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great privilege we head of working in this country. those who made it too difficult times in the past and how hopefully that we can make it through challenging times as well. .. what was their relationship of john and bobby to teddy? "washington journal" continues. host: we welcome author and syndicated columnist ann coulter who is out with a new book, "resistance is futile.". we will get to the book but first i want to make use of your legal background and get your thoughts. caller: i was wondering if that might come up. [laughter] -- guest: i was wondering if that might come up. [laughter] guest: i write a little about both cases in the book. the paul manafort case has nothing whatsoever to do with
trump. the ones ofmple of you import we have in this country, the office of the special counsel, robert mueller. rosen signed commission -- rosenstein should have just said , we think this guy is a sleaze, there must be something there. and now we have paul manafort and 17 talented prosecutors who are also liberal democrats searching for crimes of anyone around donald if you do that to anyone, how would your viewer like somebody looking through. cite in the back, harry sill sir glade called three felonies a day and his argument is there are so many federal felonies, not to mention all the state felonies the average law aabiding person could be innocently committing three felonies a day. i follow -- i assume it's
associated with the book were crime and day on twitter and they happen to be voluming by, and one is it's a federal felony not to label a tampon on the level of an sore ben si. we don't even know how many federal crimes there are because there are so many. there was once an attempt to counseled them by the depth of justice, gave up in frustration. so, anyone who is fixated on -- especially something complicated like tax law and i find this hilarious one of the lines in bang -- that was a huge issue, brought down the economy that's correct democrats are pushing, liar loans, cite unemployment benefits because we need everybody to buy a house, that was official government policy opposed by not all republicans but the only people who did oppose it were republicans and they were yelled but barbie frank and maxine water asks that
was people buying on loan -- lying on loans sparks and he's getting nailed for it. it's comical. as for the tax case -- i'm not a tax lawyer but i do know that there are ways to evade taxes and it was pioneered by george soros, if you make now abroad to keep them in conditions abroad and when and how you have to report them and how much and george soros has been moving money back and fort from the cayman islands and i ireland. he is worth 20 billion-how but looking at him. >> host: should the trump administration be more concerned about the co hand guilty plea, the campaign finance violations he pled guilty to and implicating president trump as the banner headline across "the new york times" today? >> guest: it's kind of hard to say because manafort has absolutely 100% nothing to dive with trump, even less to do with
russian collusion. cohen, i think it exposes the special counsel -- look, cohen doesn't look like necessarily the sort of person i would choose to be my legal representative or anything else. he does seem a little bit shady. let me put it that way. so i'm not dish think most people aren't floored that there were some tax irregularities. the fact that they threw in a campaign finance violation for paying stormy daniels, that just shows the whole point is to get trump. and i describe campaign finance violations in the book. i will say very quickly, the single most important point, people in washington know, most normal people have no idea anything about campaign finance violations all to the they're being discussed as it's a crime. they're very complicate. the most important thing to know
is, is this money that would have been spent but for the campaign? it's going to be very hard to prove that a man whose namesake is all of his businesses, his golf courses, his hotels, that, oh, yeah, other than the affect was running for office, i don't care if everyone thinks i'm sleeping around with these floridays. >> on the hamilton conviction, that conviction was increase the pressure on others in trump's orbit to cooperate with mueller and may encourage mule tore move sooner rather than later to bring in the president himself to testify, possibly by issuing subpoenas. do you think that's the case into i think we have been hearing the same thing for two years, something i make fun november my book. we keep hearing, the noose is tyingenning, you start with the little fish and move to the big fish and then nothing happens and nothing has happened. it's not good for manafort or cohen hi and think it does further expose the special counsel as being just --
convening a star chamber to look at one manned and everyone around him. don't think a lot of people -- so far trump and a lot of people around him have survived that but that isn't the way the law is supposed to work in america. >> host: what is your advice to president today? >> guest: um, cohen, nothing. he has nothing to worry about. i think that's a very silly case. at worst, let's say he's guilty. he'll have to pay a fine. um, butter it's cohen's word, who is now fighting for his life and is going to say, no, no, the president told me that he was only doing this because he was running for president but i refer you to the john edwards case where he had very wealthy donors, bunny melon, paying millions of dollars to put up his mistress when he was running for president, his pregnant
mistress. he went to court, every everyone rid could the prosecution and acquit moodily. are those donors still paying for his mistress? i don't think so. think that clearly had to do with the campaign though it's going to be very hard to prove trump wouldn't have cared. i don't think the -- what these women are alleging is just stormy daniels or both or them. >> host: karen mcdougal. >> guest: paying for both of them. >> host: i believe it was money for karen mcdougal's story sunny don't believe either one of them. could be wrong. and i doesn't matter. i think one of the things i'm not wild about the president for is all the style matter. the only political thing i'm angry with him for is not billing the wall. but i'm from connecticut and we don't consider it tasteful to brag about your wealth but if you're bragging about you wealth and hanging around with reality
tv stars and playboy bunnies probably going to get a lot of suit, a lot of nuisance suit monday and don't think the carn mcdougal one, she says she had an fair for one year and doesn't have a scrap offed? i could date a boy for a week and give you five pieces of evidence. she had nothing? didn't leave any cuff links behind no answering machine message? the other one claims a one-time roll in the sack and i think overlaying off of this, it's worth remembering that donald trump is a germ aphone, so i find -- i don't believe it. maybe it will be true but i don't believe it. >> host: what's your feeling on issuing pardons for either manafort or cohen? >> guest: not cohen. cohen has made a big mistake, i think. he reminds me, if you remember, the hero of the paula jones case. of the clinton issue. was paula jones, and as soon as it was over, she allowed the
