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heavily on the very impacted communities but these laws are designed to protect. to this channel challenge denials of their fundamental right to vote. and so, it is very clear that that is simply not tenable. it's not working and congress has the opportunity right now before it with hr for tampa limit federal her name protections to place the burden where it should be on the pacs of the government agencies that are seeking to implement new restrictive running changes that show that they are not discriminatory. >> that i think you all can represent of the time. thank you all for being here and i thank you for your testimony. is much. >> the other hand i think has arrived yet. right. okay. they're on their way over. thank you all again very very much. [background sounds]
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t-mac i'm glad you are here so we can get started. since your last panel, we know you are going to bring it so we can wrap this up and close up strong. that may introduce our panelists. we have john yang, president and executive director of asian americans advancing justice. mr. yang leads the organization his to fight asian americans to create just america for all through public policy advocacy education litigation. his extensive legal background
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enables advancing justice to address the study all season programs legislative attempts to discriminate against and marginalize asian americans and pacific islanders and other minority communities. mr. vargas is the chief executive officer latino and elected officials. a nation a membership organization of latina policymakers and their supporters, governed by a 35 member board of directors. this vargas also serves is ceo and educational, and affiliated national nonprofit organization strengthens american democracy by promoting full participation of latinos in pacific life. mr. son. is the president and general counsel of the mexican american legal defense fund legal defense and educational fund. a lease the rights organizations offices in pursuing litigation
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and policy advocacy and community ed education to promote civil rights latinos leaving in the united states. mr. son has rejoined modicon august of 2009 after spending four years of counsel to the mayor of los angeles. mr. stein has previously spent 12 years at on a practicing civil rights law. what was her. not least michelle bishop, she is the disability advocacy specialist for voting rights of the national disability rights network. she is responsible for coordinating voting rights to initiatives in every u.s. state district and territory, as well is providing training and technical as well as providing training and technical assistance to mdr nationwide network regarding voting rights and access for voters with disabilities under thevo help of america vote act. ms. bishop also works in coalition with the civil rights community in washington, d.c. to ensure strong federal policy regarding votingin rights and election administration. i thank you all for being here.
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as you know the lighting system issues, when to begin speaking the green light will come on, you will have five minutes. at one minute remaining you will see the yellow light come on and thenen you'll see the red light which will indicate you need to try to wrap up your testimony. mr. yang, you are recognized for five minutes. >> thank you very much, chair fudge. let me first start offering my condolences for the loss of representative cummings. mr. cummings was a champion for so many of our issues and his loss is going to be a loss not just for this congress but for the entire nation. really l appreciate having, inviting us to testify hitter on language access and importance of this to asian americans in particular. while the voting rights act of 1865 has been, it helps to ensure language access and
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assistance to asian americans. it is only one piece of the puzzle that we need to look at when making sure that asians americans are represented. it's important to start off by recognizing the asian american community. the asian american community is the fastest growing community and the united states. between the 2000 the signal census and 2010 the sanyo census the asian american community has grown by 46%. today we represent about 22.6 million in the united states which is a little over 6% of the american population. e also increased dramatically numbers over the years. doing the 2012 election in 2016 election, then increase by over 1 million voters. it is also important to know that asian americans are not monolithic. certainly there are numerous asian americans in urban centers throughout the country. our fastest growing populations are in nevada and arizona in
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north carolina and georgia. so the needs of asian americans often times are very diverse. with prospective language access, we represent over a hundred different languages from 60 different asian human cities. ensuring that that asian americans have information in the language that they understand best is always a challenge. and i personally language minority voters, are often denied much of the need it federally required assistance at the public loophole and faced numerous barriers at the polls. first, problems can arise when all workers do not fully understand the voting rights laws. poll workers often times unfortunately been hostile to their own backgrounds or have language issues. we do look at things the asian-american voters voters have, they are challenged with respect to their identification.
