tv House Speaker Paul Ryan Interview with Wis Politics President CSPAN September 14, 2018 8:45am-9:19am EDT
>> what does it mean to be american? at this year's studentcam competition question. we're asking middle and high school students to answer it by producing a short documentary about a constitutional right, national characteristic, or historic event and explain how it defines the american experience. we're awarding $100,000 in total cash prizes including a grand prize of $5000. this year's deadline is january 20, 2019. for more information go to our website, studentcam.org. >> at u.s. capitol earlier this week house speaker paul ryan sat down for an interview with wiz politics.com president jeff mayers, the wisconsin public and talked with republican agenda and trade policy. yells reflected on his tenure speaker of the house and his plans after he retires from
congress in january. [applause] >> come on, jeff, over here. good to see all. i see a lot of wisconsinites here, very cool. welcome to the rayburn. >> is a beautiful room. thanks for having us. >> my pleasure. >> this is by the last time drivable interview as speakers are you getting kind of misty eyed, right? >> does it show? >> you look way too happy, way too happy. you are a short timer. >> i guess so. i've 20 years saw, yeah, we're in the fourth quarter. >> are you one of the guys speedy by the way, was that not the best fourth-quarter you've ever seen? >> okay. we'll have a half hour, some going to just jump right into
it, okay? the president signed an executive order today to have additional sanctions against those who interfere in elections. there's some bipartisan criticism of that that it does go far enough. i would just ask you, are you confident about election security in wisconsin, in janesville, in milwaukee? are you confident it's going to occur or are you worried? >> i am confident that i have no reason to lose faith in her system. i feel good about it. first of all, our systems in wisconsin are good. we've upgraded him since -- back in 2000. i think the president and i got a brief on the ticket order. i think the right to do it, the right to put penalties and sanctions of anybody tries to metal. what you worry about is where some of the criticism comes from both sides or from other corners is are you federalizing too much? remember this is something that
states and localities are in charge of. we want to make sure with technological standards and minimums. but you do want to federalize everything and that's what this is a delicate balance and that's why the administration is right to say we are watching, , we recorded and will be penalizing if someone tries to mess with our election security so that's why think we see it coming. we know that our malevolent factors that are trying to meddle in our elections. we saw at the last time around. i sent a letter with mitch mcconnell, , antipollution chuck schumer two secretaries of state in the last election cycle same headset, , beware. we have had two more years for our election officials to prepare for such a thing. >> are you happy with -- >> better prepared. >> are you happy with how social media are trying to govern themselves in this regard or do you think they need a push from you guys? >> i don't know the answer. it's too soon to say. that's what we've been having here. >> we just tardy hearings about a week ago on this.
congress has a lot more to learn about the subject. >> okay. let's talk about tax reform. that may be your legacy item. do you think so? >> absolutely. it's one of the thing i came in to do when i first arrived. what i worked on for 18 years on the ways and means committee and something i've been working on since before i was a member of congress. i have long, long, long believed we need to overhaul the u.s. taxes if we're going to get faster economic growth, globally competitive. we did that and it's exactly what we're hoping would happen is happening much faster economic growth, has to wage growth come jobless rate 49 euros low, the most latino unemployment rate in the history. we had great wage statistics the other day and more importantly internationally there was no reason not to be an american company anymore because of our tax laws and were getting a lot of repatriation of funds come into this country and rebuilding
and that's one of the reasons why manufacturing is seen an enormous surge in growth and in capital expensing. so i feel very good about it and it's one of things i spent my entire group were given. >> you is coming. the cbo says trillion dollars speedy they said revenues are up. revenues are hitting near the 50 year-revenues are up. the problem is a predictable one. it is spending, and so this cbo report didn't surprise me in the least because again they actually said revenues are up a little faster because of growth. interest rates because the fed is normalizing is clearly a factor, but it's what i've been saying for ever in the day, entitlements. we actually spend, discretion is been as low that was in 2010, so we've actually held the line on discretionary spending. it's entitlements. it is baby boomers retirement, a country not prepared for it, it's held inflation and its of the entitlement programs.
