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jewish community center by arizona public media. the arizona daily star, and the arizona republic. tonight moderator is christopher conover. >> good evening and welcome to two nights debate. i'm the bloke reporter here at arizona public media and there is nothing like election season. tonight we will spend an hour discussing the concerns of the people of the second congressional district in arizona with the two women vying to represent the district in the u.s. house. let's get right to it. please give a warm tucson welcome to the 2010 candidates for arizona second congressional district. democrat, ann kirkpatrick and republican, lea marquez peterson. [applause]
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>> thank you ladies for both of you are joining us here tonight.also, here on the stage of the host and coproducer of arizona 360, lorraine rivera and from the debate partners, steve goldstein of our sister station in phoenix, kjzz joe ferguson of arizona daily star and ron hansen. here are the rules for tonight. each candidate will get 1/92 opening statement and a one minute closing statement. in between, our panel of journalists will ask questions from the list lived appeared and the candidates have not seen yet. questions will be directed to one candidate that will have one minute to respond. the other candidate will have 30 seconds to rebut. if one of our journalists has a follow-up question, both candidates will have 45 seconds to respond. we will alternate who each gets a question. if they exceed the time we may
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give more time to the other candidate to balance so that the audience can hear from both candidates. a note to the live audience. we broadcast this live on t.v. radio and internet. any interruptions take away time from the candidates, that is who we all came to see. disruptive behavior will not be tolerated and may result in security asking you to leave the room. now, for opening statements. first, miss kirkpatrick. you have 90 seconds. >> i was born and raised on a mountain my dad ran a store and my mother a schoolteacher. after high school came to tucson to do my undergraduate work at university of arizona. after graduation, i taught school for a while here in tucson. then went to law school. at the university of arizona. while i was in law school,
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actually clerked for the county attorneys office. i was a law clerk for our current county attorney and i was also a law clerk for john -- before he was a judge. many of you know that he was killed in january 2011 in a shooting. i am honored to be here tonight with my opponent. we can answer questions and give our positions so you can be an informed voter. i have to tell you, everywhere i go in tucson, whether it be the grocery store where the gas station or just walking in the neighborhood, people expressed to me their concerns, fears and worries in the election. seniors are afraid they will lose medicare and social security. women are afraid they will lose their right to choose and --
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couples are afraid they will not have the right to marry. these issues will address tonight and i look forward to the panels questions. >> thank you so much. lea marquez peterson, you have 90 seconds. >> thank you it is so great to see friends and supporters this evening.i've been a small business owner in the community for several decades. in the present of tucson hispanic chamber for the last nine years. officers in tucson say douglas. my family has lived here for generations and i've lived here for over 40 years. i have grown up in the community, attending schools and i remember when -- was a two lane road. this is my home and i want to see political reform. i support term limits. i want to see no budget, no pay which means if washington does not pass a budget, they should not be paid. that is probably how your own family businesses operate also.
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i also want to tackle waste in government. people are tired of politics like ann who moved and she moved here to run in our community. she's not one of us. i would like to represent the community and be strong and i asked to have your support in this race. >> miss lea marquez peterson, thank you for your opening comments. now onto the questions. the first round will explore partisanship in the politically diverse district and the first question goes to miss kirkpatrick from arizona public media, lorraine rivera. >> miss kirkpatrick, political division plays a large role in elections in the district and independent voters often decide the district. how will you represent such a politically diverse district? >> miss kirkpatrick, you have one minute.
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>> my mother's family were republican ranchers and my debts family were democratic businessmen. two large families i would say it made for interesting, get-togethers because everybody had their political opinion. but, at the end of the day, we were all family. we were all arizonans, we were all americans. and i value that upbringing now more than ever. it has given me the temperament and experience to go to congress, to really get to know my colleagues. legislating is about building relationships and i'm able to do that.that is how you get things done. you find people, find out what their story is, regardless of party and find the common ground. i did a lot of legislation for veterans. that is really not a partisan issue. and there are many members of all parties who have served our country, our veterans and really care that veterans get the benefits they earned.
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>> thank you, miss marquez peterson you have 30 seconds to rebut. >> this my first time running for office. i've got a reputation in the community as a problem solver. i've been running one of the largest chambers of commerce in the state, our tucson hispanic chamber and working with whoever it will take to get the job done. whether it be democrat, republican or independent. i think many of the issues we are facing are not partisan. i think there issues that we can talk to others, we can collaborate, we can work closely to get things done and i'm focused on finding the very best solutions. >> thank you. our next question is from steve goldstein from kjzz in phoenix. this is for ms. marquez peterson. >> arizona's relationship is vital, had to think president trump history of the u.s. relationship with mexico overall and would you address
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him directly on anti-mexico rhetoric? >> it's interesting. even as the chamber president, had the opportunity to address the trumpet menstruation and key advisors on the relationship with mexico. i've not always agreed with the direction or comments he's made but i made sure to explain to him that perspective that i have as a tucson hispanic chamber president how important the relationship with mexico is. there are number one trading partner for the state of arizona. whether 110,000 jobs in arizona depend on trade with mexico. i have close relationships and have worked with governor ducey in the arizona mexico commission collaboratively with our partners in mexico and i will continue to bring that to president trump and the administration when elected to office. >> thank you. miss kirkpatrick, you have 30 seconds if you wish. >> it is so important that we have a relationship with mexico. one third of the economy in southern arizona comes from mexico. i visited with the mayor's of douglas, sierra vista, even republican business people.
