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tv   British Ambassador to the U.S. Remarks at Hudson Institute  CSPAN  November 27, 2018 1:07am-2:03am EST

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british ambassador to the us discussed relations at an event hosted by the hudson institute in washington topics included brexit, north korea and uk relations with russia. >> think you. thanks for being here and to all those folks watching on c-span as well as the people in the hall. what do you prefer? ambassador? we met kim is fine. the question that everybody wants to have an answer what is going on with brexit?
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to be in and out of the e.u.. what is the state of play? we mac what the prime minister has negotiated his exceptional achievements 15 years of my career of the european union with that on the basis. what they voted for back in june 2016 and with the borders and the money and laws.
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and from march 2019 to the end of december 2020. and for the business community with that continuity and assurance. and while we have those details of the future relationship and those that with the national security so in the sense of trying to find, remember the brexit vos - - but was quite close 16 percent to 40 percent so
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that balance for those that our concerned and i think they found it. this is the best that can be done. and british parliament in december. >> for the moment she got support for the cabinet about ten or 12 days ago now she has support from the other 27 european union leaders. nobody would deny that it is a tight rope if you are a strong
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supporter of brexit that is of the good. if you are a strong supporter then you are risking a new deal which most observers believe would be highly disruptive ife not chaotic so yes at the moment and to think about the consequences to say this is the best way forward.
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and. >> and two very cleverly writtenn that it makes it hard for foreigners to figure out where things are going. is that the kind of vote that breaks up the government to get the election or new prime minister? we mac what the government is carefully to avoid eating to say what they will do and for plan b. between now and then. so by the way there was the opinion poll with the majority of public support so if you
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are representing constituents where the public view is. but in that typical matter than they have to decide. and without the deal. but there is nothing we can say. 's payment could they have a another vote in parliament but if they do nothing and the date for brexit arrives if it arrives without a vote? we mac i am no expert on parliamentary feature but it isn't obvious to me if the
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vote was lost to leaving without a deal is the way forward so this is speculative. >> one of the key issues in negotiations with the irish border and that is politically tricky i understand because the government depends on the unionist party it means they are in favor of union with the united kingdom not the rest of ireland. how has that parties wait in politics affected things?
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i guess right now they seem very skeptical. >> they were in full agreement to support government given how tight things are in parliament. and and that was a promise but she has done it and has gone to the edge for what was promised and now in that transitional. while we stay within a customs
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arrangement within the e.u. for no border controls but in that. that we will do a deal with the e.u. to keep straight as frictionless as possible because we also want to do free-trade deals but we think we can do that as good as possible with those minimum of controls but if we can with the implementation. then you have the famous backstop that is temporary with these arrangements to continue. but it is in both of our
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interest in every direction. so i am confident we would do the deal and leading that backstop. >> so let's assume that things go roughly as planned and brexit goes through. then presumably he would need foreign-policy for post brexit and with those free trade agreements presumably they will want a trade agreement with the unitedd states. what does that look like? what is britain hoping to achieve? we mac remember we are permanent members of the security council the second biggest contributors to nato
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with cooperate foreign-policy and those global players in terms of defense with military people of very small numbers so we feel we are global players and that would continue in the future. in terms of free trade deal with the us administration has echoed the ambitious deal with goods and services to exploit those similarities in our economies which is a very big amount of 200 billion per year
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because it is already the biggest to the generation and could be much bigger. and no terra for access into the us and vice versa. so that is ambitious as we can get. >> with those that are in london schematic post brexit immigration arrangements with that direction we are going in. that we are a country we need
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them for the workforce. but in terms of the american companies who talk to us about that concerns of the best and the brightest and we want them to expand and adopt immigration. >> is that special? >> and those that this is
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exceptionally wise and deep. and that was the investment and they go to british companies if you look at culture or how many british actors seem to find employment in hollywood that the british often play villains of the revolutionary war. >> that used to be the case but i remember a british actor playing martin luther king that is about the iconic a role as you can imagine but
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that's before you get into there is a huge amount going on like 50 billion of the us equipment over the next decade and the maritime patrol aircraft and on the nuclear weapon program eight or 900 brits embedded in the armed forces at any one time. dozens of projects to those weapon systems national security and the relationship is the closest it has ever been now. with those exceptional and uniqueo and special.
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>> that one challenge it must give you personally when washington is as polarized as american politics are bitter in many ways britain has a long history working effectively with both parties in the united states. how do you manage to keep your channels open with both parties? we mac to be honest it isn't the problem. we find open doors welcome on both sides of the political aisle. we spend two afternoons a week whenever congress was in session i always do a combination of republicans and democrats to be welcome on both sides and the residents
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is built and we have a lot of them so with that mission it is no problem but for the brits. >> maybe that is a bipartisan consensus. we don't know but it's good to hear. . >> after brexit you will have complicated issues with the e.u. and the euro zone with economic relationship. how will britain manage that portfolio? primarily through the representatives in brussels?
