tv Senators Richard Burr and Mark Warner Conversation on Bipartisanship CSPAN November 16, 2019 3:25am-4:21am EST
evening and welcome to all of you and welcome to senator burr and senator warner. both of you have had very long careers in public service and i know that you have when the house in 1994 and senator warner, 1989 work with judge wilder and before becoming governor yourself of virginia. someone inspired your career in public service. would you see to young people today who would like to pursue a career in public service. >> [laughter] i'd like to thank and i actually am a little bit older than richard but a no-no. >> he has. >> not anymore. alisa got here.
>> like to say that i was old enough to get touched by the idealism of the 60s. but not old enough to get jaded by in a grown-up in the midwest indiana and illinois and connecticut but it was with synchrony for 35 years. and my family was a personal to graduate from college. and somehow my parents with political and boy scouts church community pta but not political and somehow i always had the bug. took some time when went off did missus ended politics right out of college and law school but i say one of the things for all the frustrations we do absolutely get stuff done which become hardware for we've god, the ability to affect people
news lives and extraordinary positive way. >> many people in this room knew my father and mother those who grew up in the community. instilled in me is the time to complain and when that's over with, you need to sign up or shut up. i remember the day i told my wife as when run for congress. i'm still reminded of it. [laughter] 25 years later. the reality is we've all got to pick and that we like to make an impact. and more iser in an important place and incredibly challenging. i say that we talked about it, 20 years from now somebody will look at how we conducted the intelligence committee. how we interacted with 70 intelligence agencies. i will look at the present and hopefully they will follow that.
it just happens we do it at the time with his completely different approach on the house side. but the obvious thing is you can't do it if we don't trust each other. we don't agree on everything and we don't agree, we get together and we hammer them out. if in fact it is a tight, german soup is the winds. [laughter] but to my knowledge we have never exercised that. reality is that i say the institution and certainly the committee and responsibility committee are better off because of how we do it. >> cemented trust, how do you get the trust between the two of you. >> a few glasses of wine. [laughter] >> i got to the senate and i'd never been a legislator. i'm a business guy. he measured by what you get done. an opportunity to be governor
for four years and really loved the job. after the senate and had to. >> throttle back. sprawled back a little bit. he really has brought getting get things done right away. richard, a good friend of richards, former senator from georgia, we became good friends and we didn't agree on everything. but i say at the end of the day, the secret sauce that is missing from is it too much of our politics, is the trust. trust means that something you gotta be wheeling to do what you say is right even if your team does not agree with it. and until you can show your willingness to senate prasanna hubley and, frankly your team doesn't agree with, you don't fully earn that trust. richard and i have tried earn that with each other we give
each other plenty of grief along this way and we traveled and we traveled in some of these times around the world. but it starts with a personal relationship in recognition in the friendship and trusting relationship is more important than short-term partisan points. >> what it's like to be subpoenaed by the president's son. [laughter] but he did turn to me and see you going to do wet. >> and the fact is doing things like that, it's not something you expect to do we take this job. but it is part of the process that he and i committed to at the beginning which is were going to follow the facts. if he can't talk to everybody that might be connected. who kind of been the home of the world can you determine which is right. they will talk later on about
the social media and about the world we are in now but i'm asked, what am i scared about. i'm scared about what i don't know. what i don't understand in what you see in the national media has brought indicative of the relationships we have in washington. and more and i have a good relationship and i say you would believe that 98 other people don't. the truth is that that was the case, we would get nothing done. this is senate rules and allows one person decide anything at anytime. >> we do know which guys of the designated jerks on both teams though. >> [laughter] >> that would be on amy kind of personal humidity, >> i was asked earlier by students having to get things done. have you identified the people that you have a common interest with. i disagree with them 60 percent of the things but the other part you'll find agreement on so undoing education.