clinton flaks, including lanie y davis to latch on to her, get her to do a playboy spread, we're going to take her done and that's what lanny davis is doing with cohen. so now both sides hate you. >> host: ann coulter with us until the program ends at 10:00. phone lines for republicans, 202, 748-800, 1 democrats 742-8000. independents 742-8002. out with a new book as of yesterday, resistance is futile, how the trump hating left lost its collective mind i. want to jump to the conclusion of your book. >> guest: that's a good one. >> host: the title of the conclusion page, for democracy to live we must kill the media. strong language, explain. >> guest: yes. well, the previous 200 whatever pages will more clearly illustrate why. luckily i don't have a job so i can spend months just reading through nextus lexus transports
of every constitution on -- transcripts of every discussion on trump in msnbc, cnn, the "new york times" and it's stunning the contradictions. not only from year to year, month to month but day to day, the position of the resistance which has income passed the media is simply where is trump on this? that's awful. to the extent of not caring about criminal defendants rights, jumping in with both feet on bullying people. facts on logic. how about russian collusion do we care about russian collision collusion, i have a tape, hillary clinton's campaign and the dnc and the fbi paid russians for information on the opponent, donald trump. we got a russian collusion all right but most of it has been liberal. and i am "the new york times" most devoted and loyal reader. but used to be you could read a
"new york times" article and, yeah, okay issue wouldn't have made this paragraph one in fact i wouldn't have made those first six paragraphs the first paragraph. but eventually i'll get some facts. it's getting to the point you can't even turn to the gold standard of journalism and expect to get facts from it. so i think we need to destroy the media and rebuild it along more ethical lines. that's the one thing its looks like we might get out of trump since it doesn't look we're getting a wall. >> host: if you destroy the media what does that mean for you? didn't you make a career -- >> guest: we still have meeta, just would be an ethical media. they would tell the truth. not be fake news. they would not be sending away citizens in a democracy who need facts to know what is going on with a false story. >> host: one paragraph from your book from that conclusion page, you write, trump may be shallow, narcissistic, disloyal, and the crudest kind of bragert but is
like chemotherapy nor country. unmessant, you vomit, your hair falls out but kills cancer cells and you live. trump's president say may be unpleasant by everyone on "the new york times" editorol board will die. has "the new york times" reached out about that specific paragraph? would you care if they did. >> guest: no. i invited them to the book party down here. many of them are my friends. there are one or two good reporters at the "new york times," but there are enough who are not and certainly the editorar board, the most recent edition, mom who dedicated her free time to cheering for the genocide of white men. that's going a long way to make the media look objective and fair, any "new york times" good job. >> host: beer talking with an coulter, the book puerto rico resistance is futile." greg is first in alabama,
republican. from huntsville, good morning. >> caller: good morning. yeah, i just want to say, first thing saw would was trump was elected issue happened to by watching coverage on several different network and i had a feeling we would get to this opinion when i saw don lemon and his words say, as trump was elected, there's just no way to polish this turd. never seen that kind of disrespect, anybody on any respectable network would have been fired, and every $17 million we come up and discover that there may be a small infraction, may not be an infraction, there's no russian collusion. we still haven't front russian collusion. we tightening the screws on everyone around him, raiding his personal attorney's home and basically we come up with the fact that he may have had sex with two women. a billionaire mon that may have had sex out of wedlock.
don't think it was worth $17 million. >> host: ann coulter. >> guest: no. that's a great point. one of the good things pout having wherein so many book but so much in politics is there a lot of flashbacks in any book, so on the campaign finance violation points, since that's in the news now, you may recall, i think many c-span viewer witnessle recall during the christian to era we had chinese nationals literally dragging duffel bags of cash to the dnc. we had the white house holding fundraisers in the white house. that's a big campaign finance violation, holding a fundraiser on federal property. eventually videotapes emerged and is a point out in the book, saturday night live was tougher on clinton that attorney general janet reno was. no independent counsel for that. in the newspaper of record, the "new york times," chastised
janet reno for her, quote, blunders. so, come on, girl me a break. >> host: indianaa, mcclain, virginia, independent. good morning. >> yes, find its breath taking, ann, you're twisting yourself into a pretzel and denigrating your own integrity by pursuing this what aboutism. let's focus on being an american first rather than a conservative. let's stop talking about democrats and republicans and liberals. basically you're saying that all of these honorable people who have come out, republican and democrats, who have come out and said, what this president has done to the office of the presidency is heinous, and you are basically saying our entire justice system is incompetent. you're saying someone who commits bank fraud -- i'm a banker, app. you're basically saying someone
who commits bank fraud and tax evasion and -- is complicit with the president to commit fraud -- you're basically just, oh, laughing its all away. i find you to be heinous. >> host: get your point, nadia. a lot of anger there. >> guest: a lot of anger there might want to see someone about that. two points on that. one is the idea that it's the country first and not republicans and democrats, precisely why people like me were so excited about the trump presidency. i don't think it's republicans versus democrats and i think the trump candidacy exposed that. i think it's this town, republicans and democrats, united against the people. and trump totally exposed that. he came into office with the people behind him. yes, i agree in theory, though, clearly not with the ick mix indication of what nadia was saying, that, yeah, what but
america first? i think 9 posers republicans and 100% of democrats all they care about who is pulling the strings, donors and more current news, in the primary for -- i have one more point on indianaa. the what-about-ism. a crucial point. but primary for governor in wyoming, pitted -- i think it's the state treasurer against a very, very wealthy man, foster frees, don't know for a lot of causes that i think are fantastic, and i completely wholeheartedly support. going around wafers doing interviews and people were chitchatting out it. i'm in washington and i kept saying, a i talked to yes, 100%, foster fries was going to win i kept saying isn't he a little old? oh, but he spends so much money. that's washington for you. they still think you win elections with money.
