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or join the conversation on facebook.com/cspan. joining us for the conversation this morning is cliff young, >> joining us for the conversation of public affairs president so let's talk about usa today headlines. americans support nafta overall but not a return to the moon. look at the firstt part 78 percent of those surveyed have a favorable view towards nasa will need the rest
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unfavorable? >> lee did a poll the last couple weeks with a verepresentative of the population put out 20 questions but a lot of good nuggets are in there but the real conundrum is on the one hand they really value in support space exploration but 70 percent they see that as a public good in space and support government intervention there and we don't have support that way but nasa should be involved in space and on the flipside but not to go to the moon or even mars or even long distance unmanned exploration it is about being close to earth
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what helps our existence on the planet like to monitor weather patterns so on the one hand we have been there done that. not so interested in mars. 52 percent support actually using space to better our lives on earth. >> what about the 8 percent this is a number that usa today highlights saying it should not be a top priority for nasa and the administration has said we are going back by 2024. >> they are not aligned with public opinion. as i said before they have already said we have done that spacehen exploration is super important with broad-based support that we want nasa and the american government to use space to help our life here on earth with more bread-and-butter issues monitor climactic change, weather clpatterns, reinforce national
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security. is much as using space. >> look at the top three responses to that question. what should the united states be doing in space? monitoring earth's environment and with conducting and they are not interested in going to the moon or to mars as much as using space once again to better our lives on earth. >> and what about climate change as the environment? >> i think americans generally is a variable meaning. i took it specifically that to
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help us understand and monitor to anticipate climactic changes but i wouldn't say that is a necessary link to climate change.no c that's i'm asking you to call in with your priorities for state policy. >> and to show you again the bottom three responses unmanned exploration of the solar system unmanned mission so how do you ask this question? >> first and foremost we were surprised by those results. american and then to help the better the lives here on earth.
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we had ten or 12 different priorities and then before we structured? so now we are ranking that question to get the priority teeseven. >> bad nasa administrator will also be our newsmaker guest this sunday is one that will air he will sit down with us tot talk about nasa's priorities. talking about the 2020 budget and their work listen to what they had to say. >> things arere shifting. i will tell you we submitted the budget request about three weeks ago and in that budget request there is a very new direction for our country.
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the president has issued space policy number one and go back to the ramones a go forward to the moon so how we will do it is unlike anything ever done before we are not going to leave flags and footprints in the not go back another 50 years but this timean we go in the president said sustainably in other words we will stay. but he says go to the moo moon, international partners to have a a coalition and with commercial partners to utilize the resources. but then we would retire risk and prove technology to have a mission to mars. that is the agenda is continuing to advance the
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commercializatio commercialization. now see resupply of the iss is very successful and we in the midst. >> i'm sure you saw them docked to the iss a few weeks ago. eventually by the end of this year we will launch american astronauts and rockets to the international space station since the first time of the retirement since 2011. this is something we are looking forward to but that is commercial. we have already completed resupply everyone to get to commercialization of human habitats. all of this for the point that we think it is important and this committee has double dow
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down, nasa should be one customer of many in a robust commercial lower marketplace. including launch, habitation and those that compete on cost and innovation. the reason is to drive down cost and increase access and utilize the resources given to us by this body to join sustainably with our. >> sunday tam here on c-span you can watch or listen along on the radio at. nasa administrator making headlines this morning with white house anger over looking at removal of the nasa official it was the head of
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human exploration late wednesday that the as they are frustrated and now we are asking you to tell us your priorities as we look at a new poll. first collar go ahead. what are your priorities? >> let's go to mars and start a colony in case there is a mass extinction there is surviving the human race. >>caller: good morning i cannot believe it shows how stupid the american people are. we have to go back to the moon because aren't we going to another section somewhere that we have not gone and also try to mind and do different things.