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so they do not want a wall.a wall is not the answer. when a company has of immigration reform that protects dreamers and daca recipients but not a wall. >> thank you very much. our next question is from joe ferguson of the arizona daily star. this is for ms. kirkpatrick. >> miss kirkpatrick, in 2012 you are running and saying -- had not spent his life in the district that you had. now why shouldn't voters look at this is you being opportunist? >> right after the 2016 election, my daughter, who was in residency here at university medical center, gave birth to my second grandson one month early. and he had to be in the newborn icu. my daughter and her husband were able to spend time in the hospital. but that left me taking care of his 18 month old brother. i always said to people you know, running a competitive senate race pales in comparison to running after an 18 month
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old toddler. so we came down here to help her finish residency, help the family. i would go over every morning to help her get ready for work and get my other grandson off to preschool. and that is how we were here. i voted for the affordable care act. when @booktv voted for the deadly republican bill that would've kicked millions of people off of healthcare again, i just said, i cannot stand on the sidelines and watch this happen. i'm going to take her on. of course, she is not running anymore. and i have miss marquez peterson as my opponent.>> miss marquez peterson you 30 seconds if you like. >> is not opportunist. she is from four hours north of here in flagstaff to which our community to run an attempt to represent us. when in her past race she you're right she said someone had to have a lifetime of
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service in the community in order to truly represent. i have that lifetime of service pretty heavy lifting more than 40 years running the tucson hispanic chamber, raise my family here being a small business owner here and i think it makes a difference that we have someone who is running with the community at heart and i'm ready to represent my home in congress. >> thank you. our next question is from ron hansen from the arizona republic. we are halfway through the segment and this question goes to miss marquez peterson. >> miss marquez peterson. you have largely ignored requests for interviews leading up to election day. while as the serving hispanic chamber of commerce should made yourself available regularly. why the sudden change? >> i would not state that is a change. i think what i've done is been strategic about outreach and beyond tucson, focus on talking to voters in sierra vista and
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douglas and wilcox, green valley, and the district is very broad and i made myself very available to voters and want to talk about particular issues. the important issues i been talking some about with jobs in the economy, support for military, healthcare, border security and really, hearing the perspective so i can truly represent them when i'm elected to congress. >> thank you, ms. kirkpatrick, you 30 seconds if you like it. >> my opponent has not been accessible to the people in congressional district 2. during primary there were locked closed-door events be they would not let joe ferguson and to report on it. she has not met with the media. she is running very closed-door type campaign. just like martha mcsally and this is one of the problems why martha mcsally was so vulnerable in the district. because people wanted to see her. they wanted to have town hall, my opponents actually said she is not going to do any town hall. >> thank you, we now onto the next question. it will be for ms. kirkpatrick. this comes from arizona public
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media, lorraine rivera. >> ms. kirkpatrick you voted for nancy pelosi to be speaker of the house in each of your three prior congressional terms. she helped bankroll your campaign disciple. any democrats urging for change in the party leadership. will you support nancy pelosi for speaker of the house? >> the democrats are successful in taking back to houston where in the majority, we will be taking on really hefty legislation. that is what we did last time we were in the majority. and there was a large caucus, we had the progressives, when the blue dogs, we had the hispanic caucus, african-american caucus. women's caucus.we debated vigorously in the caucus room. but nancy pelosi was able to bring us to a consensus. on legislation that we could actually pass. she never took a bill to the floor when she did not have the votes to pass it. and no modern speaker before or since, has been able to do that. especially paul ryan, the
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current speaker. >> thank you. miss marques peterson you 30 seconds. >> i believe she will vote for nancy pelosi. she voted for 90 percent of time as she was in congress before. i believe if ann is elected we will see tax reform rollback, the economy, all of the great progress will go back. it will be a detrimental effect on southern arizona. >> thank you. the next question is from steve goldstein for miss marques peterson. >> as most congressional campaigns there is a lot of outside money and outside involvement. have you agreed with all the actions advertised on your behalf from outside supporters? >> absolutely not. i've not run for office before and i will tell you how surprising it is to see the nastiness and lies that can be put out in mailers. i can use when his example, this mailer was sent out by ann and nancy pelosi this is a took more than $50,000 and special interest group money. when in fact, ann had taken
