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. well brazil's president, dell ma rousseff will be visiting the u.s. at the end of this month and today the atlantic council will be hosting a discussion on u.s.-brazil relations. according to reuters she'll be in washington on june 30 with the closer ties that could increase trade between the two biggest economies in the americas. panel lists include state department official, a member of the brazilian embassy and the general manager of intel. this is live coverage on c-span 3. it should start at any moment.
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once again on this friday morning we're live at the atlantic council for a discussion on u.s.-brazil relations. brazil's president dilma rousseff will be visiting the u.s. at the end of this month with the hopes of increasing ties with the united states. of course the u.s. and the americas, is part of the americas, of course, and the talks here will be looking to increase trade between the two biggest economies in the americas. this should get under way in just a moment lye here on c-span
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good morning. [ speaking foreign language ] to the atlantic council. i'm the director of the center here at the atlantic council. and on behalf of our center i wanted to thank you all for coming and joining us today for this important discussion on the upcoming visit of president dilma rousseff to washington on the 30th. this visit is potentially a big inflection point for our relations. the two countries actually need each other's friendship, its partnership, mutual political help and economic relations. and we're honored that assistant secretary roberta jay cobbson -- i want to take a moment to congratulate you on the president's incisive decision to appoint you and nominate you as ambassador to mexico. we're also lucky to have a
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friend of the centers from the brazilian embassy were a friend of our atlantic council and all of our efforts. and steve long from intel corporation who's come up from brazil. when we in washington talk about innovations, steve long breathes innovation every single day. i want to extend a warm welcome to my dear friend the atlantic council's senior fellow on brazil. the author of this great report which we're launching today. and he's someone that joe suarez, who is brazil's david letterman called brazil's most optimistic and most handsome economist. we are very pleased to be cooperating with the brazil u.s. business council on this event who work to create a constructive dialogue between important and critical stakeholders in the u.s.-brazil
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bilateral relationship. thank you to the vice president of corporate affairs after car gill. she'll give closing remarks at the end of our meeting. and because we don't always have this pleasure, i particularly want to recognize and i'm particularly delighted to have our founder here adrian arsht someone's vision who has infected the center and without whom we would never have done what we've done so far. a great word of thanks as always and thanks for being here with us. our work on brazil at the latin america center has been a priority since we began in 2013. and because this is a promising and fantastically important but yet especially complicated relationship. the dna of brazil and the united states are surprisingly similar. these two profounding western and atlantic county tris both
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have roots in the pride of undoing colonial yolk and in the tragedy of slavery. we're both melting pots of culture. our governments are both built around a constitution around civil liberties around a federal system that distributes pow tore diverse states and we both have very strong congresses. i'm sure some people would say too strong. and yet for too long we've been relegated to think that a closer relationship brings more difficulties than it brings benefits. and the worry about too much proximity has brought its share of disappointments. neither country shies away from engages with disseminations so why not with each other. this viz we think is an opportunity for brazil and the united states to work towards rebuilding long term trust but joining beyond that also towards rebuilding a long term strategic relationship. we're at a critical moment.
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the united states is at a strategic turning point where it's redefining its relationship with the hemisphere. we saw in in december with a major shift in u.s.-cuba policy. and by supporting hopefully a still pacific trade industry that include a number of latin american countries. we're also at a critical moment in brazil's history. brazil has undergone important social and economic develop lts if are the past two decades. the first phase was in the early 1990s. that was the stabilization phase. the second phase was a creative social improvement phase that brought millions out of poverty. the coming phase is going to be all about growth. kbrout isgrowth is the key to president rousseff's term and
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it's key for her ability to move brazil to more competitive and agile position. both countries are at a turning point and perhaps this time we'll get beyond modest working groups and low-balled expectations. here in the latin american center we're optimistic about this new beginning for three reasons. the tides are turning and trade policies -- on trade policies in both the u.s. and brazil. the vocal minority fears openness. there are private sector representative civil society groups, political leaders in both countries that prefer opting for the servitude protection. but the new technologies the particularly the ones that compete, the ones that innovate disrupt, they want openness and the opportunity for greater engagement. we're also seeing an increase in cooperation in research and development and that's transitioning to services as the driver of new jobs in economic
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growth. the united states and brazil are more engaged on issues of international importance like global warming and human rights in the hemisphere. that is why we, in partnership with ore brazil fellow, are launching this report that includes recommendations not only about how to improve the bilateral relationship today in 2015 but how to structure and revitalize the relationship for years to come in the future. and part of that revitalization surrounds one player that's here to speak to us today, assistant secretary jacobson your leadership and years of service in the bureau of western hemispheres affairs have been extraordinary. you sure have helped excite us latin americaists who are grown far to accustoms to being on the back burner. since you oo been there things have been on the front burner and it's been great. most recently we've watched with admiration as you've skillfully managed the negotiations in the
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historic u.s.-cuba opening. i've been grateful for you friendship and our loss will be mexico city's gain. your insight today into the visit and into u.s.-brazil relations will be invaluable. and so thank you for coming to speak to us. thank you for the working on the positive relations between our two countries and. and so it's my real pleasure to introduce assistant secretary roberta jacobson who will deliver the keynote address. [ applause ] >> well, thank you very much peter. i actually am really tempted to come up here and just say what he said. done. i want to thank you and the atlantic council for having me here today and thank you all for being here. but in particular i want to echo peter's remarks as adrian's
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presence here today. i think that this center has made its presence felt in washington and around the hemisphere remarkably quickly with very high quality events. my other presence excepted. but really, really added to the debate the presence and putting this region on the front burner for discussion in a way that's extraordinarily helpful for all of us. thank you adrian for your support and advancing of this dialogue and policy recommendations. i also want to say a word about the report that's being launched. because for policymakers, we have far too many time to read reports but they are essential for us. because we have so little time to be thinking out beyond 3:00 this afternoon or tomorrow, we rely upon the people who can and who can step back a bit from the
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day to day relationship to help stimulate our possibilities and our thoughts and the bigger picture vision. so thank you ricardo for that. i think there are a world of wonderful ideas in there and i hope all of you will take it and read it as well. i think that for, for the united states and for brazil, this visit really is critical. but i also think of this entire year in a way as the year of the u.s. and brazil. for us this is the beginning in a real way of a new chapter in our relationship. we are as peter well said, countries with so many similarities and we really are natural partners. in many ways, it is really much more artificial for us to be intentioned than it is for us to be working together.
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we do share the democratic value and the commitment to disverity. and i think in the current world that we're living in whether it is religious or ethnic strife were cultural difficulties boundary difficulties these are things that we have not necessarily experienced recently or are committed to overcoming together. but our relationship has been tested over the last 18 months or so. and there's no doubt that because of that we look to june 30th as a way to relaunch that relationship. but the recent drum beat of engagements i think allow us to think of this year as a way to kind of ramp things up preparing for this presidential engagement without the usual sense of maybe we will not meet expectations. in march we held our commercial dialogue and signed agreements
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harmonizing standards and exchanging information on trade facilitation. in april the president's met at the summit of americas and discussed cooperation. i should have started that with the vice president's attendance at dilma's second inaugural. i was present at both of those meetings. in may we convened the joint commission meeting on science and technology deepening our cooperation on science, technology and innovation. this week u.s.-brazil forum brought together leeshds formulateing recommendations on how to strengthen the commercial relationship. you can see there's a pretty steady reengagement which i think was very clearly set down by president rousseff on jan 1st when we took office again. obviously you all know the statistics on two-way trade. but i think it's significant to look at the way the trade is --
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what it's made up of. more than 1500 products and services that total an estimated $109 billion in 2014. the figures that we look at in terms of fdi and the two-way investment are very large, but we know there's a lot of head room there. we know they could be larger. so we're looking at as big ideas as we can to try and really boost this relationship. we're about to sign a social security totalization agreement. an incredibly boring name. we have 22 or 23 agreements. nobody thinks the title means much. it's incredibly important. it eliminates dual social security. this is really important because more and more of our folks are working in other countries.
