tv Ben Crump Open Season CSPAN November 2, 2019 3:52pm-4:51pm EDT
politics. >> so we will have to end it there because our time is up, gentlemen, i want to thank you -- by way -- hold applause. >> chosen profession and what i like about my job is on any given day i get to carry this microphone which is virtual microphone today and kind of gives me permission to ask questions of a lot of really smart people and i gain enlightenment; i gain all kinds of valuable information and this is such a day because of you, so thank you very much. >> thank you very much. [applause] >> starting now boston book festival keynote address and discusses his book, open season.
[applause] >> where he will, we are here today to talk with attorney benjamin about his new book, just off the press, titled open season, legalize genocide of colored people. somebody who needs very little introduction to this audience, i will keep my introduction brief, he's a civil rights attorney, author and speaker who is known for representing the families of trayvon martin and michael brown in their respective cases, he's a frequent contributor to time magazine, first african-american chair board of law of directors, featured in documentaries as npr's, how a lawyer got a nation talking about trayvon martin and bet's i am trayvon martin's fight for justice, justice for minority communities and for
that he has received the aka eleanor roosevelt award, ncaap thurgood marshal award and michael luther servant award. i'm kenneth mack, representing the right, civil rights lawyer among other works and we are here to talk, format today is, i think we are going to allow mr. crump 15 minutes and stories that have inspired it. i'm going to ask him questions or maybe another 25 minutes and after that you all are going to have the opportunity to ask questions of mr. crump and that would be the remainder of our time so without further due, we will start with mr. crump and just give him 15 minutes or so to introduce us to this
provocative and important book. >> thank you for having me at the boston book festival, and as a trial lawyer i may stand because -- [laughter] >> and i will tell you this is my mission, ken i told you, this morning i was in atlanta georgia with colin kaepernick, the nfl quarterback and activist and we were talking to a high school gymnasium of thousands of young people and so i spoke for about 15 minutes and kept them engaged, so if i can do that to the high school students, i feel okay with you all. but in all seriousness, i would just tell you the 3 reasons that mostly inspired me why to write
this book, it was ben franklin who said, democracy is like tools and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. [laughter] >> you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know how that vote is going to go. but he said, liberty, liberty is making sure that that lamb is well armed to protest that vote, and so with open season, i endeavored to help the young lambs in communities of color be able to protest to vote to give them the information that armed them with intellect and diplomacy to be able to protest the school to prison pipeline, to protest their racist jim crow laws like stand your ground, to
be able to protest voter suppression, arm to protest environmental racism that would find the children in south central los angeles have a third of the lung capacity of children growing up in santa monica, california. make sure the young people are well arm today protest the present industrial complex where minorities who go to prison, often times people go to prison and concerned about losing their constitutional rights where when you're a minority especially women of color, you also have to worry about losing your reproductive rights, just as late as 2014 in the state of california it was an earth that there were black women and hispanic women being coerced
into sterilizations and all done legally and as late as 2017 you had not a judge but judges who were handing out sentences to black men literal i will saying, we will reduce your sentence by 10 years on a 12-year sentence if you would agree to be sterilized. i mean, this is genocide literally and figuratively that we are talking and so it's those things when you see the law itself that is supposed to protect us being the very instrument that they are using to kill us. the second thing that really inspired me to write this book and there were many of them, these are the 3 that stand out, in the aftermath of the killing of michael brown in ferguson,
missouri, when the young people refused to remain silent, refused to let them sweep his death under the rug because many people in the community saw with their own eyes that he put his hands eye and the police still shot him anyway and these young people were having the daily protests and i remember specifically the national guard being out there and the young brother who had no fear, they had their assault rifles pointed at him center mass and he walked straight up to them almost with his nose touching the tip of the assault rifle and he told them, go ahead and kill me now while all the cameras are watching, you are going to kill us anyway, you all -- it's important to let the world see how you're killing us so kill me now with the
cameras and that was rivetting to me and stayed in my mind so much, i went to bed thinking about what that young brother was saying and it was true. it is important that the world sees how they're killing us and not just how they're killing us in these high-profile police shooting cases but how they're killing us in courtrooms all over america every day and you don't have to take crump's word for it. .. ..