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more than $3 million in special interest group money over her career as a politician. just the hypocrisy and the craziness that goes into political advertising. additional lies is that i would eliminate social security and medicare. it's actually not something i stand for. and i sure everybody that i would make sure that people receive what they were promised and what they paid into. >> thank you, ms. kirkpatrick, your 30 seconds. >> i'm running a positive campaign. now there are outside groups that may come in and run negative pieces against my opponent but that is not me. if it does not say i approved it, or i paid for it, it is not my ad. it's actually illegal for me to have anything to do with those outside ads that come in. i just want the viewer to know that and alyssa has my name on it, it is not my ad, we are
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running only a positive campaign. >> thank is not time for follow-up. joe ferguson from the arizona daily star. you have a follow-up. please indicate which candidate you're directing the question to first and both candidates will be given an opportunity to answer all follow questions you have 45 seconds for the answers.>> this question is for miss marques peterson. would you like donald trump to join you here on the campaign trail? >> i think have any present in the district would be an honor. i'm not requested his attendance in southern arizona. i'm running on my own regard. i think it is a matter of making sure that people understand my experience as a problem solver, taking initiatives and been involved in my community. i am on the board of sinners hospital, i am involved in visit tucson and serving in many different community boards because they truly care and love the community. i'm going to run my own regard and really be an independent voice in the district. >> thank you, ms. kirkpatrick, your 45 seconds. >> my opponent brought speaker volume 2 tucson.
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she will follow his agenda to a t. she is not independent. he has his agenda of privatizing social security. she has said that she would privatize social security. get rid of medicare. she does not support a woman's right to choose. those are the things that will happen if republicans stay in power. there privatize social security, cut medicare benefits and get rid of a woman's right to choose. those are the issues at stake. my opponent is not being truthful and forthright about where she stands. >> thank you. we are about to change subject. i would like to thank both candidates at this point for keeping to the times and also for the audience for being respectful. we now turn our attention to issues related to the most precious resource, water. the first question is from ron hansen, for ms. kirkpatrick. >> ms. kirkpatrick, which of the federal governments role or
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congress role in a drought contingency plan that serves multiple states in the colorado river watershed? >> we have a water caucus and is primarily in the western states. we had to find solutions for the west. but we also have a serious problem here congressional district to. i was in the valley recently there was a family of a story there that bought land with a home there they were from the midwest and did not think to ask about water, they got there, turned on the spigot and out came sand and mud. and that is because the water table there has been sucked out by these large foreign agriculture farms. we've got to address that problem. we've got to have hearings in congress about that. it affects so many people in the west. there is a solution. we can come out with a drought plan.
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that affects all of the western states. and addresses the lack of water in the colorado river. those are tough questions that we need to deal with. and we can do it. >> thank you, miss marques peterson. your 30 seconds if you like to request the role of the federal government i think is -- however, some of the very drastic conditions we are facing need to be a partnership between local jurisdictions and the federal government. one of the first things we can do is appoint a director of bureau of land management. it's an important function and an important person that can relate to the water situation and the crisis we are facing. i think decisions about water need to be made locally by local jurisdictions. many need to be at the table. >> thank you. our next question comes from lorraine rivera. this is for mrs. marques peterson. >> how do will you -- private land use and water conservation policy?
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>> i think it is truly about having a seat at the table. engaging in committees that react to the issues. in particular, images in the energy and commerce committee. i think that is my background and it suits very well. being able to provide perspective and an independent voice in congress on some of these very important issues is key. that is how we will get things done. >> thank you. ms. kirkpatrick. your 30 seconds. >> i was on transportation infrastructure committee and plan to be on the committee again. working in southern arizona to improve infrastructure and get funding for projects. working with mayor rothschild, the local mayors and in 2nd congressional district to improve the critical infrastructure which we need to do in order to improve the economy. it's so important that we have good roads, we reworking water system that we have good paying 21st century jobs and quality education for our children. those are all infrastructure projects. >> next question is to miss marques peterson. it comes from steve goldstein.