trump spent less money than sanders did. >> host: the straight treasurer, mark gordon won that race. >> guest: yeah. i wake up and see, everybody else was wrong and ann was right. it's not that ann is right. trump was right, push popular ideas and you win. you can't even see i keep pointing to the capitol building. why do politicians still think that elections are won we modify? they won with popular ideas and what is interesting about trump is he is not a down the line republican. he didn't run on tax cuts. that's why some ticked off he began with tax cuts and the mitch mcconnell agenda. >> host: what is your relationship with the -- >> guest: top -- let met get to the what-about-ism. i it is just so massively unfair. just every precedent being dropped right and left. to say, oh, no, we don't want to hear about what hillary clinton
and bill clinton could do. that's what-about-ism. for those who don't know. it's also known as the rule of law. like cases are treated alike. this is why lady justice is wearing a blindfold and holding a scale. it's not supposed to matter if you're last name is trump or clinton. what-about-ism is a terrifying attempt to destroy the entire construct of the rule of law. like cases are treated alike. >> host: do you want to chat bit your relationship with the trump administration right now? >> guest: i'm -- well, for those of you who follow me on twitter, you know i was his most vocal and immediate supporter. i think this campaign was magnificent. think trump has stunning political instincts. i love as i wrote in my labook in trump we trust, seeing these washington style republicans going on tv all the time and denouncing trump, saying he is not a real republican.
half at the country is saying, fantastic, not a republic. thank you for remind he me. an all new party of the people, and, yeah, of course i've been quite disappointed in many ways he has abandon thad. >> host: president trump tweeting this morning, this time talk bought poll manafort, i feel very badly for paul manafort and his wonderful family. justice in quotation took a 123-year-old tax and is, applied tremendous pressure on him and unlike michael cohen, refused to break, that -- visit from what the president said about his former lawyer 40 minutes ago, if anyone is looking for a good lawyer i strongly suggest you don't retain the services of michael cohen. >> guest: i do think trump -- i love trump's tweets. thick he should tweet more. the difference in manafort and cohen reminds me of -- have you ever seen one of hi favorite
movies "true romance." >> host: i have not. >> over such an intel almost talk to. the can tsa between elliott who is pulled over for a traction vie someplace the girlfriend, alabama, who gets beaten up for 20 minutes in a hotel room this differs between man afort and cohen. i'll tell you anything, yes. that's cohen. >> host: griffin, georgia, next, dotty, democrat good morning. >> caller: yeah, just want to give my opinion. i have read some things that she wrote. i think ann coulter is crazy. she wants to us believe that we have been watching for the last 18 months -- >> guest: what have you read -- >> caller: is not read. >> caller: i've read a few thing. >> guest: like what. >> i don't have to give he you the name -- the same way you don't have to give us any evidence that the clintons committed any crimes. you're not saying a thing about trump's foundation.
kicking it out of new york because he was cheating. you're not saying anything but how he took the money from the foundation and bought himself a big portrait and stuck it in his building. not saying anything but how he is going golfing every weekend, on our money. and have the nerve to talk about what somebody else did. i'm-- i do watch it. i have seen his rallies. all he talks about is hillary clinton is a crook, he has no evidence that hillary clinton is a crook. >> guest: i don't know why people can't just make points and -- must lie and begin saying they read things by me which she obviously hasn't. just make your point next time. the facts they're going to trump golfs to too much and the nonsense about one charity buying a portrait for another charity for a fundraising drive. that's probably about all robert mueller has, which is why he is going into campaign finance, and
old sex cases. >> ohio, hazel, republican, good morning. >> caller: good morning. congratulations on your book, ann, and god bless you. i think donald trump has been the catalyst this country has needed for a long, long time. what he has done is waken the american public and the american public is starting to speak out. they've been silenced for a long, long time. they really don't pay attention to the news media, the fake news at and all that nine. can't be fooled anymore. donald trump has been the catalyst that has awakened america. with the help from people like yourself, of course. and i think that i'm very optimistic about our future because of this. the more trash they throw on donald trump, the more red the states are going to become. it's ironic they cannot hurt this man with all of their nastiness because we have awakened in america and we care
about our country. our veterans care about our country. i care about our country. care but a the ought. i'm going to be 88. and i'm so happy to see this man come to the forefront and is doing -- god bless you and thank you. >> guest: thank you. i do think -- that's the point of my last chapter. that trump accomplished a lot in -- and it's a serious thing to get people to laugh at the media, and some of us have been there for a while. as i say in the book, it's like a hit man who goes into the witness protection program, goes out to iowa, living under a false name and then decides to run for office under his own name and then, bam, dead. that's what the media has done to itself. i always knew what they were but so lost their minds withtrump. they can't control the venom and the nonsense and the contradictions.