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steve can tell you that when you have workers from the united states work in brazil or vice versa, you need to make sure that people have made whole when they retire and have their pensions, or that they aren't contributing twice. with trade and investment rapidly growing between wour two countries, we estimate this will save u.s. and brazilian companies more than $900 million over the first six year. we're working together on the small business network of the americas. in both countries we know that despite all of our talk about the big companies, small businesses are the job generators. and so we are connecting thousands of small business development centers and business incubators in the two countries. one example, just to give you a personal example of an individual, the man who founded stan service, display booths for trade shows and other events when he was 19.
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that business now has 16 employees and serves hundreds of clients. but he noticed the potential to promote community change and he organized an event in brazil and created the first south american hub for the sand box network of young entrepreneurs. so now what he's doing is facilitating entrepreneurship training and advocating for public policies. he didn't stop at just creating his own company. he went on to be an advocate for that in public policy. we move on to the area of climate change and sustainable energy which will be an important one in the coming visit. under the green ocean amazon or go amazon partnership we're conducting joint field experiments in the amazon using cutting edge technology to develop clean are ways to meet the country's energy needs. we know that conservation must
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also be part of the solution so we're promoting industrial energy efficiency. so i think we know that it's extremely lyly promising when the kmims the size of the united states and brazil cooperate together on this range of renewable energy cooperation and clean energy cooperation. but as somebody very wise once said, we also know that when climate agreements have been reached, it has always been when the u.s. and the brazilian governments work together. that may not be causality but it's not just coincidence. so we need to be working together ahead of paris. and the final thing i want to mention is education where via our hundred hours strong tens of thousands of students have seized the opportunity to study in the u.s. and bring their newfound knowledge back to brazil and vice versa.
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one such individual was selected to study in the u.s. through the scientific mobility problem in washington. he interned at nasa's space flight center and was chosen from among 129,000 applicants to travel into space with space expeditions an american company. he will be the first brazilian civilian to go into space and only the second brazilian ever. and we're now exploring how we can build on those kinds of successes and extend or cooperation into areas of technical and vocational education. this is critical. this is critical for both of our countries. we move into areas like science technology and health by education and technical training. so we know that an estimated 374 million internet users in the united states and brazil combined in 2014 rank among the top users of social media and youtube. and we intend to continue
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forming the next generation of inno varieties. a young innovator from brazil who participated in the launch program, a platform founded by nasa, nike, usid that provides mentoring for innovation from influential business and government leaders. he's now working to commercialize the award winning using chemicals derived from oranges to clean up oil spills. all of those specific examples are just a few among hundreds that we need to expand to thousands and then millions. and that's really what this visit is about. taking those examples and making them institutionalized routine and growing them so that the relationship produces those kinds of exchanges and human
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beings every day of the year. i think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship and getting this relationship back on track and we're very optimistic for the future of the bilateral relationship. thank you very much. [ applause ] i'm going to grab my coffee. >> okay. >> thank youcy sis tant secretary for that kellen yof view. as peter said, for all of your amazing forward thinking work leading our effort obviously with brazil but across the entire hemisphere. your remarks just now show yet again while the united states is so lucky to have you as our
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assistant secretary of state and why you'll be sorely missed when you go to mexico stip. i'm the deputy director of the adrian arsht latin america center. and i'm thrill we have three other leaders with us to give awe preview not only of president rousseff's visit but really what should be part of the agenda. as peter said, we're incredibly bullish on brazil and the many possibilities that this particular moment brings for advancing the bilateral agenda. peter briefly mentioned some of the other panelists. you have everyone's full bios. i'm sure you don't want me to read them. but to roberta is bologna. he's the deputy chief of mission. and he brings over 20 years of experience. and working every from al jeers.
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in addition to that a fountain of knowledge on the u.s.-brazil bilateral negotiation. so his left is steve log. steve is the vice president and general manager of the latin america region at intel corporation. steve leads intel's work across the region and is an incredibly forward thinking business leader in one of the areas of most right cooperation between the u.s. and brazil. to steve's left is our very handsome nonresident brazil fellow ricardo. he's smiling with that introduction. thanks ricardo. ricardo, like steve, is joining us from sao paulo. he has two other jobs. also the managing partner at a consulting firm in brazil as well as the general coordinator of the group of international analysis at the university of so
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pa rolo. if you could give out a black belt, we would give that black belt to ricardo. we're going to begin with conversation today by looking at the state of u.s.-brazil relations then we're going to move on to previewing the visit what may come out of it and what the future may hold for cooperation on a number of issues. one of the key questions we're going to answer as part of this panel today is will this visit lay the foundation for moving forward from working level cooperation to bold far reaching collaboration between the u.s. and brazil. i'm going to conduct the panel in a format. we're going to have as much as a free ranging conversation as possible between the panelists and leave ample time in the end for questions from the audience. again this is public. this is on the record. and it's also being webcast. if you have questions, please tweet your questions. and if you want to bring out our
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phones during the event, only for tweeting purposes, you can tweet using the #scbrazil. and if you're feeling like you're in the right spot, this is the palace and that the blinds close behind you, the ocean is right here behind us right? let's start off our clfrgs by looking at relations now. roberta, this's much talk -- you mentioned this in our opening remarks about this business being a reset in relations after the brazilian president canceled the visit in the wake of the snoeden affair. that happened in august of 2013. there was no coincidence between that. but there's been a number of visits exchanges and working groups that have continued. as we head into this visit -- you mentioned a few in your opening remarking, education, science, innovation.
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in which areas would you say the relationship is the strongest and in which areas is there is the most opportunity to kind of further build on some of the strengths that we already have? >> i think in the end people will be somewhat surprised by how many areas we with going to be able to move forward in. maybe some of this is because things slowed down for a while. although i would make the point that they never stopped. they really didn't ever stop. there was a lot of work going on, it just wasn't at the highest level and it wasn't as high profile. the two countries are -- they do too much together every day for it to stop ever. but there will be, i think you know, a focus on education, there will be certainly a focus continued focus on science and technology, health cooperation as areas that both presidents are committed to. but i also think that there will be movement on defense cooperation as a part of this
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visit. i think there will be a lot of discussion around obviously climate change and how we can work together in that area. i think that you'll see conversations about regional issues, things going on in the hemisphere as well as global concerns that both countries have, whether it's continued cooperation in food security and africa or peacekeeping cooperation where obviously brazil has been so important in its leading role in haiti. so i think there are a lot of different areas that you'll see cooperation on as well as some of the things that may be you know prospects for new cooperation in trade. >> we'll get back to some of these drilling down on some of the different areas that we can move forward on regional and global issues.