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>> miss marques peterson, coming back to something that ms. kirkpatrick has said, what would you do -- people from the midwest come out of state stepping in? >> you know, i talked to folks throughout the county including -- the developments, development companies, so many folks have different opinions there. i'm truly going to stand by the fact that we need local jurisdiction at the table. it then is to be a local solution. certainly federal government can provide support. but not stepan is a federal government to try and solve it for them. >> thank you. ms. kirkpatrick, my mistake that was supposed to go to, we will give you a full minute to answer that. [laughter] >> water is so critical. and i know that senator kyle and senator mccain working
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close with me to come up with a strategy for arizona. one thing we really need to do is have a statewide drought plan. we are in a drought but we need to work together also at the same blueprint to preserve the water. it includes things like more efficient water tanks, using graywater where we can. conservation measures, perhaps collecting rainwater. to garden with. there are so many things that we can do that really, we are not doing. it takes leadership. it takes leadership like senator mccain was providing to do that. and i plan to provide that leadership in arizona. and throughout the west.not only an congressional district
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2. >> thank you. our next question will be to you, ms. kirkpatrick. this comes from joe ferguson. >> ms. kirkpatrick, should congress step into local water decisions such as the approval of subdivision in service of several thousand homes if it threatens the properties like -- >> i used to sever the water commissions. one of the real concerns i had was approval of the subdivisions without actually looking at a water source for those subdivisions. it would really save the family a lot of problems. it has to be a joint effort. between the federal government and state government. working together to make sure that we have got checks and balances in place so people are not sold lander houses that do not have adequate water. i really feel for that family, they invested their entire life savings into the property. and now they cannot sell it because they do not have water source. >> thank you, ms. marquez peterson, 30 seconds if you would like it. >> this has been so top of mind as you are aware. the housing permit has not been
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pulled a long time but i think having discussion, the local and state weigh in on the determination of the subdivision can be approved is key. i think again, the federal government can provide guidelines but decision should meet at the local and state level. >> thank you. we have a follow-up question from ron hansen with arizona republic. let us know he would like to ask. >> lee marques peterson. the science of climate change, do you believe in and if so, what are you willing to do to act on that body of knowledge from climate scientists? >> i think it is a delicate balance between the growing of a company and environmental regulations that are put in place and not having them overreach. but i think it is a very delicate balance that must be met. >> thank you.
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ms. kirkpatrick your 30 seconds. let's go ahead and hear from the candidates. >> i believe the science behind climate change. the defense department believes it, it has been said it is the biggest existential threat to the planet. we should have done something about it 20 years ago. but we really have to do something now. and we have to lower fossil fuel emissions. and tucson is a great place for us because we should be using alternative energy. we should be the solar capital of the world. right here in tucson. gabby giffords was working on that. i want to pick up that effort because we can do it, let's stop using fossil fuels, let's cover alternative energy when solar natural gas makes sense. >> vega. almost halfway through the evening. as hard as that is to believe and we are changing topics. we now turn our attention by
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questions with border security and immigration. we begin with a question this is for miss marques peterson. >> ms. marquez peterson, should daca be granted citizenship and if so what do you tell those that are waiting for their citizenship to be processed? >> i support dreamers. i do not believe it should include a pathway to citizenship and we need to focus on immigration reform. to me immigration reforms means that something is merit-based and also, border security. i do support the wall where it makes sense. surveillance technology resources, increased border patrol and all of that can be done together. it is very complex issue. i do support legal status for dreamers. >> ms. kirkpatrick? >> i support daca recipients, i support dreamers. i have a immigration working group to address immigration
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reform. an early start in my meetings with testimony from dreamers, daca recipients, through or four of them, different ones each time. their stories are so emotional. so impactful, and in so many cases, tragic. that i thought you know, if capitol hill could hear the stories we would get immigration reform. i introduced legislation to allow dreamers to work on capitol hill and i want to do that again.>> thank you, steve goldstein. a question for ms. kirkpatrick. >> the latino community we know is not monolithic. as a group they opposed the plan for a border wall. how specific would you be as far as those in the latino community that see bigotry in the white house? how would you try to address that?>> let me talk about border security. the borders only secure when the people who live there feel that it is secure. and i know ranchers along the border who feel that the presidents policies are inflaming the issue.
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and you know, policy of separating children from their parents, is horrible, horrible, gut wrenching, painful policy. a black eye on the country for the rest of our history. i have three grandchildren under the age of three. the fact that they would ever be separated against their will, from their parents and put in the hands of strangers? i cannot, i cannot even bear to think about that. i don't know how these families are coping with it. we've got to stop that policy. we have got to pass border policies. that are humane and legal. what the administration is doing is inhumane and illegal. >> ms. marquez peterson? >> i spent time with the sheriff in the county as well as ranchers along the border. and i learned that ann has not met with the sheriff yet. but the sheriff and others talk about the fact that drug
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smuggling and human trafficking is real and it is occurring at the southern border. we need to protect our families that are along the border. i think they will take to have fear related to people that might be coming through the desert with guns and other terrorism issues. i think it is important we do secure the border. for me, it is a wall where it makes sense. again, it is surveillance resources, increased border patrol and also resources for the sheriffs offices who, in many cases, are choosing to help and assist. >> the next question is from joe for ms. marquez peterson. >> as a ceo and republican, you are closely with organizations in mexico. you think the newly announced agreement is an improvement over nafta?