and we have -- at the same time trump constantly bashing them, and alerting, i think, much wider swath of americans to the fact that you can't trust the media. >> host: trump constantly bashing the media and some concern from the media about the language he uses. this is from the end of last month, "new york times" publisher, after his meeting with the president putting out this statement: i told the president directly his language was increasingly dangerous. toy held document all throw the phrase fake news is untrue and harmful i'm far more corn but hi labels journalists the enemy of the people emi warned this inflammatory language is contributing to a rise of threats against journalist and will lead to violence. >> guest: journalists have to worry about some opinionallity of violence and trump supporterrer have to live with actual violence. since trump's -- actually since the trump campaign, what we have seen is actual fascistic
violence at trump campaign, women having eggs thrown at them at the rally in santa cruz, the vicious attacks that shut down the trump rally in chicago at the inauguration. the riots in the streets. none of them prosecuted am few struck plea bargains 200 arrest but the judge throws out the most important charge. you have repeated violence at berkeley whenever they invite a conservative to speak. we had the night of freedom in new york city, this is exposed by job thousand livine at the rap. the took a video of just these happy, not all of them-trump supporter. i wasn't. their knew somebody who went to one of them. liberals, gays, a night of freedom. and they come out on the street of new york, and one guy is -- one who attended, cold-cocked, head smashed into the con cream look like he was dead, just lying there in the video. carted off to the hospital. this week you have the social
distortion concert with the trump supporter beaten up by the lead singer as the crowd of hundreds of people are cheering on one guy against 600. and going to talk about the potentiality of violence. give me a break. i if you care about violence you'll cult down antifa and violent lefties because we're saying many aspects of fascism rising and against trump supporter. >> host: christian, line for independents, good morning. >> caller: good morning, thank you for c-span and thank you to miss coulter there for being a guest. i would like to remind everyone that this entire investigation was started by a conspiracy to defraud the fisa court. what we're seeing unfold before our eyes right now is a communist coup under color of law. thank you.
>> guest: well, i do -- is a say i think a special counsel with this roving mandate to investigate, see if you can find anything there anyone around trump, this is -- have a commission. how was it all start? started because james comey was going -- was out there wildly insinuating the president was under investigation so is a quote in the book, when james comey was fired, all of the news media -- well, of course, cos of watergate all the time with republicans and especially trump always seeing echos watergate. it was all about trump is under investigation. he fires the man investigating him. it took months later to -- for comey to finally admit trump was never under investigation so the entire basis for the special counsel -- the president is under investigation, he's fired the man investigating him. no, not only was he not under investigation bus as we found
out when it turned out there were spies on the trump campaign, the fbi said no, we weren't spying on you, we were protecting you. you weren't under investigation. now we have it on the authorize over the investigators not only trump but his campaign was never under investigation. so what is the theory for the special counsel other than this guy looks like a sleaze. see if you can fine something there mr. mueller. if that's the standard i'd like george honor rouse investigates, terri mcauliffe. seems shady to me. >> host: about 25 minutes left with ann coulter. he book, resistance is futile, how the trump hating left lost its collective mind. taking calls and comments. phil is next, stillwell, oklahoma, democrat. good morning. >> caller: good morning. everybody in washington is writing a book, making money off this thing and it's just kind of funny. but my comment is, i hope that they can go back and let people
vote for the president, not the electoral college. i think that's completely wrong. and why i say that is, if they would have went by the people roz vote we would not have this idiot -- and i do say idiot in the white house. her should have never governmenten gotten there. he should have been kicked out before he had a chance to run for president. this is just despicable, it's sorry, and you know, i hated every day. i'm not saying hillary would have been better but how could you get any worse than what is in there now? if he wants to do rallies and -- i mean, jumping in at the street and happiness? wait until he gets impeached. it's coming. >> guest: he reminds me of one of my favorite actual jokes for the trump era, the norm mcdonald joke, the voters hated hillary so moisture they voted for someone they hate even
more. >> host: the caller says everyone is writing a book, talk us about your work and your book that came out this week. before you came on we had the young turks on our program. he talked about your work. i'll give you chance to respond to some of what he said but you. here's earlier this morning. >> that the right wing billionaires actually pay a lot of the people you see on tv, just gobs of money to do propaganda for them, including ann coulter, paid nonstudent we right wingers to spread hatred and fear and largely for her profit and their profit when they get deregulation and tax cuts. >> guest: now, man, i wish. i could use that money. no one has ever paid my except the people who buy my book and thank you readers for buying my book. i've been hearing this since the clinton era, being funded -- kept checking my mail box, hoping for that check to come
through. i don't know wife it's comforting for liberals to think this. they apparently don't want me writing books. i definitely picked that up. but sorry that's what i do for a living. i'm not saying everyone is writing books. most of the books -- my very first book, high crimes and minneapoliss which i came on c-span -- i like you tweeted that photo of me in 1998. my publisher called me and said when it -- it wasn't the first un -- the second one, slander, said congratulations you're not only are are you on the best eller list but the only person who wrote her own book on the bestseller list. i've been trying to get in the "new york times" for years to -- they have all those differently is. hard cover, paper book, i would like a list for authors who wrote their own books am very different list because mostly it's just celebrity piece-of-crap. what i have can't the sale mugs or door mats.