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from your per speck stif, where do you see the relationship as strongest? >> let me start by thanking you for your nice introduction and for the invitation, especially not only you but also peter and natalie. and i also knew the name and the brand adrian arsht. but not the person. it was nice to meet the person that brought the new vision to the u.s.-latin america relations. and i was really to hear the title of the event. you nationed a new era of u.s. and brazil relations. i think that era is too large a period of time. i don't think we need a new era. but i would like to echo what assistant secretary jacobson said about the new chapter. it's not the first chapter. it's not introduction. it's an additional chapter in the long book, an exciting book about friendship. friendship that started in the early 19th century with the as
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you know the u.s. was the first country to recognize our independence. and it got strengthened during the two world wars brazil being the only country that sent troops to europe to fight alongside the u.s. in both world wars. and it survived the yup hooefls of the '60s, '70s, the '80s and got boosed by the new types of trade investment and people-to-pooem contact over the last 30 years. we're building on something that is already very solid. and i think this visit will be a knew chapter. the main a areas i divide into three baskets. economic trade investments there will be deliverable in this area. education, science and technology is another basket. and the third one would be about international or global issues.
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and i think that assistant secretary has already mentioned a few more specific issues. i will save the surprises for the visit. i request not give you a list of deliverables right now. but i think that we have -- we will have a very good outcome in these three main areas. >> and i think you put in the context of a new chapter i think is really important. we auchl times tend to focus on just what's happened in the last year and last two years but not looking at the history between the u.s. and brazil which is incredibly strong. ricardo in the paper we're releasing today u.s.-brazil relations, a new beginning there's actually a question mark there. how to strengthen the bilateral agenda. you mentioned these issues that have been mentioned, investment, trade, education technology, innovation. give a brief -- i know it's a 20-page report. i'm asking you to do it in two
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minutes. give a brief snapshot of the report and why you see these as some of the top issues. >> thank you for the invitation. i think roberta said a little bit what was the key for these right now and he made reference in terms of a new chapter. we have a chance now to have a new -- not a normal chapter, a new chapter. why i'm saying that. i'm trying to put this in the paper to express this in the paper. i think the potential for collaboration between the u.s. and brazil, i think it's amazing. i don't have to mention it. but since the history about the fed raism, the way we moved forward to the west, all these elements that give to is sites the immigration, the diversity it's amazing the number of similarities.
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so we have structural opportunities to cooperate. this is the first part of the argument. the second is even though we do have this enormous ability to be cooperation, but we have a lack of understanding, a deep understanding. it say seem strange to say that, that we have a lack of knowledge between the two elites in a sense, how you're viewed winner coalition, political winner coalition between the two countries. this is the key element. we don't lack issues for the agenda. i tried to put this in the paper. we have a bunch of elements. but the point is why you're not moving on in this sense. and i tried to express in the paper that we -- of course we do have some opportunity to build a new coalition. and as you said, that we need to
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start in the next day the after the meetings the top level meetings. so the point is how we follow-up these, all these that we'll have next week in order to implement what the potential is. and i think the key element is how we viewed orco ligs in terms of continuing to implement these opportunities. >> that's great. we're going to get into some of these questions on what happens on july 1st. steve among the many areas of cooperation ricardo mentions innovation. and the report roberta mentioned it it's a top bilateral issue. and we of course at the atlantic council agree and that's whee we're so excited to have you on the panel. how would you assess at this point the level of cooperation in innovation, you know, insofar as the business ties, the
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university ties, the whole gamut? roberta mentioned a couple of examples. and also what's possible? >> first and foremost, thanks for allowing me to be the private sector view on the panel. it's an honor to be here. i'm also the guy with the smallest title so you can tell i'm from the private sector. thanks for the opportunity. look, first so i'm probably going to be biassed because i'm coming at it from an intel point of view. i'm representing intel cooperation. we've had a history of working for over 30 years in brazil and we believe that frankly technology transforms societies, transforms lives. that is our mission statement, our vision. that's what we're about. we believe obviously with intel inside, that makes it more possible. in brazil specifically i think we've got our -- if i can use an analogy, i think we have our toe in the water right now. what we've tried to do, again
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because technology transforms live, the brazilian policies up until now have been ones where they've tried to attack investment and tried to spur r and d activities in the country that they would think would have ripple effects across the country. while that's good, a lot of times they're more focused on trying to pull the private sector in as opposed to having the private sector solve a problem. what technology does and can transform, i think anything that comes out of this visit, it needs to have -- i think you used the word you know what are we going to do on july 1st. it needs to be tangible. in the private sector we do a lot of things where we set up plans. what are the metrics, what are the next steps of the plans. and i think on information technology it should be -- it should transcend the entire agenda i think. because in every one of the sectors that you guys have all mentioned, technology can transform things faster, make things more efficient and we
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think it should be at the forefront of the agenda. >> what are some of the signals that you'll be keeping an eye out for from a private sector standpoint? >> so for first and foremost i hope -- i agree with all of the panelists so far who said it's a sign that the visit is happening. it's a good sign in terms of at least hey, stability of the relationship. i think that's very important that we see a strong message of stability. i think the other thing around some tangible cooperation areas was specific metrics and next steps on what's going to happy i think that needs to be -- at least published on time lines of when the next steps are going to happen. again i'm biassed but i think technology should be across every one of those things allowing broader access. i mean there should be things around, you know access to keeper broadband you know
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building out the highways, the dick tall highways in brazil. i think that's fundamental for anything that happens. education, while brazilian education over the last decade has improved the average education of a brazilian has been in the fifth grade they're now in the middle eighth grade, that ice improved. there's still a big opportunity and i think technology can improve on that. >> going back to -- before we dive deeper into the specifics of the issues, could you elaborate on what specifically are some of the u.s. goals for the visit? you know we're going to sign a bunch of agreements, we'll talk about some of what those agreements right look bike. but in a broader sense, what needs to be established to move the relationship to the next level? is it signing you know x amount of new agreements or is there something more fundamental that needs to be established? >> i think there's a couple of things. i do think that presidential
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visits in and of themselves are -- they do two things frankly. they are both symbolic and important as public demonstrations of a relationship and where it stands right? and so in this particular relationship i think a public demonstration of the relationship being healthy again between the two leaders is very important. the relationship can be incredibly busy and dynamic underneath. but if there is no an external perception that it's healthy at the top that's a problem. and unfortunately it hasn't been that way since the postponement of the relationship despite the fact that i think it has been getting better for months now. i think this visit will kind of solidify that in the public mind, that this is, this is a
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healthy relationship moving forward. but i also think as bureaucrats know, that presidential meetings are action-forcing events. you get things done and you move forward on things thereafter to get at the july 1st question because of a visit on june 30th. so the agreement that maybe wouldn't have gotten done by another six months you get done by that time. or maybe you engage at a more aggressive pace oncoming to some conclusions about how you're going to work together on climate change ahead of paris. i think in all of these areas this visit can help us accelerate the pace of our engagement. so i don't know that it is a quantifiable number of agreements signed. it is a reflection of the