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both of they are a citizen or both of they belong in the polls. i will be relatively brief. i just offer some recommendations with some respect with what can be done with the language assistance. with respect to language assistance, what i think we can do is to make sure to translate materials are available. effective in conducting a comprehensive review election materials to make sure that they really had to fight materials to go to the need it communities. w certified translators and the use certified translation members to make sure the translations are community oriented and using community-based organization as well. to assure that they speak in language not only legal language that is appropriate in a community-based language and culture that is appropriate. with respect to the actual pulse, taking protections that are necessary, one of the things
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also is making sure that you have assistance on section 28 of the voters right act to ensure that people are allowed their choice. now election officials should provide bilingual all workers with separate training. in a language assistance. so what should be done in their wishes but regardless both of the jurisdictions are covered, every poll worker should be trained to understand the needs of the language minority butter. have a poll worker can best assess that voter. and having 80 role-playing exercise to ensure english-speaking workers as well is the language coworkers can provide assistance and the per the know how to handle situations and other rights. in the election assistance commission can provide a role in that. providing perhaps an educational infrastructure that would allow for best practices. to provide some of these exercises that i described. certainly jurisdictions have
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also on a military base is provided languages this is provides translated materials. we seen that in fairfax county even though technically it was hard covered by section two oh three, they decided to offer language assistance to both korean speaking population that fell short of it as well is providing it to vietnamese population. these are things can get on a basis but certainly are very effective for our communities. it is a fast growing community. community that is going to be transitioning to u.s. born asian americans in a relatively short matter of time. it would also translate into more voters and people that want to be engaged in electoral process. i would ask this committee to consider all the different ways in which that language assistance can be provided. thank you very much. >> thank you.
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your recognize repugnance. thank you. thank you for the opportunity to be here today and we join in the morning and passing of representative cummings. disorganization recognizes that in despite the guarantees that all of the americas was at the same rights. our nation has not yet been the goal of democracy. in the past the present policies have been adopted that disenfranchised and are represented voters. [inaudible conversation] fully important grantor of latino voters equal access to the ballot. substantial number of latinos eligible to vote, are not yet fully fluent in english and their ability to cast an informed successful vote. in a heap is on their access to understandable materials and to persons providing assistance with him they can communicate. according to 2018 acs, when your
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data, nearly 22 million citizens speak spanish and approximately 6.3 million of them are not fluent in english. markets are not yet fluent in english register and vote in lower rates because of the legacy of monday decades of intentional efforts to exclude voters on the basis of their proceeding of national origin is ongoing negligence and searing administering language assistance, and inattention to discouraging if facts of some election administration procedures. off of millions of potential latino voters enjoy the presumed access to multi lingual information or materials, monday are still indisputably underserved. just during the 2018 election cycle, reports to the election protection coalition hotline, including our frontline which received calls from voters in english and spanish including
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incidences of spanish-speaking voters in jurisdictions with large speaking populations including in southern californ california, that they were not able to request or to spanish-language ballots and significant number of our colors had unmet need for language assistance and live in location in warren county, new jersey, and virginia. monday jurisdictions have implemented methods of identifying potentially ineligible voters among those registered which disproportionately inhibit language minority voters participations in elections for example, since 2010 a number of states have compared voter registration list to information in those states and federal databases that are not designed or useful for voting purposes. and they have erroneously singled out voters we're mostly naturalized citizens for purging our demands for documentations. the nation polling place
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closures, and read alignment also threatens language minority voters participation. to accommodate these trends, members of congress should mandate the use of inclusive administrative practices in federal elections and a sense of eyes, election administrators to take proactive steps to better surf language minority voters. best practices to ensure election accessibility for which congress could provide financial support, include regular consultation with community institutions and leaders to represent language minority communities and i will add this is been a very effective practice in the past for those of us supervised naturalization assistant services. these have a very healthy partnership with the usda is. and i troubleshoot with them. on how to better meet the needs of legal permanent residents applying for u.s. citizenship. the same concept could be applied to working with local leaders and identify best
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practices for making voting is accessible to all. there should be regular training for all employees and measures accessibility and adaptation of administration argument, for and avoid the negative impact on my wish minority voters. in the country billing influence on an ministration that is monday applying to reduce or neglect language accessibility mandates. organizational congressional advocates accessibility, you must be prepared to defend basic necessity and utility to providing linkages for elections. is number americans of diverse national origins the linguistic grow, and effectiveness in engaging those citizens is active voters will increasingly determine the health of our democracy and the credibility of our government is the product of a truly representative political process. thank you. >> thank you.
