is talking about. about barack obama's pending mueller with uranium over to russia and another thing is mueller was the guy that brought it over. how could he be investigating anybody? there's another thing. what about the whole middle
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east, the thing in the middle east. the fleecing of the whole middle east under barack obama when he got what was it? the nobel peace prize? who was barack obama or sotomayor? what about his financing from george soros and this whole daca thing is unconstitutional. we've got to quit chasing his tail. let's get down to the bottom of the barack obama administration. >> host: thank you glenn, roger stone?
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>> guest: you raise a number of key points. the previous caller seems to have missed this also. as far as mister mueller is concerned, he arrested the three wrong people in the anthrax matter, the individual he finally arrested died mysteriously in custody. he failed toinvestigate the sarasota florida based school where five of nine hijackers were trained . he let four men rot in all boston jail to cover up for fbi informants involved in the whitey bulger matter. he did fueled it uranium samples to russia during the active acquisition of uranium s one. this is hardly an unblemished record. therefore, that he would now sit in judgment of this president who is clearly an effort to undo what they could not do about box is
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really questionable. >> host: based on what you said, it sounds like those would be some of the talking points when the mueller report comes out to discredit him and his work. >> guest: we don't know what his report will say. we know so far he has yet to come up with any evidence of russian collusion connected to the trump y campaign. even the indictment 13 russian online still doesn't show a clear connection or consistency. at some point they appear to be pro-hillary, anti-hillary, pro-bernie sanders and most of their money is spent after the election. at a minimum they were ineffective within the larger scheme of things. >> david is next, independent line with rogerstone . >> caller: good morning
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c-span, the best channel on television. >> host: good morning david. >> caller: it's an honor to talk to youit again and mister stone . >> host: go ahead, sir, we can hear you . >> caller: mister stone, good morning i'm a world war ii veteran . and i lived through the depression and i remember standing on line with my beloved father, may he rest in peace because food with thousands and thousands of other people. i rememberhaving dinner by candlelight . we didn't have electricity. so i know what it is to do without. and i'd like to make a few comments. excuse me. one has to do with president nixon . i firmly believe that if
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senator robertkennedy had not been assassinated, we would have defeated richard nixon . he would have got us out of vietnam and it would be a different country at that time. secondly, we are the greatest country in the world, mister stone. and we are the greatest country in the world for three words. preamble of the constitution. we the people. >> host: thanks for the call. roger stone, he's a regular viewer and just turned 90 years old and we appreciate his view. your reaction. >> guest: we salute your service. i was happy to see president trump took the $400,000 salary he was given by the government and donated it for the upkeep of veterans cemeteries. i think the veterans health care system in this country may be the number one scandal and something the president
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feels very deeply about fixing. as far as robert kennedy eais concerned, on my of robert kennedy. he was a staunch anti-communist. i don't believe he was a liberal, i grthink he was a pragmatic and very effective leader . i disagree with the idea that he would have defeated nixon because i don't know what southern state he could have carried. i recall in his narrow defeat against john kennedy, nixon lost every southern state. kennedy carried georgia, alabama, mississippi and so on. bobby could never have carried any of those by 1968. he was fully polarizing in the country. the new 4 part netflix series on robert kennedy is really super. i admire him for his commitment to civil rights
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into his staunch anti-communist. >> host: let me get your reaction to comments that made news by senator bob corker, a republican in tennessee . he is now seeking a third term. quote, it's all becoming a conscious tiring, not a key plays for anyparty to end up with a cultlike situation as it relates to the president . it happens to be purportedly of the same party. in reference to president trump and the gop. your comments. >> guest: i think senator corker is upset because president trump is more popular among republicans and all voters in tennessee than he is. this was also true of virtually every republican president who has remade the party in their image. lincoln, eisenhower, certainly reagan.the fact the president's popularity
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transcends the republican party, how he dominates the party is not only typical of successful republican presidents but is really profound. i believe that in places like nebraska for example where the president is far more popular than senator sasso or in tennessee i see this as a cold. i see it as one of the popularity based on his successful governance and the fact that we have four percent economic growth. and this is to the presidents corporate and personal tax cuts having a chance to get traction. 223,000 jobs created in may. 1 million new jobs created says trump became president. we were told that structurally, this did not happen under barack obama but the president isdemonstrating enormous hisuccess .