screaming this little black and brown children, often times are taken to the corner of the courtroom, they are fingerprinted and there handcuffed and they are are trumped up felony conviction. once you have that felony conviction, is life-changing. especially if you are a poor person of color in america. you have a felony conviction you have to wear it like a cross on your back for the rest of your entire live. everybody knows about where you can't vote and you can't surf on a jury began surfing the military. but those are just the tip of the iceberg. we do have a felony conviction. everything that you can troy to do to make a legitimate leaving, now that you have that convicted felony, it is taken away from you. if you trying to go to college. they won't let you get into the
federal laws, that went out conviction. if you troy to get a legitimate job, if you have felony conviction you can't get a certification. to be a t-shirt, you can get a certification to be a nurse, you can't get a certification to be a brett mason, and monday states, citizens and want to be beauticians, they have that felony conviction, they can get a certification to do that. if your real estate agent, you can't get certification. i found out the city of atlanta, anybody that would they feel like they have to do this but even women who are performing in strip clubs, if you are convicted felon you cannot get a certification to do that. it's almost as if they're pushing you back into a live of crime because every month you have to pay these probation fines and mandatory drug testing
fees and it is just a vicious cycle. and most young people who take that felony conviction which are young people of color, and if i go to court, i look at this jury and anything but my peers and they are telling me that i can get five to 15 years. so they take you that just take felony conviction and i just take this is only a few months. but they have no idea what they have just done when they have played into that coat felony conviction. in monday states, i have learned that if you are convicted felon, and you spend any time in prison, you can even get live insurance. it's like you are the walking dead. they just haven't given you the death certificate yet. were trying to get away from this racist discriminatory justice system that even though
they're trying to define you as having no redeemable qualities to society, we still believe in you. we still think that you are the best and we can offer for our community. we and we've god has a plan for your live. because understand, and states like florida and tennessee, one out of every five black men, are a convicted felon. the statistics are very similar in monday of the states across the country. experts suggest that if this trend continues in the next 25 years, it will be one out of every three black men in america. who are fit convicted felons. the lesson i will see is this. we have a lot of questions to get to. overseas in the legal size of color people are monday ways are an extension of what the great paul roberson, ed in 1951 and at
the time he was the most famous african-american in the world. along with the boys, it was the first african-american who graduated from harvard with a phd and was one of the founders of the mw acp. others went to the united nations and paris france and this is in the aftermath of world war ii when all of the countries filing petitions of their atrocities and abuse that they are suffering on the genocide and convention and definition. please black leaders charged and recharged genocide against the government for the killing of negro people in america. and they base this on the daily killings and lunches and raping the black people in the 1940s. they had case after case and they said we are using our
definition of united nations that acts with intent to destroy or hold in part, a group based on national racial or religious identity. that is what they are doing to us in america. in conclusion they said, the united states government is either complicit or responsible for creating a jealous vital situation to negro people. we do think about the fact the black man only makeup at most 7 percent of the population in america, but yet we make up almost 50 percent of the population represented on death row. there's creating a jealousy situation. in nursery school, and confronting, you see the black children are being suspended and
expelled almost 71 their white children. i scratch my head to this day, what could a child do to be expelled from canada guarded. but it is so ironic that those percentages of what they do to the nursery school and in kindergarten are very consistent with the statistics of the incarceration of black and brown people in the penal system in america. we hope to hold a mirror to america space to this book. we see america, we can do better. america, we have to follow the lessons of martin luther king who said it african critical for you to be the more standard there in the world and see injustice and evil and look the brother way.