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>> i was a big proponent of nafta being improved and updated. it was 24 years old, there was no internet when it was originally written and expressed concern to the trump administration while he was renegotiating this. we did not want to see nafta go away. specifically because of the 110,000 jobs i mentioned previously. and the billions of dollars that of trade between southern arizona and mexico. i do support the usmca recently put in place. then we been able to see president trump, regardless of the relationship with mexico that had gotten rocky. negotiate a win-win for the united states and mexico. that includes canada. i think it is a great opportunity for our businesses and those that do trade in southern arizona and cd2. i support getting the agreement in place. >> ms. kirkpatrick. >> we have to look at all of the trade agreements and re-examine them. are they fair? every trade agreement has a
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winner and a loser. and it has to do be a transparent process. public process. so people can know what's in the trade agreement. how many people know what donald trump plans to do with nafta? i have not heard anything. that's the problem. my opponent will be lockstep with the administration as to address problems and non-open transparent manner. >> thank you. our next question is for ms. kirkpatrick from ron. >> ms. kirkpatrick, explain your view on how the sheriff departments and border counties should support or work with federal immigration and law enforcement officers? >> well, i was serving on the homeland security committee, i went to the board and met with border patrol. local law enforcement and at that particular time, the border patrol did not believe they had the resources they
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needed to do the job. i'm a former prosecutor, i have zero tolerance the criminal activity at the border. so i introduced legislation in 2010 that would give an extra $700 million to the border patrol. this allowed them to hire more agents, use drones and lock up more criminals. things are operating better. but it is really important that we have that dialogue with the people who are actually in the field, trying to make the areas safe. >> thank you, ms. marquez peterson? >> in cd2 i think the sheriffs have done an equitable job of providing additional resources for border security. i support that that continues, i would have supported and accepted stone garden funding if the county had not put that away. i think it is something that now the sheriff has to come out
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of his own budget to cover which is a shame. we need all the resources we can get at the border and it is vitally important. >> thank you. we're not finished with that segment we have a quick follow-up from lorraine rivera. >> ms. marquez peterson i will begin with you on this one. we have already discussed the family separation policy. what other border issue is nuanced that washington needs to better understand given that we are here in southern arizona directly on the border? >> you both have 40 seconds to answer this. >> okay. i think investment in our ports of entry is vitally important. in cd2 we have a port of entry in douglas, we need investment in that port.more than $1 billion is spent a year in trade between pima county and mexico. there's so much more we can be doing throughout southern arizona and the state of arizona with additional port of entry funding. >> thank you. ms. kirkpatrick. >> we need to pass very common sense legislation. i'll just give you an example. in 2012, the farmers came to me. agriculture is a big big economy in arizona. they said we have got
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immigration bill that we think congress can pass. basically, if someone can show that they have a job, they are working and they have legal status and they have a couple of years to choose whether they want to be in a guest worker program or want to pursue citizenship. very simple plan. i really thought we could get that done and here we are, again, with the republicans in control. they have not addressed immigration reform. john mccain got it through the senate in 2013. but it cannot get through the republican house. >> thank you. for the remainder of the evening, we will ask questions covering a variety of issues facing the nation. we begin with steve goldstein from kjzz and this question is for ms. kirkpatrick. >> ms. kirkpatrick, there is a closure coming in 2021. if you are serving in congress during the discussion, what specifically detractors a member of congress to ensure they remind -- remain a viable
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asset. >> is a cyber command center. then we have davis air force base which is home for the a-10. i cosponsored barbara's legislation to save the a-10. those two bases combined, bring about $5 billion to southern arizona. i would fight any effort to close down either one of those bases and would work with the commanders at both bases to make sure they have the resources that they need. i want to be on the appropriations committee. we do not have anyone in arizona on the appropriations committee right now. and i would like to be on the defense subcommittee to make sure that we protect the fort and also davis. and we will work very hard to do that.
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>> ms. marquez peterson you 30 seconds if you would like to request a work on this issue. i've been part of the southern arizona defense alliance which our community leaders have gathered to fight against --. i'm also a member of the community support group in a community calming a community outreach and support and outpouring of the support and in order to fight back. we need additional missions we need to do all we can to support and protect the forts. >> thank you, the next question is for ms. marquez peterson and it comes from joe ferguson. >> ms. marquez peterson, we know the history of the a-10. what will you do specifically to protect them after it is no longer flying? cresco question. we need to continue to fight for any additional resources where the a-10 while we can. and i know that the congressman is done a great job we need to continue to look for additional missions at davis air force base rated it is something that we need to do to continue the
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work she's done. >> thank you, ms. kirkpatrick you have 30 seconds. >> have talked with pilots that have flown the a-10 and they said is one of the best planes i've ever flown. it is much more agile in the air than phrases, the f 35. i've also believe that we should keep the a-10 in the fleet. it is a big part of what davis does i want to keep that a-10 at davis, keep the base open. and will continue the fight that gabby giffords and ron barber started over keeping that healthy military base. >> thank you, the next question comes to you, ms. kirkpatrick. this comes from ron hansen. >> ms. kirkpatrick, we've heard conflicting answers from you recently regarding president trump and impeachment. to be clear, do you think president trump has committed impeachable offenses and would you support pursuing articles of impeachment against him at this point? >> you know, as a prosecutor i never interfered with law enforcement investigations.