why do they have to pretend to have written a book. aim a great write and i research my own books and a great writer and ail kerr research jeer under book you write most of my friends can't be mentioned in an ann coulter book. why. >> guest: because they work in industries where they'd never work again. >> host: mike is up next, akron, ohio, independent. good morning. >> caller: yes good, morning. thank you for c-span. just so happens i didn't vote for trump. i had to hold my nose like you want believe to vote for hillary but i like trump more. have a got of money from this casinos. used to go there every summer and play black jack. i won more than i lost. but i just don't think he's qualified for the job if always like lebron james, i live two miles from lebron james. love to the guy. wouldn't vote for that guy if he were the mayor of akron. he's not qualified. so, the way i look at it is, if trump is forced from office,
makes no difference to me. replaced by mike pence, not by hillary clinton. i just think he's like a ross perot. admired ross perot but he is a showman and that's what trump is. he is just not qualified doctor the job he has. like the guy. i wouldn't vote for lebron james for mayor of akron as much as i like lebron james. >> guest: oh, what i would say to the caller is, i think trump is exactly what we need right now. i think washington has really gotten fat and happy and forgotten about the people who voted for. the. trump was pushing a lot of ideas that used to be thing that democrats claimed to agree with. used to care about -- pretend to care about the working class, the manufacturing base, they used to be not for wall street. trump turned that upside-down.
took no money from wall street. itself was over e90% of the money was for hillary, and the other 10% wasn't for trump. it was for some third party candidate is why, yes, again, some of us who supported trump the candidate were a little disappointed when he got into the white house and turned the keys to the kingdom over to goldman sack, but, day, that's why i say -- my book is for you because maybe we're not going to get the things he ran on. the most important ones, trade, immigration no more wars, instead he turns and starts pushing mitch mcconnell agenda. cutting regulation is important negotiate economy going. think tax cuts were more a second term kind of thing. we really wanted the wall first. but to bust up the system, to expose the media for what it is. if that's all we get out of this guy, yeah, i vote for lebron, i'd vet for al sharpton, just to bust up the system, because i
think it's gotten so corrupt. another great thing trump has done, exposing the swamp. that was beautiful. that was beautiful. a concept none of us had before. exposing the media. exposing the swamp. disappointed as i am -- and there's still time, still time, mr. president, you can still build the wall and come through on the immigration promises. there was one -- i know. in my acknowledgments you mentioned why can't they be named? it would be worth mentioning one of my very brave fund e friends, among the jobs -- hollywood can't claim to know me -- but also people who might -- i'm a lawyer so people of my friend are lawyers. they might couple for judgeships. so usually i will check with my friends in advance become for slander, treason, one friend is miguel estrada and was going to be like a rocket to the supreme court. he is brilliant, fabulous.
really, really brilliant, and the best lawyer i know. i e-mailed him out of politeness to thank him and say you probably can't be thanked but i'd loaf to think you. i send my friended chapters or segments and he said to me, brave man that he is, my friends come first. of course you can thank me. i thanked him and when he was nominate told the d.c. circuit, chuck schumer went to the senate floor and denounced him for being thanked in one of my books. >> 15 minutes left. terry in north carolina, republican go ahead. >> caller: yes. good morning, miss coulter. glad to see somebody who thinks like i do. during the last election my biggest thing was hillary clinton could look into the mirror and the reflection would have been jeb bush. >> guest: yes. >> host: i am so sick of washington. i tried for years to get c-span to actually run and tell us where our money goes. think our taxpayer money should
be broke down into quart hes and we should know to the exact penny how they spend our money. the way the irs wants to know how we spend our money. >> guest: i just want their salaries. one great thing coming out of this russian nonsense is to see how much people like petitioner strong and lisa page and this and that personal i being paid. normally the dial with the government job is, it's fun, it's not that much work, you work self-it's, absolutely can't be fired. unbelievably great health care and the pension. who gets pensions anymore? tradeoff is, your salary isn't that high. you have a higher salary in the private sector but you can be fired on a dime, your health care, you have to pay for, now it's she reverse, government workers gait all that and make more than people in the private sector. how about start with a an across the board cut of federal
salaries. >> spring hill, florida, jeh good, morning. democrat. >> caller: thank you for caking my call. i'd like to point out two bits of hypocrisy by ann coulter. if you can would you please put up the statement that trump made today about manafort because i'd like for her to explain to me what he means when he says, manafort didn't break? break what? didn't break by telling the truth? didn't break by -- >> guest: no, by making stuff up. >> oh, well, of you have making stuff up, that is easily proven. okay? you can do that. that's what a court of law is for. and you talk about this russian nonsense. whether or not trump himself went to meet and do some kind of collusionsive thing is irrelevant. what is relevant is that he has