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china and india are going up there as well. and the second priority in international mission to mars to include the european space wency and japan and canada i believe that would bring the world closer together that would bring a tremendous amount of technology and science would make like cell phones and we need to do those things it is ridiculous and what we know generally is americans that space exploration is essential
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encourage math and science among young people they believe that specifically and more generally it is much better to think that they should do it with other countries and in cooperation. and then those priorities are lagging indicators perk right now americans are not inor favor only 8 percent relative to other priorities like monitoring those weather patterns on earth. not to say a president who framed some objective cannot change those priorities but today space exploration is as
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essential and collaborative in nature those that believe it should be safe as a protected willingness. but their concern for concerns on earth and more than. but once again that can change. >> and at all cost money. ifwhou you ask a question about nasa's budget, look what you found out. if you ask at two.five to say yes. yes. that sounds right. and when it breaks down to be $70 per american and then to
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say that's the right amount that we framed it generally if youth give it 21.5 billion or a certain percentage of the national budget but overall bc for the most part americans are in favor of what is spent an hour even more but people sayil 20.5 billion is a lot but maybe we should spend more. >> what about too much or too little? >> so more specifically if you take not spending enough but inen vast majority of americans are in favor but
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putting it into 41 percent think we are too little. >> the overall messages and then to be more in favor. >> is that worth the cost? is the benefit worth it? and make a big chunk thinks it is worth it. >> now i met the theme level but only 14 percent are in favor of but now nasa and
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government has the key goal to push this agenda. >> taking a look at the courage. the purple line to you is dollars. look at how the budget went up in the sixties and how it has gone down and up but on the way back up in our current year. so how americans and how your government has viewed nasa over the decades. so one of the questions good luck. >> hello. my name is if we have money to go to the moon but not for a wall?
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why not invest in gml and free though one - - feed the world why we figure out how to feed the world clicks but our allies want to go to the moon. let them go to the moon we get the technology from them. withalways shared it them. am yes. i am opposed. the billions that have been spent for the space program. to me it is the new version of the military-industrial complex and already have the pentagon licking their chops right now over but what we have here is a another with
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those that profit from it but it isn't licensed to corporations but given to them. but with the same but that military-industrial complex is the same character between putting more pumper one --dash pumping more money into the space program so the majority of americans are in favor spending public money on space exploration. obviously, there is a new once we can talk about but there is broad base of for it on the one hand and specific funding for nasa on the other. >> talk about privatization.
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would you ask about it how did you ask? >> in a couple different ways. i do agree or but then to be and thenpu not raising the price but that agenda that should be push by the government. >> if you ask republicans and democrats about privatization what did you think of those numbers quick. >> once again but obviously
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democrats are lesse in favor and republicans are more so. that very much aligned with the way w that those all issues related to the government with much more orientated. and it'srn not surprising. >> did you find 47 percent disagree so with the initial points i was making states across party lines is seen as as a natural asset that should be curated and taken advantage
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of in collaboration with other governments is higher than we would have thought because of those delivering one --dash. >> and just the senate commerce committee and to talk about how nasa can and should privatize some of the operations and went to show them and get. >> they should have competitively chosen funded space agreements with commercial partners willing to put up capital at their own risk. that leverage plus ongoing will replace any need for micromanagement and bureaucracy of contracts.
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and with the strategic program risk. none of this is easy commercializing is hard human travel to the moon is hard mars would be harder still with even greater rewards as they explore a different planet and the moon's but ready to help nasa char and affordable and sustainable path into the future. that what we can do tomorrow to have a true partnership including congress and the american people teeseven back to the conversation with all of you teresa good morning. >>caller: good morning.
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is just another way for donald trump to get hooked up with putin and i disagree with that i think he should be shunned all the b way and with climate change to invest the money here instead of giving out to the rich folks and their tax breaks. >> miami florida good morning. >>caller: hello? i have a quick question about the framing of the question because constantly regarding the money we are spending so how do you explain to people we should be spending more on space than weapons? >> that is a great question.
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first americans of the national budget discretionary and nondiscretionary. it is the hard things to ask questions we do not juxtapose between defense versus space in favor of the amount being spent, 20 $1.5 billion or less than 1% of the national budget and what we saw, as i was saying before, people are more in favor of spending the same or more if we put it into percent versus total dollars. that said, it would have been interesting if we had juxtaposed it vis-a-vis the defense budget, but we did not do that. host: john in alabama. caller: good morning, how are you doing? host: good morning.