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in this economy and that's what explains his popularity. not some cold like phenomenon. >> how to win in politics, business and the style, the latest book by roger stone. donald trump's electric victory shows a many things that media have become so diverse that there is no such thing as overexposure. in any election campaign, especially a national race. name recognition is a basic and often extensible. trump years of marketing himself have made that irrelevant in his bed. i put on the table something we talked with the farnsworth and that was the extraordinary thing the president had on the north lawn of the white house reedit . >> network reporters and anchors, they do their standups and reporting but the president coming on fox and friends and holding a 20 minute press availability with the white house press four. that has never happened any previous president. >> i think the president is a master of news cycle.
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he is obviously a master of public relations.the fact that julie one percent of americans knew who he was and knew hislife story as a successful business person , was an enormous way in his effort to become president. >> he has you know about running for president as early as 2000 although i don't think there's very seriously. he considered it very seriously in a 12 reedit running in 2016. i beganurging him to run as early as 1988 . i believe that he had the size and capacity and independence to be a truly great president. he was unconnected to the last 30 years of policy mistakes that had given us and list for more where our
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national interestsare not clear. the erosion of our civil liberties . a stagnant economy. a broken immigration system. huge multi international na trade agreements. which seems to be good for our trading partners but not so good for us when and sucking the job b america. 2016 was the time that donald trump was the right man at the right place with the right message and the american people were tired of all it takes as usual. tired of both parties, republicans and democrats. tired of congress, tired of the system they viewed as fixed against the little man, against the individual. which is why i thought from the beginning trump could be now is a viable candidate and i think potentially a great president. >> from florida, tonya is next with roger stone speed for happy father's day.i wanted to ask about the
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meeting with an fbi undercover far as kind of the cell but counterintelligence of the fbi, to find out if there's any illegal money into the campaign from a foreign country. and also, one small. among many trump said many times publicly most of their money from russia before he ran as president so i can't imagine the fbi not investigating the criminal. >> your comments on. >>. >> were they conducting similar investigation into the clinton foundation and the millions of dollars of foreign money including ukrainian and russian money flowing into that? i believe this idea that the fbi was infiltrating the trump campaign for russian collusion is nonsense.
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they were planting false evidence of russian collusion as part of the insurance policy that peter spoke of in his emails, email suggesting he not hand over to congress and the house intelligence committee only learned about from the inspector general's report was produced or when judicial watch those through a freedom of information act request. so no, i don't think it is the role of the fbi to infiltrate a presidential campaign. i'm betting paul with nixon, west point and went down because individuals connected to his campaign broke into the democratic national committee and planted bombs which really actually work and also because his campaign got caught infiltrating the
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campaigns of his opponents. first, senator humphrey, then senator george mcgovern. what we see today is far more egregious. it is the use of authority and power of the state to conduct surveillance and infiltrate one of the two major parties presidential campaign. the use of a fabricated dossier as the underlying legal rationale for surveillance on trump associates, i believe myself included, is an outrageous abuse of power that makes watergate look like second great burglary. >> host: let me go back since the caller brought itup again and the headline in the post says , one part of the story that you might caputo said in separate interviews that they did not expose the greenberg meeting before the house select committee, then
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further it points out there have been 11 different conversations between trump campaign officials and russian operatives. >> guest: i didn't recall this exchange because i viewed it as innocuous and fairly ridiculous. you million dollars for unspecified documents? i have informed the committee i expected to testify before the senate intelligence committee. i would like that testimony to be in public , not behind closed doors. it's certainly there to discuss what was said. i sent through my attorney a letter to the inspector general and to the house chairman of the intelligence committee, telling them everything i know about this recent meeting. i can't the 11 other contacts . i can only speak based on my own experience. >> host: are you worried about being indicted by robert mueller?