not only put other people in charge of that, like his son, but also he has surrounded himself with the best people. crooks. guy like manafort. five republican presidents and he's been doing this for years? >> guest: um, never got the hypocrisy on the call but i got another very angry caller. now, let's see. the question was, manafort -- >> host: originally on the breaking, the president saying that manafort -- i feel badly for paul manafort and his wonderful family. they applied tremendous pressure on him and unlike michael co hundred he refused refused to in parenthesis -- in quotes, break. >> guest: right. well, can it be proved? i think what michael cohen said is almost by definition -- what he was required to say because
is like elliott in true romance. whatever you want me to say. on campaign finance the punishment which will be a fine and darling obama paid nearly half a million dollars in fines on campaign finance violation, stop pretending like the monica -- >> host: the presidents latest twice, i michael cohen met guilty to two counts of campaign finance violations. not a crime. president obama had a big campaign violation it and was eat e easily settled. >> guest: the laws or byzantine. the most important point but the campaign finance violation is proving the intent to affect the campaign. now, normally not -- rooting around, digging for a crime on people who haven't done anything, so it's quite obvious. for example, with -- well, many cases like this but it was in the news, -- you pay people the
maximum amount. reimburse them to donate to a campaign you're not just randomly writing people for $2,010. here, wouldn't trump -- wouldn't he have made to keep an affair quiet, to keep it from his wife, ivanka, to keep it from people in his clubs and resorts? the prosecutor would have to prove, as -- it was a little more obvious in the john edwards case because i don't think those donors are paying for his mistress now. they were supporting her flying around the country, paying for -- living large with a bunch of democratic very wealthy people, millionaire. irthey still paying or mistress? why. that's clearly connected connected to a cap pain. the prosecution was laughed at and he as acquitted. and one other thing about campaign violations in this case
ignorance of the law is a defense. >> host: until charlesston, steve, independent. >> caller: good morning, john good, morning, ann. i tuned in late so if my comments have been covered i apologize. you're right, the media does need overhauling. it's a shame that it's abused, and sometimes actually media bias works in the favor of the candidate that that tick outlet opposes and the troops rally around but thomas jefferson had a lot to say about a free press. there's a difference and thomas jefferson's day, media coverage wasn't instant and he also had a lot to say about editing. there's no editing toddes -- my there may be in newspapers built in media, everything is instant. radio, tv, social media. commentary is out there without editing and that's a big problem and that's the reason we need overhaul. i'd like to say something about campaign contributions. i'm an independent and i think
that needs overhauling, too. it just takes way too much money to mount a successful campaign, and that's why you only see the media money control candidates on tv, on the national stage during debate which should be republics and democrats. bernie mounted a good campaign this last cycle in 2016. i'm not a bernie independent. i'm-- i consider myself a member of the constitution party. at the roll cassel -- he just couldn't get money. thanks to c-span we get to see those people but they never get on the national stage. so, we need -- the republican and democrat nominees need vast amounts of money so the taste of victory is so sweet that the supporters of the candidates will yield to temptation to take excessive contributions. >> host: got your point. >> guest: i'm pushing resistance is futile, which came out yesterday and is a fun book -- steve issuing have to read in trump we trust because most
people believe it. you are absolutely -- you'll be happy to hear that absolutely completely 100% wrong. that money buys elects. unfortunately the campaign consultants and media persuaded the politics they need money. again, donald trump spends less money than probably anyone since the lbj era. going back to who knows. to win the white house. i always knew it if a politician came along and pushed popular ideas, that would work. no one watches campaign ads anymore. its funds the media up and funds these rich campaign consultants who are totally loaded. i won't go into too much office this but cite one example of these schuster campaigns. in my home state of connecticut, why do we have semi retards senator? we had a fantastic guy who could have run, rob simmons, sort of perfect for connecticut.
he went to yale, in the nave ya. but campaign consult tenants run the wrestling lady twice because she is really and if they can rip her off for money, line their pockets, their kids' college tuition is paid for and i don't blame the candidates. they have consultants saying you can win this race. they just did it to froeser fries in wyoming. money doesn't win races and as soon as politicians figure thought air being lied to and the doctor knows are being lied and it's pop layer idea that money wins and -- sanders spend more money than trump. it's popular ideas. >> host: i wonder how you feel but linda mcmahan has head of the small business administration. >> guest: probably fine at that. i'm-- we are not minnesota. they were never going to go for
the wrestling lady and they weren't. answer the picked her i was fine. but rob simmons was perfect for connecticut. he hadden -- overturned a democrat in an upstate district. i won't go into him but he was perfect, perfect, perfect. that would asset voted for. he could have won. he had everything except money. and the campaign consultants say, friending him and why they -- forget him. they found out she had another bank account? it's outrageous how many seats looks have lost because the listen to shyster campaign consultants. they get john racy in west. a wonderful, wonderful man. they were not going to vote for man in west virginia who lives in palm beach. they weren't going to do it but the campaign consult stands you can win, just write it another check. >> host: five minutes lefts.