i'm doing my piecing. but he plans to be i was doing deals with ted kennedy. why because we believed in the same things on those issues. but also were looking for somebody that clippers the other ones back. and i say in the case of the intelligence committee, but an extremely good job of communicating with each other and covering our backs with our members even on the committee. when we are taking a tough position. >> team appropriate credit, there would've been, so much easier in today's world for richard used to see, i'm going to go with the flow. as opposed to where we started we said, were going to brent the facts. and will follow them wherever they like. in one of the things that i am very proud of is the folks that we had in the investigation, though seductive didn't realize which one where democrats which
were republicans in terms of staffing and been a host of other areas in a document of the first century and technology stuff. [laughter] i know, a technology has recognized that in many ways, there is no community of technology in the senate. he can speak to this better than i know what kind of carved out that area. and a whole host of issues. and at the residence has earlier. it's not liberal conservative red blue it is future cast. this is the guide two is wheeling to try to grapple the future and past issues. in a really important way. >> give a rosy pitcher of washington but we have [laughter] 2015, study the millennials 74 percent expressed distrust. in the government and there's a more recent gallup poll in american news approval of congress from remained at 20 percent and is from 2019 mick news approval remains at
20 percent for the second consecutive month for congress. and this having declined after two years. so is washington, you said washington has brought broken but the statistics suggest otherwise. what can we do to restore faith in our government. >> within the past 20 years, the majority millennials, hunting in america, get their news is alert on the phone. but a dealer to get today and at 8:00 o'clock tonight see was different. likelihood it is. now maybe we had to be talking about journalism classes. about the standards of journalism where historically they came out and you have two sources one of them had a behavior a resource today is anonymous and does matter with her is right lift. his anonymous source. imagine if we had operated the world where everybody was anonymous to us. we've been over 200 people the
russian investigation. there may be 13 the you know who we interviewed because they came out publicly. but there was some acknowledgment of the subpoena. there were hundred and 80 plus people they'll never read about. hopefully. they came in and that we interviewed because we do things behind closed doors were not ashamed of that. we say america safer because we do a business behind closed doors in our members to talk about it. but don't tell you is the vice chairman. our base challenge is where members don't talk to the press. when we do our business which is oversight over 17 agencies, so the market i can look at you and absolutely assure you that everything we do lives within goleta of the law or the order of the present. and if in fact we reach the confidence that we have with 17
intelligence agencies, there were not going to get the information from them that we need to do correct oversight. he would like to be in the press every day. [laughter] the fact is that is not where are committee operates. and certainly not will begin dress of the people that we actually to the recital. >> first of all i would see, some of those statistics in terms of congressman. we market. 5 percent is 9 percent. [laughter] your counting relatives and friends. i say these inherent contradictions. with his 9 percent actually percent. yet we still see the election rates on individual members that top 75 percent in the last couple of cycles. so it is easy to take congress.
number two, i do say that an institutional process that we have at this.is that we have driven is it too much power in both the house or senate. to the respective lead lucia. the majority leader minority leader speaker and we do don't legislate most of the year and you wait until these kind of a carry balls of mass that happens at the end of the year when it's budget wise or piecewise that is not a rational way to deal with this. for the largest institution of the world the u.s. government. number three, i say that we is it too often and i say it was much of this when there were lots of separate bases of power rather than powerpoint through majority leader or minority leader does matter machine that he or she raise the her name and estimate for small first and foremost loyal to your team more
than loyal to country. as a huge flop. but i it's been longer that than in politics. the base difference in his this is you get measured by what you can done. and the people i work with in politics, they can tell you what they've been against most of their life. but rarely with therefore and less until we start hire people who are wheeling to get the yes and even if that yes may not be etiologically perfect, then we're going to continue to have those in my fear is because i don't say we can continue. and i say within a unique relationship in the realm of the intelligence oversight, we have a little more freedom the kind of elisa and the things get done, that always this early if you are the press. but you say that there is his problem in a world that is moving as quickly as our world is moving as you mentioned, the way we sickness the 65 percent