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breadth of the relationship certainly. and a reflection that kind of we're back. it is certainly a review for the public of what has been happening over the last few months as we have accelerated or dialogues, our private sectors back in touch with each other presenting recommendation to the leader et cetera. and i hope a way of stimulating movement in both of our political lives to move this relationship forward where it may be stuck. you know, there was a mention by peter, i think, of our legislative branches, which in our both very lively and robust democracies means that each of us has to take a kaunt of what we can do in our congresses. and we each have very engaged
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congresses. which means that we have to be able to go to our legislative branches and explain why this is good for our country and you know, how we're going to be able to sell this. so presidential visits are incredibly important because they are part of the promotional pitch, if you will, to our own legislatures as to why this is in the interest of our countries to move ahead on things that may be politically risky. so when we talk about big ideas or anything movements in the relationship, i don't think we should underestimate the importance of these visits or the individual agreements or the political statements made as being critical to each leader when they then go to their legislators, their interest groups, their stakeholders, whatever you want to call them and say, it's time to move
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forward on something that i realize you may not be 100% comfortable with because i have a commitment to do x. so i think it is, you know, what we're looking for out of this visit is an affirmation from both sides to move ahead quickly on some very important areas of cooperation. and the other thing is i think an affirmation of the two of us working together on global issues. we haven't touched on that quite as much. but with so many difficulties around the world, we need the capabilities that brazil brings to the table and to be working with them elsewhere. >> and we -- yeah, please go. >> this idea that we're about to mention, in a sense that i full agree with your idea that in terms of to follow up these meetings, of course the symbol of this meeting is very
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important from both sides, but mainly from the brazilian side, the reconnection, for obama it's very important. but i think bring us to the idea that this coalition that i mentioned should include the. this coalition should involve civil, businesses, some areas of the political establishment in both countries. i think the challenge for us right now is try to identify, i would say we -- all of the stakeholders from this discussion. but how we can connect the dots. just the top level meetings will not create a new environment. but trying to put together this kind of business community or
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bureaucracy that is much engaged in the positive agenda, this is the critical element to check to see if we have a new chapter for a new part of the book. >> it's one thing that's always been lacking in the u.s.-brazil relationship, having a coalition. and frankly a lot of other countries that are important to the u.s., there are those types of coalitions. >> it's really important to stress that -- well, the visit, when the presidents get together it's a strong signal. but if you look not at this snap shots of any given moment in our relationship. let's look at the movie. and the movie tells a different story. more complex narrative. and relations that is growing in complexity. and as it grows in complexity and volume, it becomes even more important for the high leaders of the countries to get together and to have a good high level
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dialogue. because it's more difficult because now it's not only picking up the low hanging fruits. now we have to make an effort that's much more difficult. sometimes it has to do with legislation. you have to involve the legislative branch and civil society in order to move things forward if you want to make things move forward and advance in this relation. when it is already very complex as it is in the case of brazil and the u.s. >> maybe start to climb up the apple tree a little bit. just a quick question. when the option was presented to president rousseff about coming to washington, there was an option of an official visit which she's doing in ten days, or a state visit further down the road why does president rousseff, why is she choosing to visit washington now and what is this -- from the brazilian government perspective, what are
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you hoping are some of the results that come out of this visit? >> why she came now. because she wanted to come as fast as possible. and the schedule would not allow for her to have the state visit this year. but we are seeing this visit as a special visit. it's not just a working visit. it's an official visit with lots of elements that show it will have pomp and circumstance. and the importance that the american government is attaching to this visit is well-known and we appreciate that very much. and so you will see when she comes that by the signals and the gestures that are included in this visit that it's a very important visit and it will be a very strong signal. i don't want to get into the details of the program its. but what i can tell you is that
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the brazilian government and the president herself is very much satisfied with the visit and the preparations for the visit. >> that's great. steve, you wanted to -- >> no. i was going to is committing to the next state or the next check point, right? and if i you know if presidential visits are used how we use our executive office visits to our countries, they are check points and they are points where you've got to report out on what you just did so the last time the conversations happened until now, we can't let that happen again and that would be amazinging outcome from a private sector point of view to put the right level of urgency on all parties in all of the folks involved like you said to get things done. >> let's drill down more on the substance on what might come out of the visit and of course, what can be said as a preview. you mentioned a couple of issues. we talked about science
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technology. health education. then you've mentioned defense cooperation. climate change. collaboration on regional issues and global issues. food security one of the global issues. further into depth, there's been a lot of talk about climate change being a marquee agreement that might come out of this. at this point, what might you say -- the bedrock and foundation that's dpoipg going to come out of this. and then also if you could talk more about kind of beyond just u.s. brazil what are some of the areas of cooperation from the u.s. perspective that we're looking at brazil to better partner with us on regional global issues? >> it's a fair question jason, but i'm afraid i may disappoint you in the answer. i think like benoni, i tend to
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like to leave some of this to my president to announce on the 30th. presidents get a little testy when we preview their issues, which is not to say we aren't talking about the areas of interest we're going to be discussing. and i would not say although i think this administration places the obama administration places a very great importance on moving towards the climate conference in paris in the fall and trying to work with brazil on that, it's really hard to say that that's somehow the center piece of this because there is so much, there's a great deal of diversity in what we're going to be talking about in this visit so i'm loathed to say there's a piece that's the thing. that we want to, that's the barometer of whether we succeed or fail. i think that's not, that's just
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not the way we measure this visit. in some respects, it's more a question of you know we've got ten or 15 things all of them very important. and in a way, it is the breadth of it that is the measure of how important. i also think that as benoni said, the fact there is a part of this visit that we'll talk about the economic and trade relationship, which in some respects, has been a difficult part of the relationship over the years, is a very important part of this visit. that there is you know an ability to talk about that, to you know work together on trade facilitation agreement, you know, those things that maybe wasn't always the case, so, picking one and saying it's the bedrock is really i think not quite possible.
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to be under discussion there's no doubt that every meeting we've had regionally or with individual countries that are important such as brazil lately, have touched on the issues in venezuela. i just don't think any of us can escape that these days. i think that's also true on haiti as we approach the elections and it's got to be true given each of our country's critical roles in haiti. i think the leaders will discuss haiti and how they see things going forward. again, i think our ability to partner with prabrazil in other places as the president looks forward to the peace keeping summit that he will hold in the fall at the u.n. general assembly and brazil's obviously critical role as leader of the mission in haiti is another area
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that will be discussed. >> one of the things we mentioned, rick ard o mentioned the paper, eliminating trade barriers and talking about the service sector. moving beyond goods and what there is as we see as right for growth, u.s. brazil is service sector. is that you know, i know we can't preview too much of the visit, but do you see some potential for movement on facilitating a better trade and a services? >> you know, i think that we at the u.s. have been in a position of being ready to talk about greater engagement on trade issues for a while now. so i think that you know, it's certainly something of interest to us but it's a question of taking that issue at the pace of our brazilian colleagues.