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i let them complete their work, bring their report to me and then i would look it over and see if i would issue a charge for consciousness to do the same thing regarding impeachment. there means to be a hearing, we need to let mr. mueller do his investigation with no interference from the administration. to see a report at the end of the day and look at it, have hearings, make sure the public knows what is in the report. and then make that decision. it has to be a thoughtful, studious, very careful process. >> thank you, ms. marquez peterson? >> i agreed we need an investigation. it is one of the reasons i was shocked when ann was caught on tape st. jude actually impeach president trump.i think if you hear the audio for yourself you can go to ann
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tackle some of the debt issues we will be facing. >> thank you, ms. kirkpatrick. you have 30 seconds if you would like to request my opponent supports a massive tax cuts for the wealthy and big corporations. and paul ryan came to tucson for her. he said, how are we going to pay for it? you have to look at social security and medicare. believe me, under his leadership, she will cut social security and medicare. i am endorsed by the committee to protect and preserve social security and medicare. and that is because i fight to keep those programs. they are not entitlements, they are earned benefits. our seniors deserve to have them. >> thank you. our next question is from steve goldstein and it is for ms. kirkpatrick. >> ms. kirkpatrick, i want to return to the topic of immigration reform. arizona had many leaders when it comes to that. the term used to be tossed on a lot but not anymore. do you think it's a possibility of a humane policy that also
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includes border security? is the congress ready to do this if you're in the house? >> your one minute. >> i believe it is possible to do that. if we pass comprehensive immigration reform, we free up the border patrol to focus on the criminal activity, stop the cartels, stop the human trafficking, stop the drug trafficking. but families who want to come here either to work or to make a better life for their families, should have a legal way to do that. it is a top priority when john mccain ushered through that legislation in 2013, i thought we would have it done by now, i really did. but we will push forward until we get it done. >> thank you. ms. marquez peterson, have 30 seconds to request a spoke about immigration reform previously. i do believe that we need to
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tackle this now and regardless of party, people know the system is broken. we need immigration reform that includes something merit-based, includes family and includes border security. which as i mentioned, it includes a wall for me where it has increased surveillance, increased border patrol, resources for the sheriffs. i think it's something we need to tackle again now. >> chris, if i made a quick follow-up? >> yes. >> understand your views, you think congress is ready to make it happen?>> i've been hearing generations are billed by senator mccain or senator flake in the past. i think there is a will to get this done. >> ms. kirkpatrick, would you like 40 seconds on the follow-up? >> yes, i would. one of the things i would like to do is put together working groups on various issues. i talked a little earlier about my immigration working group. i want to do that again. and so, is a way to engage the community to give me good ideas on legislation that we can pass. i really believe that people who are in the trenches know best. this is very much an approach that is from the bottom up rather than me imposing my
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ideas on the constituents here in congressional district 2. and i look forward to setting up the immigration working group but will have other working groups on the serious problems we are facing. >> thank you. we now turn to joe ferguson with a question for ms. marquez peterson. >> ms. marquez peterson, can you find any significant areas where you differ from martha mcsally? if possible please name specifics. >> from martha mcsally, i have been a advocate for tariffs and their impact on our small business community. i'm not particularly clear on what her role is in that or what her position. i will take it is an area which i expressed concern to the trump administration. we have small businesses within the chamber of commerce that have been dramatically impacted by the steel and aluminum tariffs. even when there was a threat before they were in place, and i majored to give the
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perspective and have a seat at the table but the trump administration to explain those effects on businesses. as he went through negotiations. those are areas in which i have deferred with the trump administration in particular. >> thank you, ms. kirkpatrick. >> is the areas where my opponent and martha mcsally agree. they both want to privatize social security. they do not support a woman's right to choose. and they do not believe in being accessible to the public. you know, there's a movement that started, take a stand, where is she? we cannot see her, she does not speak to us, she does not do town halls. my opponent has said the very same thing. she is not made herself open and accessible to the community and she will continue to do that. >> thank you. our next question is for ms. kirkpatrick and it comes from ron hansen. >> ms. kirkpatrick, and three terms in washington you are the principal sponsor of three bills that became law. one took care of two property owners who had a land survey in 1960, and other involved
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renaming a post office in miami arizona in the third involved a financial break for native american veterans seeking housing assistance. what can the residence and constituents of cd2 expect you to accomplish in your next term if you get one? >> yes, what they can expect is somebody who will listen to the problem and figure out a way to solve it. i passed that with a arizona congressman that ran against and beat me in 2002 actually. we decided to put our differences aside for the good of arizona. and work together. i look forward to working with arizona's congressional delegation. democrats and republicans to get legislation that a significant to southern arizona. pass in a bipartisan way. so we will be listening to the folks who say we need this legislation to address border security. we need this legislation to address education. i already hear that a lot.
