tv Call-in with Doris Kearns Goodwin Leadership in Turbulent Times CSPAN September 1, 2018 11:23pm-11:48pm EDT
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and then he said it with those private people so let's undo thh people with that defense of move politics. >>host: doris kearns goodwin is our guest.he caller: oood da you are on the air. >> caller: thank you for taking my call. ii recall i think madison had we will have the affluent people p, and good times in the republicyv with people we will not always we have a times.e her. and i think that goes back to the structure of the government with the checks and balances.
and really the people and how we come together. by we have a system where we are not brought together by politicd but separated even more. so what i hope is mr. madison and mr. jefferson that this imperfect intention will make people realize that my worst enemy is my neighbor it isn't the left or the right but the rc people who want to destroy my- republic and our union. thinkoue >> i understand what you say.tet one of the things teddy roosevelt said if the people oft the different sections across the country couldn't see other o people's point of view but that is what you need these people to do to go across party lines that
we have had so many divisions these last fewju years whether republicans or democrats as if the other side has nothing thati they have spots ability right now to think of our country itil is always bottom-up like the hetislavery movement civilts mot movement forights now is the time to band together what we want from our leaderspol and what we want from our political system? about c what do we do about campaignas r finance? can do any problem created by man can be solved by man.hated by man cn be solved by man. i'm glad you brought that up. whost: identity politics andm,h tribalism have you ever had. where we are not in identitye he politics?? >> i think when we come togetheo
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remembered over time just like i did. civil so with the civil rights act to, break the filibuster there onlyy two names abraham lincoln.how ce how can you forget? [laughter] >> the pulitzer prize winner the 1985.u? >> you disappear when you write a book?? >> it takes so long. i took me longer to write about world war ii that it took theen time to be fought. m it's not like i'm writing every day but i'm reading ands researching and the diaries ii love the lov gossip to. >> you like the book toto her?md
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team. >> caller: i'm just wondering if she's interested to the war r of independence and with thenven constitutional convention?eader. one of the best examples of u leadership to make i wish i wish i knew more about georgege l washington. not only how he let up during the revolution but the letters he that he writes on his way to hit inauguration worrying if he has the strength to take us through this. lov and we were very, very lucky to have him as president.. mo tim he is a guy like to know more in
about. it's g >>host: who is the next an ex-president you really want to take on?ovies for >> that would take a long time.d and i i got involved with the lincoln movie so a friend said s we had a little movie company.om but it won't take ten yearst bo hopefully. >> the most recent book guest leadership in turbulent times. >> thank you so much as always.