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what are your priorities for space? caller: my priorities for space are definitely exploration. my comment was what many people don't understand is if we let other countries go to outer space without us, it diminishes our technological edge in the world and leaves the united states at risk of losing our edge in economy. going to outer space gives us an overall edge and helps the health of our citizens is basically what i wanted to say. aboutwhen you asked folks space exploration, you ask them several questions, allow scientific and technological discoveries, encourages young people. why did you ask those types of questions? guest: we wanted to get a granular and more qualitative understanding of -- idea of people's understanding of space. i made this point a few times,
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broad support for space exploration, understanding that it contributes significantly to technological discoveries, it encourages rod-based, wide based believe it encourages math and science study among young people, students, young students. americans are not against space exploration. it is an issue of what are the priorities? basically today are using space exploration to better our lives on earth, less about going to the moon or mars. that said, they are very much in favor of not going it alone. they would rather we work with other countries. they believe not only does it enhance peace and cooperation, but the best way to advance the space exploration agenda is working with other countries. host: take a look at the numbers when the c-span ipsos paul asked
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those surveyed if they agreed space exploration allows scientific and technological discoveries, 80% agreed with that statement. is, it allows -- 63% said it a means to understand climate change. 66% said contributes to science resulting in advances to health care. of say improve understanding the human body. host: we are trying to get an understanding from a qualitative perspective how much americans value space exploration and that says it all. there is broad-based majority or even super majority support for what is being done. they see the benefits. should be ina space, they should not go it alone, space is a public good and it should be a collaborative effort with other countries and not a singular effort, which is super interesting because we are celebrating the 50th anniversary
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of the moon landing and the moon landing really was about american exceptionalism, beating out the russians in the space race and the space race in general. it is burned into our memories and our imagination and it was really about going it alone, showing the world we were number one, that democracy would triumph over communism, et cetera. america sees space much more as a collaborative effort, much more so than 50 years ago. host: usa today notes the pole in the six -- 1960's versus the pole where 8% of americans say a man to moon mission should be a priority at a gallup poll in 1965 found 39% of americans said united states should do everything possible regardless of cost to be the first nation on the moon. guest: yeah.
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a leading orinion lagging indicator? should leaders set the agenda or follow public opinion, very interesting data point. what we know specifically looking at the polls across the board at the time, it was very much linked to the notion of american exceptionalism and a key sort of symbolic event when it came to the race against russia. host: we are asking all of you to tell us what your space priorities are this morning. eastern-central part of the country, 202-748-8000. mountain, -- mountain-pacific, 202-748-8001. on this idea of going back to the moon, apollo 11 flight director jean krantz was testifying this week and this is what he had to say about the future of u.s. space policy, want to get our viewers to react
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to this. [video clip] >> for the past several weeks i have done dozens of interviews. many reporters have questioned should be go back to the moon? should we go to mars directly and skip the moon? can we do it again and why haven't we done it already? all good questions. should we go back to the moon, the answer is yes, no question. thee are opportunities lindner industry would provide .ur industry my answer, can we do it again and why haven't we done it already is much more complex. that is why i am here today, to offer some perspective based on my experience as a leader of one of the spaceflight teams which accomplished president kennedy's 1961 mandate to land an american on the moon and return him safely to earth. the 1960's were not dissimilar
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to where the nation is today. president kennedy faced a confident soviet union and a sleeping giant in the people's republic of china. we are at the beginning of the vietnam war and the domestic turmoil over civil rights is building. goal was timely and masterful and utilizing the challenge of space exploration to unify our nation and demonstrate the technical capabilities of the united states. today we have many of the same issues although one critical and important element is missing. kennedy's mandate was the impetus, but there was a national unity that assured our success. i believe today in our country, unity is necessary for great efforts and is lacking within our country, our government, and the space industry. we have an administration that is strongly supportive and willing to provide the resources. we have an agency charted to do the mission, top-level
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leadership in place and a very capable workforce, but each of these segments are philosophically divided on the goal. there is infinitely more technological capability than in the early programs, but there is a lack of focus and prioritization. i believe the general support for space and a desire to see our nation continue -- will continue, but without unity, the space exploration program will be grounded. host: what do you make of the last part, without unity? when you think about the pole ipsosn this boss -- thi did? guest: super majority support, we rarely see that today. it is highly polarized. we have very few symbols in the united states right now that unify and rather, most of them divide.
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50 years ago, the landing of the moon and the effort it took to challenge jfk -- the challenge jfk put forward to america during the heart of the cold war thesee unifying event images are burned in our minds when we saw them specifically the day of. maybe that is what america needs today. on mark -- most issues, democrats are going to divide highly partisan tribal huge differences. this could be the unifying agenda. there are elements in the pole that suggest it could be again. host: one of the overarching themes of the pole shows up when you ask surveyors about their attitudes toward nasa.
