tv Politico Women Rule Summit Panel on the New Senate CSPAN December 13, 2018 9:58pm-10:27pm EST
senators joni ernst and jeanne shaheen talked about running for office and advice for him and thinking of a career politics because half our discussion was part of politicos women's leadership summit in washington d.c.. >> welcome and thank you guys for joining us. i'm really excited to be here. i am heather caygle in the supporter "politico" and i'm joined by senator jeanne shaheen of new hampshire and joni ernst of iowa. [applause] wherever you guys want to be i will adapt. we have already had two really interesting discussions featuring current and incoming congresswomen and now we are going to turn to the senate.
next year wen will have a recod number of women in the senate, and i am very lucky to be joined by two of these women today. we hope to cover a lot of ground in the next 25 minutes. we are going to talk current events happening on the senate for. want to talk to both of you about the presidential campaign because of your home states and hopefully we will wrap up with a conversation about women's growing influence in congress particularly in your chamber. with that i wanted to get started. about an hour president trump will sit down with chuck schumer and nancy pelosi the democratic leaders to talk about the border wall. as you guys know the stakes couldn't be higher. government funding is set to expire next friday the day before christmas or the two sides are pretty dug in on the funding they want to see for the border wall and border security. senator ernst i want to start with you. we have seen trump schumer and pelosi can together on an immigration deal before only for
it all to fall apart. you think there's a realistic chance they can stay with the deal? >> i always remain hopeful. i tell everyone i am an optimist so i do temper things with a bit of optimism but i hope an hour or so that they do have a really great thorough discussion about what our country needs. our country needs to keep the government funded and keep it open and all of us are hopeful it will at work a government shutdown. we also know that we do need a suture border. many agree on that. that was one of president trump's talking points on the campaign. he wanted to build a wall or more broadly secure our nation. i hope they can come together on this and find a path forward. we have to work together and again we would like to emerge -- of furred any sort of government shutdown. ..
i think they could have asked for a lot more we can come together on that there is a priority the democrats would like to see perhaps we could work with those issues as well. whatever funding we can secure we want to do that i would love to see the 5 billion that the president has asked for. >> >> that we see a shutdown next weekse rex. >> we need to remember we funded 70 percent of government and the department of defense it's about 30 percent of government i serve as the ranking member
and on that bill on the other appropriations bill that have not been passed through the senate that i think the question is what is the best way? that's what i hear from my constituents but there are better ways to do that then build a wall we have 600-watt miles of fencing that is very strong i have been down there i have had a chance to see it but what wei' have not done is environmental or property owners concern and wide eyes saw down at the southern border is what made a difference was technology and
coming across the border and the border wall to provide security that's the debate we should be having passing comprehensive immigration reform we put significant dollars into border security but that does not include a wall. we are having the wrong debate right now it is about the president and him trying to appeal to his base and that should not be the base of the next decision. >> i would just add really as congress we tend to agree any funding move forward can include physical barriers but it is about technology we have seen that successfully promoted and many other countries with their borders where you are engaging with
aerial observation and various technologies to detect movement along the border. all of that should be discussed and wrapped into a package and i do hope our leadership can turn on - - come to terms with that. >> it sounds like you two are close to an agreement. [laughter] >> yes i think we would have this worked out. [laughter] [applause] >> also this week discussing a resolution punishing saudi arabia for its role in the horrific murder of khashoggi you voted against the procedural vote to allow this to move forward do you plan to oppose the resolution and what's your thinking behind that quick. >> i see two separate issues we do have the murder of the journalist khashoggi which we cannot overlook. we lost a man to a horrible
horrible human rights violation he was out right murdered and we know that. what we have to do and those consequences ice right now is separate from the discussion of the saudi's and their actions in yemen engaging the houthi. so that no vote, we are engaged in peace talks between saudi and the houthi rebels and that just started last week in the united states was very instrumental to get those two parties to the table to start the peace talks so to engage in a discussion of the us presence in that region and then not engaging puts those peace talks at jeopardy in my mind.