of americans is somewhere on the news from facebook and google. there is no editorial regulated at all. if i don't show again that we can continue get the yes on certain items, millennials and for the generations of people will tune out in my fear and i see this is somebody with dislike, i know you want to shut the tv for the news comes on and i feel the same way in and inside the tv. [laughter] if you tune out, and see, all you are doing is trying the keys over to what i call the windmill. amy political party, the policies will not give a. i say there are a host of issues, technology may be able to be reformulated. maybe certain areas that background misses economic incentives that purposively
healthcare and education infrastructure where the ready skunk at their established positions may be going bigger is absolutely easier. to get common agreement. then on certain areas the audit just like ricky is the poison board so that even if it's not the world news biggest issue, congress the government can see we have actually picks up and going to move on something else. i say there are a host of areas which would get in tonight to do that. smart on the mission now mania. i know you both feel strongly about responsible youth of social media and currently it is being really big brawl in our political discourse. are you concerned about this brawl that social media is playing. >> would probably differ a little bit on our approach. this is the valuable platform to the american people to communicate. from a committee standpoint, we'd like to see is the
collaboration of government. we would like to see a willingness to participate in those issues that deal with national security or election security and i see if it hadn't been for what we uncovered over two years, we might've had a big problem in 2018. within it. because we have a loophole of cooperation and collaboration between social media companies not all. with a major. with the federal government and was able to put together an architecture that made it through the 18 election that went out incident. so it was a policy change in the part of the administration a little brush people off the plate. twenty is going to be much more challenging say. were fairly confident right now that we can continue expand this collaborative agreement.
i say and more has a different cause as it relates to regulating platforms we've got understand that when we saw social media used to create society chaos in the united states, there is no legislative remedy for this. because there on a first amendment issue and rushed out and said were going to regulate this. in might've mayday big splash but the two of us realized that we could do that and it will get overturned in supreme court. the have first amendment protection. so it is better in this case this may be the model the future hope government and the private sector academia collaborates together for the good of the country and that is the thing we are going out with. >> i great and i disagree. i say that we've got, i see this as my background is in
technology venture catalyst. our next sale, getting the wireless industry and 80s. i say we became totally infatuated with vanities platforms and we became way over the top optimists in a traditional republican party that says a business entrepreneurship democrats, mr. obama, fell in love with the fact that google and facebook said they're going to be good companies. i say they didn't even realize the power. and we were completely gone off guard. as the government. help that dark underbelly of social media could really just hate each other, and each other and at each other's throats manipulated by outside source sources in ways that i say everybody fully understood, and
so respectively hardly disagree with you. not a hundred percent sure that these platforms and their first amendment rights, the reason why these companies have no responsibility and have the same responsible is for example that the media company has late '90s we set up rules for social media, we basically said that let's consider these companies with as telecom companies, it may be that made sense then. but when 65 percent of the newest is comes from facebook and media, section 230 exemption may be needs to be rethought and we have already said you can't do child pornography or trafficking or are making. in other countries, in uk and australia are starting to look at content. maybe we ought to have a debate about that. discussion says this would be content if you actually had to
own your content that you posted on facebook, and put your real identity next to that, that might increase companies they've seen so much outside intervention, that the only weekend on the internet, social media is if you validate who you are. that might work in america, but i say there are things where i am not where some of my folks on the democratic side, and was simply turn the keys over to large chinese platform companies. but i do say it that it take that off of the table but i do say that a no for example what data is collected. for what it is worth. i say we ought to know if we get tired of facebook. we are to be able to easily move oliver data from facebook including our cat videos to new site. data portability plans to be able to talk to people remain on facebook. there are no comps of petitioning from transparency
