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features tender don and congress and bob. the key republicans on the medications and technology subcommittees. remarks by labor secretary alex, white house counsel in conway and others have been national association county legislative conference. an american legion, the american humanist association. ... c-span was graded as a public service by america's table television company and today we bring you unfiltered coverage of congress, the white house, the
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supreme court in public policy events in washington dc and around the country. c-span is brought to you by your cable or satellite provider. >> communicators is on capitol hill this week to talk with members of congress about issues such as 5g. autonomous cars, net neutrality and privacy. >> host: johnson, the recently said south dakota could be a leader in 5g also connect. >> guest: i think that we get a lot of progressive over thinking people in our state and realize the different technology can make in a rural state and little university in madison south dakota old dakota state university which is a leader in the cyber field training professionals now being snapped up by government intelligent agencies and other cyber fields. we got a mayor in sioux falls who is a tech entrepreneur who sees the value of 5g and has been doing everything he can to make it easier for companies to
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invest and try to partner with companies that would make that investment in south dakota and other communities around south dakota, you simply they are adopted in ordinance that cities good adopt and pass that basically lays out a template for if you want to attract 5g investment into your committee this is the best way to do if it is lowering barriers and making it easier not harder for companies to want to get involved in that business to do so in some communities in south dakota. part of it is the mindset of putting the right policies in place and having the leadership that recognizes the value of the benefit and economic dividends that come. >> given the world as a south dakota has broadband been built out to connect. >> not everywhere. i always tell people we have 4g or lte technology at some places
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in south dakota we have 3g or nothing. it varies geographically by state but there are a number of programs and resources that are made available to the rural cooperatives, telecom companies, independent companies that serve smaller companies in south dakota that have been able to access or enable them to make investment so you would be surprised as you go across south dakota how many places you have access to good internet service now and perhaps not the quality of service they have in the larger more public areas but that's one of the things were trying to share. that comes with leveraging out resources available at the federal level and having the mindset and leadership in the policy framework if you will in place that encourages people to
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make those investments. >> is there any left over remnant of the gateway corporation in south dakota? >> not a lot. gateway was a huge thing a couple decades ago and they had a significant footprint in our state with job there not so much anymore but that divulged in the needs are different demands are different but i think if you want to be a leader in that state you definitely have to have an eye for the future. if you look at 5g is a feature that is connected where people have access and fees are 100 times faster than they are today and people have captured that and realize just what a difference that can make and a magnet it can be for jobs and economic opportunity and activity in our communities as well. give our leaders the whole fact
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and now credit for looking to that future and see what they can make of that. >> what about 5g and healthcare in a rural state? >> again, it's something that 5g has enormous potential to benefit healthcare and release and we have three major systems classical that footprint i what and other states there are using those services today but if you move from 4g lte to 5g you are talking about lower end to end latency and the ability to do procedures and operations via that medium and whether you are a surgeon or someone treating a trauma patient in a remote area of south dakota if you get 5g working in a way that enables
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that type of medication to occur you will do great things. it has tremendous potential for healthcare delivery, especially in rural states where the geography you have to cover. >> to do timeout as commerce chair and get your source of committee? >> what happened was i decided to seek the majority whip position and our rules don't allow you to be the leader or the whip in a chair a major committee. i had two years left before i timed out on the committee but i chose to move over and take the whip job but i still am able to chair a subcommittee so i'll chair the telecom subcommittee and work with the chairman who is now chairman of commerce committee on these issues. i'm still very much interested in 5g and in spectrum availability and interested in autonomous vehicles and the things i started working on and it has the potential to be
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bipartisan commitment of this congress. i think both sides in the house and senate and the publicans and democrats realize you have to have a national data privacy standards or law that will protect people's personal information. >> do you see something in the hundred 16th? how do you envision yourself? >> big issues are going to be preemption states doing their own thing, california is a lot that goes into effect january 1 of 2020 which has people worried and other states moving in that space. if you want to avoid to comply with 50 different standards in different states it's important for congress to be heard on this. one of the issues in addition the preemption issue will be who has rulemaking authorities and is at the fcc or the state attorney general and there's a
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lot of discussion around that issue but i think if you can -- there are thorny issues but if you can navigate that to put together a package is balance is something we could legislate on. rightly, we need to. an issue the megan people care deeply about. i don't know where the house comes from on this. beaker pelosi represents california, 48 out of the 233 democrats and the house are from california. california has its own law. they want to keep their loss but i think it's the kind of example where you do need a national standard because otherwise you will have companies in the tech world have to with texas and florida in south dakota and who else and is important we have a national standard. >> senator, at the same time democrats seem to be i don't want to use the word angry but upset with the tech companies and the loss of privacy.