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78% of a favorable view of this agency. we are asking all of you to tell us what your priorities are. danny in maryland, good morning. go ahead. caller: i think if we are going .o go, we should go bold let's build a permanent space and let's have c-span put an office up there and the host can rotate every couple months from space. you could float around with your coffee, that would be cool. move on.will david in michigan. caller: thank you very much for taking my call. i am very much in favor of unlimited budget. as long as they explore the one-way travel, line up all the
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republicans, put them in a spaceship, send them into space and leave them there forever. what a beautiful america we would have with no republicans. host: you did ask people if they are willing to travel to space. guest: without a doubt. host: what did you find out? guest: we found a significant chunk of americans, 31% would love to travel there. that includes me, i would take my whole family if i could for spring break. pedro, byhost: and the way. guest: your background instead of the capital, it could be earth -- that would be cool. 31% of americans interested in space travel. host: millenials, 40% said they would. gen x, 43%. guest: it is for the young. boomers want to stay close to home. i think the young are
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adventurous and they want to go to space. a third of americans would love to travel to space. let's go to john in new jersey. caller: my comment is they have people like elon musk -- hello? host: we are listening. musk went ahead and teslais rocket with his car and rich millionaires should .e allowed to go out of state i don't think nasa has the stomach to go to places like mars or any other place because thatrely on old technology we should be investing and more -- in a up-to-date rockets like elon musk had.
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if you send up a politician, i have one in the white house we can send also and his family. a lot of partisan talk, setting up half the united states and our current president. americans are not in favor of space exploration being the -- that is not to say they don't believe there should be a -- they still believe this is an agenda to be driven by the government, that it is a public good. 52% of americans believe space should be a protected wilderness. humanity orurce for two humanity and they don't want to have the private sector being the sole entity responsible for space exploration.
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host: elon musk's name coming up when you think of space. who are the astronauts or people who have top name recognition and what about these billionaires like elon musk and jeff bezos and their attempts to get to space? guest: i wonder if he has seen our pole. basically ask a series of questions on familiarity with astronauts and non-astronauts and individuals linked to space exploration. number 1 and 2 are neil armstrong and buzz aldrin. less known, mark kelly, a more recent astronaut superstar. all fairly well known, but especially that first moonwalk burned into the american imagination. 52%. at 57% and musk at
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cognitively,st that cognitive map americans are, cognitive figures there front and center. host: you mentioned privatization versus government involvement. the trump administration wants to get back by 2024. this initiative to create a space force. i want to show our viewers what the president had to say in february announcing this directive to create a u.s. space force. [video clip] >> america must be fully equipped to protect our vital interests. undermine our security and space and they are working hard at that. that is why my administration recognized space as a war fighting campaign and made the creation of the space force a security. i think we will have great support from congress because
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they supporting -- they support one where we are talking about such importance and a lot of the generals and people involved speaking to congress and we have very interesting dialogue going on. we are investing in new space capabilities to project military powers, especially when it comes to safety and defense. -- develop a legislative proposal that will establish the structure and authority of the space force as the sixth branch of the government armed forces. saucein the new c-span if poll, we asked people if they support space force. 30% had no opinion. what do you make of this result? guest: it is not front and center. it is being talked about on a policy level among elites and
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people in the beltway, but it is not front and center and we will see the data, there is a difference in support among democrats and republicans. republicans being much more likely to support defense-related issues. even though it is low familiarity, not well known or familiar, national security is the number two priority for americans when it comes to space exploration. it is front and center as a priority. space force more specifically is not on the radar. people are more worried about bread-and-butter issues. it is not something they paid attention to. who like thiss idea if they sell it as a national priority -- they see it as a concern,
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but they are not paying attention to it right now. host: your priorities for space policy? caller: number 1 -- good morning, greta. i am a long time caller since the beginning and i love your program. it is the best thing that has happened in communications. we thinky number 1 -- of ourselves as visionaries. we are totally off base. we are not thinking out far enough. what people don't realize is from what we know now, our planet is going to be soaking up the sun and we will become stardust unless we get off this planet, the human species is not going to survive. as far as climate change goes, it is going on forever and the only way we have been able to survive is to adapt and i think
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that is where we should be spending our money, not on trying to cool the planet down. i would like to see what your guest thinks about my comments about the number one priority. guest: that is an interesting point. i don't know what the timestamp is on being sucked into the sun. i think it is a billion years. people see the priorities for space exploration being closer to earth. i am not saying that is right or wrong. they see it, broadly speaking, as important for scientific and technological discoveries, education, et cetera. about the priority is closer to earth today rather than long-term distant space exploration. host: john in franklin, tennessee. you are next.