then neutral in the face of injustice, and of itself isn't justice. and i conclude by just often the point that hypocrisy is everywhere. and we do think about the number of black and brown people and in presence for la marijuana, i just finished the case the criminal face of it where geiger, the white policewoman was convicted of killing this black man. she only got ten years in prison and i think about all those people didn't kill anybody. it was just la weed trying to make her name so they can pay the bills and now the united states government has in monday instances, legalized marijuana they are now la weed and making her name to pay the bills but when we did that, or imprisoned
so in this book, make the case that america, you are not allowed to make profit off of la marijuana until you let all of the black and brown people and brother people standing and present for prison out of prison. [applause] because that is what we mean when we talk about equal justice on the law because we all are american citizens. and we all are entitled to expect america to not just recite the preamble to the declaration of the independence but to act like they believe it. thank you. [applause] >> all right. thank you very much for your presentation. a lot of the things that are said in the book. what i would like to do and maybe take those little bit of
time is ask you a few questions about the book. and will have the audience give a little bit on knowledge that was in this book. i would like to start with the title of your book. provocative title. open season. the legalized genocide of people. and as you are staying in your opening, in both 1959 un commission against genocide and there's an intentional genocide against certain people. african-americans in this country. as with the book says. as a matter of fact in the book you think that there a conspiracy. that lots of people, u.s. presidents, supreme court, all have furthered the genocide black people. period it is the end of the book, you talk about your faith in the united states constitution. >> you see i am steadfast in my belief that the solution
overcoming legalized discrimination and ultimately genocide resides within the constitution. i'm wondering, do you see a tension between the kind of really gripping actually depressing diagnosis of the problem and you are safe in law. it's a way to remedy it. select even at the founding of our nation, there was tension because the original slits into slavery. and we never have addressed it fully. even we do think about the civil war and the 13th and 14th and 15th amendments, the so-called civil rights amendments. within 15 years, after those amendments have been passed, the united states of report and pretty much neutralized all of them and we give as an example
like for instance with the 13th amendment, that freed the slaves except if they are convicted of a crime and you can use it as punishment. will often what we saw happen and i think is still happening today slavery by any brother name, you have black people freely from the plantations and then they would go out and they walk the street in the local law enforcement in sheriff or whomever will approach them and see where you going and what you are doing. you have job. monday times if they did not. they would then define that as a crime of vagrancy. so they would then pay the newly freed slaves, in monday instances put them back on the same plantation that they were just freed from.
and when that was challenged in the virginia supreme court, they issued the whole that is still never been overturned. that said, if you are convicted of a crime, you are a slave of the state. in the united states supreme court denies and it was affirmed monday brother states and said same thing. when i submit to you all, one of the supreme court, this great institution of justice would have corrected that at that time. and they said that we want to see prisons as rehabilitations. we don't want to see prisons as this punishment where we think of incarceration is making somebody a slave. in the conclusion, i talk about how we need to reimagine
incarceration because i think the constitution, even though it's not a perfect document. it does write perfect opportunities for us to be better and i think when we look out the amendments, even after the supreme court was supposed to be the last safeguard, the court supposed the last refuge against injustice and i submit monday times, they promulgate injustices with his intellectual justification of discrimination. they have the powers right there in the constitution the 14th amendment, when they talk about the fair administration of justice and due process of the law and making it equal making affair. it's all right there for them to do it. as you teach students and we all have learned in law school, laws are just pen words on paper.