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>> that presents an opportunity. i think the democrats who traditionally have been more closely allied with silicon valley and tech companies are as outraged about these breaches as republicans are. i think it presents an opportunity to find a path forward, bipartisan effort that could lead to a major legislative encouragement and solve the problem the american people care deeply about and want to see congress act on. in the absence of that you will see state stepping in and doing their own thing. better solution long-term is for congress to be heard on important issue like this. >> you mentioned that they will look at atomic vehicles. have you written in one are there any cars in south dakota? south dakota would be a safe place to test it out, we had wide open spaces. i have ridden in the. it's remarkable technology. it is very unnerving to be driving out here on 395 allow
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the autonomous feature to kick in and be sitting there and seeing the car driving itself, speeding up, slowing down, changing lanes but that's what the technology is moving. the reason to do it is because we have 37000 -- 94% are which human error. if you take that human hair out of the equation we could save lots of lies. i'm excited about it and i think we need a regulatory framework here to put guardrails around the technology so it developed in a safe way and again another issue i think congress needs to be heard from on but the technology is moving forward and we better keep up with it or we will be left behind. >> president recently signed an executive order encouraging artificial intelligence push toward that and federal agencies. >> yeah, i think there's need new technologies and ai is one
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of them and it has the potential again to transform the way we live in a way that 5g will, too. when you look at the opportunities to advance in so many areas in artificial intelligence like every thing else is one of those things that have to be moved forward in a steady way and i think people over time will adapt or acclimate to get more comfortable with the technologies but the fact that the immigration recognizes this is where we are headed and the use of artificial intelligence and decision-making and crating more data and that sort of thing is going to be a good thing for all of us. >> cyber security, does it keep you awake at night? >> it does. it's a real concern. companies that are trying to get their chips into our 5g development and our investment is concerning because i think there are foreign countries and governments that have malign
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designs on this country and it presents a national security risk. i don't think there's any way around that and is something we have to be wary of an congressional level, the white house, federal agencies all need to work together along with private sector which in many cases is the best ideas about how to present those acts from occurring in the future and put strategies in places to prevent that. it's a very real threat and from a national security standpoint i remember when i was member of senate arms services committee it was the new form of warfare and lots of questions about what are the rules of engagement and was a proportionate response and if someone tries to attack us and you got these constant daily cyber attacks on our infrastructure how do we respond to that? those are questions our national
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security community is grappling with and need to be. these sets are real and the more information out there and the more data out there more people know about us and particularly some of our important national security secrets. >> final question. over the years sometimes it seems congress has been behind technology by a couple of years. >> i think so. it's hard to keep up with you people out there with smarts and even if you are trying to defeat the bad guys we have one issue that are committee that with that i'm interested in and have a bill this year with ed markey from massachusetts you have to do robo calls and these robo calls we get. it seems like every time you come up with a strategy or solution that can defeat the current way, the bad actors get a way around it because
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technology honestly changes people are looking for a way to see this and stop this. government has to do it again to anticipate what will happen next and not only will it be right but we need to be thinking like they do. i think that's why the government has hired more and more people understand and are very adept at adept at breaking down the codes used by the bad guys. >> he's a republican from south dakota and he is chair of the munication technology, innovation and internet subcommittee. thank you for your time on the makers. >> thank you, peter. always good to be with you the next representative bob of the energy and commerce committee, last time you were in the majority, what happened and how will that make a difference? >> we want to go and we want to
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make get those seats back but there are a lot of issues we can work with the democrats on an energy commerce committee. we can look forward -- >> what is one of those issues? >> rural broadband. it's important for our part of the country and across country because i have parts in my district that folks don't have access on broadband and it will affect everyone going to school and farmers and an agriculture that went into the farm bill last time but i want to make sure broadband is out there for all americans and make sure that what we just heard from the chairman of the fcc, chairman pai, and a 25% more people out there will be accessing
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higher-speed out there that you have to have. areas in my district where their people might want to have a business and can't because if you're not connected today you're not in business. i think that's something we can work together. i serve as the coach chair on the caucus we want to make sure it gets out there but we want everyone as soon as it possible. >> northeast ohio [inaudible] >> it's important because i represent it's an interesting thing. represent the largest farming producing -- in the state of ohio and manufacturing jobs. all the things, peter welch and i cochair a working group on the internet and we have to have the
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stuff out there people across the country. >> how buildout is her district? >> overall, [inaudible] we all commented on we know areas and so there are pockets that we need to get filled in so everyone can have it. it's essentially downtown toledo to a rural area of ohio and so some areas have great access. >> during the net neutrality debate did you hear from constituents on that issue? >> there is confusion as to what that neutrality is because we've introduced three pieces of legislation recently and i was introduced on the telus medication energy and commerce and what i did was reintroduced the democrat chairman bill several congresses ago and we
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don't have the paid prioritization that folks are able to make sure they don't have these issues and people don't understand where the democrats want to go in the former fcc chairman is to take us back to title to where it's taking us back to 1930 loss which is ma bell and we pass that. we don't want to have more government regulations out there. even when they say we had forbearance out there yet, that might be one fcc but we are looking for working together as democrats say let's pass let net neutrality litigation and get it in legislations you don't have this obligated question out in the future. >> i thought the letter you and other people sent to the democratic chairman and is that