the house passed the biggest entitlement reform bill that congress has ever considered. unfortunately that bill not pass the senate so that is the unfinished business. >> cbo cited defense spending as a number one driver on the cost side. >> we are still below where we were eight years ago on defense and i would strongly argue that defense is number one priority of the federal government. it's our number one responsibility and we had a serious readiness crisis. it had to be attended to. where in the midst of negotiating our second appropriation bill which rebuilds the military. the issue is entitlement. it always has been and it always will be into we fix entitlements. >> okay, but so corporate tax receipts go down and that kind of ads to this growing gap. you get be had with $1 trillion deficit. >> of course that but we knew was coming. you want me to say the same thing all over again? >> how do you justify, someday
speedy let me say it this way. the argument is corporate receipts are down. we just dropped the rate to 21% from 35%. 35%. of course you are going to see in the interim i drop but what we are also going to see our u.s. corporations are going to stay use cooperation. we're going to see u.s. corporations are going to invest in the united states, see more jobs, more productivity. more. we are already seeing that. as a result of more people going to work, wages going up, more taxes are coming in so that's why revenues are up. they may not be up among the secord for this quarter or the next quarter because they're at 21% of the of the economic activity that that produce, the growth that is producing, the higher wages, the people coming out of poverty nothing taxes, that's really good. that's what this is producing so let's keep our eye on the ball which is we need to get control of our entitlement programs.
the good news in that story is good reforms can mean that we can better fulfill the mission of these important programs, health and retirement security, without bankrupting the country. that's why the kinds of foreign you been talking about so necessary. >> but that would depend upon, the senate didn't even agree with you. that would depend upon having even broader control of congress than you've had. >> we fail to pass our budget, our entitlement reform bill on health care by one vote in the senate, that's correct. >> so i guess what are the prospects of doing that in? >> i think election have to determine that based on water vote count in the center we keep the house majority which i think will continue make sure you have a big enough the majority in the senate to be able to pass healthcare reform. >> but do people in janesville, the people in wisconsin, is that what you want? do they really want their benefits taken away or
curtailed? >> did i just say that? >> no but speech i think they want to see that we have medicare on a path of solvency. i don't think you want to see 200 200 make people get added to medicare to accelerate its bankruptcy which what a lot of people running for. if we take a look at our proposals it would've lowered health to bring this, it still would've preserved pre-existing conditions. it would've been done more to give people more choices. we are down to one or two choices and individual market. because i think our intimate of progress we met on health care since that bill didn't ask and we got rid of the individual mandates so we're not forcing people to buy something they don't want, scott is getting a waiver, 1332 waiver for risk pool. our risk pool works really well in wisconsin. you probably have written about it, the high risk works really well in wisconsin a captive with
pre-existing a formal coverage and as result it dramatically lowered the primus for primus y else in wisconsin. 90% of wisconsinites. we're putting that back in place now and with federal funding. so you will see i think a better stabilize health insurance market in wisconsin as result of the governors new improved labor to restart response which is something went wanted to get done in lawton earlier but inside the code is getting a whiff did it because that one of his life in wisconsin and that's what wisconsinites want to see. >> in the way doesn't that cement the aca as being around? >> i think what it does is, what's happening with the experience for the aca in wisconsin is so many counties down to one or two plans to choose from, and escalating premiums or if we can go back to the pre-aca situation where we had a risk pool so that people with pre-existing conditions could get affordable coverage like we had, then the rest of
the individual market, more insurers will come to the workplace, more choices, or competition they can help bring prices down. that is what we had before the aca and i think going to the way the route, we have association health plans coming on line now because of the administration. that's going to help -- the best prime rib in the world by their -- >> that's a commercial. >> that will help them by the health insurance to spread risk and get better coverage. circa think happening in healthcare because we have moved toward more of an incremental approach from approving the situation because we didn't get the big bill passed in the senate. >> but these big ideas seem really difficult. if they couldn't happen in these two years, how are they going to happen? >> like i said where actually getting things done. the risk pools are having. the association health plans i
just described -- >> but the really big ideas -- >> that's why the senate is going to need a few more votes. >> do you think that can have? >> technically just one. >> do you think that will happen? >> absolutely. >> okay. so before we go to the audience, i have to ask about you. >> what about me. >> with what the heck are you going to do? >> i don't know. i have to wait until i'm done. the way i've always approach this because i am still here speaker, i need to just wait until i'm finished and then spend time figuring out the i'm going to spend plenty of time. i i know going to hunt a lot. we're going to go to granite peak on the weekends, just do our thing and the going, i don't know i think about volleyball but i'm going to be a volleyball coach. i'm going to do those things and then spend time to get out but have with intelligent in my own mind in order to even look at those things. >> did you have any regrets about this has taken place.