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we need to protect social security and medicare and put them on a sustainable path. >> thank you, ms. marquez peterson. >> i'm not a politician, i've not have the opportunity, i think we need a lot of action related to the veterans. we more than 60,000 veterans that live in the district. we need to focus on bills that will impact the quality of the service, timeliness of the services they are provided, constituent services i think are key to any congressperson. i plan and commit to all veterans i will do all i can to ensure that we have quality constituent services for them throughout the district. >> we have about 10 minutes left of questioning. actually, for both of you, i have a question. ms. marquez peterson you'll get to answer this first but i will give you both one minute to answer. this district is split nearly evenly. one third, one third, one third
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republican, democrat and independent. if you are elected, knowing how your district is split, what is one issue that you would reach across the aisle to the other side to pass? ms. marquez peterson, you may go first and you have one minute. >> as i mentioned i've been running the tucson hispanic changer which is nonpartisan. it includes people from the entire region, all parties and so on. an issue of importance is healthcare. the current affordable care act has not been affordable. it is something most of the small businesses cannot provide or afford to provide insurance and they are down to one insurance company in the state servicing us. i think we need a bipartisan solution for the affordable care act or obamacare. we need to figure something that will work, looking for ideas, assurance across state lines, association plans. we need to sit together, nonpartisan and figure this out. we cannot do without quality health insurance.
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>> thank you, ms. kirkpatrick, we will give you one minute for this. >> health insurance is very important to families in arizona and across the country. repealing obama care is not the answer. but in arizona we have many places where we only have one insurance carrier in the marketplace. my idea is, let people buy in to medicare. medicare is a system that people like. it works and this is also paid for because there would be a premium like an insurance premium paid for the coverage. but it would give people a choice where they only have one other insurance company to look to. i also want to talk about education. we've not talked much about education, how important it is in arizona. i'm a product of arizona's public schools. there are three federal programs that funding needs to be restored. head start, secure rural schools and payment in lieu of taxes. arizona is unique in that over 80 percent of our land is public land. we fund education on property tax. payment in lieu of taxes is meant to make up for that lack
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of private property will have so much federal and state public land. >> thank you, our next question is to you, ms. kirkpatrick. it comes from lorraine rivera. >> ms. kirkpatrick, could you name two specific improvements to drastically change the healthcare system? >> yes. we need to require medicare to negotiate prescription drug costs. i hear that for more people that drug costs keep going up. that is something we can do. i think we also need to address the opioid crisis. we need to make sure that pharmacists are part of the care team for a person who is being treated for pain. and in order to do that, they have to be able to be reimbursed by medicare to work on that process and be a part of the care team.
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those are two changes that come to mind right away that we can get done. >> thank you, ms. marquez peterson. >> if you have heard ann on the campaign because she says her vote on the affordable care act was her proudest moment here which with me is out of touch with cd2. it is not affordable, we are promised choices will have, the doctors wanted to keep we cannot use. i think we need more choices, more insurance companies, it's something that makes sense for the companies and patients and so on so we can truly get the coverage we need. for me, changes would be covered across state lines, association plans and other innovative ways that we can provide more options to people. >> thank you. our question is for ms. marquez peterson and it comes from steve goldstein. >> ms. marquez peterson, arizona has a history of republican members of congress that whether the call it pork or something else are less inclined to want to bring products back to arizona. i want to know based on how you
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think about the deficit and one what not, are there certain things you would advocate or specifically would you be okay with competing with other states for certain projects? or do you view that as pork? because i think we need to do all we can represent in the state to bring our fair share back to arizona. whether it is transportation dollars or career technical education dollars, whatever that entails we need to ensure that we get our fair share back.>> thank you. ms. kirkpatrick? >> my first year we had earmarks, is a very transparent process. we collected projects in arizona. we listed them on our website, we took public input and made decisions on which ones the public thought most should be funded. we have small towns in the district that need wastewater treatment plants, the water issue, infrastructure. they cannot find it locally without those federal dollars. >> thank you. our next question is for you, ms. kirkpatrick. it comes from joe ferguson.