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>> guest: i wouldn't say i am worried about it. i find it interesting that they seem to be poking through every molecule of my personal, political and business life, seeking to subpoena former employees who were working for me during the 2016 election and other longtime associate in what appears to be some effort to frame me in an effort to silence me because i remain a critic of the mueller investigation.>> if the effort is to find some extraneous bogus offense, to pressure me to testify against the president, i'm not going to do that. >> but clearly, they are empty-handed on the question of russian collusion. empty-handed in terms of receiving anything for wikileaks or julian aside for anyone else. on to the trump campaign. i think this is a witch hunt
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and i think it is outrageous. it is orwellian. we clearly live in a police state. i thought this was a russian collusion and in the 2016 election. why would mister mueller be interested in interviewing or associate of mine who were working for me during the 2016 election #ácustomá is there a possibility to frame me? i will respond accordingly. >> often do you talk to the president? >> it's been a while now. >> sometimes to time, i believe his lawyers have probably advised him that it would be best if we did not talk until this entire matter was clarified what i remain the strongest supporter. there was a new york times reports that the president feared me. that makes no sense. he had nothing to fear from me. i'm among his strongest supporters and i have no
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intention of making something up and testifying against him. if that's what the special counsel as in mind. >> wewill is in sandusky on. good morning . >> caller: they should impeach him. because he's a womanizer, he raised all these people. and they don't want, they haven't done one thing about it. they don't show his taxes and all he thinks about is the big people and the with the little people. >> i think it's a dirty shame. >>. >> will get a reaction. >> if that were the criteria, they jack kennedy and bill clinton. it's interesting we are still trying to clarify bill clinton's activities oas
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infidelities or indiscretions when the issue is far more serious. his s sexual assault and rape. these charges against donald trump are unproven and i don't think they are the basis for any kind of impeachment. >> john in columbia south carolina, republican line. you are on air with roger stone . >> today is father's day. and as someone who understands american history, and how people of color as slaves had their families separated, children taken away from mothers and fathers, how can you and how can the president support a policy that he has created that is separating thyoungsters from their parents at our order? >> the real answer is people shouldn't come into the country illegally and then they would not be separated from their families. when the question of pardons came up, i was very clear
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that almost a year ago, i wrote to the president to urge him suto issue a posthumous pardon to marcus party, and early civil rights leader who was an advocate of lack education, lack responsibility, black pride, black identity i think was a truly great man who was unfairly targeted and set my fbi. because he was just beginning to organize. so i having worked for richard nixon who gave us affirmative action, who desegregated the public schools without violence or bloodshed, who created the office of minority enterprise , i identified with that struggle. but i think this question is a different one. if you don't want to be separated from your children, attempts to enter the country
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illegally had a problem with our immigration system seems lto be people who are waiting in line, the people going through the process legally are being cheated by those who are entering the country illegally. cheating the system. the president is tweeting this morning and just a short while ago one of his number one target, washington post and eject basis. you make the following, washington post employees want to go on strike because basis isn't paying enough. i think a really long strike would be a great idea. lawyers would get more money and we would get rid of the news for an extendedperiod of time. washington post is a registered lobbyist ? >> guest: i think the president holding the mainstream media's to the fire is a good thing. obviously i agree with it. i don't you can monolithically plan the mainstream media is entirely bibiased.
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there are biased reporters washington post, there are and honest reporters washington post. there are biased reporters at the new york times, there are fine and honest reporters at the new york times but the president gets more than his share of fake news. and things are published about him and his family that are untrue. above all, he is a counterculture and i think a very effective one . >> new york, independent line. >>. >> i like the answer that t you gave to the last caller about illegal immigration. i wanted to say that when you think veterans, i start to see that as just let service because i see the democrats and my own town hall tripping over each other to help
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illegal immigrants tand do nothing for us. dynasty in the ms 13 stuff here in the brentwood area and displaces turning into a third world country and i le can't get the town to do anything about it but you've got these houses loaded up with you will only happen people. you've got five to aroom and the single-familyhouses . the town isn't doing anything about it . they're getting all kinds of benefits i never get and i appreciate the comments you gave to the last person about them coming in here illegally. on talker wocarlson, he talked about this guy with the two kids that got arrested and then i think the government, new york stepped in. he was driving without a ra license and without insurance . if i did that, forget about it. sthis is the kind of stuff i'm talking about, thank you. >> host: we should point out talker carlson writingthe introduction to your latest book . roger stone? >> guest: you raise an
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excellent point, a perfect example . in the president criticized gang violence specifically, the mainstream media depicted that when he called them animals as a denunciation of all immigrants, not what he says.perfect example of the mainstream media bias against this president. >> host: we go to sandra joining us from point michigan, good morning. >> caller: i have a few things to say to mister stone. there's a big difference in taking millions of dollars for your foundation, as long as you don't use a penny on yourself and the clinton foundation , food and age medication for people all over the world. is, donald