portability and certain rules of the road, i say again, there will be broad bipartisan consensus in the legislation i got there, i say that there are bipartisan. i say the platform companies are starting to realize that there are kind of playing local with an inefficient congress, is going to come back and bite them because when america doesn't lead in the standards, we've now given that leadership states like california nevada and others and we see the europeans move on privacy in countries like the uk and australia move on content and all that we have done is that what was the ceiling, will be a new floor when we do this. and i say again this is an area where i say there is a lot of common ground but i agree with richard in the sense that we shouldn't have rushed into russian to quickly. >> the only thing i was going to add to it is we have no jurisdiction of the intelligence
committee. >> [laughter] >> with talk privately about the fact that if we have no committee of technology, we are the only ones that on daily basis, look at the intelligence and tells us what everybody else is doing and the committees that have jurisdiction over telephone policy or get involved in the defense issues, they don't have what we have. it is very challenging and i would tell you that the architecture of government has brought conducive to the 21st century. and you might look at academia and the challenges is that is conducive to 21st century or we are generating now is the output of what we need for the economic opportunities that are there. governments never going to be on its current structure, the institution that is ahead
technologically because we just don't allow technology to be played in real time. >> twenty-seven, getting me credit, this was an area weather it is the architecture of our satellites overhead or an area where we are up to our eyeballs in the next generation telecom. it's called five g. the equivalent of moving to four g to five g all the things we call the internet of things relied on the systems. doug in deep. we are because we get a chance to see this brawl on the cutting edge research is done in the entire world. and we have earned some credibility with her colleagues that if we come up with some ideas, and so stay tuned, some of these areas are going to pose economic and security challenges beyond anything imagined in the last 50 or 60 years i say will
have some thoughtful things to see about it. >> say in us they don't have your section on that because there is broad bipartisan consensus that you can not run cat videos from it. [laughter] but [laughter] >> moving on. taking about the work of your committee, and its share of the senate select committee on intelligence with similar corner of the live stare, i'm doctor ray, your committee issued a report entitled russian and the media. read a little bit about what you said in your statement. senator burr you see that russia is waging an information warfare campaign against the u.s. it didn't start dave and the 2016 election. senator warner and your statement, you note that now with the 2020 election on the
horizons, there's been doubt that bad actors will continue to try to open i.c.e. the scale and research of social media platforms for public confidence in foster chaos and actually senator warren you going to see that the russians are using only becoming more sophisticated. so when are the threats but do powers pose to our democracy. and he talked a little bit about what we can do to protect your country but see more about how - >> went in this a few times. one of the reason why it's not just russia. or china. or north korea. we are spending 750 billion bucks on defense in russia spends 70. in most area why are way ahead but if you take cyber, or misinformation disinformation, china and russia are nearly our peers. and i fear we may and i see this
in a state like north carolina and virginia we have huge and this was in the military that we like way is it too much 20th century stuff in a world where we need to be in the 21st century marked cyber information in one of the reasons we know that russia and others will be back as if you end up all of russia's bit into being intervening, the french presidential elections, yet the altogether is less than the cost of oneok at 35 airplanes. so this is both cheap and enormously effective. and the commandos in a way which is always been a strength, our openness. i give kudos to the trump administration on this that on both bush and obama, we will always them to push back. we have been wheeling to be pushing back more. it is helpful but 2016, was
first generation that the nexgen of neck talent not it will look like richard burr but it will not be his facial. lord knows what that could look like. [laughter] [applause] >> if you watch madame secretary last night, they didn't defect video and madam secretary. and this is the challenge that his credit has been all over this and i'm not sure that we have a mechanism in place. that will distinguish that and broadcast it. we are still trying to figure out how legitimately we make notifications of campaigns or candidates that are targets because look at this rich history in this country that the fbi is the notification node and