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>> thank you man chair and members of the subcommittee. is president and general counsel i laid seven lawyers across the country regular confronting barriers to access for latino voters in this various both occur at the point based and instructors including election structures to prevent the latino vote from having the effect it would have. but today i want to focus on in the me new challenge to the latino community seems to target naturalized citizen voters pretty girls out of this administration his campaign. that puts quantico americans first, or quote unquote citizens first, that framework seems to lead up naturalized citizens. we first saw this in the attempt to and citizenship question to sit since 2020 and in doing so the headmistress was clearly seeking to trigger a map of vendor can out of the latino community in the first effect of that massive undercount would be on voting rights. it would result in an underrepresentation of the latino community both in
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reapportionment and redistributing the seats in the house of representatives among the states and with any state, and reduce training congressional seats as well is state legislative and local. as well. is we know, this report and an improbable victory prevented for citizenship question from going on this is the story type. the campaign continues to impact and prevent naturalized latino voters from participating. one example of this is in the executive order that accompanied the decision by the administration to give up attempting to read a citizenship question in 2020. that in that executive order the president ordered the commerce department to seek administrative record from both federal and state sources to try to put together a database of citizenship around the country. they now learn in recent media reports that one of the main mechanisms they will use to attempt to identify citizens, is
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dmv records from karen. the problem is, is we recently saw indicates litigated by moldovan others in texas, is the dmv databases with respect to citizenships are notoriously inaccurate. the fact is that someone who goes to dmv before becoming simpson has no obligation or a mini reason to report back to the dmv once and naturalized to become a citizen. they would not have any location you back to the mb until they need to renew drivers license for example. we saw this in texas where texas attempted to purge voters from the hot earls county by county by directing registrars to use faulty dmv data. to send notices to those who we're not citizens when they went to the dmv and tell them that they were effectively being accused of being ineligible voters. fortunately the litigation prevented that from going forward. but we now see that the administration is using the same faulty databases to created the database of citizens with the intent of that then be used, or
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state or locality might choose to test the constitutional limits of one person and one vote. and might choose to equalize population among districts based on something other than total population. clearly that use of faulty citizenship data when a tremendous impact on the voting rights latinos. and raises monday concerns. upcoming those concerns are the ongoing rhetoric comes from this administration that seems to target every latino and immigrant in the country regardless if they have naturalized or not. we are concerned that this ongoing rhetoric including the invasions of privacy and he is staying accessing these inaccurate dmv records could result in for the voting rights challenges. we are concerned that it could result in the unwarranted challenges to someone's eligibility to vote by vigilantes who let's look at that rhetoric in this administration from the white house and beyond, and he said they are going to challenge particular voters namely latino voters are voters who don't speak english voters who up here
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to them to me donald trump his definition of who it's not "american. we see this looming threat to voting prices potentially having applications is early is next year. and we are concerned that it's a short step from the rhetoric that we hear today to rhetoric the challenges the legal requirement of providing language assistance, bilingual assistance materials and languages and languages other than language and english to voters. we are concerned that is early is next year his election, we will see inappropriate challenges and providing those requirement materials and we will see challenges to the judgment seat and eligibility naturalized but do not yet speak english and these are access barriers that are new. and they are created entirely by the campaign that we see on a daily basis from the trumpet ministration. reese think this is the leaving danger of voting his rights concerned that this committee and subcommittee should take up an address. thank you. >> thank you ms. miss bishop you
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know recognized for five minutes. >> jefferson fudge, ranking member davis, members of the committee. thank you for the opportunity to testify today and may i also think congress coming. a christmas tree service to this country recipe sir. my name is michelle bishop and i am the voting rights specialist for the national disability rights network. and we aren't nonprofit member organization and federally mandated and protection may advocacy. according to the census bureau, at 256.7 million americans live with a disability. it's about 19 percent of the nonsense institutionalized ovulation. centers for disease control and prevention and research center, believe that number is actually closer to 25 percent. our one in four americans. for the records university projected 35.4 million eligible voters with disabilities are one sixth of the total american electorate in 2016. we are political active. he reports with disabilities are more likely to pay attention to
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presidential elections and i believe the results matter. despite all of this, american electoral system has a long history of including people with his abilities. let's start with the obvious. polling places. the u.s. government accountability office found in 2000 that only 16 percent of polling places an accessible path of travel. 27 percent in 2008, and 40 percent and 2016. 40 percent being the all-time high means that less than half of polling places we're accessible during the 2016 election. polling places are very slowly becoming more accessible, the betting stations within them are coming less so. in 2008, 84 percent of voting must, accessible in 2016, only 35 percent. architectural access and voting station access combined, only 1s