so when we have the khashoggi issue and then separately we have issues between terrace one - - terrorist and what is going on in yemen and the saudi's and their engagement , at some point they will all merge together right now we want to focus on we can get through the peace talks so the houthi and the saudi's can revisit the khashoggi murde murder. >> but as a senator just said they all might all come back together that the senate might have to take up next year if you run out of time on the calendar this year you are on the foreign relations committee. and you are considering another measure to condemn the saudi crown prince himself for the murder do you see that moving this year that the senate revisits the other
two pieces of legislation and there is another piece of legislation senator menendez is doing that has sanctioned against the saudi's. but i voted for that resolution. i will vote for it this week i appreciate what joni is saying about the need to have peace talks moving forward but i don't believe the solution in yemen is more irw think it is a peaceful solution. but we cannot allow saudi arabia to continue its human rice on - - human rights abuses in yemen costing the lives putting at risk 14 million people of dying from starvation kidnapping of the prime minister of lebanon taking him to saudi arabia.
starting fights with qatar in the middle east and then though horrific murder of jamaal khashoggi. those are human rights violations it is very important for the united states to send a very strong message because the rest of the world is watching what we do. [applause] we need to let saudi arabia know that that kind of behavior is not acceptable. jamaal khashoggi was a legal resident of the united states and a journalist with the washington post and is part of the group that time magazine has called the defender of the year because of the importance of journalism and protecting democracy. it is not acceptable to murder a citizen or a resident of the
united states in that way we have to speak out. [applause] >> we will have differences on policyl points i serve on the armed services committee so i do take his life on - - a slightly different look we do have peace talks that are ongoing but i think they are very important and there are human rights violationse s and e know saudi is a perpetrator of this. i don't think there is anywe question. however to disengage americans from the middle east the saudi's will continue perpetratingy these violations so i do think there are some resolutions we need to consider to target the crown prince and we need to debate those those are the actions that need to come forward but again, human rights violations even if we pull out those on
terrorism it will not do us any good at a this point because saudi arabia what we don't want them to do from a military perspective is then to turn to other influencers in the region like china and russia. we do have to think through it what we want to see and converge at the same point. >> well i have you here from iowa and new hampshire from the primary states diving into 2020, how are you preparing for what probably will be one of the most intense presidential campaigns we have ever seen quick. >> have you had anybody through new hampshire yet? [laughter] >> of course we have. already. i am not preparing for 2020 my
senate races up in 2020. i think it's important in new hampshire and iowa one of the reasons the iowa caucus and the new hampshire primary has survived as long as they have is because the voters are very engaged. they really taken interest what isag going on. they listen to every candidate before they make a decision they ask tough questions it's not enough just to buy television time you have to engage with voters and answer questions and say what your ideas are and your vision . that's really important to the political process. we welcome all of those candidates thinking about writing we've already had a couple dropout on the democratic side i expect the field to change as we go through the process. >> also a number of our colleagues and others have been through iowa.