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caller: can you hear me ok? host: we can. wants to go too the moon, i think he could play enough money to go to the moon playing poker. he has the world's greatest poker face. i am a child of the 1960's and a psychologist. i have noticed always the exception in our international relations with russia around space. at times get hot and times get cool, but we continue to cooperate a lot -- about that and that meet -- that leads me to believe a lot of ways to solve our tension would be to expand the space program to include china and other countries so we all have our values aligned and we are rooting for the same people in space. it kind of representatives of our planet. the second thing. i was in school during those years and one of the things that
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happened was a tremendous emphasis on basic science education and i can tell you being a little kid in those rooms, it was exciting. science is a mystery and unfolded and to this day, it is a big part of my life. go ahead with your last point and then i will ask my question. caller: thank you, greta. the last thing i was going to say is i am not a big fan of commercialization. i think we have made a mess of things here on earth. you have heard the metaphor many times about space -- spaceship earth, how we are a self-contained environmental system and we have not taken good care as a group. it has been kind of every man for himself and i would hate to see that extended out into space with some of the same consequences we have had here on earth. caller: you said you are a child of the 1960's. let me ask you a question the
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polln if sauce -- ipsos cast. did you ever consider being asked to not? being you ever consider an astronaut? we lost him. we are not going to get the answer to that. i am assuming he is a boomer, so 18%. i am sure it was much higher back in the day, but they have gotten on with their lives and grown older and forgotten about childhood aspirations. 23% of americans at one time or another thought about becoming an astronaut. is an age thing. i think it is much less generation and much more age. being an astronaut and going to space -- we look at the stars and most americans have seen one
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sort of cosmic phenomenon or .nother such as a solar eclipse we aspire and imagine going into space and as we get older, we go to school and graduate and get jobs. we have kids. we forget our childhood aspirations and dreams. host: floyd in jonesville, virginia. good morning to you. caller: thank you for taking my call. i think we need bigger and better satellites than the enemy has got. it was be -- it would be good to be ahead of them on that. something i heard brought up yesterday is ufos. they call them ufos, but they are identified in the bible in ezekiel, chapter one. ezekiel identified them. they are vehicles the angels travel in. angels don't have wings on their back, they have those vehicles
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to travel in. 1-800-613-4645 and order the bible. guest: 54% of americans believe in aliens and 29% believe they visit earth. i think he is in the majority believing aliens exist -- that is what our policy as. caller: how did you just -- host: how did you decide what questions to ask? who did you consult with? guest: with c-span. we went over the polls that had been done on the issue of space over the last 30 years or so. we did an initial analysis, sort of a discovery phase. we have done some of this in the past and came together with a compilation of those things we thought were essential to understand space exploration and also interesting.
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host: let's go to felix in michigan. caller: good morning. i agree with most americans in viewing space exploration as a collaborative effort. i also believe this should not be limited to the wealthiest nations and funds should be given to third world world nations to develop their space programs and the human race should have represented of's from every continent on space in the iss and other endeavors. what are your thoughts on that? guest: i think your attitudes obviously,anular, but most americans are in favor of cooperation when it comes to space exploration. the specifics of the flavor of it, we did not ask specifically, but at a 30,000 foot level, your attitudes are pretty much aligned with what people think. host: go to vermont, jason is watching. your priorities for space. caller: thank you, greta, for
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taking my call. i just think with the amount of money this country spends on taxes and revenue collected, i heard the other day 1% of our budget is given away to other countries and nasa gets less than half a cent per penny on the dollar. when you look back 50 years ago, the inventions we still used today ranging from miniature phone,batteries, miniaturized everything, basically, space blankets, the inventions go on and on and i just think the overall attitude of this country is down and something like that could possibly bring us together like it did in the 1960's. host: let's hear from richard in grove city, ohio. 76 years oldlike and i have been an advocate of the space program for decades. the most disappointing thing to me is when they got rid of the
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saturn five. the next thing we ended up knowing was nothing was really happening for the most part in the next 50 years. it is like we stopped growing and stuff like that. i kind of shifted my focus and started making investments in private companies in the space industry and stuff like that and i think that is the way to go. somebody like elon musk is a visionary and the problem with the u.s. government's policy is every time you change administrations, for crying out upd, the next thing you end knowing is one administration does not want to follow so you have inconsistency of programming desires. it is hard to believe 50 years later we still cannot decide whether we want to go to mars or the moon. host: when you make these investments in these companies
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-- caller: airlines that fly around the world now, for crying out loud. when an airplane goes down in the middle of the indian ocean or something, now they know where it went down, for crying out loud. companies, ar joint american canadian company and stuff like that, apparently they have a contract to build the shuttle that is supposed to go from the earth to the moon and use solar electric propulsion, i guess. when it comes to propulsion, that is the key to getting farther in space and i think it is long overdue.