we bribe breathe live into them. and we brief what kind of live they are going to be. >> thank you. so your book is filled with cases you have been involved with that illustrate your larger points. >> host:: not only regarding african-americans being killed by the police. but people being caught prosecuted for african-americans registering in florida. you actually cite story of your cousin is almost caught up in the criminal justice system but was fortunate enough to have some connection to people who could sort of set him on a straighter path than brother people were not able or not so fortunate. i would like you to talk about maybe in a few of the lesser-known cases, that are in the book and the illustrations the older white. martin cases in the michael brown's cases, but what don't
they know that they should know. ben: for every michael brown, for every stephan clark, the because top news stories. there are literally 50 or so cases that are just as words that you never hear about that nobody knows their names. and we know so monday of them and it wont take is it too much time, trying to be two or three. in my heart still breaks when i think about these cases. ernest hoskins, art arkansas right outside little rock. this 21 -year-old kid who's doing everything right. and served in the military, he is young bride who was still in the military, they were expecting their first child. he was working for a company
that they did fuel modificatio modifications. greater efficiency and appeals of his at his bosses house was a 45 -year-old white man and his three coworkers and his boss was telling them they were not hitting his quotas. he was a top-performing salesm salesman. he said will doing so bad, wanted to get off of the couch and help us. show us how to do it. and that's where the narrative came out to be. his boss got up from the table went and got his 44 magnum gun and came in and pointed it at his head called the trigger and did not go off and then pulled it again and boom, it blew his brains all over the table in front of three witnesses, two
middle-class white witnesses and a young white woman whose spirit was her first in the job. the police were called, he said sandra brown. he did not get arrested and it was not until the young woman talk to my law firm and he told the truth until his mother and his young bride and i had a press conference almost two and half weeks later after the incident, that he was finally arrested. the hypocrisy of how the law works is the resources, he was allowed, to plea to manslaughter because he said he did not intend to kill ernest that the gun went off accidentally and he
was trying to de- cocked the gun. he received an 11 year sentence based on the pre- agreement which he could with pearl be out in five years. ernest cayce never got the attention of these brother cases but i submit to you, it was far worse than monday of them that have gotten attention. i think of isaac, the first time i saw sandra brown, was not trained on martin's case, it was made -year-old black man was a veteran who came from jacksonville florida, and moved to new york, he was a cook, his mother got up in edge, he was moved there to take care of his mother. after his mother passed, he decided to stay home and live on
is property that his family was very proud of. it had a house and house next to it where he had left over the years, the government had built subsidized housing projects across the street and with that came the urban decay. but everybody knew pops. and they're not allowed into that drug dealing or anything on his property. so you had an undercover police officer and a hispanic officer in the white officer, and set up, i guess a sting operation when they were la drugs in his work house was vacant so the game is out there in the yard. mr. singletary came out of his t-shirt and his shorts on a sunday afternoon and was still on the stove food was still on the stove. but he came out with his little 22 piston and told them to get
the hell off of my land. i don't allow that. the police claim they identified themselves. but my experts told us that no way they would never did that because if they do that, there undercover description is revealed. and you would never do that the live of me i don't understand why it didn't get off his property but they claim that mrd witnesses said that he never shot. one thing we know about the project, people are always outside watching stuff. they said no, no man didn't shoot he pointed the gun within the police shot him. and he kept telling them to get the h off of my property over and over again on the have to do is get off his property. they shot him and he fell back missing anything, the distance
even if he pointed the gun at them, he was about 20 to 30 feet away from them. the gun with a shine, he fell back on the house and stumbled to his backyard in the s.w.a.t. team came and went in the backyard and took him out. they shot him six times. they claim that he would never drop the gun that was the first time stay on your ground that i came to conclude did not work for black people. because isaac singletary went to his grave thinking those were drug dealers and all that he was trying to do is defend his property. can you imagine a white person in the suburbs the police, and set crime and invite crime on your property they don't get the courtesy of coming to you to notify you. and then you have dead and they give you the statutory military limit the state pays for killing
you but nope the officers are going to jail. so those are the same cases, everything served this country, productive citizen and for that he got killed simply telling what he thought were drug dealers, perceived his drug dealers to get off of this property. sooner. >> host:: before i ask the next question, you will have the opportunity to pose your own questions to mr. crump. i think there are going to be people walking up and down of the aisles. you just have the opportunity to write question on the card. as to the aisles, and then in about 15 more minutes we will start causing some of your questions to mr. crum. so ask the next question. there's a lot to see.
i know in your book, this last chapter recommendations serve, ten things staying what we can be doing. i want to ask you more specifically. you are in florida, if you could think three legal reforms there. it would have some effects on the problems you are talking about, what would be your top three things to do. ben: i know number one right off of the mat, because we have been railing against since february 26, 2012, benjamin and mark was working on minding his business and with a bag of skittles and a can of iced tea cup talking to his friend on the phone. the neighborhood watch volunteer jars him and profile pursuit and shot him in his heart. then he got sleep in his bed that night so the first thing i was certainly doing the state of florida since was the first
state to pass the stay on your ground law which i am on record as the most racist law that we've ever seen in america. it said because black people and brown people in america regrettably and unfortunately we have gotten used to the police killing us and not bid held accountable. so the stay on your ground law made it would any tom,, or harry to kill us and still not be held accountable. not just held accountable, the humor that statistic i was talking about where black people on death row, their quickest way to get to death or on america is be a person of color and kill a white person. yet when a white kills a person of color, often times they're not even arrested.