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we're found to be fully accessible. america's only places are inexcusably willfully and unjustly out of compliance with the americans with disability act. is this just large enough, the leadership human rights recently found 13 states closed and overwhelming 1688 only places and just six years. and an alarming trend. also blaming all enclosures on the ada. jurisdictions offer elective ada compliance is a pretext for pleasures despite their admitted lack of understanding of the ada failure to provide ada his surveys of the polling places in question, and grossly inflated cost estimates for updating holy places. this ability rights advocates in the department of justice do not advocate for the closure of an accessible polling places. rather we allow for temporary same-day modifications and
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curbside voting and other low cost best practices. in a forthcoming report, and here examines the issue polling place for those years and a compliance to doj enforcement in more depth. our part finds the month of settled are overwhelmingly not moving their holy places. places. alternatively the ones that have closer attempted to close, typically we're not investigated by the doj and could not provide accessibility surveys and could not provide any evidence of ordination stays in a or other disability advocacy organizations. the 88 and angie's enforcement of our undeniably being used is a smokescreen for voter suppression. these barriers have real consequences. despite the size of the disability community enter demonstrated investment elections, with disabilities continue to vote and lori and her nondisabled peers. in 2018, the difference was
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4.8 percent difference. i .7 percent in 2012. small percentages that actually equal several million voters. immediately preceding passage of the help american vault acts the gap and participation was action closer to 20 percent. the data shared a clear narrowing of the voter participation gap in the passage may voting drastically more accessible with people with disabilities. to protect all americans, congress must first and foremost ask voting rights amendment act. fully restored voting act would prevent polling place closures to threaten the axis the vault heading into the 2020 residential election. congressional funding is sorely need it to ensure that election officials can continually acquire maintain it and equipment. the territorial government and pna of the northern mariana islands as well is the native
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american disability law center community, they also need to have the funding to ensure access to the vault for pacific islanders and native americans with disability. extending funding to the only units excluded from, the symbol and no-cost legislation. finally each of the patchwork of federal laws ensures america's electoral systems are accessible to all eligible fighters must be enforced to their full capacity. america's democracy is only a strong is its ability to hear the voices of all americans. thank you. >> thank you thank you very mu much. recognized five minutes. >> thank you. mr. yang magus with you then and work our way down to mr. morrison. and then to ms. bishop. i have separate question for you. we talked about language assistance and obviously there has best practices seem pretty reasonable.
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more balance in multiple languages. what are some of the things we can do you mentioned full what are some other things we can do? you mentioned a poll worker training. what are some other ideas we can do with the language assistance frame that we could invest in and support in order to make a difference and ensure that people access to the bout? >> poll worker training if i could spend on that, it is developing training modules. sometimes when people think a a poll worker training they think about making sure they have translators or people that speak multiple languages that are serving as poll workers. that's one component of it but the other component is making sure people that speak english that are w working there, can still recognize the situation as it develops. and oh how to handle it. i for example, if i am a company -- if i accompanied my mother to a polling station the back of my mother doesn't speak english well, that poll worker hasha to understand i am there to help
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and that is within her rights as a voter. unfortunately there are a lotghf poll workers, not through -- i'm going to be generous, not through any intent to discriminate but do not understand the law well enough. it's having an infrastructure that has that learning, both learning modules in place. some of it is also again very, very simple. i'm going to think about just having translation in trifles that is sitting on counters that sort of makes people feel uncomfortable, i can't have a choice. there are translated balance or materials available. citizens especially new immigrants do not understand the rights and so making them comfortable with the process. certainly from my organization in and speaking for all immigrants, just as you are no less of a citizen because you have a disability, you are, no less ofa citizen because english is e not
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your first language. our job is to find ways to make sure people feel like they're equal citizens in democracy. >> congressman, the fact is that there are many jurisdictions that get it right and they been providing language assistance to votersroce for years, and what e concerned about is those places around the country that are newly being required to provide language assistance for the first time, and there's no need to really re-create the wheel if they can adopt best practices from other jurisdictions. that's something congress could incentivize. how could a manual of best practices be provided to other jurisdictions who for the first time are being required to provide language assistance so they don't repeat the same mistakes that have been committed before and they provide the best access to voters who are newly covered under section two oh three.