mike, highland, new york, republican. go ahead. >> caller: himself how are you doing? >> host: doing well. you're on with ann coulter. >> c-span rocks and i have a great -- if the he great soar very sander leaves, my choice to relaysmer is ann coulter. >> guest: i hope she never leaves their job would you take that job. >> guest: i wanted to do it without pay -- >> for donald trump. >> guest: hope wanted me to do it and i said the only way would be i could do it for one month, not officially, to show how it's done. i love that sarah huckabee sanders. >> host: what needs to be done different. >> guest: more like sarah huckabee sander but i think what has happened -- i'm very sorry for those who have job and can't tune in every afternoon could watch these press conference. they're fantastic. it's become a game for the press. who can be more shocking and rude and bring up -- who is
going to be featured on the evening program ask has nothing to do with getting us? deserve to have sarah huckabee sanders be rude back and she is. almost have two separate briefings where you would have the poll sir person for those who actually okay pour -- care pout bowl si she will answer questions in this room forks showboating members of the press that's very huckabee sanders because it's fun tv. >> host: jerry, independent. >> caller: good morning, i hear but the fake news. all of the fake news and there's a simple answer, a simple solution to fake news. that's reinstatement of the fairness doctrine. if it was reinstated the first one to go would be msnb dr. and fox news. they're not but pure propaganda. you can figure boat your fake news if you re-instate the
fairness doctrine. >> guest: unfortunately somebody -- a lot of these rules and laws sound great but someone had toes a mr. the fairness doctrine and that is the government. didn't really quite work out as planned. i do think we are facing a crisis in free speech right now. the left has control of the mainstream media. hollywood, wall street. silicon valley. the schools. k through 12, in the universities. the one place you go to get the fact are tiny little corners of the internet. and what are they doing? owl the social media company us, no -- if i war advising the resistance i'd say you have to shut down little gamer gate buoys on twitter because that's a huge threat. >> host: how do you feel but fox news? "the wall street journal" editorar board, the "washington times" sunny don't consume them. i'm nor of an msnbc gal because i'm a hate-watcher but if could
just conclude what needs to be done, just we need to apply the fir amendment to these social media companies like twitter, facebook, google, because it is a public square. and there is precedent for that and it's got to be done. that is really terrifying and -- talk but chilling speech. when they're just throwing people off right and left. i wrote in treason about joe mccarthy. i know quite a bit about that era. the slanders of mccarthy were slanders and false but everything that liberals fanta size she was doing is being done now. we're throwing you off twitter because you once are -- or out of the white house because you went to a meeting with someone who said something online and he published someone on the same web page which we find offensive. such a guilt by association. never seen anything like it in my lifetime jojo omar, north carolina, democrat good morning. omar, are you with us this
morning? >> how are you doing this morning? >> host: go ahead. >> caller: i make comment for miss coulter because she said drain the swamp. at least -- been kicked out of -- [inaudible] -- so many people she say drain the swamp. he brought the swamp to the white house and then she say build the wall. if we need be the wall -- [inaudible] killing all these people, one -- [inaudible] illegal immigrant and put that on tv, all there was -- all these white people killing people. -- [inaudible] >> host: got your point. >> guest: well, as long as omar wants to build a wall to keep out all the white people i think he should apply for a job with
"the new york times." that's my advice to you, omar. they pay very well. >> host: what about his thoughts on the swamp. >> guest: obviously omar doesn't follow me on twitter. i've been quite critical of trump for many of his swamp hires. more upset about the goldman saks people that -- but i can't disagree with that. i think -- if i had been trump i would have hired smart people who know something about politics and supported my agenda. but he chose not to. so, you're going to have some problems. >> host: the book, resistance i futile how the trump hating left lost its collective mind. the author, ann coulter, always appreciate your time. >> guest: thank you. >> booktive visited capitol hill. >> i'm actually right now reading a book by harvard professor but the roberts court.
but i haven't finish that yet. the book i just finished is actually surprisingly good book about the 1968 election and i -- that was any coming out election. i mean, i got very involved in the '68 election with gene mccarthy and bobby kennedy, hubert hmm fry. a heartbreaking year with the assassination office martin luther king jr. and bobby kennedy, and lawrence o'donnell has done an extraordinary job of recounting that very dramatic, i would say pivotal year in american politics. with his book, called "playing with fire" and i really recommend it if you want to understand what happened in the n1968. especially politically. great book. another book also 50 years later, about 196, called hue 1968. this is the story in graphic detail of the tet offensive and n february of 1968, but the
battle for hue, the city of hue, which was a peaceful, beautiful, architecturally stunning city that was it her and completely destroyed in the tet offensive, and unlike other battles in south vietnam, the battle of hue lasted months and this book is a little bit different. not your classic antiwar book. focuses on the bravery and the actions of our marines and our army in trying to fight back and win back the city of hue, and very dramatic, and tells it prom both side, the viet cong and the south vietnamese side. and gives how the united states got the vietnam so wrong ask the battle of hue is very systemic of the problems we had in vietnam at the time and the complete denial of what was
happening, by william west westmoreland, and another book considering reading, the socionath next door. working with people who are almost universally seen as charming, who have no moral compass no sense of right or wrong and no empathy for other people and tend to be extremely narcissistic. i don't know why but this book seemed to be relevant, and i recommend it. i took up a new mystery writer, jonesbo and i want to read everything the has written ask this called "the first. " if you like complex characters, not your normal heroes, very flawed, sort of main character who nonetheless solves crimes. this is the writer and it's very complex writing, and a joy to
read. jo nesbo. a book called standing at armageddon. this documents the period of time with progressive reforms and history well worth knowing, informs us but a movements today. a little dry in its prose, and not as many -- as the main characters in the progressive era but a good.com pendism to understand the era. another mystery writer i recommend is a canadian writer, louise penny. a main character ar'mond and the samesetting, small canadian town and it's a really great writing, and she has get a great flair
for mysteries mysteries and character development, and it's -- once you get into it you want treats all her books and i read all of her books this last year. liabilities them that much and going to do the simple with jo nesbo. finished a marge political biography by robert dollic who wrote a book called the unfin heed life of john f. kennedy and wrote a one biography of fdr. he puts him at one on the top three best american presidents like washington ask lincoln. no president has faces the dill lamp ma roosevelt did in both having to respond to the worst economic cataclysm in american history and then a sneak attack on pearl harbor and having to win over four years a two-front war. one in the pacific and one in the atlantic, no one has faced