that may not be consistent with what we are up against because of the way things have to funnel down. from a timing standpoint and we are on a restructuring of that right now. where we say campaigns are going to be notified to at least the activities that we have seen up-to-date. we get into deep thanks, if that happens and we expect that it will, this is the whole blue lake that we've got mechanisms in place that we just don't know if they work. >> i say where you seat debate and may not be initially politics but is only looks like japan, and for that matter and more jack zuckerberg will come out and might be poetic justice. and suddenly it will have huge market effects. and thanks remarkable that not seen his tools already been used to manipulate markets. >> i would see that we are
blessed with the fact that targeted elections. and not the economy. so far. >> were going to shift gears from thinking about. >> were not invited back to many places. >> [laughter] >> who tells a little bit about what is happening economic right now. along racial and economic lines, president trump and just 8 percent the black goods in 2016 and 81 percent american american voters disapproved. of his job is present. but, the gop has historically had problems diversifying parties. the senator warren nerve, a lot of folks would see that the democratic party racial and more minorities during the election season and once in office, the
minorities are love to see results. what do those parties do to better represent the interests of all americans. >> i say things are actually, i got a news good news story in abundance) the good news you may read. we just had major state elections we can go and virginia. in loudoun county, which is right outside of dc, 400,000. an outer suburbs. i came to a group of candidates, all the democratic board of supervisors and local boards. it was pretty amazing. i was the only old white guy in only two white guys in the group of 30. suddenly the candidates looked like the community and hope to
represent. in many of those folks, where then successful election night. that is the good inside. that insight is the son he who believes in economic environment, has to be done in a broadway and we've got attention right now were 90 percent of all venture capitalist to ghost white guys and a hundred percent or 75 percent is white guys mostly three states that including virginia and north carolina. but 10 percent venture capitalism combined, to african-americans and latinos. this just a bad economic of our country. i would argue that for the most part neither political party has an economic theory to carry the case based in the 21st century. and i say what has been missing is in a say this go to particular folks of color to get
the short end of the stick where it and i say we would recognize it. he will not going to work at the same top 35 years that we were dented. but have a system says that no matter what kind of work you get, those benefits to be portable. and move from job to job. even more radical idea than what britney is talking about, let's actually make it an investment in human capital, stacked lies in the county weiss, as valuable as the investment in research and development. right now you spend $5000 in robot and he is the stacked credit and the robot is an asset you put on your balance sheet is to know the people you don't get the same stacked benefits. in some of the stuff that's happening in the business, they're starting to say that maybe we ought to and we need to make her name. again the business guy longer than a politician. i say the thing that could destroy capitalism would be this enormous focus on short-term profits for the long-term value of the relationship.
and the live business community is starting to get that. we had a move towards a more staple capitalism says you still need to make her name for shareholders to consider your employees others. i say that was the capitalism post world war two that to four people out of poverty did amy of the system. but it's gotta be in a sense, some of these incentives need to be redesigned. i say if we do that, and he's never given me this long to that whole spiel out. [laughter] is applied. i'll stop right there because going come back at me. but we've got to shift some of the incentives to make more the people, i fear that people don't feel like working hard playing by the rules going to give them a chance. that was a good mono in the '90s but people of all backgrounds and are working harder than ever and playing by the rules and they're not i can take a fair shake. >> i will disagree with that but i will see this,
african-american unemployment is low as it's been as low as it's been since it's been reported the economy is coming 2.6 of americans are annoyed. these are numbers that nobody ever dreamed we could get to. does work for everybody no. and the challenge is how we take what has worked and expanded out and and more alluded to. this turning to ceos the business and staying hey you've got more responsibility than just your bottom line at the end of a quarter and at the end of the year. from political standpoint, and more should and does, about virginia. all turn to kentucky. we lost the governor news race there and 13 melt candidates one as well as an african-american one the attorney general saw it on in kentucky for the first time in the history of kentucky.