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white house. why so many? guest: well, i'm kind of disappointed in the fact that in many cases the president has hired people who don't support his agenda and who are not loyal to him or that agenda. therefore, the back-biting and leaking is very disappointing. working in the white house is probably the highest political our you can have in business. our business. no one elected you. donald trump was elected and you serve at his pleasure and his appointment you his appoin him both your discretion and your loyalty. host: the book is titled stone's rules. how to win at politics, business, and style. author and republican strategist roger stone joining us from fort lauderdale, florida. thank you for
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>> a critical look at the feminist movement. randy hunter@ chronicles the history of hormonal research in or out. us intelligence officer malcolm nance argues that latin american and his spies influenced the presidential election. the book the plot to destroy democracy. and the king of content, media reporter for the wall street journal explores the life of the media mogul sumner redstone and the future of eds, viacom and the rest of the empire and in squeezed, executive editor of the economic chip reporting project examines the lives of middle-class families to make ends meet and offers potential solutions. also being published, carmen gillespie looks at how social media determines what user posted content to censor or promote in a failure of the
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internet and helen thompson explores the lives of nine people with rare brain disorders in unthinkable. look for these titles in bookstores this week and watch for many of the authors in the near future on book tv on c-span2. >> the old name in the village with obsolete in 1949 when the communists the mainland and proceeded to relay history and street names and names. the local registry in new york city, no one had ever heard of the place. a nearby police station, officers said little and offered less. we resorted to pestering
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strangers, pedestrians, cabbies, peddlers, for some sign of mining. quickly, the inquiries fell into a predictable sequence. an initial moment of hope, a divergent from the main topic and finally the phrase tool, it's not clear. i approached a middle-aged man with a group face weathered by a life of farming. before they could talk, i pounced quickly. when you start your brain, you can hesitate. i we were at a place called mining, heard of it? the man repeats the words out loud and then as it would provide further illumination, he says them again read times as loud . what are you doing there? >> it's our home. we start talking around the world andi'm going to skip to this man moving on to the . shanghai, it's too crowded, too chaotic and they are too much of a snob, looking down on our country. yes they are, no arguments. are you by yourself? no, my father is with me in the car.
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can you help me find it? another pause. it's not very clear. i move on. i lived in china for a dozen years. i've taken years of mandarin lessons. i can recite a mandarin dynasty poem is my understanding of china and that phrase. in a literal sense of phrase means it's not very clear but it has its linguistic flexibility. anytime i find a new context it turns up in any way. it means atleast these things. i can't help you, i don't know , iwill help you , i don't want to tell you, i'll get in trouble if i tell you, you don't deserve to know and i'm moving on. >> the paradox of china people making predatory statements with absolute certainty in critical moments by reaching to their pocket.
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to complete the circle there quickly, we were spinning our wheels my father and i in 2009 and finally we get a trip, my uses a call and she says i found something. there is a time that seems to be close to this village. we go to the town and we find this guy and we asked him, have you heard of this place? i haven't heard too long by knowing i area so he gets into the van so now there's a driver and this guy gets in and he called his friend who's on the outskirts of this townand we drive there . so we find this other friend there and he says this is really familiar. i know a guy. and he gets in. now there's five people in this clown car and we go pick up the third person and when he gets into the car, it gets quite like a priest just
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walked into the vehicle and stepped in because it's the party secretary. that's the most important conjuring, a member of the communist party even in this forlorn place. and so he leads us to the village which is a very kind of basic place. it's certainly not paid, it's next to a sturdy tree and the houses are very basic. each hall has a little plot of land, grows vegetables. there's no indoor plumbing, a separate structure for that. there's another separate structure for cooking. we've been in these basic villages before and basic economics are if you can send somebody out there of a city that can make some money and send it, village stays alive but otherwise it doesn't. so what we learned about my great-grandfather is he was a student who in the late 1800s
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went out to japan so he was part of this early dollar generation. this time when china is remarkably weak toward the end of imperial china and we are going to the most modern place in asia to learn about the ideas in the outside and how theycan help china and places japan . >> watch this and other programs online at >> ..
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>> next on booktv's "after words," television and radio host bill press retraces his transition to progressive politics. he's interviewed by syndicated columnist mona charen. "after words" is a weekly interview program with guest host anything top nonfiction authors about their latest work. >> host: bill press, a new book "from the left: a life in the crossfire." this is a memoir as well as political testimonial about where you stand, right? >> guest: it is. good to see you, mona. i call it my memoir part one. this is the end of the road. >> host: barack obama wrote a memoir in his 30s so it doesn't say anything you wrote a memoir now.


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