all i have to see is stay on your ground. and so that would certainly be the first law to get rid of said ground. not a minute, get rid of it. there has brought nothing wrong with self defense. stay on your ground as a solution looking for a problem. in ari suggested it about the legislature and said now you have that license to use the instruments that we are la you and don't worry about any accountability. just use them and i think that is the wrong message to stadium people. we said all of her problems were violence against versus conflict resolution and diplomacy. the second thing, i would do, is now that we have this amendment
to restore the rights of convicted felons in florida. because it was 1.4 million people in florida that could never vote because if you are convicted felon in florida, you can never vote. so it was a referendum put on the ballot and if asked overwhelmingly and the power to be, they see okay, will i know all of you black and brown people are majority, there is a lot of white people to but overwhelmingly, minorities. they said, you can vote but first them to pay all of the court costs, whatever administrative fees we have for you while you were in prison, and so just imagine, you got these poor people of color who
their to get the right to vote, and they win. the name of the goalposts. they change the rules. this and we just gotta pay this five or $6000. monday of them as i told you, our convicted felons they are struggling to get jobs just to be able to pay the live bill. how monday of them are going to be able to hand over five or $6000 to go vote. but that is the hypocrisy of it all where you talk about everybody in america as democracy. not if we get to define you as a deep criminal. we have a chapter the book called legislative intent. we can predict, in fact we can tell, the criminals are going to be. i never forget my professor staying one is in college, is an if it to all $500, i can get rid of all of the crime in america. we were kind of dumbfounded. he said we get rid of all the
crimes in america overnight. just like that. i'll bet you $500 i can do it. so you like okay professor jones, how would you get rid of all of the crime in america. he said simply change the definition of crime. is that simple. in the case and there were young man, where we know exactly who that's identified for, the seven water law, is directed that poor people who are just trying to find a way to make ends meet. trying to criminalize the coaches. that way to get to populate the industrial complex get younger stronger slaves. that's we do look at and that is the third thing and i would see about florida. i would get rid of that 1.4 million floridians have to pay and the third thing, is in
florida, and jenna you know we direct file more children as adults into the adult prison than any brother state in america. it is so sad we do sit in the courtroom and you see that they are direct violence, 14 -year-old black and hispanic boys not just the boys, the highest growing percentage dead and in prison right now, our minority women. black and hispanic women. so concentrating it is so in-your-face but the young ladies are safe neither. and then the direct file the motion passed while they're in prison near psychologically scarred forever. often raped innately to have suicide almost 36 more times
than the average person in america and these are kids on the edge of 18 who have been put into adult prisons. so this would be the three things. i can make it more perfect union, that's what i would do. [applause]. >> host:: i think we are ready to take questions that were generated by the audience members. we have several. and if we need more blood more. first question, what advice you have for young black or brown person, in place like boston
where racism has brought as blatant as in see florida but still incredibly present. would you give would your advice be. ben: the advice i would give and i get it, the justification of discrimination. we see it every day. the courts and the supreme court in all of the courts, they always figure out no matter what the situation is, is to make sure that people of color get the most of injustice and the least of justice. when i think you have to do is what we see and the first thing about the 12 personal steps we can all do. you can use your personal platforms to speak truth to power. this book endeavored to have it be an opportunity for all races
to confront our vices. we'll have them. if you think her implicit vices. if you are a young person of color, you troy to have the dialogue is much as you can buy using your influence or your platforms, i used an example of john, not because he has all of this influence but he just uses social media everyday for 50 days to only talk about being in the fox. working convicted felon is had to check a fox and was a check that fox, you knew they were not getting the job. and because he and then invited everybody else to join him, you do that. i think about the law student who called up to ask permission to start a change .org petition
that became the largest edition of tank that said the killer of trade violence should at least be arrested and brought to court to face the witnesses and evidence against him. nope didn't know that 6 million people sign this petition but he said i want to do something to troy to make it better. i'm sure there are things here in boston community that you can troy to address by using your platform. thing about gideon. the talk about that, this person who did name have a high school diploma brought his of it petition to the supreme court. the "60 minutes" had a right to an attorney african afford one than one would be appointed to me that didn't happen for me. he just wrote the petition. you have to troy to do something. better to strike a match than to curse the darkness. so with this book and the cases