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not shufure that i can get much further in on it at this point. >> something about the result of the visit or of how the visiting packs, the bureaucracy and looking ahead you know the president has just said to the visiting congress, two reports. one of them it said defense appropriation agreement. appears not to be that crucial from you know -- the history of relationship, but this agreement is very important. the last time we had such kind of agreement was 1977. it was an agreement signed in the '50s during the cold war and in '77 we denounced this
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agreement and we since then, we have not had this any agreement in the defense area. now we have an agreement that has just been sent to the congress because of this visit. and because we think that is very important and it was a strong signal from the brazilian side that we want to improve our relations in defense and cooperation of this area and moving forward, also create new partnerships for our defense industries. and with regard to the global issue of climate change it's just also a priority for brazilian, for president yusef and this is something we can work together to move the global journey forward and this is because brazil and the u.s. have done a lot in this area. it's not that we are just announced you know, targets and we didn't do anything. because it's really easy to
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announce targets. the difficult part is to comply with this. and we overcome pli. so, we are in the position to lead this movement, we have the respect to respect differences of deals. there is a a lot of agreement. we are really confident that brazilian and the u.s., we work together to a good outcome. >> there's been some signals from the government, about trade. facilitation, right, and that we were going to look at whether those signals from our brazilian friends on this. there's been some signals about maybe some type of new thinking, do you see a potential for moving forward on eliminating some of the trade barriers between the two country sns. >> our minister of development came to the u.s. his first
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visit to a foreign country in february this year. and it's just really a priority for the united states is our second trade partner and our first, first destination of manufactured goods, so it's really important for us, but i think there is an emphasis. now, on trying to eliminate tariffs, not tariff barriers to the trade with trade facilitation, there are some studies in brazil that show if we move fast in this area we can increase the short one. the trade by 10% or even more than that. so it is something that will have a positive consequence in a short run. if you engage in the very more comprehensive negotiations that's for long-term, we have to
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create momentum in this relations and the trade facilitation era, new era and with that, apart from trade facileitation facilitation, the other area you're working on to try to move things forward and both areas can have a positive impact in short, so that's the main emp sis right now. >> steve, your on metrics here. >> have to be. >> you have to be. i want to ask you from your private sector perspective, business to business engagement i think is so critical. very different from the u.s. relationship with a lot of countries. oftentimes, the relationship is in a government to government level. in many ways, the fruits of collaboration between the two countries is happens with the private sector. brazilian companies provide tens of thousands of u.s. jobs and
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vice versa. talk about what do you see as some of the obstacles from a u.s. company standpoint that are currently in place for u.s. based brazilians looking to expand to the brazilian market both as a result of u.s. policy and as a result of brazilian policy and what sort of policy changes would need to happen to make companies like intel other multinational corporations and small and medium sized see greater opportunity? >> good question. first and foremost, 200 million people rising middle class 100 plus million people are already in the workforce. rising education levels. the stage is set for brazil and the bra sill yan population, the economy, for businesses to do more in the country, so i want to start with that. and say also we've got almost 30 years working in the country.
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that said, there are opportunities to go faster. i think every multinational when they look at brazil other markets, they recognize some of the markets. be that complexities on and take a world bank, the world bank puts out an index which measures ease of doing business. and when you look at that metric brazil's upwards of 66 percentile, where as some of the other latin american countries are more in the top third percentile, so that metric looks at things like how quick can you open a business, how easy is it to get in and hire people. so i think there are some thing, very basic things we could do to enable you know velocity on that front. i think velocity again, technology can enable that through that. some of the localization requirements in brazil there
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are opportunities for the government, for the policymakers to look at things like you know, measures and metrics of adoption of ict are really the way to look at it as opposed to just saying hey, let's how the ict is produced in countries. that would enable a more thriving ecosystem that would generate these hundreds of millions of workers that would then self-sustain. >> there's a huge amount of u.s. investment in brazil. we are reminded a few weeks ago by the chinese premier's visit $53 billion in agreements signed, we don't know if that's going to come to fruition, but still, and you know there's still a many more companies, many more u.s. companies and chinese companies investing in brazil. china overtook the u.s. a few years ago. what could be you know, if imagine if more of this, if more of this business was going to
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u.s. companies than chinese companies. what could be done on this front to really from a business perspective, kind of allow u.s. businesses to be able to kind of, to thrive in the brazilian market at a time when there's you know, increasing interest from other strong countries. >> so look, i don't think it's a china or u.s. it's a china and u.s. i think that's why we're sit issing here today and hopeful or all of us have hope for what will come out of this. i think now's the time for the u.s. to look u.s. and brazil need each other. those 200 million consumers, great opportunity. i think there's lots of things that brazil can get in gain if they provide easier access and vice versa.
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so, i hope it's an and conversation more than just what is china doing. i'd love to see similar agreements with tricks and actions below those that we can all go and make use of. >> roberta you're nodding your head yes as well. >> i think far too often, the question is is, what are you doing about the chinese incursion into latin america? this has to be an and conversation. as long as everybody plays by the rules. >> yep. >> there was a critical point when the u.s. about china and u.s. i think there are two completely different conversations between the u.s. and brazil and china. dealing with china, tracked very basic investments for
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infrastructure, so, is a difference. i think the challenge for brazil in the u.s. right now is try to move negotiations for a more sophisticated level. that means regular issues are the key element right now. i think tariffs are not anymore access to -- we are talking about how we can make a convert between the way u.s. developed technology and the brazilian companies develop technology. how we approach the issues the framework for the internet governance. this kind of more substantive issues has nothing to do with the china brazil relations. in this sense we have an opportunity again in a sense that we have avenue for dealing or in converge with u.s. in this sense and we do not, just don't have this opportunity of china.
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china is isa completely different. we cannot avoid to have a more closed relation with china. it is not as strategic as with u.s. to answer, a few years and i agree completely that it's not china or the u.s. we see in brazil sperinternational affairs as more of not as a zero sum game and we are better at addition and multiplication than subtraction and division. so we see this as the compliment and helps us to explore new opportunities for development. with regard to the investing i think that in this area of technologies, several companies american companies are investing in research and development in brazil apart from intel, we have new investments in p and d and r and d.
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by several companies that are here today. microsoft, dupont, ge and several others. that are investing in brazil. in this era. and we need to have our human resources training, trained to meet this new demand of engineers, or mathematicians, you know, that and in this regard this is why the cooperation with the united states is so important. receiving brazilian students, over 20,000 of them have come to the u.s. and are going back with this new baggage. not only the knowledge itself, but also they are learning the system is how it works, how to make things happen and they will be ambassadors of the united states in brazil. and something that people sometimes do not realize and that it was an entire idea of president yusef.
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she had this vision and she is implementing that. and you are bringing back several brazilians that will become advocates of stronger brazil u.s. relationship. that's real important. >> we've been talking about the kind of business to business engagement or pr u.s. companies investing in brazil but it's important to point out the number of brazilian companies invest nging in companies as well. >> there is a new study it was sponsored by brazilian trade and promotion agency. apex brazil and by the brazil industry corporation. it is amazing the findings they
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have in this new report. i won't tell everything because it's just too confidential. i can tell just one. between 2001 and 2012, brazil was the emerging country whose knows to the u.s. increased the most, which is impressive. who are the emerging countries, right? >> of course. >> and nowadays. >> i like to travel. i'm in rio right now. if you like to trafl travel, there's a good chance you'll fly on a brazilian aircraft and if you get hungry, you can order a brazilian hamburger and drink a brazilian beer or orange juice in a cup made with plastic manufactured in a u.s. but a
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brazilian petro chemical company and after that, you're going to pay with your money in an account in a brazilian bank in the u.s. so, that gives you an idea that something that it would not be possible 20 years ago and now, it is. >> i think i know my lunch plans. there's oftentimes, there's that lack of recognition how important brazilian multinationals are and how many jobs they provide. >> there will be findings, i won't tell the numbers now, so that why spoil the event of next week. >> we're going to use the last 20 minutes to take, i have plenty more questions. i'm sure you don't want to hear mine, so we'll take the remainder to ask fors from the audience. if you're watching via web cast you can tweet your question. if you have a question, raise your hand. there will be microphones floating around.