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>> like mr. vargas i would focus on the fact that jurisdictions that are covered by section 203 a regular expanding and think we need to find a way to anticipate which is not difficult with the expansion will occur and begin working with us jurisdictions to connect them. with successful jurisdictions in their own state or where they may be the first in a state with those in other states. there's a broader effort about really educating the public about folks rights so they understand this is not illegitimate, you don't then have the juul'ing to volunteers or others who would add their views, nothing like is being provided. there's a broader education effort that should start with where we know the next set of jurisdiction to be covered will be. >> thank you. ms. bishop, i wanted to talk a little bit about in your testimony you talk abouthe the help america vote act and the participation gap among those voters with and without
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disabilities. how has have helped close the gap? you mentioned us closer to 20% and and then it went down to below five. and you talk about that? >> absolutely. prior to the help america vote act we were doing even less to make america -- in fact, profoundly little. i'm sure all of us in the room remember voting on punchcard systems. those are not only difficult for the average american to line up properly and use, but it virtually impossible for people with certain types of disabilities.ri manys american voters with disabilities voted privately at independently for the very first time after hava was passed and that includes americans will begin voting withhe their 18 and were not able to vote with privacy and independent until they were in the '60s and '70s who spent their entire lives having to somebody else mark their ballot for h them because that ballot was not accessible.
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in itself, privacy independence after about should be right, also security future of our elections that i can trust because i manage my ballot independently that it's been marked in the way i intend, rather than having to take a leap of faith as a voter who potentially is blind, haven't ask someone else to mark about that i will never be able to see and know that someone marked ballot i intended. it was a long-standing failure i believe of our electoral process that were not providing accessibility of the ballot to voters withal disabilities, accessibility a polling places itself is an issue. the americans with disability act is the gold standard making sure polling places are accessible. it will not become laws of 1990. there's one law that predates that, the voting accessibility for the elderly and handicapped act but that still was the early 1980s. prior to that we were doing
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virtually nothing to make sure the electoral process was accessible to americans with disabilities. so hava represents enormously leap forward in making sure tran is able to cast their ballots here we believe that's a major factor in closing that gap. that is sending a message that you're not welcome and that your vote. doesn't matter here. >> thank you. >> thank you. ms. bishop, let me just -- i don't even know where to begin. we know the law. we know ada exists. we know hava excess. what is the rationale for not complying with the law? that's what i'm trying to figure out. >> there are many here there are many reasons. we hear very often, i work a lot with state and local elections officials as do the organizations that are in our
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network. we hearror very often that it is difficult to find polling places that a complaint with the americans with disabilities act. they're not entirely wrong about that compliance with the ada over all is lacking. there are not that many locations that are fully compliant at the also be willing to serve as as a polling place, which is voluntary. we hear that often. wewe hear that finding polling places that are suitably located as well in a large enough number of them, we also get accounts of poll workers for not adequately trained and ready to interact with voters with disciplines when it comes to the polling place. they are not necessarily aware of all o of the accommodations they are required to provide. there is a widespread failure in the united states to really fully understand all the provisions of the americans wita disabilities act inme particular how they apply to elections. i considered a primary and
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enforcement issue and that's what we believe the voting rights advancement act is so important. the department of justice and organizations have to be able to go out and push for that enforcement and that compliance with the adada withouto the thrt that the response will be to close large numbers of polling places. we don't make polling places accessible by closing them. we make them accessible by making them accessible, but without the protection of preclearance and the voting rights act, our job he comes extensively more difficult. >> thank you. to any of the gentlemen, i listen to each of you say that education and education of poll workers et cetera was extremely important. who to believe is responsible for the education andti that outreach? >> clearly, the election official at the local level are responsible for that. they should be held accountable to make sure they provide that education for all the poll workers they employ. we know many of them are challenged at finding enough
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poll workers with language ability necessary to meet the needs in local communities. i think one of the areas where congress could be helpful is to provide more incentives, to provide, to identify and help local elections officials recruit and train poll workers so that come with the language abilities needed to help the voters in their jurisdiction. >> me ask this question since you are the ceo of naleo. do you all not at points just recommend to the local boards of elections, we have these people are willing t to serve in, on election day or whatever to get trained. these are people who can accommodate the issues that we have. do you make those recommendations and they don't just accept them, or how does that work? >> we certainly dol's and try to identify other strategies to expand the number of people who are eligible to bepl a poll worker. remember, for some folks they have to give up a day of work,