i take my follow the example of my hero essay, you have to do something. he would never go to the schools because it was just the reality of live. and as a conclusion in law the black people and white people never go to school together. every day, he would wake up and he would do something was within his power to turn out segregation. we all had that capacity within us is doctor king said we all have a role to play. not everybody is expected to be with me and black lives matter on the front line but you can do something like showing up to city council with your group and you see, i want to talk about this young person was shot in the back by the police. i want to know why we have all
of these minorities being charged with felonies and the only makeup 5 percent of the population. just as things you can do. you don't have to ask anybody else for. basically you getting on your computer. you going up city hall, seven to somebody, which is the easiest thing to do, we can't save them all in this racist criminal justice system is still going to continue to target our children. we can't run racism in america it does matter how fluent we are it just as a matter our children unless we can do senses who buys in the probability of prisons in america, they are going to continue to target us. but we can troy to see by mentors like the starfish on the bench. can't save them all but you can save that one.
[applause]. >> host:: we have another one about trajectory we are on. what do you think seem to be getting worse and worse and worse. or are they really getting worse and worse. where is the abuse that is always happened, finally bring brought to live. what is our trajectory. ben: thank we've god for the advent of technology. things are being coming more transparent. i think the injustices were always there but now they have body cameras and we think about in monday instances in 2012 not because of main street media but social media and the young people. i think about michael brown, resident obama signed the provided $50 million for all
police officers around the country to get body camera video so monday of them got the grandson of the body camera videos says transparent. i think that if you are half full or half empty. is your perspective. i think certainly because it we have in white house is trying to get rid of a lot of momentum towards equal justice on the law, but i also think we do think about the condition of geiger, just a few weeks ago, it was the first time a white policewoman and ever been convicted of murder of killing a black man in america so that is in progress and i think about marquise maclachlan who was killed in the parking lot vigilante and clearwater florida. killed tragically and stay on your ground because they had a
surveillance video. all-white jury convicted him and was sentenced to 20 years in prison. grace iroquois jones down in west palm beach florida, killed cory and thank we've god the tow truck recorder was on. he was an undercover police officer said he identified himself he lied. the 3:00 o'clock at night on the side of that road and cory so monday good kids, not that you have to be a near perfect person of color to get equal justice but seems like that's the same as they are now holding minorities to because of the going to assassinate your character and your person, then they see you not worthy of consideration. you not worthy of their giving you equal justice in the enemies of equality continue to troy to use the law to be able to disenfranchise people to
marginalize people to be humanized and people especially of color. but we haven't within our capacity i believe to be able to use the laws to instrument of good. we do ask me about the constitution wise to believe this because i believe america is the greatest country in the world to give the person who is disenfranchised and who is poor, is marginalized an opportunity to increase their live and live. we are by far still that great beacon of hope and justice for all the world to marble. we just cannot let the enemies of equality be able to win. it's that simple. with razor children more intelligent than those woods see to oppress them. we never ever when this battle
with violence and guns and so forth. the only way we will win this war is with intellect and courage and diplomacy. addressed to see this because doctor king said the coward has to question his faith you sent that expediency asked the question, is it politically correct. vanity asked the question is popular but then he said conscience has to question his right he said there comes a time when we must all take those position that is neither popular nor politically correct or not even safe but we must take those position because our conscience tells us it is the right thing to do. i submit to my fellow americans it is the right thing to do to not be neutral we do see an injustice to do something about
it in our country is great because of the individual who decided to have the courage every day to make it right. back. >> host:: we have time for one last question. i just want to ask ashley, i want to ask the question about media. you've been someone who's been in the media and you've been controversial for being in the media for using videos to make cases well-known we do take th them. for hosting a reality tv show. any of your production