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how do you manage that? we mac certainly we will need a large mission and it will be much smaller post exit looking at those outside the e.u. because there is a lot to cover with those close and cooperative relationships with the european partners and also to expand one --dash extend that from the states.
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and in terms of the e.u. not just the commission and then try to influence the decision and the parliament and the institution. >> seeing the emergence and action is in the e.u. but it isn't different political partiest with the parliament getting stronger but also groups of countries with the new countries people seem to be organizing in different ways some of these groups have positions more in sync so well they play a role and to be a feature of the e.u. of those
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27 members. and then you get so groupings around issues every time that bid known - - that budget comes up they are contributors for those who are the recipients. and then to go between france and germany. >> so we ran very closely but all of these things are fluid but in the end with the european council if we agree
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to the conclusions with a discussion up to that point in the end everyone has a say. and with those political groupings the people's party and the other small groups as well so there are different formations. >> studying divisions in europe has been a british skill. i realize those days are past but looking further abroad to the commonwealth i know britainbr gave up those close economic relations and that
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led to a bad feeling that now leaving the e.u. with bilateral treaties with new zealand and canada with the grouping how are you approaching this? with the number one priority with post brexit trade deals is with the us. and those trade deals australia and new zealand and canada. and then dealing with the bigger economies and then to
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do an international deal and these are high on the priority list. . >> that other big trend to be signed needs brexit is the geopolitics. but britain is the global interest as a middle power works out the relationship withth china. to have a very contentious relationship and the russians have sent agents to murder people on british soil. how will britain t approach russia after brexit or in general?
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. >> your? characterization to see people poisoned with lethal nerve agents it is possible to have a normal bilateral relationship so as they are and with ukraine with the russian behavior to take issue with. and then to extol those russian diplomats we would like to have better relations
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with russia. with that treaty interest on the energy scene of the members of thehe national un security council. nothing changes for us but we will keep the channels open and keep talking toe them. >> with china maybe it's more complex that it looks better but there seems to be emerging points of that contentiousness with that participation with the south china sea and the south pacific and then to
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build up the presence in the pacific. to be on the steady and significant path for some years now. as the national security adviso advisor. >> and with this upward trend with those 300 businessmen on a two or of china and we believe very strongly with the way forward and the dissipation of the chinese economy. it isn't just about commercial
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as they were up 22 percent last year. a lot is good and strong and growing about uk and china relationship. intended as a provocation to china but exercising internationally recognized rights of human navigation. to be part ofar international order and the russians have a right and they will do that. and with that support. and with the intellectual property and where we would
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like to see changes. and then talking about hong kong with a couple of decades they have worked well but to keep ensure that lift up in spirits. with that relationship. but we feel in a good place right now. >> >> but they are working less well and hong kong's distinctive position to be eroded eroded am not an expert but my question is basically one country to systems is working and the chinese
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partners for to do what was done two decades ago. we are talking all the time with hong kong and basically it works well and with that commercial strength that judiciary it is imperfect but it is pretty good. >> turning quickly to the middle east. >> that the most important trend of power to see a number
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of air andee loan - - arab states countries like syria that once was is a bastion of nationalism the gulf monarchies are looking at long-term declines of oil revenue and the trends that have them worried. britain has a long history of engagement in this part of the world with relationships that gogo back and forth in some cases centuries, do the greeks have any advice for the romans in that particular part of the world? we mac with that view of the arab world.
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and that this was part of a fresh start at the nations with the two great things if you look at libya and syria in particular but that's not how it worked out. it is a hugely important part of the world so people keep reminding us of that and those bilateral relations and of those of north africa are very important p if you want to look more optimistically with the things that are happening in
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particular with those more liberal ideas gaining hold to be quite a long time in the future but in syria and libya we are part of trying to do our part to establish the security and peace of process and with those resources especially with the d loss of life destruction with syria and to specialize used to me it was the best that you can have and now it is a tragedy that it is
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now retrievable. >> there is some young people in the audience and others watching on cnn are they curious about the uk and would like to follow the news and learn more? what should they read or what should they do? . >> there are so many more ways of following continence and news now than they are used too be. amused to those news apps and doing stuff online it is so old-fashioned not to revert to the newspaper. but nowadays you look at "politico" early morning cnn and "washington post" and then
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you have to go through everything before you get the newspaper in your hand but young people know more than i do but i still think the bbc websites are extraordinary and a wonderful institution and what they do is great to be objective and fair in their coverage but i think the british newspapers are great as well. >> he likes them all. any questions from the audience at this point? please wait for the microphone and introduce yourself and make your question short.