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and that's that something that people are able to do many times if they are working folks to give up a full days of work and not get compensated by their employers. which is one of the reasons why we supported legislation in california to allow high school students to be able to work as poll workers. even though they themselves do not have thehe right to vote ye, they did have the skill sets in order to help people through the voting process. there's other incentives and strategies that can be employed to do that. >> mr. saenz, but they go back to this discussion that naturalized citizens. a citizen is a citizen. what is it about our process that would single out some of that is a naturalized citizen? >> because naturally citizens are immigrants themselves, they have families that include folks were still immigrants. they may still feel that they
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have vulnerabilities that they had is immigrants. so when you're confronted with rhetoric, as we see daily from the trump administration, that seems to discourage participation of immigrants and all elements of governments there's no way that naturalized citizens are natural in and from that. there is a deterrent effect. >> they don't even get to the point where they get to the post? >> innt some cases they would be deterred. they would have fears about the family. >> in other cases they would be concern they themselves might be challenged, particularly if they are a citizen by the citizens needs language assistance in some way at the polling place. there is also this danger of accessing inaccurate data, even though it's going to be used in aggregate it still means that a naturalized citizen is aware that the federal government is seeking information from their state dmv that make and accurately identify the best deal a noncitizen. that can have a deterrent effect, or itt can encourage
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others who may be led by the rhetoric to challenge that persons r participation in elections. it all stems from practices and rhetoric from the administration that is not seeking accurate data, particularly with respect to naturally citizens, that is invading privacy, that is raising those kinds of concerns and that is diminishing the citizenship off those who are nt nativeborn citizens of this country. >> if i could add very briefly to that. that's exactly right. with respect to the asian-american committee, about two-thirds of our command are immigrants and about over 90%, 92% of the asian community are immigrants or children of immigrants. our community is naturalizing at a very quick fast rate, their traditional trajectory is they are going to be noncitizens within each of those households. what he says is right, it's within the household these fears
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that are beingar raised that wht it means to be a noncitizen. where not even talking about and document immigrants. talk about legal permanent residents that have a right to be here. for their children that may be of voting age there are certain fears about how much they want to put her family that includes all sorts of different types of inferencee into the public eye. >> what to think we cannk do to combat that? >> i think the rest to be a counter rhetoric, if you will, that can come from the congress that can also help elected officials who want to make sure there's widespread knowledge that would including naturalized citizens has every right to vote. by thele same token i think this subcommittee should seriously look at whether there should be limits on the accessing of data known to be inaccurate to determine citizenship population, which is what w is ongoing right now with the commerce department. maldef together with asian americans advancing justice and others have challenged that
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effort in court, but there also needs the additional efforts to prevent accessingts private datg that is knowingly inaccurate and attending to some say that's an indication of poor citizens and were citizens are the country. >> your challenging under what kind of an action? >> we have filed in federal court in maryland challenging executive order that involve accessing the administrative records under t number of coins including the administered procedure act but also including constitutional claims at the same unconstitutional racial discriminatory content that motivated the addition of the citizenship question or the attempted addition of the citizenship question is behind this other effort as well. >> do you have anything else? okay. the last thing i think what ask you, if you could do it quickly, is if there is one thing you think we can have an effect on
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our one thing you want is to do from this committees perspective that will make the situation better that you are expensive, with that one thing be why do we start with ms. bishop? >> just one? [laughing] >> your number one. >> not all of our witnesses have answered the question with just one. >> your number one. >> hard to choose among so many things. i think that one of the most important thing that congress can do m to support making elections fully accessible to all is to provide funding. states need funding to upgrade their equipment, to upgrade their polling locations, the network needs additional funding to do the work we do to push them forward. we also want to thank what has not yet been mentioned as research and public funding to support better solutions. i mentioned earlier with the
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first time many americans with disability were able to vote privately at the debility because of the help america vote act. all of the voting systems use today could be both more accessible and more secure. we need effective research and development to develop better solutions that will solve both of thoseon problems. elections equipment is not a big mining industry if you were intact. w if congress is able to support those efforts i do believe we could develop voting solutions that are both more accessible and more secure going forward. >> thank you. mr. saenz? >> i would cite what he just said, which is looking into this accessing of state databases that are known to be an actor because even accessing the data as we saw with the short-lived election fraud task force can have chilling effects onsk vote. >> mr. vargas? >> i would say fully seated staff and funded election assistance commission. >> i would ditto all that.