>> with no pick him actually really, really at peace with things. i wasn't looking for this job but i'm really honored to have had this job. i'm honored to have been able to get our team to put together an agenda to take it to the country, then to a unified governments and the opportunity to put this agenda in place. we have passed 800 -- what is it, 853 bills, a little more than that. it's about 860 pills in the house this session. that is an incredible pace. we have seen that kind of pace in the get-go since before bush one next it with pass our agenda. the senate actually, they stayed in august and they're getting a lot done. we're getting so much things done. we cut taxes from done. we got regularly, we rebuild the military, we got career technical education done, we got the poverty stuff, property opportune -- opportunity zones.
where this close of opioids, this infrastructure built. so i really feel like we've had an enormously productive legislature pick it's making an enormous positive difference in peoples lives which is why we have these jobs. and this face and stage of my life and family it's the perfect time to do what i'm doing. >> when you just went to all that i just find it that you would divorce yourself from politics and policy. >> i want divorce myself from politics and policy. i'm just not going to be in congress anymore. i don't know exactly what that will be but you can't complete divorce yourself because i'm a cause guy. i'm going to do work on the causes i care about in some capacity that we will figure that out come next year. >> what are you not going to miss? >> what am i not going to miss? >> from this place. >> press event in the rayburn room. just messing with you. if you like to we've known each other a long, long time. what am i i not going to miss? really the travel and the
schedule. i've been this week in amarillo, houston, dallas, chicago, and janesville and then i'll be in d.c. and south bend for get back home sunday. so i won't miss the travel. i'm going a lot. i added up at spring break, i'm on the road since i got this job 12 12 weeks more per year on average than i was as a busy congressman, so that's what i'm not going to miss. i'm not going to miss the constant travel. .. >> i've brn around here a
while and again, what i learned-- first of all, i never wanted the job in the first place. i think that kind of helped me. i'm the first guy in decades to have gone from just being a committee chair to jumping over to this job. most people kind of go up like the leadership route which is never something i wanted to do. and i think that different perspective helped me a lot. and getting our members to spend basically a year, 2015 to assemble an agenda that we would agree to assemble and run on and hold ourselves accountable to executing it. that organizing theory is how we make this place work really well because when you have fits or starts or you'd have different factions within the g.o.p. coalition-- >> and different factions. it's a coalition government. i tell people i run the coalition government without the benefit of a parliamentary system.
it helps to go back, this is not the plan we agreed on. this is not what we said we'd be doing here. this is where we're going. because we got pre agreement from members that our vision and our agenda would be x, y and z and i was able to focus them when they wanted a, b and c and that's helped quite a bit for this place. >> a plan helps. >> let's go to the audience for questions. i don't know how many minutes we have left, but we'll try to fit some in. tim has a question here and are you going to give him the mic? >> what's connor doing now? >> picked up by-- >> thank you. >> tell him we're praying for him. >> i appreciate that. >> and as the president tax back and forth on trade and a lot of work to be done on it. what advice would you give to companies like harley davidson and waka schlwakashaw metal?
. i tell people in wisconsin to hold on, object -- be patient and there's a landing point. i'm not a fan of tariffs, that's not what i think is -- i don't like tariffs. i think the idea though to get better agreements with our allies, north america and europe, and those conversations are ongoing and they've already yielded some good results, get a good agreement with our allies that fit the 21st century and we did need new agreements for the 21st century and get those in hand and get those done and then rally the developed world to join us to go confront china, so that to get china to play by the rules. because china steals european electrical property rights just like american intellectual property rights. they ship to us to the
canadians just like to us. and i think the idea and the strategy of, you know, it's hardball, it's tariffs, it's tough talk, but if it results in good agreements with our allies and a unified developed world front to go get china to play by the rules then that's a pretty good darn outcome. i would simply say be patient for that. >> saying to farmers, be patient? you know, because sometimes it's hard-- >> i've talked to a lot of farmers. i was talking to a buddy of mine who is a corn and bean farmer back home, and he's actually -- he was the one who said to me, i'm going to be patient. i think what he's trying to do is a good deal at the end of the day. i was talking to some grain, elevator guys the other day in clinton, wisconsin. i was in clinton about a week ago talking to the guy who has a grain elevator there. they don't like the soy bean back and forth, but, they like the end-game and they like the fact that the president's
trying to get a fair deal at the end of the day for the country. >> okay. raise your hands if you have another question, we'll call on you. no press, but-- go ahead, sir. the mic is right there. say who you are, place. >> mike. recently representative introduced a bipartisan housing and finance reform bill. >> the act? >> yeah, i'd like your comments on that and whether you think it's going to make it through the house. >> i like the path act, i'm a fan of jeff's bill on gse's. jeff got so focused in his committee on flood insurance reauthorization and on the rewrite of dodd-frank. so the path act just, they just ran out of time and space. and it takes a long time to get concensus on what you spin the gse's off and i think it's going to carry over to the next