. . . >> they did not like the governor. i think there are people out there that are actually benefiting from the economic model that is in place but not everybody is doing it and rather than say this is the wrong model they say how do you tweak it so more people benefit and that does not recove require the actf congress, it means they have to engage and as mark knows, we believe that the model in the future is not the federal government being just a venture capital for academia or the
private sector handing over a check and they do this, here's money we will invest in this. it's an active participant. it's embedding federal employees into ventures we are doing, we did a venture to an half years ago at north carolina state to the nsa where we built a skit, this is public knowledge, $75 million, we put 26 nsa employees in the skip, we invited them in their those employees and with mathematicians and engineers to write a specific algorithm to swift big data. the story started there but did not in there. what we saw after that, a knock at the door in 17 other federal agencies dod being one and energy being another. then we saw them knock on the door and the private sector saying we want to put people in
this model and to date they have provided 30 - 35 solutions for the federal government. in addition to the algorithm they are still trained to write, when he had a problem in syria word recreational drones were dropping explosives and he saw that as the number one threat to his troops, he did not go to darpa or the dod and said find a solution, he knew the arcti arcs cannot produce it. he went to the lab and said find me a solution in 90 days that a solution in syria completely eliminated the risk of recreational drugs. >> advocate copy for virginia. >> we cannot take that example and exercise where we make safe every commercial airport in america. because we cannot deploy technology even though we have it. >> one other thing that we are wrestling with right now we both
have barely been obsessed about the challenges from china, china is a great nation, a great history but what president xi has done the last four or five years in terms of recent consolidation with the commonest party but we may be dealing with a china that will propose an economic threat unlike anything we've ever faced in her lifetime were china has laid out on the 2025 document, the technology they hope to dominate and we have all gone up and just assume it wasn't invented in america even if it was somewhere in the west we still set the rules, china now sets the rules in them a national champion and as good as technology and no market restraints because they are willing to fund that have any price point and unlimited
financing that we have a different economic model that the old notion of what will that the market sorted out they not be the solution. and to give credit on this, we really dug in to the questions around always in a lot more chapters, there is series of ideas that we may be laying out that are going to be this is a lot different than the challenges we face. >> don't leave the night believing america has lost an innovative edge. we are still the best innovator in the world, we don't deploy really well but we integrate extremely well. now we just have to figure out the architects we made for that to flow over to deployment and if we do that within the intelligence community because it goes the rest and we understand it.
[laughter] >> we cannot do it through the department of defense because we don't have the capabilities to change architecture or the whole of government. >> we have specifically asked the question of a current college student and law students as well. into give you an idea of what's on their mind and talk about impeachment. many people in view the impeachment process or the possibility into impeachment is an important check of our democracy and some would say republicans may be view this as political and democrats say no were trying to find the truth. >> i have been through impeachment, nobody wins. , end of sentence. no party wins, the american people do not win.
the stage is set, they will go down something. but listen we've traveled the world, we go to every vacation spot you always wanted to go, it's usually hot, sandy and not fun. the one thing that we are struck with is everywhere else in the world is coalition government, a special election where the leadership could be gone in 90 days. we've had four prime ministers in the uk and three in the last four years. how do you set an economic policy, how do you do anything when you leadership the changes like that. the great thing about america, we know how long the president, senator and congressman will be short of death or impeachment. the bar for impeachment was instream lehigh. i would only say to you, the test we are going to have and i think will be presented, doesn't reach the level of removal from
office? and of heard a lot of people say this president says outrageous things. there are some outrageous things released before his last election. if remember his conversation with billy bush. that did not raise to the threshold the people thought he was unqualified to be president. i'm not going to make a statement about what the outcome is because the likelihood he and i are gonna be doors and let me tell you what that means. it means that they would take it up we go into session 60s a week from 1230 until 630 and we can't say anything and the prosecutor in the president's lawyers and defense attorneys have should out with the chief justice of the supreme court comes in and rolls, we basically hear the case and then we have to come to a verdict. that will probably be six or
eight weeks processed and at the end of the day will there be more than what the impor numbern people know, i don't know. maybe we will learn something as this goes public tomorrow but everything has been public up to this point. and i would say the biggest distinction between the house and the senate, we have known for two and half years for russia investigation and until you read a report you do not know what we are going to say. that is an intentional. because we want to protect the integrity of the committee that we have been asked to be in charge of and were stewards of it as long as we are there but the president that we set is going to be picked up 20 years down the road. >> i wish we were not at where we were out. i wish we're not where were at. but i think it is incumbent and i think were all going to be
making judgments. >> will all be making a judgment to its extraordinarily important that the proceeding goes on and i hope and pray and what richard just said, we need to take a deep breath, take a step back and recognize we have a responsibility. this is a serious as it gets in our form of government. and it needs to be treated without level of seriousness. and what upsets me, again the men and women i work with on either team were jumping to conclusions either saying every made my decision that he's guilty or not guilty so that's what this player that we should be doing it with sobriety and seriousness. >> this is the last question of the evening, the most important,
what is on your iphone, what do you listen to these days. kendrick lamar? >> my kids made up the fact that my music taste and did in the late 60s. [laughter] so i've got bob dylan, motown and peter paul and mary. [laughter] >> and you said you had a foot phone. ♪ you can tell a guy that flies into many airplanes. i don't know how to shut the damn thing off. [laughter] >> let me make one last point. thank you for having me back.