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>> in with the voice of america the meeting in london with the maritime insurance companies to seek ways to prevent a north korea's ship to ship transfer. the scope of the cooperation to help to block north korea evading sanctions and what is the position for north korea at this time call by south korea and russia and china at the time it didn't take any significant denuclearization. >> we have the question we strongly support us policy of north korea we think it is dangerous for national security and the nuclear program and it is clear to us
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it is an important element to bring north korea to the table but what they haven't seen yet is real denuclearization and until we do and those intentions need to continue we have an embassy in pyongyang so that is having an impact and then you have to continue as promised and yes we do cooperate a lot with the administration on these issues and if you do we will cooperate on that as well.
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that we will help to support and make them effective. >> and to be recommended to the young people with the british journalist through the early fifties douglas reed was renowned internationally until he wrote the book the controversy of american history so what are your thoughts that should be well known to you into britain that they value his writings. >> i have not read any of his books so i don't know i am afraid. this book i have read recently is called hello world it is a book about impact it is
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beautifully written and the impact of algorithms across different areas the whole range of different things. but for me this is the best piece of learning i have done. >> thank you for coming it's lovely to see you again. you mentioned the irish border. do you know, what it says in this particular deal and is there a likelihood if it
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doesn't pass it would be another referendum? . >> i think a second referendum is extremely unlikely i don't know how you get from where you are now with the deal on the table to a second referendum. but as we said earlier to go as far as she could to deliver a promise, that's why that is part of the reason of this implementation. of customs arrangement and by
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then if you don't get the trade deal you will have a backstop and then to ensure people have confidence. >> i just have a quick follow-up with the trade relations post brexit and are you aligned closely with the you - - the e.u. and how those could be true in what you have
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in the interim. >> that's a good question and why you ask it. that is for negotiations once we have this deal it has to agree it is the core of the future negotiation but i am not announcing that with my expectation and they may run in parallel but that keeps us the tray on - - the trade the freedomws of the deal.
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and to do something that is ambitious. of course, i trust my colleague colleagues. >> i am a retired foreign service officer asking about the immediate nuclear forces that could be on its last legs. it could be a nuclear force of its own. and with this european union after brexit? and on that treaty so we
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understand why the administration and to see nuclear weapons as an issue it is more questionable if defense at all is attributable but we have supported a limited initiative designed to do things in parts of the world that is appropriate for or does not want to do and in terms of the deterrence that they are talking about in nature that they are talking about in nature and with the
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foreign policy journal so to give military to exert without much support from the us if they will withdraw to the uk do that for an extended period of time? . >> just on the back of security review of the strategy and with that target for the collective armed forces. and one is doing the eastern
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seaboard at the moment and will do it next year. so the two biggest aircraft carriers the navy the two biggest ships in the navy and after that and with that defense budget and gdp rises to spend more on defense with that capability and it is improving all thehe time. so yes they should be able to do things.
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but in terms of the national capability in terms of the national capability with the g 20 summit is coming we heard the prime minister may well join the summit as well. can you give us an insight what your expectation for that? and what about brexit? . >> veggie 21 - - the g 20 with climate change and trade. that is interesting.
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but in the margins but with the prime minister to be sitting next to one another. so they have that option to talk and i'm sure they will talk about brexit and other stuff going on and they spoke on the telephone it is not all to interact but i want to hear
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those discussions. >> the recent piece in "the washington post" described as a trojan horse in the e.u. so i would like to know your reactio reaction. >> doing my 15 years but what i said the whole time getting instructions so i never really thought that description. and they continue with foreign
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policy and security and other issues. because we have the policy termss so if we can succeed economically we continue to invest and for other international? this is about the future. but also across the atlantic.
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>> thank you both so much i am a dual citizen so this has been interesting. but with the personal relationships had a big impact so if you look around the world now what areas? . >> one of the strengths of the us and uk relationship one of those realities is just how strong those personal links
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are between diplomats across the atlantic and across the pond and they talk the national security advisers and that middle east expert with the counterparts and that makes a huge difference to how the relationship functions on policy objectives and operational decisions so when the us ministers and improve actions but what is unique to the uk or the us and those
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similar relationships with the british and french and german as a national security advisor to a number of times talking to my counterparts and talk to them even when uk russia relations go to moscow talking to the diplomatic advisor but that dialogue is a little less but there is the basic principle and a lot of work could be done that could be
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beneficial to sorting out the problems with the ministers and prime ministers. >> thank you very much that. has been very helpful i know the ambassador is on a tight schedule and washington is a little rainy so we will try to get him out t h so he can fight the traffic. thank you for coming and thinks to c-span and others who are watching us and we look forward to the next event in the series which is tomorrow perhaps we will see you then. [applause] . . . .
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