companies, producing things for netflix. now some people see that isn't connected to the work you've outlined here. so connect this to people in respond to that question. it's. ben: absolutely. malcolm x said one of the most powerful drugs ever created in the world was tv. because tv literally with those images and so forth, but things in your subconscious mind and have you thinking things that you don't even know you are thinking. and so we do see every day law in order with the police and the prosecutors are always right and honorable in the minority people are always wrong and criminal and mischievous, it says in your
mind. we do look at forensic files. we do look at these new stations and your newspaper and they always have these images about black people and hispanic people being irresponsible and violent and everything it says your mind. we do come in the courtrooms you can almost predict what these jurors are thinking before anybody even opens her mouth and so i have tried do, on television as i think about what marshall would be doing now because he would always not just take those case that would impact the individual and their families but he would take the cases that would have the greatest impact on society as a whole because i believe when justice marshall was trying to do was trying to impact the hearts and minds of future jurors. jurors who were going to sit in judgment about children and
decide weather they became part of the school pipeline or weather they got a chance to achieve the american dream. so with the evidence evident in this sense, tv one and the majority of black audiences, when we troy now to get it on netflix, is we have these wrongfully incarcerated individuals mostly black and hispanic people because the innocence project has documented that and admitted a hundred thousand people sitting in american prisons were completely innocent and i think that's in the low side but completely innocent. then committing crimes at all most of them are black and brown people the reason we think black and brown people are convicted of crimes and they have no evidence of whatsoever is because they have been painted
from the media. they been taken from the styles. were talking about how the system got it wrong over and over and over again therefore, the come the courtroom maybe they won't be so quick to believe the police or prosecutor illustrated the book over and over again, how this immunity is his biggest hypocrisy ever because they can just convict for black and brown people and then when they are shown, to not just be mistaken but willful, and put in these people in prison and taken the liberty away sometimes for tenant in 20 and 30 years sometimes. my bad. they don't need to apologize. nothing happens to them. and you see it over and over again.
troy it with these tv shows, doubling these next police officers but their inactions were black and brown people, so they won't leak so quick to shoot first and ask questions later. think about how these cases were unnecessary and unjustifiable. i think about terrence and tulsa oklahoma. i think about tamir 12 years old in cleveland. the about jonathan crawford and walmart and people creek ohio, i think about stephan clark and his grandma his backyard with a cell phone. i think about you know john on his couch with geiger. i think about tiana jefferson. in her apartment and minding her business. you think about castille with his daughter in the backseat. you think about all of these
cases. commerce not running away and corey jones, as a black man who haven't had car trouble. they had to die. all these cases over and over again. just dispose that. will confirm white mass murderers when it be the killer in parkland florida. weather it be the waffle house killer in tennessee and ran into the woods. the police chased him into the woods. had confirmed and killed four people and shot four of those pre- he went into the woods. in hand and the police officer all walked and live. and if that was a black person, ain't no way he would've walked out of that was alive. you think about dylan in my mind, the worst one ever as he killed the most innocent people you could ever find. he said he felt bad that killing him because they were so kind to
him yet the police pulling him across state lines and when they interact with this and confirm mass murder, when they do they shoot him and ask questions later no, they arrest him and protect him because white men get arrested and protected and back pain is shot on assumption. they took dylan to burger king on the way to going to jail. every killed nine black people. when i tried to do it with these teenagers is troy to.out to the hearts and minds of america and we can better. i believe that with everything in my heart guys. >> [applause]. >> host:: i should see something about signing. we'll have to hear.
are out there. okay, the book is called open season. the legalized genocide of public people by attorney benjamin crump. when the book signing out there afterwards and please stay for that. think mr. krupp are coming here and sharing his story. [applause] next from this year his boston book festival is the discussion on the environment. including harriet washington, writes about what she calls environmental racism. soon a good evening and welcome today to the boston public library. and the president of the boston public library and we are sponsoring this particular session of the festival and we