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i can't overstate promoting best practices, and through that education and transparency. it's those best practices, making sure the state, special all of you have connections to local state elected officials, local state representatives, make sure they understand this and holding them accountable. obviously, what i mean by holding them accountable doesn't necessarily mean, making sure the absent the consequences of this. because again what we had to try to do is represent the american people. >> thank you. i thank you all. this has been a very interesting day. just to understand the myriad of things that are happening across this country to make it more difficult for people to vote. i thank you for the work to do. i thank you for taking the time to come to testify today, and i hope that you just continue to fight the good fight.t because obviously there are certain things we can you and
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certain things we cannot, but i appreciate your sharing with us what you are seeing on a daily basis and it gives us some idea of what we can do as we look at legislation going forward. again, i thank you all so much for being here, and without objection this subcommittee stands adjourned. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> the new c-span ipsos voting down 60% of americans want to amend the constitution and elect
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a president by popular vote rather than the electoral college. 38% want to keep the current system while only one-third of republicans support the change, 84% of democrats of democrats and nearly two-thirds of independence favor the popular vote for president. americans do not want to change the way votes are counted in most states and localities where the person with the most votes wins, even if they did not receive a majority of the votes. .. >> for the ranked choice systems is strongest among independents, but it's still under half among that group. you can read the full results on these issues and others such as americans' views on voting
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discrimination and voter fraud at c-span.org. we are live this morning at the heritage foundation here in washington d.c. where secretary of state mike pompeo will talk about syria and u.s. foreign policy priorities. we are expecting this to begin momentarily. live coverage here on c-span2. [inaudible conversations]
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[inaudible conversations] >> secretary of state mike pompeo is a featured speaker this morning at heritage foundation. he's expected to talk about syria and u.s. foreign priority policies. we expect him to start in a couple of minutes live on c-span2. while we wait remarks from
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chuck schumer, and yesterday he spoke about the president's withdrawal from syria. >> saturday night president trump announced on twitter that he was reversing his decision to host next year's g7 summit at his golf resort in doral, florida. the president's original decision was a textbook definition of self-dealing. the president decided to back down after hearing from intense opposition from members of his own party many of whom told him privately they would not defend him on the issue. it's obvious, obvious to almost everyone in america, you don't suggest a resort that you own as a place to have a conference. makes no sense. and as a president, so interested in making a few extra dollars that reports are he bragged what a
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multi-billionaire he is, to risk violating the rules and laws of this country, emoluments clause, makes no sense. now, it's unfortunate that this wasn't the only decision that made no sense. there's an obvious parallel between the president's decision about the g7 and his decision to precipitously withdraw from our forces in syria. both were done in the sort of whimsical way where from all reports the president doesn't consult with the experts in this latter case, with the military and the state department and the cia. both have resulted in condemnation from across the political spectrum. in fact, last week, over 120 house republicans voted in favor of a resolution criticizing the president's syria policy. leaders, mccarthy, scalise and
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chany, hardly moderates in the middle, seeking compromise in the middle, and they voted to condemn it as bad, it is. >> and echoing those sentiments, just like the president reversed the course on g7 after the criticism from his own party president trump must dramatically drastically re think his policy in syria which is far more dangerous. >> awesome first day of president's club. my name is martin gillespie and i'm very privileged to serve with our team of development officers in this entire country. boy, do we have an awesome lineup for you today. you know, if you think about it, how many conferences can you attend where on one day you start with the secretary of state and you end with the vice-president of the united states of america? that's pretty awesome. [applaus [applause] >> so i was thinking about w

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