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i see first question over there. if you could identify yourself by name and organization and keep your -- >> good morning. a correspondent of brazilian newspaper global. if we were having this conversation five or ten year ago, in a visit in a meeting between the two presidents, would be about to happen we would certainly be discussing support for brazil in the security comes of the united nations. i have this curiosity. why isn't this an issue anymore? what has changed from the brazilian and the american perspective? thank you. >> thank you. >> my panel to see i think we want to go -- >> trying to take the answer in a sense that there's two very important movement in this meeting. between the two presidents. that's the defense and some element of the global issues
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like environment. why this is so important? from a strategic sense, we can understand understand this kind of agreements. preliminary agreements as a way that these two countries are going in a direction that we finally find a common ground between the two countries. i think this more broad political agreement between the u.s. and brazil is two ways the element that lacks to defind a more concrete agenda. these other countries do have a broad platform.
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discuss this kind of vision. the element that we are allowed to be a part of the secret counsel, but there are two or three issues that i would say, defense issue between brazil and u.s. used to be a very complicated element. now, we have a start to have a convergence. very important in terms of strategic political approach. >> just want to preface about saying brazil 100% but -- take
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away what are -- because it might be a bit more talk than substance. >> i'm sorry, but you're not going get -- i think i'm going to get, that's how you stay for 30 years. >> i have a mission for you. there's no reason to be skeptical skeptical. >> there you go. >> look, if i think the biggest thing would be a missed opportunity, right if nothing tangible comes out of it that would be the skepticism. nothing tangible. you could argue businesses or groups that want action out of this can get frustrated because there is an action, but again, given where we've come from to where it is you know i think
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it's upside. >> it seems unlikely given the breadth of the conversation we've had today from education to science technology to defense cooperation to climate change to global regional issues and ten other issues. but thanks for that dose of skepticism. >> i saw another question. yes, first row over here. first row, then the last back there. >> you talked a couple of years ago to kind of -- to the u.s. the center of -- a couple of months ago, a u.s. company and tech from brazil signed a deal with if brazilian navy to try to fix the carrier that has been broken. i was wondering if you could talk more about when president yusef comes to washington. >> defense deals and the question in the back row, please.
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>> hi, teresa walsh u.s. news and world report. i was wondering if you can expand a little on the brief comments you made and speak a little bit about how the brazil and the united states can collaborate with regards to the situation in venezuela and the growing political -- there. the thank you. >> thanks. >> on the first issue on the defense issues, i think i'm not necessarily the right pen person to answer in terms of any specifics. i think there will be a bilateral meeting between defense secretaries ahead of the presidential meeting and that's where you may see you know more specifics come out of this, but there is clearly an interest in moving forward on defense cooperation and having more
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cooperation between the two governmental sides and defense enter stri issues. but i think my brethren at the department of defense would probably be better qualified to give a broader answer than that. has anything more. >> should mention the defense itself, but something that is related to that, the air and space sfris. strz the american company that partnered to create a research center in social compass, san paulo and this is something very interesting. it will help us to reduce the missions in the future. and the center's doing very well and there are some products in the market being tested and see
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if they qualified for commercial use, so maybe in the future, we have brazil and the u.s., the private sector partnering to sell this kind of products which is a lot of value in materials of research. and development. and this will also be very competitive advantage in the future since we have all countries will have to reduce the issues. >> the question on venezuela. >> let me say on that question, i think that we believe that and have for a long time, that brazil is is a crucial actor on venezuela. it's influence is critical. not only bilaterally with venezuela because of their relationship, but obviously, within -- which has played an important role in venezuela and at certainly at one time, three foreign ministers from brazil,
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ecuador and colombia were playing a pretty crucial role. we hope that can reemerge in terms of getting a date set for elections, freeing political prisoners, especially those on hunger strikes right now. this is particularly important. so, i think the leaders are certainly going to speak about the importance of moving ahead as both of them have individually. on the elections issue moving ahead on many of the concerns that they have in venezuela. >> thank you. other questions. yeah, the second row. then peter has a question as well. >> i'm mark with the brazil u.s. business council. how might this visit help doma politically dmoesicily.
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>> i'm sure peter has softball here. adam? >> i just want to ask if we could address on some of the reforms happening in brazil and of course, the bilateral relationship is critical but things can't happen unless some of the changes that the president is proposing and the finance minister is proposing are going to occur and i'd love to hear about that. zpl great thanks. would you like to start on the reforms. i think from the political side is it very important -- facing a very complicated domestic political contest.
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she was leading our breaking down. and part of this situation has to do with the on the position groups, the right side of the political spectrum and when doma in this contest, has this meeting with u.s., should try to recover part of the issues that used to be associated for a more liberal or a right wing groups. so, i think for her, it's very important, the timing of this meet in a sense that try to indicate for the society, look k i'm not just national or whatever leader. but also have this kind of global engagement relationship with u.s. so, for her, i think it's very important. it's an opportunity for her to have an assess to the media that
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used to in a position to her to have a good agenda with the brazilian media, also, so i think it's very important for the political side. >> would you like to address mark's question? >> again, i think the economic reform, so, the status, i'll let my colleagues comment on the status of the reform but i think again, we need to see businesses need to see ease of doing business in the country. some of the ease of doing business has to do with reform and tax structures that need to happen and as they happen, i think you'll see more confidence in the private sector to do, to continue investment that four or
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five years ago was pretty obvious and evident. a lot of folks are looking for that stability. >> the president sent two bills to the congress yesterday about terrorism. those means that we can see movement in global entry for a visit and also, we can see some increasing tourism flow from u.s. to brazil? >> i anticipate that there will be a president obamaositive conversation on global entry as heart of this visit. i don't know whether that will be that will be an announcement
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of empation. it's getting kind of close, but we are pleased by movement of the bills and we're going to continue to discuss with brazil how to move forward on that issue. >> just to add, some of low hanging fruit from private sector perspective, it's getting visitors into the country. i have a realtime example -- and some of his entourage or vice versa, we have folks trying to come to the united states to do exchange programs, things of that nature that complexity on our side saying our side because i have a u.s. passport is equally not easy to do. i again, i view that as low hanging fruit. >> i think the global question
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is also a matter of what else is set up to happen in the future. to kind of push things forward that might not have happened for six months and to give it that presidential direction the make that happen. just a quick final question. ricardo ricardo, what must happen in washington for the trip to be a win for doma? for doma to come back to brazil and say this trip was successful? >> i think from the washington perspective and i probably the private sector, american private sector perspective i think the clear indication there is room for improvement in terms of the economic gains for brazilian economy would be the key element. if she had these in her hands when she comes back to brazil, this i think is the assets that she need to forward, to go forward in a sense to build this
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kind of, to build the kind of political -- she needs to implment. to create the idea that there is a concrete economic gains for brazil in this approach with the u.s. >> and roberto on the u.s. side with president obama his fourth quarter, what is that have to look like for it to be a win from the u.s. perspective? or is it already a win? >> i, you know, i think we don't set the bar to low, but i think that the fact that we are back to having regular conversations, that there is a lot going on below that all of -- we set up at both ministerial level and below are now working again after pauses, and the movement ahead especially on some of the tougher issues, whether it's