it is just as jesus said, the voters in iowa and new hampshire they fully expect a presidential candidate will sit at their kitchen table and they will have a conversation with them. it is just up close and personal in those states and because they are so engaged , they know how important it is as the first in the nation primary and caucus voters and to formulate their thoughts listening to these dynamic leaders that yes we do imagine it will get hot and heavy very soon. >> both of you touched on this but the importance of your state with the process some states are starting early voting next year my california
ohio and a few others so do you worry maybe not for the republicans in 2020 but in the future about the candidates traveling to those states and stealing the thunder in the future quick. >> i don't worry about it because i watch the primary process over 30 or 40 years now. every year there is a new state that moves up in thee debate will that reduce the influence of iowa and new hampshire cracks the fact is you cannot run in california the same way you can run in iowa and new hampshire it's a huge state requiring millions of dollars in you don't have that same connection with voters and that is what is so enduring about the new hampshire primary you have to engage with voters i still think that is important for president of the united states
to have to talk to people and answer the tough questions about why they want to be president and what they want to do. so it will continue in new hampshire. >> i agree completely with that in during quality about going to a local diner to sit down with family or workers or a rancher talking about issues face-to-face we really don't have that same level of engagement especially many of them are engaged in early voting i do think a lot will focus new hampshire and iowa where they can engage with voters are formulated with their questions and the policies they want to hear
about. >> your both upper lip for reelection in 2020 senator ernst do you want to campaign with president trump? >> i feel pretty comfortable about doing my own campaigning but president trump still does feel pretty good from the voters about his favorability ratings so yes i will welcome the president absolutely into iowa i do support a number of his policies. we may not agree on absolutely everything but but national security and making sure we have a strong military is important to iowans as well as the economy and right now we are doing quite well with 60000 open jobs in iowa so right now iowa has a lowest unemployment rate in the nation. and wages are going up.
it is a good environment right now so we would welcome him in but i still cover my 99 counties just as i do every year i have served in the senate and i will do it on the campaign trail as well. >> i don't expect to campaign with president trump. [laughter] [applause] >> how did you know that was my next question? [laughter] >> i would love to turn to women in congress as we heard this morning a record number of women elected in the house and senate have you seen the chamber involve in tangible ways? and if so do you have examples of that quick. >> i have been in the senate
since 2009 but one of the best examples is when the democrats are in thepl majority that shares those committees with all women so the mikulski chair of the appropriations committee patty murray with the exception of finance is not shared by a woman but that is a real sign of influence and power when women control the money. [laughter] so much what happens in congress is about money and funding and when women are in charge that's when they really influence decisions. and i do like to believe that women are greater influencers now they had maybe over the past several decades and republican or democrat we do have a lot of women moving
into positions of authority whether chair women i have moved into leadership for the republican conference. so i do think we have a changing demographic. it is still an old boys club maybe in some areas but i like to think there are strong women engaging and we are taking those positions and we are earning those positions in the united states senate with the support of our colleagues as well. so we are starting to see a surge of qualified women moving into those positionse of authority which is really powerful and much more regressive of society at large. >> it to be the first woman on the republican side.
>> why has it taken so long for h another woman to serve in leadership in the senate are you worried it's a trend that will continue quick. >> that's a great question i am very critical of this typically what you see in leadership elections he already have the people serving in the elected positions shifting to the next position higher and very few people choose to run against them. and then to make sure our conferences heard and then to have challenging elections.
i want my voice heard so we are more reflective of our constituencies that have women in them. right quick so why should women not quick. >> what you have been thinking after you move up? or do you worry you could be the only d woman for a while? >> we have to encourage a step forward with those that are surveying and leadership we have got to be more
progressive about what we do. if we want our voices heard me have to decide we want to engage. v >> and those that are challenged by seniority it will be hard because and later to get elected the chair of the appropriations committee the longest-serving woman in the united states senate. and with that leadership and they cannot take over those powerful positions the biggest thing i think about the term
limits so from the early seventies through the 2000's and those that are elected office throughout theff office because it takes longer to get into position it takes longer to get back. but the number of women that god elected and then to flatline for a number of years so it is exciting to see so many women. >> on that note for the women in the audience what is your advice?
>> if you have a passion to engage your community and with that local elected office start their to be known by your community be supported by your community and do it. >> you can work on a campaign. i started that. and as joni says, get engaged in the community at the best way to get involved in the process. >> thank you for joining us it is a great conversation today.
that is exactly what people want. because they become so cynical. >> and that would've been a blessing. but i have seen and experienced firsthand. and that is an incredibly humbling journey in a public venue. >> those that i stepped on their toes a number of times over the years that billionaires decided i had to go. i spent over ten / one that i know now and those billions of