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>> ms. kirkpatrick, can talk to us a little about your record with the nra? you once had an "a" rating. can you explain what changed? >> i grew up in rural arizona, i used to help with my dad was part of our way of life. gabby giffords was a mentor to me the legislature and also in congress. i was a law clerk for john -- in fact, he just come back and visit with me right before the shooting. i was devastated when gabby giffords was shot, when zimmerman was killed, john was killed, i have changed my vote the way i address gun violence. i am part of a program that moms demand action. in another moms here tonight, thank you for being here, i am particularly interested in a program that teaches parents before they schedule a play
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date, quality of the family and say, do you own guns? do you have them in your house? are they loaded? where do you keep them? if the parents are not comfortable with any of the answers, they do not schedule the play date. we have got to do common sense things to stop gun violence. >> thank you, ms. marquez peterson. >> i am prosecco namenda. i do not believe that we should be penalizing legal gun owners, lawful gun owners and takinghis way. i think we need to focus on the issue, which is keeping hands of -- keeping guns out of the hands of bad people. mental health, behavioral health, criminal activity, databases i think need additional resources. i think we need additional education around that. but i am prosecco namenda. >> this is the final question. quickly and hourglass. it goes to ms. kirkpatrick from lorraine rivera. >> the population of cd2 is the
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largest landmass of the district in a more rural area. how do you balance the district needs between the two communities? >> i listen to people, my ranching background resonates with people in the county but my previous district had the northern suburbs of tucson and also had greenlee county. so i start with a base of being known in -- county and also in tucson. we had an office in the valley, volunteers coming in, working to get me elected and so i started the -- and we are building a period of six offices open, hundreds of volunteers going out, talking with voters about what is important to them. i knock on doors myself. i like to continue to have those conversations. as i mentioned in my opening, people come up to me now and
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express their worries or concerns, their anxieties about what's happening to this country and how important the election is to our values and principles. >> ms. marquez peterson. >> this is not a new issue to me. as i mentioned, i've lived here more than 40 years. my chamber operates already in the counties. arizona economy is on fire. your great things. we have not seen -- i am aware of that. more than 94 percent of our businesses in southern arizona are small business. less than 25 employees. that is the type of community i've been working with and am very familiar with some of the challenges that face rural arizona. >> i will cut you off so that we can go to closing statements. we are closing statements each have one minute, ms. marquez
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peterson, you have the first minute. >> certainly. well it is clear people are tired of politics as usual. tired of the nastiness. washington and politics, i showed you the flyer earlier that was a clear example of that, where there are lies about me into the candidates related to $50,000 in special interest money when ann has taken more than $3 million in money from special interest groups. i'm running for office to represent our community and she is running for this office simply to get back to the -- this is her third race in four years. and she is violating even her own term limit pledge. i think that it is time we have someone representing us clearly in the community. i would be honored to serve my home as your congresswoman. >> thank you so much. and ms. kirkpatrick, you have one minute for closing. >> i want to correct a couple of things my pennant does not understand. first of all, she talked about people having separate accounts
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for social security. it is not the way it is not an ira, you do not pay into social security and it goes into your own account. it just shows how unprepared she is for this job. she wants to put social security in the hands of wall street. we saw what happened when the greedy wall street bankers looked out for themselves, not the american people and we had the great recession. just imagine how bad it would have been if seniors have social security managed by wall street. she does not support the right to choose and she supports paul ryan, who came here for a fundraiser. my opposition has spent over $40 million attacking me. mainly on my healthcare which i am proud of. and it was the right thing to do. i voted for the affordable care act despite being told i would lose my next election. and i did. but it was the right thing to do. >> thank you both. we reached the end of the your
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vote 2018 congressional district 2 debate. presented live here at the tucson jewish community center. thank you so much to the staff for hosting us this evening. and thanks to our panel of journalists including lorraine rivera, from arizona public media and all of our partners into nights debate. steve goldstein from our npr sister station in phoenix, kjzz. joe ferguson of the arizona daily star and ron hansen of the arizona republic. and to the candidates, ms. kirkpatrick and ms. marquez peterson, incorporated you to both of you for observing time, thank you for answering our questions, thank you for taking the time to run for office. and also to our viewers and listeners, thanks so much for tuning in. if you're in arizona, remember, early ballots go out tomorrow. so it is time to remember what they said. and begin voting. for those of you who do not get early ballots, election date is november 6. i am christopher conover, have a good night.
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biography of chief justice john marshall. >> john marshall's legacy really was obscured by a single opinion, his decision in marbury v. madison that establishes the principle of judicial review. and that's what he's known for. but the fact is john marshall was a soldier in the revolutionary army, he was very important. he was the judge advocate general of the army. he served at valley forge. he was a leading figure in the virginia house of delegates and probably the indispensable man in the ratification debates, because he was the guy who really persuaded the majority of virginian dell the gates to go along -- delegates to go along with ratifying the constitution. without virginia, there wouldn't have been a constitution. he was an important diplomat in negotiations with france, and he was secretary of state. and all of those other contributions that he's made as a founding father kind of get forgotten because of the
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