session. >> this is a shy group? >> there you go. go ahead. >> saw something the other day about maybe making the tax cuts and tax reform permanent. >> yeah, yeah, that's coming up last week of the month. ways and means is-- help me -- when is the markup in some in thank you, bob. i know that markup was any day now. we've had scheduling issues lately so ways and means marking it up tomorrow, we are going to have it on the floor. we're not on the floor next week, week after next. to make the individual provisions permanent. >> and so, again, given that cbo, we can aboard that? >> you think the academy could use a big huge tax increase? i don't know if your businesses or-- if we were to let the tax increases occur, then we would
be taking the small business pass-through tax rate up to 44.6 while corporations are 21. that would be devastating to this economy. so, absolutely, we want to make those permanent. >> is that going to-- we are calling the senate to agree? >> hopefully. i hope so. it's not in reconciliation so we'll see. >> go ahead. >> is this a health care hospital question? >> it could be. >> it could be. >> and maybe the senator in western wisconsin. >> maybe i should go back to-- >> how are you been? i haven't seen you in a while. >> i'm retired. >> you two could have a party. >> first i want to thank you, you've had a great run and a wonderful lot of help for us at the marshall clinic and we appreciate all the stuff that you've done. but so what's your advice for--
we picked up 30, almost 40,000 people on the federal exchange. a lot of people who were never covered before so what's your advice to the health industry, especially most of us working in the rural parts of the state? >> obviously, i wish our bill could have become law because i think it would have been so much better. people get by with the tax credit and the health insurance of their choosing and we could have had risk pools nationwide to make sure that people with pre conditions can get disease management, affordable coverage wherever they want, freeing up the health insurance markets to be far more competitive for everybody else so they can get lower rates. that is the goal here and i believe that can be attained. we didn't get the big passed like we just discussed, but insurance marshall in wisconsin, i think that getting the 332 waiver for wisconsin to set risk pools back up, getting short duration plans, getting
association health plans in place, i mean, gosh, just the tavern league, the realtors, restauranteurs, right then and there, there are so many people who are now in the individual market, but work for small businesses, that will have a chance at getting much more comprehensive affordable health insurance because of those three reforms right there. so, i think we are going to have-- we have better days ahead. it could be even better if we could get a bigger bill passed, but i think we've got better days coming ahead. >> so, we've got about five minutes. >> foreign policy question perhaps? >> more of an institutional leadership question. my name is tony carroll and-- >> quite the speech. >> and i can't help, but think about the death of john mccain and decline of regular order in the senator and i came to this town in 1986 and worked for loretta miller-- director of the peace corps.
>> and the collegiality was evident at that time and seems to have broken down. i think john mccain's last talking about the order. and talk about what you're leaving. >> that's a good question. i worry that worry that we're seeing a deinstitutionalization rit large not just in america, but the world. and you can cite a lot of things. this isn't just one person, it's society, culture, it's the internet, it's the 21st century. i think the tribalism that has occurred has occurred for a handful of reasons, but i think one of the harder aspects of this is, 21st century technology has proven that tribalism and identity politics is effective. more to the point, which is even worse.
people make money off of it. so, that to me-- i'm a john kemp guy, and i believe-- john was a friend of mine. i'm more of a kemp-reagan guy. what i mean when i say that aspirational inclusive politics, which tries to unify. but internet, money has proven identity politics has worked, it's morally wrong, but politically effective. we used to think it's a saul walensky and it's all over the place. i'm trying to get the health care done -- what i want to
spend time thinking with about, how do you make inclusive aspirational politics, pre market conservative. things i believe in, how do you make it strategically valuable that this is the winning thing and this is how you should conduct campaigns and wins elections. you literally have to figure out how to beat tribalism, not just morally right, but strategically the right thing to do and we have a ways to go on that. i just did a thing or at aei and he wrote a great book on just this. even liberals should-- i know they don't think of goldberg of what they should read, people on the left should read it, too. it's telling. >> okay, this isn't going to happen this year. >> no, you're asking me-- what, the next 20 days or something like that? no, no, it's a bigger question. >> this seems to be more negative than ever before. >> look it, i'm a catholic, look what's going on.
the deinstitutionalization of critical core institutions of civil society are under duress right now, not just government. and so as people, we have to do more on our own with our families and our communities and our churches and our governments and every other institutions to build up those institutions to teach how important these institutions are. and as a conservative, i believe we need to do more to free up space for civil society, for civil society to reinsert itself in the rightful place. in the big expensive place between ourselves and our government, which is where we lead our lives. go to janesville. row tearions, the optimists, the golden key guys, all the groups, civil society, the churches. these things are shrinking. they're deinstitutionalizing and we need to do more as a society and culture to breathe
life back into these things. i'm not trying to make this a left-right thing. it really isn't. one of the things is as a limited government conservative, i want to make sure that i preserve that space, so that government doesn't try and encroach upon it and push it out and deinstitutionalize it. we need to stand up as a conservative, to stand up for what we believe in and civil in a debate. and that identity tribalism is an affront to that. how is that? >> well, that's a good place to end on a lofty ideal. so, i thank you for being part of this, for being part of the politics events all these years. >> it's been great. >> you can always get into an event free, if you just call up. >> right, thank you, i appreciate it. [applause]
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