tv Yeonmi Park In Order to Live CSPAN December 27, 2018 11:56pm-12:32am EST
>> in your book in order to live, you write that you would have done anything for a bowl of rice. anything. what does that mean? . >> now i'm to the point that i am eating salads when i was there solid cement rabbit food that people would pay money to buy rabbit food i had to eat that because i was starving in korea. but when you are hungry it's not just that you are hungry but it your entire existence
and the recipe for i was able to barely of those guiding and starvation. >> host: tell me about the decision-making process to get out of the country. >> guest: i do not have internet, i do not know what is happening in the rest of the world. i was living in the border town of north korea and they used it from its allies.
i have no idea what was going to happen so i don't die from starvation. >> what do you remember about seeing the lights and what do you remember seeing the light of the fireworks and even the food smells you talk about ford drift over to north korea? >> at that point all i felt was envy of people across the border.
because i was born on this side of the river i have to be starved and be a slave but because other people were born on th a different side of the rr they have electricity, paved roads, cars. >> what did it cost your family to come across that river? [inaudible] >> for how long? >> almost two years. they escaped the terror of oppression and hunger.
being raped and tortured and going back in north korea and getting their kids and being punished. being raped every single day. >> was it worth the price? >> yeah, of course. i am the only one that made it. so many people paid more enormous price then i did and were never able to reach what i have here, but of course.
i have food and passports. and what i tell you, no one is going to execute me for this. if i was born again i would do everything i could to be free. free. >> in your book you talk about the fact that you thought the family could read your mind. >> it's one of the ten religions in the world, a post that he created this nation and freed humanity and gave his beloved son and [inaudible]
the universe chose them. i have no information to know. >> you write in your book the 1960s and 1970s were a different time then when you grew up. was it a paradise in the 60s and 70s? >> it wasn't a paradise. people had no idea as the cost of the freedom of expression or the movement of the religion. there were millions dying of starvation they don't have basic rights that require people to be
years. to be like myself crashing into the communities that they need to hold us accountable, and that in those countries they are abusing human slavery and in this awareness going on on the grassroots level they ask people i don't know how they will continue again and again. i thought i was going to get punished but look at the
interview that is by it's important for us to know they are slaves and they can be like us. >> your mother was pretty loyal. the >> she thought it was the end of the universe and even after they escaped i was suffering so much at the age of 18 people that you are looking for, he is a great guy and that is what i did
because i was so brainwashed. the only thing i want to make sure that the media and the rest humanize the population who cannot understand the idea of freedom and democracy. that isn't true. they are in the same country for thousands of years. the system is the problem, not the people. and when you try to save the people are the problem, people
statewide didn't you fight, fight it you put up with it and i say if you don't know that you are a slave how do you become free. they are isolated and don't know that they are slaves. people fight for that. >> did you realize that you were not happy as a child? did you have a happy childhood at all the? >> i was very happy and was hungry and thought i might start tmightdecide to give you could f starvation but i had loving
parents i was grateful for the fight was a hopeless child. in north korea have classes you are born into. before i was born, my father said my great grandpa [inaudible] it was so hard and all i remember is a being hungry and desperate and afraid they could hear me and that is the first thing my mom told me us don't even whisper.
but by that i feel like thinking back i was loved in my household. host color is your family, your mother and sister and father to a? >> my father died from lung cancer in prison in north korea. my mother in south korea in the countryside and my older sister we were separated for like ten years and she's in south korea studying union rights now. are you a citizen? are you going to go for your citizenship tax >> of course.
what year did you cross the river? >> 2007, march 31. i was 13. >> you in the hospital. my mother remained at my bedside because th they had no money to bribe them, the nurses ignored me. my other had to do everything from keeping my incision cleaned giving me whatever food she could find. the hospital is poorly equipped and filthy. to use the bathroom i have to get up and across cross the cod to reach the outhouse. at first i was too weak to stand but once i was well enough to walk to the bathroom i discovered the hospital used courtyard to store the dead. the whole time i was staying there several bodies were stacked by code pink my room and the outhouse. even more horrible for the rats that feasted on them day and night.
it was the most terrible sights i've ever seen. the first thing they each are the eyes because that is the softest parts of the body. i can still see those hollow red eyes. they come to me in my nightmares and i wake up screaming. do you still have those nightmares? you were 13 at the time. right after that, how quickly did you leave the country after that incident at the hospital plaques to the koufa >> the next morning [inaudible] >> how much money and how many people knew that you were leaving? >> my mother and my father. my friends did not know. we left a note in trying to find where my sister was in a leedy told me she was in china.
if i left her there i knew she was going to die. >> you could barely walk. >> i just removed my stitches and we had to climb and cross the river when the darkness comes. we couldn't cross anywhere. we hav had to go to an area noty people are coming by. >> is smuggling a big business in north korea? >> it's the only way you get things. the country is the banker.
where do you get close to disco clothing if it doesn't come from china. >> there is a picture of you in the book standing in pyongyang in front of a palace or something, and you have a t-shirt on that such recess in english. you were allowed to wear that? >> not any more. they changed the regulations and even to this day they don't like you havletyou hear things in thh alphabet and you can be punished for what you are wearing. >> what was the biggest surprise to you once you've got across the border, the biggest shock?
>> [inaudible] you do not talk about who got raped or a natural disaster. we talk about the amazing things happening. so for me to know what's being raped was, didn't even know what that act was it was something that was unheard of like i never thought about it so that his the first thing my mom was being raped. >> what was your view of america and americans and had you ever seen it on a map map >> no, i've never seen a map of the world. i didn't know where africa plus or canada. i knew of americans because they since american ambassadors.
i knew about china and russia but that's about it. other european countries i didn't even know the race we hadhad, i'd never seen a picturf colored people or white people, just an american poster. green eyes and monsters, that is what they told us americans look like and i don't have internet. how can i find the truth on that? >> we are here at las vegas at the freedom fest. the first time you came to las vegas, what was going on in your mind? >> it was overwhelming. people really live life, really
enjoyed life. that's what people do they should have the freedom to choose what they do. but i feel like i don't even know how to comprehend this idea i feel like i'm from a different universe, a different planet bike we don't know what is happening. it's like what is going to happen if humanity is moving forward for the millions of people for 70 years y. pr in this place.
the technology and the intelligence moving us to a production but it is unthinkab unthinkable. like do you care about china gave the climate change, a quality, so many things. i couldn't understand why people had no room for american people. we have room for everything else plop 25 million people being punished for their birthplace. i'm not saying that north korea is a [inaudible] the need to care about it. like how is one country being completely forgotten that his
it will continue if we do not take action. >> what are you doing today? >> i'm running my own organization with my partner from north korea was at the state of the union i am trying to rescue so they let people know in north korea that they are slaves. they are not in a paradise. that is what i do and it is like
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