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internet governance or defense or climate will have advances. all of that to me we speak a victory out of this visit. >> well, i think that's a perfect way to conclude the panel and before we get our closing remarks, will you just join me in a round of applause. >> a great pleasure to introduce the representative our partner a great working relationship and devery is also vice president. >> thank you very much and as you can tell from my appearance you get two for the price of one today. so i'm here representing both the brazil u.s. business council and the u.s. private sector that does business in and with brazil and also cargill who has had
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the honor of serving as chair for the council for three years. and what we like to say as cargill is is that we're approaching our 50/150. it's our birthday, we're 150 years old this year. and 50 years in brazil. and so, it's quite an honor for us to be here and for the panelists and the guests alike i'd like to see a lot of familiar faces out there. that was an outstanding discussion i believe that gave us all a glimpse into the future of the bilateral relationship and president yusef's visit to washington, but not only as we heard at the bilateral leadership, but also the focus on the global relationship. on global partnership osn issues and the regional partnership which is quite important. but we're pleased that you've saved some for the president and we look forward to her visit. a special thank you to assistant
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secretary roberta jacobson. i know you've got a lot on your plate and we're proud to have you leading the dialogue and we're looking forward to your next steps. to our deputy chief of mission, thank you for being here with us today. peter, i wanteded to say thanks for bringing all of these important issues to the front burner. thank you very much to the atlantic council and the brazil council. we're grateful for you being gracious hosts for us and i also want to congratulate the ark center on the report that's coming out prior to the visit that will advance cooperation between our two countries and ricardos ricardo, a special congratulations to you for your thaugt leadership in advance of the visit. this analysis we believe will provide a great base for some
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future cooperation between our two countries and for the larnler benefit of the trade discussion taking place between the two countries. brazil and u.s. are at a pivotal moment and the private sector plays a crucial role in help tog define an agenda with concrete steps. we've remained engaged as the private sector with brazil over the last few years as the relationship has taken different twists and turns and we're certainly hopeful for the outcomes on the commercial side of this visit. and after hearing from our distinguished guests today, it's clear that the relationship is move inging forward. and our agenda is appropriately ambitious yet still achievable and worth pursuing. so, on behalf of the brazil u.s. business council and the u.s. private sector i want to reiterate our commitment to strengthening the brazil u.s. relationship and to contributing to a positive agenda for
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president yusef's visit an gent that benefits both countries and its citizens so it's a pleasure to be here with you this morning and thank you again for our hosts and have a wonderful and restful not only day, but weekend. you deserve it. >> i want to just thank you very much. and before we leave, i want to thank adrian for being with us today. for all your vision. and i also want to thank our fantastic team led by natalie there in the black sweater who spearheads our brazil work and that would not be possible without her vision and dedication and that of the entire, fantastic latin america as our team and if you haven't received your copy of the report, it's out there and it's also interactive online and will be launched online next hour. thank you, and thank you to our panelists.
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if you missed any of this program, you can watch it online anytime at cspan.org. congressal tweets in south carolina and the shooting at the emanuel ame church, just news today that the 21-year-old was charged this morning with nine counts of murder. he will be arraign eded a bond hearing scheduled for 2:00 p.m. eastern. front page today of the local paper in charleston, retweeted here by tim scott pointing out there's no picture of the suspect on the front page. also, james clyburn tweeting this morning there may be a lot
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of dylann roofs in the world, but also a lot of debbie dills. the florist who reports seeing the killer and lindsey graham tweeting yesterday there are bad people in this world motivated by hate. every decent person has been victimized by the hate shown by the individual who perpetrated these horrible agent acts. looking at some of our live coverage across the networks today, we'll have live coverage of the defense department briefing with thomas widely. he'll be briefing reporters on the u.s. fight against isis in iraq and syria. that's coming up in about an hour. at the same time, cspan will be live with a discussion on the iran nuclear negotiations and the role of congress in reviewing any agreements. michael flynn participates in the panel and at 5:15 cspan
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the moral of our military in world war ii. on sunday night at 9:00 -- and this weekend on american history tv on cspan 3, we're lived from the gettysburg college war institute, saturday morning beginning at 8:30 eastern, with the university of california los angeles history professor -- on abraham lincoln. 8:30 with city college of professor, gregory downs on the consequences of the civil war and later at 11:00 a discussion about treason and loyalty in the civil war. with history professor, william blare. get our complete schedule at cspan.org. >> the speaker of iraq's
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parliament says the islamic state can't be eliminated by local populations in the sunni tribes in iraq. he calls for aid and military efforts. he spoke recently in washington. this is just over an hour. >> welcome. welcome and as we get started, i want to call your attention to the headsets on your seat. you can find the english interpretation on channel one and channel two has arabic. so, please wave your hand if you're having trouble with your headsets. good. we've got people, so just wave your hand.
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on the united states and for those visiting us for the first time u.s. ip is a congressionally created nonpartisan institute and for the last 2030 year, we've been working on finding solutions for preventing, managing and recovering from conflict. it is my very distinct honor today to welcome and introduce his excellencesy, who the speaker of the council of representatives of the republic of iraq. and i'd also like to welcome the entire iraqi delegation who has joined us here today. it includes more current and former members of the council of representatives and a special shoutout and welcome to ambassador fally, the iraqi ambassador to the united states and a valuable partner for usip.
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as many of you know, iraq has been a priority for over a decade with the support of our iraqi and american partners, we've had an office in baghdad since 2004. and a last year, we opened an office in erbil. none of this could have been possible without having an amazing team here at usip so i'd just like to acknowledge and thank omar our acting vice president for the middle east and africa. the director of our middle east programs and -- who leads our iraq programs. so, we're all here today at a time when iraq is confronting enormous challenges and we are almost to a day the year since mosul fell. we have on ongoing conflict with dish and the human and the
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community costs continue to grow. i understand there's about an average of 11a thousand soldiers and civilians who die every month in this continuing conflict and we have witnessed three million men, women and children who have been displaced from their homes. communities, villages towns are sustaining considerable damage. however, even as the battle continues, it's also critical to lay the future for a more peaceful iraqi future. we have recently had the honor of hosting prime minister abadi and the kurdistan region's president barzani. both have underscored the same call for looking now to the future for emphasizeing dialogue and reconciliation as critical for helping iraq move forward. usip teams are working with
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local iraqi partners now to anticipate that joint future. and to help alleviate the tensions arise frg the massive displacements and provent cycles of revenge in the liberating areas. we're supporting our partners to bridge relations between xhubts and police in places like baghdad, basra -- and we're supporting the iraqi minority communities to advance their rights working alongside for peace building and network to help address the aftermath including of terrible events like the spiker massacre. and in this work, we have seen the power of iraqi communities who are determined to build a better future. we've seen their commitment to come together to resolve differences and we continue to be inspired by local leaders and partners who are eager to lay this ground work for a more
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inclusive, shared peace. now more than ever is the time to talk about peace. we've witnessed the events that have rocked iraq and throughout this, today's distinguished speaker and guest, has served as a pragmatic voice. he has workeded to engage parties on all side. he has worked to find solutions that work and he has been an odd voe cat for an inclusive approach to politics that is essential towards working for a reck sill yag. he is a prominent leader. a former erer law professor and most importantly, he's part of a new generation of iraqi leadership. this is the generation tw potential to build a more engaging political process and he and others are working to position the council to be a key
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player in the process and a more inclusive future. before sitting down with bill taylor for a moderated discussion and for those on twitter, please remember to use hash tag iraqi speaker to help us expand the conversation beyond the room today. with that, i'm pleased to welcome on his first visit to washington, d.c., our speaker. the speaker of the iraq council of representatives and please join me in welcoming him to the podium.