that kind of challenge. roosevelt did it with great skill, was heroic figure, both in his personal life and his political life, and reshaped america. certainly one of my hero. so if you want a good one of volume, this is a recent updated version of who franklin delano roosevelt was, and very much worth reading. this book called the unwinding by george packer i recommend 'omiami who want to understand the economic unsettlement that produced donald trump. why were so many mid-west, rust belt, industrialized cities of the past -- why were they so upset? he hollowing out, the impact on human lives. the extraordinary stress caused by the loss of a job and neck dislocation is brilliantly
recounted in this book, the unwinding and highlights number of places, including youngstown, ohio, for example, and you can't not read this book and not understand the forces, the economic forces, that led to political forces that led to the election outcome of 2016. i really recommend this book. this book called "this gulf afire" is the story of the earthquake and tsunami that hit lisbon, portal. a lot of people forththis period of history. in the 18th century, and there was an earthquake that devastated lisbon and then wait followed by a tsunami from the met mediterranean that destroyed the rest of the city and this is the account of that great event by mark molesky. well done, a piece of history
overlooked but it's worth reminding ourselves that this kind of disaster obviously can change the course of human history and certainly in our own lifetime we saw the impact of both earthquakes and tsunamis in the asia-pacific region. this book called "a gentleman in moscow" was one of my favorite novels read in the last year. it's brilliant. it's the story of a man, a noble man, very cultured, who was condemned by a soviet court in the early part of the soviet union, 1920s to spend the rest of his life in exile in a hotel in moscow, and this is the story of all of those decades of what happens to him, and how he lives his life, and it is just a joy to read. i'm now in the midst of reading the rules of civility, his other
become but this a gem and i think it's going to go down in fictional history as one of the best pieces of modern fiction in a long time. if there is a book about the war in the pacific, world war 2, that is not only approachable but i think brilliant and could i not put it down and it's a trilogy, part of a trilogy , the conquering tide and this -- he takeses through pearl harbor, through midway, the most decisive battle of the pacific in terms of turning the war, and then 42 to 44, the island hopping campaign from godle can national -- goads guadalcanal to
okinawa. gordonwood, written about the american revolution, wrote a book called friends united about the friendship of john adams and thomas jefferson. one of most famous pairings in american histories. very close in paris together as dignitaries, ambassadors -- early burgeoning united states, colonial united states, and then of course became rivals for the presidency, ran against each other, got very bitter, and the ellipse of 1800 and didn't talk or communicate for a number of years. then they resumed their correspondence through the enter session of benjamin rush, a physician and founder of america. and that blossomed into an enduring friendship until they dade. they both died on july 4, 1826. within hours of each other. one of the great, great
coincidences in american history, and this is that story. and it's really a joy to read. and there are lot of tidbits about their personalities and what made them tick and both beings a michelle figures and both having slaws. gordon woods does a great job of describe egg both. the final bike want to highlight -- call the three lives of james mad disson, and this is the -- mad disson and this is james madison's evolution as a political figure and he was a very different kind of man than he began in the revolutionary period and definitely his role in the constitution. people think of james madison as a small government, we don't want that big federal government encroaching. when he was writing the station and when he defended it in the federalist papers he wanted the congress of the united states to have a veto over state legislative legislation, can you
imagine that? he actually favored a strong -- much stronger central government, and was only later when we actually started to have a stronger central government, once the constitution was implemented, the fell back on the jefferson point of jew. he was a strong ally and went even further than alexander hamilton in his philosophy of government. so great read. great book. well done. and finally, can't end the year without recommending walter isaacson's biography of the life of da vinci. great book, fascinating work, we like to think of da vinci has this towering figure in art and sculpture but what is interesting was he got bored and would pick up projects and end them and not finish them, and he left behind a lot of unfinished products which must have
frustrate evident hid cline client tell but he didn't care. an intel electric of -- intellect of -- he was curious but everything and that is a biography that is a must on your list. have to read the biography of da vinci. that was my year. >> booktv want foot know what your reading. send it your reading list at book tv on twitter, citizen gram or facebook. -- instagram or facebook. book tv, television for serious readers. >> you're watching booktv. on c-span2. television for serious readers. here's tonight's primetime lineup. at 7:00 p.m. eastern, fox news host greg gutfeld offer his is take on top news store has has covered. than at 8:30. the law professor reports on hate in america. and offer his thoughts on how to
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had a hard time finding a job and was still part of the wetbrook foundation so i was training, and i somehow or another convinced my parents to help me pay for a world cup, and i remember take taking a good look at team usa, the u.s.a. fencing team and it wasn't diverse enough and i didn't see someone who looked like me. and then even with at the women's sabre team, never been a woman of color on the team before. i was going against what everybody around me was telling me. i was 23 when i went to my first international competition. i had no world ranking. had no national ranking. i had never had a senior competition before i graduate from college. so, that there were a lot 0 naysayers telling me what was impossible. that an olympic team wasn't in my future because i had never been on a cadet or junior team,
that i don't have the tactical training or skills to ever make a national team or qualify for an olympic team. so a lot of i feel like my journey as an athlete is kind of about challenging what the people around me think about me and i feel like society tries to put you in a box. even within the fencing community, theirs this idea that people who excel as kids are thought of as olympic hopefuls and who don't over a spot on cadet and junior teams, they won't make it. they'll fall if because they don't have the skill set to make it. and there's also that layer of -- i don't know exactly what to call it, but to be different in a sport that is predominantly who it is difficult. pushback in you wanting to occupy that space.
so on the national team there was lot of commentary around the team that never included me, even while i was on the team. i was seen more as a placeholder than anything else. and there is almost this like hopeful rhetoric that somehow i would not qualify the next year. so imagine having to carry that baggage every single competition, every single year, and compete. and i think that a lot of athletes of color who are in similar situations as i was, experience that, where you feel that the pressure to be exceptional in order to be accepted. >> you can watch this and other programs online at book of there.org. -- booktv.org. >> good morning, everyone. >> good morning. >> i'll fuss with this nil get it right. you're tall enough.