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going to be something that will be looked at in the congress? >> that's what we want to have. former chairwoman [inaudible] his legislation in the fcc and making sure and catherine morris rogers bill comes from her legislator on net neutrality and signed into law through democratic legislation and by a democratic governor. you don't see anything about title to and so we want to make sure that is not in their but all of a sudden you have stifling government out there and we want to make sure they can go out and innovate. >> what have you heard back on? >> it's in the congress so we have extended the invitation and say let's sit down and work on
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this. >> why don't we talk about by the legislation and states are working on this individually like they have a net neutrality and is this something that you see in our future? >> i chaired the digital commerce consumer protection and we had multiple meetings on privacy and we can have states going out and doing 50 states coming up with this. it just won't work. we have to have a national standard and everyone out there understands california has a acted legislation the most people i talked to said we don't want that legislation to do what we will be living with. we have to the end of the year to get this thing done and had a privacy hearing already and so we have people from around the
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country coming to testify but we want to make sure american consumers protect and a standard out there that everyone knows what it is and is not a patchwork for everyone try to figure out is this correct or that correct and can you do this or can do that but have at national standard out there. this is one of the things we have to tell people. we need people at the table and a lot of times you will get one 100% but we need to come together and sit down and say this is where we go because again we have to have a standard out there nationally. >> are we moving in the direction of europe and gdp are? >> probably running into gdp are is there's a lot of problems. first of all, that is europe across the united states. at the same time in the testimony today i even asked one of the witnesses that what
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happens if criminals out there, bad actors, they can disappear and it's like folks we just can't do that. when you look at what happened with the gdp are we have a situation where we will be able to say smaller individuals will drive but it's the reverse. it is hurting the smaller folks out there across europe and so in the united states you want to make sure everybody not just the big guy. >> one of the issues in this area has talked about antitrust, the facebook's, et cetera and what are your views on that? >> when you work explicitly with what is happening with dvr and european law and how they come
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up and we want to establish our privately what we do and you will find out what they've done in europe they have gone too far and especially when you can't find a bad guy, bad actor of their how do you catch them and say to law enforcement, we can't help you. >> congressman, it's been several months since mark tucker burke testified on capitol hill so what are your views on facebook in general and in the testimony and will be back in. >> it's important that he spent five hours in committee and in our community intersection so one company out there we have to have transparency and people understand what impact they are
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doing and a lot of folks at the great majority of people and how that affects your privacy and the testimony you heard [inaudible] big thing you want to do out there is have people know the rules of the road are in their they can be protected. if they don't want that they can get out. it's important that as we go forward again and to protect the consumer. >> two final areas i want to talk to you about. number one is murders. sprint t-mobile is still on the board and i don't know the congress has a role but do you have an opinion? >> we recently have that hearing on the merger and i pointed out i believe the rank on the floor
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committee also pointed out we don't have a say in it. went back to the regulators. regulators have to make that decision as to what will be best for the consumer and my committee last time was digital commerce and protection and now it's consumer protection commerce. there's this trend here that if were looking at what we can do to make the consumer is protected and they know what is going on. it's back and never has let the court of the regulator but we have to see where they go from there. >> what are your views of -- >> again, it's important that will this be of benefit to the consumer and services when regulators go forward as they
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move forward and say okay, is a something that will benefit and they go on to say it's a bad idea and will have a role. >> feature of autonomous cars. >> autonomous cars, i worked on that and we had great cooperation and i chaired the subcommittee and i had a wonderful cooperation on both sides of the aisle and staff told me over 300 meetings that we did on autonomous self timing vehicles unless congress but what we were able to do and that is we were seeing a trend where steps are going up and over 37000 traffic accidents and a trend going in the other direction. people are driving today. when you look at we want to make sure safety comes first, safety first, safety last, safety
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always. we also want to make sure technology developing we don't want to say they're imported from china or somewhere else on the world but we can do it here in the united states. at the same time you look at the benefits of preventing accidents but folks out there who are visually impaired like my mother. she had a condition that she gave up her driver's license when i got my drivers license. she was dependent on family member to get -- folks out there with a disability and look at senior citizens who say it's time to give up my car and they might not have mobile access from a cab two of us and they don't give them that benefit but remain -- we got close to the end and the bill patched out 54-nothing and pass on the floor
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by a voice vote, something the cyclical to pass out of the house of representatives on a voice vote went over to the senate and up to the 12th hour of the last congress but could not get it over the line with them fearful was the concern? >> multiple things multiple individuals and senate operates different than the house. i want to start working on this because it's important for the community out there but for the safety and disabled and senior citizens in making sure we want to get over to the senate and get this thing pass. it will be a great boost for boom out there for safety and for all the reasons i mentioned that will help in the driving
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committee. >> republican of ohio, mentored member of the energy and commerce committee. ranking member on the tech subcommittee. >> appreciate it. >> c-span where history unfolds daily. in 1979 c-span was created as a public service by america's table television companies and today we continue to bring you unsettled coverage of congress, the white house, the supreme court in public policy events in washington dc and around the country. c-span is brought to you for your cable or satellite provider. >> coming up today on c-span2 remarks by labor secretary alex acosta, white house counselor kellyanne conway and others at the national association of counties legislative conference.
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