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>> ladies and gentlemen, allow me at the beginning to express my thanks and appreciate to the -- my colleagues and i for this important opportunity to talk about important issues during a sensitive and difficult times. i want you to limit my talk about peace, my talk would be limited to peace in my country and institute, respectable institute that is keen to achieve peace and reducing crisis in the world but regrettably, i would be talk inging to you after the passing of a year for the appearance, where occupation of one-third of the country and the company destruction and killing in the
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attack and what caused to women and the destruction of churches and antiquities and taking women hostages and destruction of churches and the holy shrines which some of these antiquities return to thousands of years and depth of history. difference. despite all of our pains to what have inflicted our people in terms of destruction, we have been surprised about this movement because i know that it is a result of the policy of exclusions and depressing of freedoms during the past few years and a natural result to the administrative corruption and final corruption which
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spread in military institutions and other institutions of the state. as as we know and spoke with our allies about the catastrophic results that to which these policies will lead us to, but regrettably, they did not take our advance seriously and we were dealt with as if as this was going a part of the strike between various partners but others considered this phenomena a regular, a normal struggle. that started in 2014 and is still continuing. as a result to everything we have -- we have all witnessed how iraq has been transformed to a country of displaced. iraq has produced about 3 million displaced areas are
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controlled by -- and within the framework of the diet that have used our experiment, we have become is started by those displaced to our -- and instead of containing them and to redirect their ideas, we prevented them from reaching the true safety and as a result, that we have created a large army of recruited people who are being -- that the future of the displaced have wasted in the accordance of iraqi politics that is focusing on external and our field. watching the results of which
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resulted from the displacement without providing anything that is despite this situation. in the end, i will talk to you about peace in iraq. peace that can be achieved from this war that is -- in the face of this dark movement in history. peace that be aspired for because we are sure that you and all the forces that loves peace will stand by our side in this confrontation. may seem more optimistic than necessary. for some of you, but when i say that this situation in iran does not call for disparity. despite the blackness of the scene.
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the source of my optimism is because i know that the iraqi people do not look at the cost of the confrontation, but the values and principles at the forefront which is peace and reconciliation, but they need the help of their friends to be victorious with dash. we thank you -- coalition led by the american country, which is standinging by us in the middle east. battle. we could believe that they have to multiply their efforts and increase their aid for equipping the democracy through the countries that are members of the coalition.
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to save our children from the policies of not keeping the previous agreements. as a speaker the iraqi parliament and the law, i think that there is no other alternative to go into this battle side by side with you. because it is complimentary and it is a world so that we will not have any other terrorist organization on the ruins of daesh that would threaten our security and peaceful peace. and implementation of the parties of the tri -- the three-party solution in the public and the council.
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so the goal of the national guards will be the guarantee of the security of the governance. we must end all aspects of mystery outside of the military. because this is a militarization. and to have systems that are utilitarian. in the past we did not want to come back. we must have the political reform and restructuring of the security institution based on efficiency and away from the current system. ethnic as well as sectarian. it is important also to uphold the law of the unified federal law and to separate between the power of the state in order to maintain the independence in taking decisions. ladies and gentleman. the method cannot be successful without getting from the
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policies of regional polarization which made iraq for a struggle on behalf of partners and the iraqis are paying the price for it in the blood and the wealth. we cannot get out of this policy expect through the help of our friends in the united states of america. and western states that have an influence in the region through pressures on the iraqi political forces and the decision-making centers in order to stop the intervention in the internal affairs of iraq and support iraq
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to reduce the period of confrontation. because it has become a method of interfering in the affairs of iraq through daesh, the ways and the repetition of a particular modern from the terrorist operations which touched all of our children, schools were churches and mosques and markets. iraq was its natural resources and the success of the democratic success of reform and establishing confidence between the partners will be a source for a democracy in the whole area. as the american message was after getting rid of saddam hussein in 2003. dear friends, finally i put before you some principles that
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expresses a comprehensive project for reform and overcoming the challenges. the fairest issue we must think about stability after liberation of the areas captured by daesh. and to give a model that we can motivate or those who were still living under the authority of daesh so they can do everything possible to face the challenge. the second thing, if the military support surrounded by restrictions of controls that cannot be violated by friendly countries, these states must not neglect human support. the fair issue, there is a
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struggle in iraq between the state and none state, and institutions that were established based on elections must be maintained. that is also other institutions that work outside of the framework of the state that wants to take the authorities to itself and to impose itself on the society and make the decisions itself, building a stable state in iraq is the guarantee of the protection of our minorities and the marginalized. the important cannot be forgotten. arming the tribes and the training and equipment because the local populations alone are the ones that can end daesh and
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changing the role of the tribes, ignoring them will make the problem -- we must also rehabilitate the police in the areas controlled by daesh. and the reforces be under one control, represented by the commander general of the armed forces. the problem of the multiplicity of the leadership will lead to the collapse of the armies just as happened in ramadi. a real -- building a modern state through the help of its friends, extremism and terrorism is a very strange phenomena in the iraqi society an it has
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resulted from political circumstances that were complicated and will end with the end of this problem. therefore, eliminating daesh will help our ability to establish peace and the national guns is a new idea and an important one. but it cannot be a cover for emergency cases that threaten the security of the state. and some societies sometimes result to a miserable solutions. so we should not contribute to this. so with that hope nothing a person can take important decisions in his -- for his future. i call on you to support the just cause of our people to get
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rid of terrorism and your efforts to spread the ideas of living in peace and understanding and i call you on and all those who love peace on the earth and support reform and democracy in iraq. and this is why i decided to come to you here so that we can invest our partnership in this endeavor or otherwise it would be totally different. thank you for listening to me. and peace be upon you. and thank you. [ applause ]
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mr. speaker, thank you very much for that presentation. we were most impressed with your words at the outset expressing your optimism, expressing your commitment to peace, expressing your friendship with people here and other allies around the world. so this is a very positive message that you have brought to us here today. you have a difficult job. as the speaker of the council of representatives, a body that you would probably agree has sometimes had difficulties in
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coming to agreement, and coming to compromise, and coming to final conclusions that support the movement forward of the country of iraq. can the council of representatives, under your leadership and the other leaders and the deputies that you have, can the council representatives be a place in iraq that does bring together, that does bring the reconciliation, that does come with compromise to be able to move forward? is this something that you see under your leadership of the council? >> thank you very much. when we started in this term for the council of representatives, we had a lot of compilations of problems. the nature, for example, between the executive and the legislative, between the

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