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why don't we have nuclear why don't we have nuclear rockets anymore? -- was already thinking about nuclear propulsion on the top of the saturn five rocket. anyway, yes, i like the interchange between nasa and the private companies because taxpayers don't necessarily want to pay the money. host: what do you make of it? i think americans are in agreement that there should be a robust space exploration agenda. it should be cooperative in nature. on the one hand with other countries which you can pull resources. on the other hand with the private sector. that said, they still see space as a public good and that there is definitely a role for the government and it should be central. host: jim from illinois, good morning. caller: i just wanted to say thank you for bringing up this
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issue on c-span and i think it ofnoteworthy that instead asking to have people identify themselves by their political that asion, c-span sees really not being relevant to this discussion. that is because space is still, by and large, a very bipartisan issue, which something that is a real rarity in this day and age. from my perspective going forward, i would like to see more along a path that supports the commercialization of space. most of the advancements we have had are a direct consequence of the commercial opportunities that have presented themselves, particularly with regard to remote sensing.
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if you go to the website for the united nations committee on the peaceful uses of the united states -- outerspace, they go through a long list of the ways in which everyone on planet earth is benefiting from space technology and giving the budgetary pressures on nasa and the numerous studies that have found that when nasa procures items commercially rather than developing them in-house, they save substantially from a budget point of view and windows same items are procured in the commercial marketplace, that actually builds us a stronger economy in that area because the products are then available for other businesses to purchase. host: cliff young, any thoughts? guest: again, a lot of what he
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is saying resonates, but americans see space as a public good. there is a role of government. the most credible actor right now is nasa, but the polls say there should be a broad collaboration with other countries and the private sector. host: a headline in the washington times, even 50 years later, lunar landing skeptics plague nasa. suspicions arose even as the lunar landing was taking place. conspiracy theorists said it was an elaborate hollywood style production created on a soundstage on earth. the polls have consistently shown 5 percent to 6% of americans believe the moon landing was faked. 6%.t: our poll showed it is small in terms of percentages, but volume, 20
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million plus americans that don't believe the lunar landing took place. host: take a look at it when you break it down by age. 15 to 34-year-old said 9% of them thought it was fake. it goes5 to 49, 11% and back down if you ask 50-year-olds to 64-year-old and over 65, 2%. guest: it is all about proximity. the vast majority of americans believe in the lunar landing. for them, that is fact, not fiction. there is an age relationship. individuals, americans who are younger are not as proximate. they did not live through it or have their parents talk about it. with my parents talking about the landing, i have a picture of from thesigned picture moon of earth at my house. the younger you are, the less likely you are to have that experience. the vast majority of americans
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believe the lunar landing did happen. host: what did you find out if you asked people if they watched the apollo 11 moon landing? guest: that is interesting. going back and callers have been talking about -- either richard jason talk about space exploration being one of the few unifying binding events or things, especially the lunar landing specifically. it is the opinion me of the ultimate example of american exceptionalism in the heart of the cold war. as proximity is decreasing baby boomers die off. younger people enter the adult population, our proximity has increased. 91% of 65+ or baby boomers have watched the date of the lunar landing.
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69% of millennials and really .eflecting on this point at least in my mind, lived through it -- that image is burned in my memory, my imagination. younger people don't have that experience or proximity. i think that is telling for a polarized travel world we live in today. we don't have those symbols that unite and bind. host: for folks who want to learn more about the apollo 11 lunar landing, c-span will be focusing on it next weekend on book tv and history tv. you can go to our website for more information. remi in texas. good morning. caller: good morning. i agree with the woman from michigan who said that we could better use that money for
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infrastructure to help our own country first. donald trump said he was going to give a break to the middle class, he never did. he just want -- i believe that money could be better spent on a lot of things down here. the deficit needs to be paid -- at least what we owe on the deficit and i disagree with all not going to help the american people. host: let me just end by asking you, if you are a lawmaker and the administration, what should you be paying attention to in these results? guest: if you have a space agenda, and they do, i would be excited and i would be encouraged by how americans value space exploration. i am a professional pollster. i always think public opinion is
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the most important thing. what i can say and do believe probably his mark when it comes to the agenda, it is probably more of a lagging indicator rather than a leading indicator. us topace can do for bring america along. there is a lot of support for space exploration, which is good for any sort of space agenda. host: if you want to learn more about the c-span pole, go to c-span.org. at the very top right hand corner there is a rotating box. click on that and you can find more about the pole.
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