richard made the comment that he gets the last word. not only have we not lost the ability to integrate. i still wouldn't trade our position with anybody else in the world. it's never been a good bet to bet against america. and i would argue at the national level we have a lot of dysfunction, but somehow at the state level or the local level the university level, there are great things happening. there are a lot more of us that actually like each other, get along, they still train everyday to take what is incredibly -- that were blessed to be americans. and take advantage of opportunities. do not lose faith and please i
don't care what party you support but do not opt out and hire rational people. >> i'm going to end on the importance of the day, veterans day. tonight there are a lot of men and women serving to defend this country and places they did not choose. and part of our military were the chain of command is the single most important thing, they are challenging and they leave the military and take the g.i. money and go to chapel hill and there a little bit dysfunctional to start with. we used to waking up and being told what to do and what time to do it. in the institutions have figured that out and put somebody in charge of the and generate wonderful people that are vets out of the institutions but mark and i had the good fortune to me a lot of these people.
in the war zones. too actually go into iraq and afghanistan and syria, to fly with them. to have them take care of us, keep us safe. antedate, neither one of them has been [bleep] about what they're doing. they're there to make sure america is protected and they don't ask or watch a media, they don't have the differences that we do as a society because they stand up to do a job and they do it. and mark and i might have different views on certain things, were also in an important role, chair and vice chair of the intelligence committee. we have a job to do. we try not to get lost in the debate between republicans and democrats were about impeachment, we have to deal with it at some point.
but we cannot neglect the responsibility that we have been given in the responsibility is to you, the american people that will conduct yourselves in a fashion that makes you proud and we will be affected. at the end of the day that's all that matters and i would love to think that 535 people you get 535 that are perfect, the two of us are not perfect so there's no hope for the 533. but, i was asked this afternoon, how will we solve the problem that we have in all challenges the same way as the students. it is with you, not with us. it's the american people. if you're intolerant and you can't find the 20% with the person next to you that you agree with and it's enough to make you shut up and go away we will not solve this problem. there is not an issue in washington that i can think of
except for presidential nominee work can be 100% because there is always going to be a rand paul or bernie, i shouldn't pick bernie he's a presidential candidate. [laughter] but there will be somebody that objects the reality is, walking away with 80% of what you wanted is good for the making people versus to take nothing because you could not get 100% and the reality is we gotta get back in the mode and part is a generational change that we have seen. i've been up there a little bit longer than mark and i've seen next year will be 18, that is unheard-of after 15 years of the united states senate. if your opponent drop it. it is happening, the american people are doing it at the ballot box and that's what should happen. but when you lose individuals and have people retire because they're frustrated and quality
individuals, the american people lose. they really do. and with my job outside of the committee is finding other people on the other side of the aisle that we can work with to past things. the last thing i'll say, we both believe the same thing. if we cannot see the human face behind what we are doing we don't spend any time on it. because that's only true motive that will get you through the process if you can actually see the person affected by the decisions that we make. thank you very much for being here. [applause face legal